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shockvalue
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"THANK YOU for fighting BIDEN MISINFORMATION"


          

I want to give a huge shoutout to our heroic mods for fighting the RAMPANT MISINFORMATION about Joe Biden in that thread they so wisely locked.

In these times, it's important that audio clips, even when unaltered, don't get shared without the proper context on our boards. If clips and articles are shared too freely, it can give the wrong idea about what politicians we have a duty to support are all about.

The thread in question was discussing an incident that has also been DISCUSSED ON BREITBART. That's huge, and a dead giveaway that something is not right. Furthermore, it makes the OKP thread in question actually a BREITBART THREAD, and this also means that the poster who posted the thread, and all those who expressed concern about the completely mischaracterized statement by Biden, are actually now BREITBART POSTERS. Please ostracize those individuals appropriately.

THANKS AGAIN TO OUR MODS FOR SHUTTING SHIT DOWN SO IT CAN'T BE DISCUSSED HERE.

  

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You gotta chill.
Aug 07th 2020
1
BREITBART OP! GET THEE BEHIND ME
Aug 07th 2020
2
I'd love to know when this was
Aug 07th 2020
9
yes. you find things that will get attention and if it's negative
Aug 07th 2020
21
Cease with this WrongThink shockvalue. The Ministry of Truth...
Aug 07th 2020
3
WAR IS PEACE.
Aug 07th 2020
4
      Ha!
Aug 07th 2020
14
yall niggas trippin lol
Aug 07th 2020
5
lol 2020 got everyone popping off.
Aug 07th 2020
6
Agreed.
Aug 07th 2020
10
"Politicians we have a duty to support"
Aug 07th 2020
7
More Infowars
Aug 07th 2020
8
OKPs discussing thing that happened = Infowars
Aug 07th 2020
11
      They are probably discussing Cardi and Megan as we speak lol.
Aug 07th 2020
16
      The only way to disscus things that happen is to use a Trump stan twitte...
Aug 07th 2020
17
      RE: The only way to disscus things that happen is to use a Trump stan tw...
Aug 07th 2020
18
      Ha that’s funny
Aug 10th 2020
50
Wait... I totally missed the sarcasm
Aug 07th 2020
12
I did too. :-(
Aug 07th 2020
15
PM.
Aug 07th 2020
13
you could try discussing shit that's not wack
Aug 07th 2020
19
lol yall aint right.
Aug 07th 2020
20
Seek professional help
Aug 07th 2020
22
^^*MESSAGE*^^ © Keenen Ivory Wayans
Aug 07th 2020
23
Here’s the problem though:
Aug 07th 2020
24
I never said you were a troll
Aug 07th 2020
25
RE: I never said you were a troll
Aug 07th 2020
28
      No, just stop falling for BS
Aug 07th 2020
29
      Its weird because the same people will say Biden keeps saying
Aug 08th 2020
36
           He walked NOTHING back
Aug 08th 2020
39
                Why even say ‘unlike the African American community’ AT ALL?
Aug 08th 2020
40
                     Welcome to the inside of your own ass
Aug 08th 2020
42
                     RE: Welcome to the inside of your own ass
Aug 08th 2020
44
                     Word.
Aug 08th 2020
45
                     because he's Joe Biden and unforced errors are kind of his thing
Aug 08th 2020
47
I don't think you had a sinister plan.
Aug 07th 2020
27
You didn’t do anything wrong Lightwork
Aug 08th 2020
37
      nobody cares
Aug 10th 2020
55
damn this is kobe on detail level analysis.
Aug 07th 2020
33
na, some people pay attn to politics, some just skim
Aug 08th 2020
34
People don’t like to admit to being fooled
Aug 08th 2020
48
Can't You Hold Your Shock Value Shit Until After Biden Is In Office?
Aug 07th 2020
26
No one has any sense of civic duty anymore.
Aug 07th 2020
30
Lol be nice
Aug 07th 2020
31
....that's inaccurate
Aug 07th 2020
32
      Sure seems like it
Aug 11th 2020
63
Russia Working to Damage Joe Biden’s White House Bid
Aug 08th 2020
35
China Working to Damage Donald Trump’s White House Bid
Aug 08th 2020
38
Right - the selective hearing on foreign interference is absurd
Aug 08th 2020
43
imagine being so silly that you listen to flipnile about the "left"
Aug 10th 2020
58
it's a matter of proportionality and precedent
Aug 11th 2020
61
The new report from the Trump administration's intelligence apparatus—...
Aug 08th 2020
46
      The same person that owns the WSJ also owns FOX News
Aug 09th 2020
49
           if you think WSJ and Fox News are different sides
Aug 10th 2020
59
you made a post postulating coronavirus conspiracy theories
Aug 11th 2020
60
The plea copping for this fucked ass utterance is mind blowing and
Aug 08th 2020
41
We can’t discuss how this could hurt Joe with Black voters
Aug 10th 2020
51
      What ?
Aug 10th 2020
52
      If we can talk about Kanye stealing the Black vote
Aug 10th 2020
53
           no one said you couldn't.
Aug 10th 2020
57
      imagine being a grown man who whines this much
Aug 10th 2020
54
           Hoppin’ Bob
Aug 10th 2020
56
AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY!!!
Aug 11th 2020
62
except thats not what biden was talking about. at all.
Aug 11th 2020
65
      Are you auditioning to be Joe's translator?
Aug 11th 2020
66
They’re grasping at straws at this point
Aug 11th 2020
64

lightworks
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1. "You gotta chill. "
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Fri Aug-07-20 03:02 PM by lightworks

          

I hate Breitbart and definitely object to being associated in any way with that website.

I simply posted what I thought was an interesting clip, people were free to disagree with me and I didn't kick up a fuss, that's how discussions are supposed to work, but I would prefer someone just explaining they didn't agree with me rather than throw the Breibart label on me, that's just plain wrong, and throughout the history of OKP have been able to disagree with other people without falsely accusing them of being on a different side than they are actually on.

It being locked wouldn't have been a choice that I would have made but hey I'm not a mod so oh well.

  

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shockvalue
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2. "BREITBART OP! GET THEE BEHIND ME"
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*SPRINKLES HOLY WATER*

  

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9. "I'd love to know when this was"
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>and throughout the history of OKP have been able to
>disagree with other people without falsely accusing them of
>being on a different side than they are actually on.

'cause it ain't never any nuance or grey area on OKP. you either one way or the other way

  

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Rjcc
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21. "yes. you find things that will get attention and if it's negative"
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you're ok with that.

it really shouldn't be hard to find "interesting" account that isn't whatever blexit account is trending on Twitter.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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3. "Cease with this WrongThink shockvalue. The Ministry of Truth..."
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...does not approve.


Or do you want to visit room 101?

  

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shockvalue
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4. "WAR IS PEACE."
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IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH.

CLIPS OBTAINED DIRECTLY FROM THE CAMPAIGN ARE MISINFORMATION.

  

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lightworks
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14. "Ha!"
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5. "yall niggas trippin lol"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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6. "lol 2020 got everyone popping off."
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But the Breitbart angle was funny. That clip was being discussed on every outlet from NPR and Politico to The Root and Axios - but because Breitbart also picked up it's now subject to the thought police? Peculiar logic.

Incidentally, Biden apologized for the comments today so clearly he didn't think people were making a big deal out of nothing.

  

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lightworks
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10. "Agreed. "
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And again, I don't even mind folks disagreeing about what I thought about the clip but to throw the Breibart label on me?

Nah.

Wack.

  

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7. ""Politicians we have a duty to support""
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Lol

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8. "More Infowars"
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More Newsmax please. Mods whatever you do don't lock any thread ever our Free Speech is under attack. More Trump.

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shockvalue
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11. "OKPs discussing thing that happened = Infowars"
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Super smart.

I wonder if it ever works the opposite way, like people on Breitbart all of the sudden just start debating Labcab vs. Bizarre Ride 2 the Pharcyde.

  

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lightworks
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16. "They are probably discussing Cardi and Megan as we speak lol. "
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>I wonder if it ever works the opposite way, like people on
>Breitbart all of the sudden just start debating Labcab vs.
>Bizarre Ride 2 the Pharcyde.

  

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17. "The only way to disscus things that happen is to use a Trump stan twitte..."
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Fri Aug-07-20 04:01 PM by Lurkmode

  

          

>Super smart.
>I wonder if it ever works the opposite way, like people on
>Breitbart all of the sudden just start debating Labcab vs.
>Bizarre Ride 2 the Pharcyde.

thanks you shockvalue the charter member with 58 posts for taking up this cause.

I bet the people on Breitbart are complaining about that one locked post right now.

It's way too hard to "discusses things" without the Trump approved this message twitter source.

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shockvalue
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18. "RE: The only way to disscus things that happen is to use a Trump stan tw..."
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>I bet the people on Breitbar are complaining about that one
>locked post right now.

I'll take the under on that. But what do I know. I've never been on the site. *winks behind hand*

  

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50. "Ha that’s funny "
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While you bullshitting I can’t remember getting a solid answer on how those types reconcile a genuine love of the culture while actively (passively I can see) trying to oppress the same folks.

  

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12. "Wait... I totally missed the sarcasm"
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Fri Aug-07-20 03:45 PM by legsdiamond

          

gotdamn.. lol.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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lightworks
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15. "I did too. :-("
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Lol.

  

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lightworks
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13. "PM."
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19. "you could try discussing shit that's not wack"
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or not just piling on lightworks for what they posted

but I understand that some of y'all don't get that boost anywhere else

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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20. "lol yall aint right."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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22. "Seek professional help"
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Look here's how it works:

1)Lying propaganda bullshit sites find something they can take out of context and spread it to their other shit sites.

2)Trolls and stooges then spread the information far and wide to what might stick

3)Sometimes less insane sites pick it up - sometimes they don't.



Step 1: RNC Research twitter account shits it out at https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1291377308197163010
https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1291377308197163010


Step 2: The thread Okayplayer.comwas started Thu Aug-06-20 11:11 and was titled ""Biden is back to saying crazy shit about Black folks again. "
It contains a single line quote from an Interview: "“Unlike the African-American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community"

Why is it a single line? Because it was clearly picked up by the poster from a troll post, not from the source material.

Full transcipt here: https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/joe-biden-interview-transcript-august-6-talks-mental-fitness-healthcare



Here's the quote in context (or read or lsiten to the fucking thing yourself"

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Lulu Garcia-Navarro: (32:41)
No. No. Are you going to reengage with Cuba though? I mean, I’m specifically wondering about the Florida communities that are incredibly interested in the Cuba issue and see status given to Venezuelans while Cubans are being deported. So will you engage with Cuba?

Joe Biden: (33:03)
The answer is yes. Yes. Yes. And by the way, what you all know, but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community, with incredibly different attitudes about different things. You go to Florida, you find a very different attitude about immigration in certain places than you do when you’re in Arizona. So it’s a very different, a very diverse community.
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The top Google results were:Thu Aug-06-20 11:18 AM

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/06/joe-biden-unlike-the-african-american-community-the-latino-community-is-an-incredibly-diverse-community-nabj/

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-african-american-community-the-latino-diverse

https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/aug/6/joe-biden-unlike-black-community-hispanics-are-inc/

https://hannity.com/media-room/biden-shocks-unlike-the-african-american-community-the-latino-community-is-incredibly-diverse/


Step 3: Less insane sights pick it up, hours after Okayplayer gets shit posted that wants to make it seem like Biden doesn't give AF about the black community:
Politico: Updated: 08/06/2020 09:15 PM EDT
Wapo: August 6, 2020 at 6:32 p.m. PDT
And at some point the AP starts shitting it out EVERYWHERE.


Then Trump weighs in:
President Donald Trump seized on Biden's remarks, declaring them "very insulting." He later tweeted that "Joe Biden just lost the entire African American community."

Mission accomplished.


Note: Beidn repsonded:

"Earlier today, I made some comments about diversity in the African American and Latino communities that I want to clarify. In no way did I mean to suggest the African American community is a monolith -- not by identity, not on issues, not at all," Biden said.
"Throughout my career I've witnessed the diversity of thought, background, and sentiment within the African American community. It's this diversity that makes our workplaces, communities, and country a better place," he said. "My commitment to you is this: I will always listen, I will never stop fighting for the African American community and I will never stop fighting for a more equitable future."

So to sum up:
People on this board are posting troll shit repeatedly and you're butthurt that this place isn't 4chan.

So, is this place full or trolls - or stooges???

It's fine - YOU can choose both.

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23. "^^*MESSAGE*^^ © Keenen Ivory Wayans"
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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lightworks
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24. "Here’s the problem though: "
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I literally saw it retweeted by a reputable source and was like “Hmmm dang yet another problematic thing said by Biden that’s sucks” and then decided to repost it on OKP.

This idea that there were all those other sources that provided extra context, I meant they coulda politely been provided in the responses to my post but rather than do simply that the post got shut down as misinformation.

I don’t have an issue with not knowing the full story to a quote that’s just human nature in terms of living a life and not always getting the full story and being politely correctly later in a thread.

But this idea that I had some sinister plan is some bullshit and certainly not the case.

I don’t have an issue with someone correcting me but I do have an issue with the idea that I had bad intentions because that for sure isn’t the case.

  

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25. "I never said you were a troll"
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Fri Aug-07-20 07:06 PM by handle

          

>But this idea that I had some sinister plan is some bullshit
>and certainly not the case.

I get it - you are being used as a stooge.

That's literally why they do this. They take well meaning people and trick them into posting misinformation.

So you post was shit troll post --but I believe you aren't malicious, you just let yourself be used.

Hey sometimes it's very sophisticated lies and schemes they use to trick you - not this one - but sometimes. Maybe it got to step 3 when you picked it up, or the site you we're on isn't as trustworthy or smart as you think it is.

Now if IN CONTEXT Biden said something like "Blacks are too dumb to notice how we as Democrats use their vote and then are twice as racist as Republicans!" Or "I think the black people are morons that can only hold a single thought in their misshapen skulls - while Latinos ARE harder to fool!" then yes, that WOULD be some crazy shit.

And when OKP decides it's boards aren't to be used like that then people shit post threads like this (that you did not start - I see that.)

Note:I've been fooled before too.

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28. "RE: I never said you were a troll"
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>>But this idea that I had some sinister plan is some
>bullshit
>>and certainly not the case.
>
>I get it - you are being used as a stooge.
>
>That's literally why they do this. They take well meaning
>people and trick them into posting misinformation.
>
>So you post was shit troll post --but I believe you aren't
>malicious, you just let yourself be used.
>
>Hey sometimes it's very sophisticated lies and schemes they
>use to trick you - not this one - but sometimes. Maybe it got
>to step 3 when you picked it up, or the site you we're on
>isn't as trustworthy or smart as you think it is.
>
>Now if IN CONTEXT Biden said something like "Blacks are too
>dumb to notice how we as Democrats use their vote and then are
>twice as racist as Republicans!" Or "I think the black people
>are morons that can only hold a single thought in their
>misshapen skulls - while Latinos ARE harder to fool!" then
>yes, that WOULD be some crazy shit.
>
>And when OKP decides it's boards aren't to be used like that
>then people shit post threads like this (that you did not
>start - I see that.)
>
>Note:I've been fooled before too.

It sounds like we need a "cooler heads" panel of judges to make rulings, whenever it appears that a public figure has said something fucked up about black people. By this I mean a group of wizened elders who are subject matter experts, who can distinguish the legitimately "crazy shit", from the molehills getting turned into mountains by the peanut gallery of "stooges".

I'd certainly nominate you to this triumvirate Handle, unless you feel you have any conflicts?

  

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29. "No, just stop falling for BS"
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And let the moderators lock what they see fit.

You can wait a day or two - because if Biden does say some crazy shit and stands behind it then it should stay.

But right now people are insta-posting all kinds of stupid shit.

We got folks saying REPLACE Biden before the election - when he has 50.06% of the Democratic Part Primary votes - over 17 MILLION people voted for him. That's in a field that started at 20 candidates. he's the guy WE WANT.

That's advocating disenfranchisement - that shit shouldn't fly either - unless there's a DAMNED good reason.

99% of shit posts stay up - even the "Biden raped me" post is still up.
https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13375016&mesg_id=13375016&page=#13375056


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36. "Its weird because the same people will say Biden keeps saying "
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dumb shit to piss off Black voters in other threads but using a clip to show why it can happen is trolling?

Biden didn’t walk it back because the right wing exploited his interview.

He walked it back because it sounded FUCKED UP even if that wasn’t his intention.

That’s politics. It’s not what he says it’s how he says it and it will be used against him when he choose a clunky way to get his point across.


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39. "He walked NOTHING back"
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>He walked it back because it sounded FUCKED UP even if that
>wasn’t his intention.

It ONLY "sounded fucked up" after you read a snippet out of context and then let your self get indignant.

He responded to the outrage cause by the troll farm and what he said didn't walk ANYTHING back. Because he didn't walk anything FORWARD initially.

That's what they do - find ANYTHING small then try to make it.

In context do you think what he said was:
a)wrong
b)racist

Here's the quote:

Lulu Garcia-Navarro: (32:41)
No. No. Are you going to reengage with Cuba though? I mean, I’m specifically wondering about the Florida communities that are incredibly interested in the Cuba issue and see status given to Venezuelans while Cubans are being deported. So will you engage with Cuba?

Joe Biden: (33:03)
The answer is yes. Yes. Yes. And by the way, what you all know, but most people don’t know, unlike the African American community with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community, with incredibly different attitudes about different things. You go to Florida, you find a very different attitude about immigration in certain places than you do when you’re in Arizona. So it’s a very different, a very diverse community.


That's a 10 second full part of a 54 minute interview.

You say you know that it's a game - picking quotes out of context and then ginning up outrage. But then you say it sounded fucked up because I know YOU didn't listen to that interview for 54 minutes and leave OUTRAGED at the end. (Or even say the 3 minutes before after after the pull quote.)

You are falling for tricks. Then defending yourself for being tricked by saying "He said something SUPER FUCKED UP" when he did NOT.

Now - let me be CLEAR - Joe Biden MIGHT be a closet racist, who rapes people and denies because he's too senile to remember -- because Burimsa oil drugged him as part of a payoff to Hunter Biden -- I just haven't seen any evidence of it ------ YET.

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40. "Why even say ‘unlike the African American community’ AT ALL?"
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It was such a dumb and unnecessary part of the response. Period. Why even allow for a story like that or potentially making a part of ur must have electorate feel some type of way.

That was so incredibly dumb and such an unforced error. “The Latino community is incredibly diverse” and left it at that, it was a question about engaging Cuba, and Florida Cuban Americans and Venezuelan Americans.

That was so dumb and unnecessary, why are ppl trying to explain that fact away???

And B/Black voters in this country *are* very diverse, even amongst Af Ams, not even taking into account all the other black Americans in this country who aren’t Af Ams.

And yes as a Black man I was annoyed by the comment and slightly offended. I’ll still vote for him but this is why he wasn’t my first choice

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42. "Welcome to the inside of your own ass"
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Focus on the inconsequential stuff so they can hide the big picture from you.

I get what you want:
Every time you say something then say everything is equal everywhere else at all times.

Then treat it like math - since they are equal then the cancel each other out and don't speak of it.

A 55 minutes interview and the 5 second part that OFFENDS you is the part that was pointed out by shit trolls?

I think you might have a lot in common with them - maybe Trump's actually your guy?

SERIOUSLY - do you actually think that Biden is suggestion that there is no diversity between any black voters?

Do you ACTUALLY think that???

Do you think he was saying that??

Really???

Hey he's not your first choice - so why not let political operatives and trolls tell you what to focus on.

This is how they sow discord. This is not a honest outrage, this is a manufactured one.

Use your fucking brain.

Do the same when Tara Reade, senility, and Hunter Biden all come back TWICE as big as before.


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44. "RE: Welcome to the inside of your own ass"
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Lmao.. you sound unhinged.

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45. "Word."
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47. "because he's Joe Biden and unforced errors are kind of his thing"
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he's been doing this kind of thing since way before he lost a step. i'm sure there are more to come. this particular one just happens to be racial.

it took me a while to even watch this because any time people outrage over a 10 second cherry picked clip of anything, it's rarely worth even looking at

in context the intent of what he was trying to say is pretty clear. people are reacting because they want to react.

  

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27. "I don't think you had a sinister plan."
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I think we can get better posts and have conversations that aren't pile ons about your weird sourcing

we'll find out I guess

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37. "You didn’t do anything wrong Lightwork"
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this place is just in its feels because they want Biden to win so bad they are in their feels anytime he says something shitty.

If someone else (I won’t say names but they just confirmed Biden keeps saying shit to piss off Black folk) posted the same clip it wouldn’t be called misinformation.

You just touched a nerve because it was indeed a troubling clip on its own. The media quotes politicians all the time to make them sound worse or better than they are but Biden apologized because that shit sounded terrible.

He didn’t have to say that shit. Black people are mad at it and not because they are stooges. We are mad because Biden keeps saying shit he doesn’t need to say to get his point across. It’s typical Joe and it’s the reason OKP wasn’t a big fan of his when this all started.

How can you spread misinformation when you used his own words? Nothing was doctored.

I posted about being worried about Biden saying wild shit like his blonde hair on his legs at the pool clip and Handle responded.. “clutch those pearls”

The fuck does that even mean? Handle just scared.. and rightfully so, because Biden says dumb shit and he’s out here running around attacking anyone who brings up Biden’s gaffes.

Dems aren’t going to highlight his gaffes so anytime someone post a clip of his fuck ups people will claim misinformation even tho it’s the words coming out of his mouth that are the problem.

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55. "nobody cares"
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33. "damn this is kobe on detail level analysis."
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good shit.

  

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34. "na, some people pay attn to politics, some just skim"
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she was clearly out of her element posting something other than chatty cathy gossip

  

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48. "People don’t like to admit to being fooled"
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But it happens to the best of us.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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26. "Can't You Hold Your Shock Value Shit Until After Biden Is In Office?"
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Once he's in office, and t.rumps con-artist azz and his gestapo ideas is outta here, you can talk all the bullshit you find in the matrix and on the dark web you want on GD, I really don't a shit if you think he's unfit, too old school cracker-ish, or two-faced, or what have you, but right now for the rest of 2020 it's all about getting Mr. "grab 'em by the pussy" t.rump out of office, he already going to get a paycheck from the U.S. taxpayers for the rest of his life (so will his wife) until they die; we just need him out of the white house (& Washington D.C. too if that's possible).

Can we agree on that you & that other kat (you know who the fuck you are] put your political jibber jabber on pause until afterwards?


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30. "No one has any sense of civic duty anymore."
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Yes, he can wait.

No, waiting is not worth more to him than feeling temporarily important.

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31. "Lol be nice "
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She’s clearly young and navigating the waters

  

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32. "....that's inaccurate"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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63. "Sure seems like it "
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35. "Russia Working to Damage Joe Biden’s White House Bid"
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people do need to really think about what they are posting and why...

https://www.wsj.com/articles/russia-working-to-damage-joe-bidens-white-house-bid-u-s-intelligence-agencies-say-11596827109
Russia Working to Damage Joe Biden’s White House Bid, U.S. Intelligence Agencies Say

  

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38. "China Working to Damage Donald Trump’s White House Bid"
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/07/us-election-interference-russia-china-iran-intelligence
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53702872
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/07/us-intel-russia-trying-to-hurt-biden-but-china-iran-dont-want-trump.html


Iran in the mix too. Most-likely quite a few countries have workers and bot farms dedicated to propaganda.

The left is just as brainwashed as the right.

  

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43. "Right - the selective hearing on foreign interference is absurd"
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And we still haven't had meaningful conversations are massive interference campaigns - the world over.

We absolutely need to talk about election meddling - but when we only talk about Russia (and don't talk about China, Israel, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc..) - we do a disservice to a more nuanced understanding of the issue.

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58. "imagine being so silly that you listen to flipnile about the "left""
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61. "it's a matter of proportionality and precedent"
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Russia is known to have interfered heavily in the previous election, and their current interference efforts outstrip the others in breadth and scope. That is in addition to Trump's track record of actively courting Russian interference, denial that any interference ever happened, and refusal to take any action against it, coupled with Republican Senators and Congressmen actively propagating disinformation being disseminated by Russian intelligence. Interference efforts by China, Iran, etc. should be addressed as well, but suggesting an equivalence between them does not accurately reflect the situation.

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46. "The new report from the Trump administration's intelligence apparatus—..."
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https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1291840297442381824

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1291840297442381824.html


The new report from the Trump administration's intelligence apparatus—a report focused on 2020 election interference—is misleading in ways U.S. voters desperately need to understand right now. I hope you'll read on and retweet, as a false narrative is being set in stone.

1/ Here's the breaking news from the WALL STREET JOURNAL on 2020 election interference. The goal of the Trump administration intelligence community has been to—deliberately—erroneously equalize three threats in the minds of voters: Russia, China, and Iran.

2/ By focusing on—and equalizing—those three threats, two of which the Trump administration frames as being foreign efforts that are "pro-Biden" and only one of which is framed as "pro-Trump," and by leaving out any significant focus on *other* threats, a false narrative is born.

3/ As the WALL STREET JOURNAL reports, the Russian threat is broad, deep, persistent, pernicious, highly sophisticated, transnational, long-running, and *devoutly* pro-Trump. It is—far and away—the biggest threat from abroad to American voters and to our electoral infrastructure.

4/ But even as the Trump administration tries to equalize the Russian threat with the Chinese one, look at what the WSJ reports as to the Chinese activities: they are "public-facing," " covert," and largely an effort to "deflect criticism of China." Seems *different*, right?

5/ The WSJ continues, noting China wants to "shape the US policy environment"—and is doing so in a way "increasingly critical of the administration's COVID-19 response, closure of China’s Houston consulate, and actions on other issues." That seems like normal activity from China?

6/ So what gives? Russia is waging cyberwar on us; Trump's intelligence community is permitting a framing that may cause some to lump the "China threat" in with the Kremlin one; but when we look at their respective activities, China's doesn't even read like election interference?

7/ Here's the truth: Donald Trump already *openly solicited* Chinese election aid, according to Trump's former NSA, doing so *twice* in June 2019 (once in person, once on a call); he then publicly asked for Chinese aid; and his aide Michael Pillsbury says China already *gave* it.

8/ Given that all of this has already been reported by major media, why isn't the top-line election-interference intel on China (1) that such interference was asked for *three times* by the U.S. president, and (2) that in response to these asks, illegal election aid was *given*?

9/ Where is the assessment of how Trump's quid pro quo with China—already perfected—involved US trade policy with China and intel on the emerging coronavirus? Where are the previously reported quotes from Chinese powerbrokers saying Beijing prefers Trump because he can be bought?

10/ What we get, instead, is a new claim not supported by anything yet reported: that Beijing supports Biden. Moreover, this new claim is proven by Beijing... let me see if I have this right... *criticizing* Trump administration policy it dislikes?

Isn't that standard diplomacy?

11/ In other words, why is China being mentioned as a pro-Biden election interferer, but when you read the news, you can't figure out *what they're actually doing* that's unusual—and moreover, all their prior activity (widely reported on) was pro-Trump and *solicited* by Trump?

12/ To be clear, Chinese does have a massive bot army on U.S. social media; that's been known and reported on for years. There's no question that that army critiques any policies Beijing believes harms it. But again, it's been true for years, and isn't specific to Trump or 2020.

13/ Any intel report on China that doesn't lead with Trump asking Beijing for aid and getting it; that doesn't cite Bolton as an eyewitness to secret Trump entreaties for Chinese aid; or that ignores how Trump negotiated with Beijing or handled China intel in 2019 is simply bunk.

14/ China isn't happy with certain Trump administration policies, just as it wasn't with certain Obama/Biden policies. It believes Trump can be bought, but that Obama/Biden *couldn't* be. It has entered into a quid pro quo with Trump. Chinese election interference *is* pro-Trump.

15/ So what about Iran? That's a much clearer case in certain ways—and much more complex in others. No one doubts that Iran passionately wants Joe Biden to win. That's consistent with all the evidence compiled in my books Proof of Conspiracy (2019) and Proof of Corruption (2020).

16/ Trump and his allies in the Middle East (MBS, MBZ, and Netanyahu) have openly plotted Iran's destruction ever since Trump and his crew engineered the U.S. pulling out of the Iran nuclear deal—even as the opinion of the *entire rest of the world* was that it was working well.

17/ It'd be *national suicide* for Iran to support Trump, so neither I nor anyone else who's written books on Trump's foreign policy—or his compromise at the hands of foreign nations—is surprised to see WSJ report Iran "seeks to undermine...President Trump, and to divide the US."

18/ It's also not surprising *how* Iran is doing it, because it's an *identical method* to how MBS, MBZ, and Israel illegally interfered in the 2016 election on Trump's behalf: "through" (writes the WSJ) "an online influence campaign that includes disinformation on social media."

19/ So if Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Israel interfered on Trump's behalf in 2016—which they did, though the U.S. counterintelligence community *refuses to release its report on it*—why in the *world* wouldn't they do so again in 2020, indeed *more so* to counter Iran's operation?

20/ North Korea was a major cybercriminal threatening America pre-Trump—now it's not focused on by the IC. Is that because Trump gave Kim Jong Un all he wanted by basically *letting* North Korea further develop its nuclear program? Why aren't such major developments highlighted?

21/ Here's what objective major-media reports—i.e., not from Trump's executive branch—tell us about pre-election election interference in 2020:

🇷🇺: Pro-Trump
🇨🇳: Pro-Trump
🇸🇦: Pro-Trump
🇦🇪: Pro-Trump
🇮🇱: Pro-Trump
🇰🇵: Pro-Trump or Neutral
🇮🇷: Pro-Biden

Quite a difference, huh?

22/ The clear purpose of the report just issued is to leave voters with the impression that it's all a big wash: some foreign actors want to aid Trump, some want to aid Biden, they're all doing things covertly, they're all doing things online, yadda yadda yadda, who really knows.

23/ The truth: Russia, China, pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and Israel are engaged in the broadest and most US-administration-*solicited* election interference in *American history*. Iran is trying to aid Biden because Trump wants it destroyed—literally.

24/ I don't condone *any* interference. *All* of it is vile and must be rejected; law enforcement should prosecute *anyone* who solicits or aids/abets it, no matter which party they're from.

But Russia, China, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Israel have acted in an *especially* vile way.

25/ I hope you'll retweet the first tweet in this thread widely. This thread isn't based on conjecture—it's based on the years of research I did for my books on Trump's foreign policy. Whatever its motives for what it reports/withholds, the USIC is *misleading* America right now.

NOTE/ Those aiding Trump—Russia, pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Israel, and China—have provably bribed Trump (see my books for the reports and cites). They've made Trump an agent of their designs via quid pro quos. Iran has no special relationship with Biden.

NOTE2/ We don't have *evidence* yet that Trump was formally recruited by the Kremlin—so yes, those saying so are fringe conspiracy theorists operating on hunches, not the facts. But it hardly matters: we *do* have evidence Trump is acting as an agent of these nations via bribery.

  

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49. "The same person that owns the WSJ also owns FOX News"
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Rupert Murdoch.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rupert_Murdoch

Fox Corporation (FOX News) and News Corp. (Wall Street Journal) are two companies owned by the same person.

Two sides of the same coin.


Think about it...

  

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59. "if you think WSJ and Fox News are different sides"
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then not only are you not a native english speaker

you're also the dumbest motherfucker ever to have been born.


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60. "you made a post postulating coronavirus conspiracy theories"
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>people do need to really think about what they are posting
>and why...

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41. "The plea copping for this fucked ass utterance is mind blowing and "
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I’m some one who pays acute attention to politics

Listen kids, gather around, listen closely....we all still gonna vote for Biden. Saying that what he said was at the very least dumb as hell doesn’t mean we suddenly gonna vote for trump....the nerve

With 20 regular posters this place manages to be toxic as fuck, on all sides.

I’m good.

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51. "We can’t discuss how this could hurt Joe with Black voters"
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it’s not allowed.

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52. "What ?"
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You believe Black voters will not vote for Joe because of this ?

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53. "If we can talk about Kanye stealing the Black vote"
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we should be able to talk about Joe fucking up by including “unlike the AA community” when he didn’t have to say it.

and yes:. He will prolly lose a few Back votes and every vote counts. He can’t keep saying dumb shit like that in an election like this and expect people to remain loyal.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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57. "no one said you couldn't."
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and if it bothered you that much you'd leave, you wouldn't keep whining that someone's blocking you from something you're already doing.

but you gotta pretend someone is doing something to you.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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54. "imagine being a grown man who whines this much"
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that he has to make shit up to whine about during a pandemic.


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56. "Hoppin’ Bob "
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62. "AFRICA IS NOT A COUNTRY!!!"
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Biden was the misinformation

There are twenty something spanish as a first language countries

There are over 50 countries on the CONTINENT of Africa

Over a billion people on the continent, which is more than double the twenty something spanish as a first language countries

So Joe was absolutely wrong in his statement

The Latino(x) population is not more diverse.

^^^this is how you fight disinformation

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65. "except thats not what biden was talking about. at all."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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66. "Are you auditioning to be Joe's translator?"
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I'm so excited for another 4 years of white house press secretaries interpreting what Joe meant

His remarks trend toward the trope of blacks being a monolith

There are very diverse political opinions in the black community

"Unlike the African American community, with notable exceptions, the Latino community is an incredibly diverse community with incredibly diverse attitudes about different things," Biden said. "You go to Florida, you find a very different attitude about immigration than you do in Arizona. So it's a very diverse community."

^^^loud and wrong

...which he doubled down on in a subsequent interview...

"We can build a new administration that reflects the full diversity of our nation. The full diversity of the Latino communities," Biden said. "Now when I mean full diversity, unlike African American community, many other communities, you're from everywhere. From Europe. From the tip of South America, all the way to our border and Mexico and in the Caribbean. And different backgrounds, different ethnicities, but all Latinos."

^^^seems to conflict with you defense that he wasn't talking about diversity in the population

Black people do live everywhere too

...and somehow he managed to directly address the issue of perceiving black americans as a monolith...

“In no way did I mean to suggest the African American community is a monolith — not by identity, not on issues, not at all,“ Biden wrote. “Throughout my career I‘ve witnessed the diversity of thought, background, and sentiment within the African American community. It‘s this diversity that makes our workplaces, communities, and country a better place.“

^^^the walk back...which conflicts with both of previous 'unlike' comments

At this point, I'm not sure what you are defending

Enlighten me, how were his statements factually correct?

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64. "They’re grasping at straws at this point "
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It’s like talking to your PoliSci Major nephew home from his first semester

  

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