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"Why Biden Needs a Landslide to Win (NYT swipe)"


          


This is obviously what we're up against, right? And this is the only way it'll happen? F*** the polls, the headlines, the momentum, no sleep till Brooklyn / the inauguration, honestly. We all know this piece of feces can only be beat one way, and that's by each and every one stepping up / out and shoryuken dragon punchin his stupid mug out of office. I had a good feeling the first couple of days after Kamala was announced, but there are zero guarantees and really, even without the votes and the voters cheetoh might still find a way. Lets do this


https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/22/opinion/sunday/trump-cheat-biden-2020.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

Why Biden Needs a Landslide Just to Win

Only a lopsided show of force would overcome undelivered mail, closed polling sites and Trump’s schemes.

When many of us question Hillary Clinton’s performance and strategy in 2016 and say that she should have won, we’re speaking sloppily.

We mean that she should have won by more. We mean that she should have won by so much that James Comey’s vain and imprudent fit of conscience didn’t matter, that Russian interference didn’t matter, that Mark Zuckerberg’s abdication of responsibility for content on his platform didn’t matter, that the quirks of the Electoral College and the advantage it confers on Republicans didn’t matter.

She got almost three million more votes than Donald Trump, as she justifiably mentioned on Wednesday night at the Democratic National Convention. We’re saying that in light of what a wretched man he is, what an unsavory candidate he was and what a chaotic campaign he ran, she should have received, heck, five million more, which would surely have included enough in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Michigan to tip the Electoral College to her and save us from these past few soul-effacing years.

I was reminded of that not only by her remarks at the convention but also by what many other speakers said. They didn’t urge voters merely to cast more mail-in ballots than Trump’s supporters do, merely to show up on Election Day in greater numbers, merely to deliver Joe Biden and Kamala Harris any old margin of victory.

They urged a show of force so lopsided that it would be able to overcome undelivered mail, closed polling sites, whatever schemes Trump might hatch and, on the far side of that, his insistence that any vote count that doesn’t put him on top is rigged and illegitimate.

What a chillingly cynical perspective. And what an entirely accurate one.

The Democratic convention was out of the ordinary in many ways. It was disembodied, allowing for some inventive digital choreography but robbing big moments, like Harris’s speech, of their customary hubbub, their celebratory thunder. In counterpoint to Trump’s toxic narcissism, the Democrats framed their nominee, Joe Biden, not as some cinematic savior but as a humble ambassador of goodness, a regular-guy corrective who would arrive at the White House with a bucket and a mop, ready to wipe away the moral stain left by Trump, Jared Kushner and the rest of these reprobates.

But the most unusual aspect of the convention was the assumption on which it rested. It foretold and factored in outright cheating on the other side and suggested that, because of it, a new math was in order, an arithmetical overkill. It did that because there has been plenty of cheating or attempted cheating already.

There was of course that “perfect” phone call between President Trump and his Ukrainian counterpart, who was tasked with the “favor” of assassinating Biden’s character. There was, according to John Bolton’s memoir, an appeal to the Chinese president for help. Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump campaign’s dealings with Russians in 2016 didn’t teach the president not to touch a hot stove again. It taught him that the burn is just legend.

He has since threatened to sue Nevada, a state he’s unlikely to win, for easing its citizens’ ability to vote. He has wished aloud for the gutting of the United States Postal Service so that mail-in balloting would be thwarted. He has floated the idea of delaying the election. While he doesn’t have the power to do that, he knew that bringing up the subject was another way of saying to voters: This is all a mess. Don’t bother with it and don’t believe the results. And he knows that in a fog of all-encompassing distrust, voters can’t distinguish properly between the good actors and the bad actors like him.

A fair fight? Trump is the presidential equivalent of the sucker-punching boxer who left Hilary Swank paralyzed in “Million Dollar Baby.” Those of us who care about American democracy are Swank.

The situation is so perverse that Facebook is already bracing for, and figuring out how to respond to, Trump’s likely attempt to use the social network to invalidate any election results not to his liking, as Mike Isaac and Sheera Frenkel reported in The Times on Friday. Already, Facebook has been besieged by disinformation that gives people the wrong details about when, where and how to vote.

The 2020 presidential race is hardly the first time that one or both sides spotted or prophesied dirty tricks by the other. Go back only as far as the 2000 contest between George W. Bush and Al Gore and the Florida recount to find recriminations galore and cries of illegitimacy.

But this election will make that one look like a game of patty-cake. Democrats are suitably braced for that. And so, over the four nights of their convention, they issued get-out-the-vote pleas that were more like get-out-the-vote tutorials, get-out-the-vote instruction manuals, that were remarkable in their specificity, in their repeated assertion that you needed to make a “plan to vote.”

This was Michelle Obama, on the convention’s opening night: “We have got to grab our comfortable shoes, put on our masks, pack a brown-bag dinner and maybe breakfast too, because we’ve got to be willing to stand in line all night if we have to.” When’s the last time a leader urging Americans to vote included sartorial and epicurean tips? I’m guessing never. But that’s where we are.

Two nights later, Barack Obama cautioned that Trump and his enablers “are counting on your cynicism. They know they can’t win you over with their policies. So they’re hoping to make it as hard as possible for you to vote, and to convince you that your vote does not matter.”

“Do not let them take away your power,” he added. “Do not let them take away your democracy.” When have you ever heard a restrained former president accuse the current one not just of poor stewardship but of a plot to destroy the American project itself? You haven’t. Then Trump came along.

On the convention’s final night, the comedian Sarah Cooper warned voters that Trump “doesn’t want any of us to vote because he knows he can’t win fair and square.” Julia Louis-Dreyfus, the moderator, said, “If we all vote, there is nothing Facebook, Fox News and Vladimir Putin can do to stop us!”

Well beyond the convention, I hear people worrying about their votes being thrown away; about what happens if Trump is ahead on Election Day and falls behind only when the mail-in ballots are counted; about how large a margin of victory in the popular vote will be needed to guarantee triumph in the Electoral College; about how resounding an Electoral College triumph will be necessary to make Trump shut up.

These questions aren’t the products of Trump Derangement Syndrome. They’re the fruits of exposure to Trump. They’re also the legacy of Clinton’s defeat in 2016, when there was such a strong sense that the will of a majority of people fell prey to freaky, funky twists. A lesson was learned, and Democrats are now heeding it: To eke out a victory, you need a landslide.

  

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he needs a "safe" victory in several states.
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Dr Claw
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ones highly unreliable when it comes to white voters doing the right thing, and GOP-controlled state (legislature)s not fucking voters over.

which would result in an ELECTORAL COLLEGE landslide.

the "silent majority" effect should always be considered, which is something that voters consider, but the Democratic Party tends to wave off. Obama is the only Democratic presidential candidate in almost 50 years to factor that in his election calculus. Obama also was a candidate who inspired voters uniquely: he offered a great deal of symbolism to the most reliable voters in the Democratic bloc. he offered a life story that enforced the "American exceptionalism" myth to which so many Americans cling. he campaigned like a populist, but didn't unnerve the donor class (which, frankly should have been a warning to the public, but I still would not have wanted the alternative in 2008. following Bush, the presence of Sarah Palin in Washington would have been Trump before Trump).


Biden has 2 things going for him:
1. Not Hillary
2. COVID-19 has been a disaster under Trump.

#2 is the reason why I have amended my earlier "leaving it blank" stance. the neofascism that we get under Trump is not going to be tolerable for another 4 years.

I think chasing any right wingers and catering to them is a folly. But where I live, I've seen (assumedly) a number of these white folks get turned off to Trump and started supporting Biden visually as early as late May. There are more Biden lawn signs than I saw before.

But there will be fuckery. and I've already accepted that he won't accept the end, so there will be more fights, more bullshit, during a pandemic.

the American people need to stop settling for neoliberalism. recognize right wingers of all shades, even in the Democratic Party as an enemy, and remove the Republican Party from as many elected offices as possible.

right now the Democratic Party is allowing Republicans to use them as a platform to wrest back control of their party from the snowballing QAnon element of their party. they make the Tea Party look like "RINOs". we live in an age where one of the most notorious Tea Partiers (Joe Walsh) has rode a NeverTrump wave so far into supporting Biden. Those neocons really want Trump out of there. there is no end to this bullshit.

Even if Biden wins.
And I hope he does.

America needs to be seriously re-educated, and I don't mean by classroom.

  

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