no DNC post?

we’re switching between that and the DAL/LAC game.
is that like a zoom crowd?
can I get paid?

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it was uncomfortable hearing Michelle talk about her love for this country. Is that weird?

I was a guest so I didn’t get to watch it all...

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John Kasich, Susan Molinari, and Christine Whitman

Quick refresher on John Kasich, from the democrats themselves:

https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/722816980475113472?s=20

https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/719950037900505088?s=20

https://twitter.com/TheDemocrats/status/623520379731079168?s=20

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

convincing...
I don't need rallying...
Already know what needs to be done and I intend on doing it....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

since those are supposedly the live speeches.

but yeah.. it’s not like I need to be convinced but I still used to watch the key speakers during normal times because they had that raw energy.

This new format felt so weird when I tuned in.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

i dont know why.

you had false starts and quite a bit of awkwardness that could had been removed with a second take.

would had made more sense to just record the best take you can and air them.

could had just been done on purpose to make it look like it was live but thats weird too.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

we just want some one decent...

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when she spoke about hardships of trying to be the better person.


DON’T JEALOUS ME...
that’s that jealousy lol

This is really good. A clear statement of purpose for the future of the Democratic party.

The Honorable John Kasich
Former Governor of Ohio

Democratic National Convention
Monday, August 17, 2020

Remarks as Prepared for Delivery

America is at a crossroads. Sometimes elections represent a real choice, a choice we make as individuals and as a nation about which path we want to take when we’ve come to challenging times. America is at that crossroads today. The stakes in this election are greater than any in modern times.

Many of us have been deeply concerned about the current path we’ve been following for the past four years. It’s a path that’s led to division, dysfunction, irresponsibility, and growing vitriol between our citizens. Continuing to follow that path will have terrible consequences for America’s soul because we’re being taken down the wrong road by a president who has pitted one against the other. He’s unlike all of our best leaders before him, who worked to unite us, to
bridge our differences, and lead us to a united America.

I’m a lifelong Republican, but that attachment holds second place to my responsibility to my country. That’s why I’ve chosen to appear at this convention. In normal times, something like this would probably never happen, but these are not normal times. I’m proud of my Republican heritage. It’s the party of Lincoln, who reflected its founding
principles of unity and a higher purpose. But what I have witnessed these past four years belies those principles.

Many of us can’t imagine four more years going down this path, and that’s why I’m asking you to join with me in choosing a better way forward. I believe the best of America lies ahead, but only when we rediscover our shared belief in the United States of America, for our children’s future, which can be bright, hopeful, and inspired if we choose to make it so.

I’ve known Joe Biden for 30 years. I know his story of profound grief that has so deeply affected his character. I know Joe is a good man, a man of faith, a unifier, someone who understands the hopes and dreams of the common man and the common woman, a man who can help us to see
the humanity in each other. He knows that the path to a restored and rejuvenated America lies in respect and unity and a common purpose for everyone.

Yes, there are areas where Joe and I absolutely disagree. But that’s OK because that’s America. Because whatever our differences, we respect one another as human beings, each of us searching for justice and for purpose.

We can all see what’s going on in our country today and all the questions that are facing us, and no one person or party has all the answers. But what we do know is that we can do better than what we’ve been seeing today, for sure. And I know that Joe Biden, with his experience and his wisdom and his decency, can bring us together to help us find that better way.

I’m sure there are Republicans and Independents who couldn’t imagine crossing over to support a Democrat. They fear Joe may turn sharp left and leave them behind. I don’t believe that because I know the measure of the man. It’s reasonable, faithful, respectful, and, you know, no
one pushes Joe around.

Joe Biden is a man for our times, times that call for all of us to take off our partisan hats and put our nation first for ourselves and, of course, for our children.

When America chooses the right path and pulls together, like we’ve done so many times before, we can dream big dreams and we can see the top of the mountain as a United States of America, with a soul that is a beacon of freedom to the entire world.

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anything goes when it’s time to vote. I’m anxious to see if the energy changes as 45 continues to create a race war.

For some reason I envisioned Michelle dropping bombs and the crowd going wild. Then I turned for the start of it the convention and realized.. it’s mad quiet. It’s weird af for a convention.

Same thing with the NBA games. I wanted to test out my new soundbar for the playoffs then realized most of the bass and sound is from stadium music and crowd atmosphere. The commercials for that thump tho.. lol.

There really is no reason to watch in real time since most of the speeches are prerecorded.

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dude, how can I be part of the zoom crowd?
right up my alley lol

is there pay?

it was mostly good. some zoom cheesiness, some dnc cheesiness. overall i think they made a good case. theres 3 nights left tho? yeah ill probably just watch most, if not all, of the rest the next day.

his name lol

Voting is my patronus!

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“voting for someone that would never have a chance” or something like that lol

and I don’t even think it was a shot. moreso, it’s not in the numbers...

She crushed it of course. I can't think of many people i admire more than that woman. Its unfortunate and completely understandable that she has no aspirations for office.

But overall I find all this shit exhausting.

The rest was fairly cringey

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The speeches are to the point and not waiting for crowd cheers and jeers, no pausing for effect show

aka no bs production, just looking at YOU in the eye and saying what's what.

I will how ever watch the last night live, I want them numbers high, so trumpy feels how many people are watching.

Though, I will saw I'm low key nervous that the viewership numbers will be low as hell and that will equal turn out.

�If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

just for the reality show circus aspect

they already have the gun toting Karen/Ken couple, and the maga hat smirkface covington kid. and of course, Scott Baio

I'm sure they'll add people who were kicked out of stores for refusing to wear masks, actual women named Karen, and other victims.

i don't know how much of any of it is indicative of turnout tho

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they need to stay laser focused on all this guy's disastrous fuck ups, instead of spending way too much time on how he said something offensive or misspelled coffee

he's at his worst politically when he can't steer the narrative and everyone's been terrible at allowing it.

I feel like whoever goes last has the best chance to change the narrative.

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It was refreshing to hear a non-politician just bring it from the heart like that.

Unfortunately, the party is still horribly managed. The fact that Bloomberg (a blatant racist/sexist) and Kasich are getting more featured prime time than AOC (who is only getting 60 seconds for a pre-recorded statement) is absurd.

I get the strategy of the "Republicans for Biden" movement - but that's the same strategy that the dems have done in presidential elections for 2 decades now - and it hasn't worked well. If you want to kiss up to the Joe Liebermans of the world once again - ok - but not at the expense of energizing and exciting young voters and the Progressive base. Give AOC and the Squad featured slots and embrace/promote these young rising stars. Celebrate the primary victories of Bowman, Mondaire & Bush and embrace this new wave energy coming into the party.

They are allowing the politics of John Kasich to dictate the tenor of the Convention, which illustrates just how far to the right the "center" in this country has shifted.

economy, race, covid?

months later we’re still talking about trum...

They are catering the message to center-right voters yet again, being very careful not to "scare" moderate voters away with so-called "extreme" views like health care as a human right and racial/social/economic/environmental justice.

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he’s running on creating fear about the economy and crime. folks aren’t giving up their money for covid or race. I can’t see it...

>They are catering the message to center-right voters yet
being very careful not to "scare" moderate voters away
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But For the center right voters and moderates, health care is not the first thing that comes to mind when they think of “progressives” aka the far left


There’s a reason some of us had reservations about slogans like Defund the Police and Dem-socialism . We wanted to reach the moderates and win.


In states like MI

in the 2020 dem primary.

its amazing that these folks still offer up criticism/analysis after being completely wrong several times over.

the fight for this election is gonna be won in the suburbs of places like mi, tx, az, nc, etc. that was even the path to the dem house majority and state govt recaptures in 2018.

why would dems be hinging their hopes on a part of the base that could only turn out 25% of the vote in a primary and got blown out in every single swing state except tx where bloomberg cannibalized biden votes?

Unlike Clinton - who saw no need to accommodate the sizable Sanders base - Biden has done a much better job of reaching out to those voters (partially because he has no choice as Sanders has been by far the most influential voice given how popular his policy prescriptions are - so popular that the entire field adopted his platform).

But only in your mind can you be consistently wrong election after election and yet staunchly continue to defend your losing argument.

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is biden doing a good job of reaching out to progressives or not?

you switch stances based on what argument youre tryna win.

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Fascinating considering you've always insisted that the DNC is some benign, independent organization wholly impartial to the candidates.
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Gotta try and convince people that "everyone" is with you - on a message board?

Sheesh. Your sensitivity is real.

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>is biden doing a good job of reaching out to progressives or
>not?
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>you switch stances based on what argument youre tryna win.

shit 3 of the people you mentioned are in ny alone.

and how does the politics of john kasich dictate the tenor of a convention where speeches from michelle obama and jill biden...and a virtual roll call showing the national diversity of the democratic party...and leading most of the discussion?

people are barely talking about kasich (outside of the usual lefty crybabies who complain about everything).

Your focus has very much been on rendering the Progressive electorate as negligible and non-essential to winning in November - while you religiously recite the need to reel in moderate voters. These Clinton/Kaine talking points failed us miserably in 2016.

>people are barely talking about kasich (outside of the usual
>lefty crybabies who complain about everything).

Not just Kasich - but Bloomberg, McCain, Colin Powell etc.. etc.. Again - as stated - I have no issue with the "Republicans for Biden" movement - reel some of them in - but to do that and then blatantly slight the Squad and the young, diverse progressive movement blooming and looking for a political home is absolute political malpractice.

And the only reason they're doing it is because they're afraid that Kasich voters will be scared of AOC's politics. Instead of promoting her and driving the narrative that the real extremists are on the Trump train, they acquiesce and cede ground to the GOP.

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of the vote in a democratic party primary.

but im the one who doesnt understand the dynamics of a big democratic tent.

i was looking at the schedule and i can see that each night has something that makes me want to tune in.

tonight is the roll call and i kind of just want to see how they go about it.

https://www.demconvention.com/schedule-and-speakers/?_sft_event-day=august-18

i might skip out after ocasio-cortez though. i am curious on what jimmy carter has to say, will probably watch that tomorrow.

i cant miss warren tomorrow

i also want to see harris and obama. so might tune in for warren and come back at the end.

last night is pretty packed with worthwhile speakers so might just watch the whole thing live. seems weird to me for yang to be the last speaker before biden. dude really blew up his profile.

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for some odd reason i thought they would follow the order listed in the schedule. had me sit through a lot of speeches i was planning to skip while i was waiting for the roll call lol. i turned it off as soon as the roll call was done and biden finished his awkward celebration.

i hope they dont do the same with warren tonight.

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Both did well. Hit all the right notes, and made the points that each specifically needed to make.

I'll probably watch the AOC speech afterwards as well.

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Was not expecting it to hit like it did.

Was an amazing display of the diversity of this country and a reminder of what we can be

i wasnt sure what to expect but it mostly made sense. i was surprised how many of them went smoothly. there was only one or two that were awkward.

plus it was cool to see veronica "no mames" escobar speak up for el paso and texas.

It was very interesting seeing the American territories being featured too.

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But it plays very well.

The contrast of normalcy vs what we have now

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aside from the metoo/lewinsky and epstein associations...

he did a ton of damage in 2016. from giving trump a potent talking point by calling obamacare the craziest thing in the world...to meeting with loretta lynch on the tarmac (causing her to recuse from the hillary email investigation and let comey take the lead)...to his wife having to defend his policies and behaviors. hes prolly the least talked about factor that had the most impact on the election (and it was basically all negative).

currently the liabilities outweigh whatever pluses people still think he brings (is he keeping many voters in the party?).

its time to put him out to pasture.

...yeah he's a piece of shit, but most voters don't realize aside from BJ in the white house what a horrible human he is.

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i been criticizing bill clinton and his liability to dems for a while.
https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13305789&mesg_id=13305789&listing_type=search#13311105

i mentioned it there as an aside on a subject that didnt even have anything to do with him. so you know its something ive already consistently thought.

Basically thats politics from over 2 decades ago, get the hell outta here Bill.

�If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

I was 26 when his 2nd term ended and his administration was seen as a resounding success.

I'm not saying that Bill should be today's torchbearer for the Dems. No, he's definitely got too many strikes against him for that. But some of those strikes weren't there in 2000-2001. Folks that are my age and older remember just how popular he was when he left office. And older folks still have some sway (especially financially).

or am I late, lol

i missed it the first few times i looked over the schedule too. i was wondering why michelle was speaking and he wasnt until i noticed him lol

funny I wondered the same thing...

well, I’m excited! he gets the folks going

I’m stay up tonight...

lovely acknowledgment of womanhood

To be fair I was falling asleep for Kamala, need to listen again.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

Like the teacher who finally snaps on her students without yelling.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

But I guess from the debates, and just her overall swag, i didn't expect her to be so bubbly (nervous?)
Maybe it was just the moment getting to her.

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