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lightworks
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"NASDAQ is hitting an alltime high today."


          

Perfect time to get in on Robinhood.

If anyone wants my link to sign up for Robinhood for the first time and get a free stock, just say "Inbox me".

  

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Raging pandemic with no signs of slowing and economic time bomb
Jul 06th 2020
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For sure it hitting an all-time high today isn't a pattern that will
Jul 06th 2020
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      I don’t have the knowledge to make money when it goes down
Jul 06th 2020
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      I’m thinking less about up or down and more about irrationality
Jul 06th 2020
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           If energy, housing, and car sales aren’t buttressing the market, what ...
Jul 06th 2020
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                Hope and cheap debt
Jul 06th 2020
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                     What's the ceiling on any reward relative to the life 99% of us
Jul 07th 2020
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worst time to jump in is when it’s breaking records
Jul 06th 2020
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Literally the worst time to buy but okay.
Jul 06th 2020
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Gold is at an all time high.. buy now!!!
Jul 06th 2020
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I was gonna say .. delete this shit lol
Jul 06th 2020
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That's What I Was Thinking
Jul 06th 2020
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      RE: That's What I Was Thinking
Jul 07th 2020
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           Between lack of taxes (Microsoft), low wages (McDonalds)
Jul 07th 2020
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           RE: Between lack of taxes (Microsoft), low wages (McDonalds)
Jul 07th 2020
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                Your reasoning doesn't change what your actions are
Jul 07th 2020
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                     ^^^ I like this Dude. I really like this guy
Jul 07th 2020
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           Word. But ya know let these jokers tell it they know everything.
Jul 07th 2020
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                CPI grew 15.7 points in the last four years
Jul 07th 2020
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Someone is always making money in the market.
Jul 06th 2020
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People with that level of knowledge are already in the market
Jul 07th 2020
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      It also feels disingenuous to compare the market of old to the one with
Jul 07th 2020
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Insanity - that will be blamed later
Jul 07th 2020
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Exactly. Half of this country doesn’t even understand the short
Jul 07th 2020
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wtf is this
Jul 07th 2020
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lmao
Jul 07th 2020
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LOL
Jul 07th 2020
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Norovax jumps by 30 dollars off the million dollar deal
Jul 07th 2020
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U.S. government awards Novavax $1.6 billion for coronavirus vaccine, b...
Jul 07th 2020
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I put some money in at the end of March
Jul 07th 2020
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Word. Surprised you are doing well with RC but I am happy you are
Jul 07th 2020
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On it! Seeing my app stocks grow!
Jul 07th 2020
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Awesome! Inboxed you back.
Jul 07th 2020
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everyone with Cash App, go to the squiggly icon (to the right of the $)
Jul 07th 2020
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RE: everyone with Cash App, go to the squiggly icon (to the right of the...
Jul 07th 2020
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Day trading for the average Joe/Jane
Jul 07th 2020
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      That's why trading on a cash app is a problem.
Jul 11th 2020
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           Hmm, thanks for the tip
Jul 12th 2020
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                RE: Hmm, thanks for the tip
Jul 12th 2020
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                Also, I want to add
Jul 12th 2020
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32% of U.S. households missed their July housing payments.
Jul 11th 2020
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Kesha Fucking Christ!!!
Jul 11th 2020
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It’s about to get real ugly
Jul 12th 2020
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NASDAQ be like "cotton & sugar cane are SOARING. It's def. time to buy"
Jul 12th 2020
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Shit.. lol
Jul 13th 2020
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      Mass unemployment, a recession, and a move to digital & remote work
Jul 13th 2020
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           You building your mad max thunder dome right now?
Jul 13th 2020
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                The pandemic will not last forever.
Jul 13th 2020
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                     If all that happens I’m copping at the low low...
Jul 13th 2020
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                     I'm looking for the markets to dip as well, and want to invest if the do
Jul 13th 2020
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                     this might be enough internet for today
Jul 13th 2020
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                          A country where health care is tied to employment sees a historic health
Jul 13th 2020
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US budget deficit hits all-time high of $864 billion in June
Jul 13th 2020
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MEAT
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1. "Raging pandemic with no signs of slowing and economic time bomb"
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Meanwhile the markets are acting irrational. Seems like an optimal time not to guess with money and save it if you got it.
Or buy beans and other canned foods.

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lightworks
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3. "For sure it hitting an all-time high today isn't a pattern that will"
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continue to happen.

But even when the market is tanking there is money to be made, so there definitely is money to be made now.

However in general I for sure agree with you re being conservative with your money pandemic and all.

  

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4. "I don’t have the knowledge to make money when it goes down"
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I watched Trading Places a million times.. even watched a YouTube video and still can’t figure out how they shorted the market.

About to try and watch it again.

In 2008 when it crashed I had a lump sum.. really wish I woulda put it in the market but I was scared.

Still came out fresh since we bought a house with some of that money for the down payment in 2011.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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MEAT
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5. "I’m thinking less about up or down and more about irrationality "
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Mon Jul-06-20 10:37 AM by MEAT

  

          

When a system becomes detached from its drivers then there’s a huge underlying problem that’ll lead to a break
The concern I’m trying to raise is less about making or losing money and more about what the value and stability of things is, in an irrational world.
Even financial systems need to be tethered to the real world.
If your fuel efficiency spikes as you accelerate then something is wrong with your car
If you get the chills when it’s hot, something is wrong with your body
Etc
Right now, something is wrong with the financial and valuation world and we’re the most likely to feel whatever is wrong even if the overall impact is less severe.

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MEAT
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6. "If energy, housing, and car sales aren’t buttressing the market, what ..."
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Thinking out loud here. Haven’t looked.

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10. "Hope and cheap debt"
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I think the market is pricing in the hope that the economy can muddle through, mostly open, until a vaccine is discovered and low interest rates keep asset prices high so middle income+ people still feel comfortable enough to spend.

It feels like there's still alot more risk than reward at this level so it's definitely not the time to push all the chips in.

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MEAT
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17. "What's the ceiling on any reward relative to the life 99% of us"
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legsdiamond
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2. "worst time to jump in is when it’s breaking records"
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Mon Jul-06-20 10:27 AM by legsdiamond

          

I’m in it already but I’m not throwing more money at it than usually. I set it and forget it.

I’m really interested in buying some more real estate once our refi goes through and these housing prices drop a bit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "Literally the worst time to buy but okay. "
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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8. "Gold is at an all time high.. buy now!!! "
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She hit us with the infomercial

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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9. "I was gonna say .. delete this shit lol"
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11. "That's What I Was Thinking"
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What kind of logic is that to buy when the stock is high, especially in an obvious sort of recession, it isn't going to keep going up & up, it probably reached it's peak for the time being.


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14. "RE: That's What I Was Thinking"
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Depends on which stock it is and the value of the company. Maybe it is undervalued even though it’s at an all time high.

For instance take Microsoft. It’s at an all time high, but that puppy is going to continue to rise until earnings at least. And 210.00 for Microsoft is still dirt cheap to me considering the company and where the future is going. Plus with the growth of virtual communicating, 5g, and everything being smart tech soon, Microsoft will see 500.00 a share in the next two years.

McDonalds is always a buy at any price ..why? Because it’s really a real estate company with owning billions of dollars of real estate throughout the globe. Franchises flip the burgers , McDonalds just sits back and collects rent and lease payments , and
also gets a certain percentage of the franchisees’ revenue. Straight Gangsters.


  

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16. "Between lack of taxes (Microsoft), low wages (McDonalds)"
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Or more nefarious things like surveiling Palestinians at the behest of Israel
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/why-did-microsoft-fund-israeli-firm-surveils-west-bank-palestinians-n1072116


I question the morality and actual value of financially tying yourself up with their successes





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allStah
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21. "RE: Between lack of taxes (Microsoft), low wages (McDonalds)"
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>Or more nefarious things like surveiling Palestinians at the
>behest of Israel
>https://www.nbcnews.com/news/all/why-did-microsoft-fund-israeli-firm-surveils-west-bank-palestinians-n1072116
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>I question the morality and actual value of financially tying
>yourself up with their successes
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What?

Tying?

The goal is to trade to make a profit. There are no feelings involved. The idea is to trade their stock in the exchange, nothing more or less. You simply look for the best market play and invest long term or short term.

  

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MEAT
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23. "Your reasoning doesn't change what your actions are"
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>What?
>
>Tying?
>
>The goal is to trade to make a profit. There are no feelings
>involved. The idea is to trade their stock in the exchange,
>nothing more or less. You simply look for the best market play
>and invest long term or short term.


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allStah
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35. "^^^ I like this Dude. I really like this guy"
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A good guy to have a debate with.

Nice straight to the point answer. I can't necessarily say that you are wrong, but again, business is what it means: simply business.


Mike in the Godfather: " See, Tom, all of our people are businessmen and their loyalty is based on that."



  

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lightworks
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29. "Word. But ya know let these jokers tell it they know everything. "
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Thank you for responding in a fantastic educational manner.

Hopefully someone out here will see it and get curious, rather than reading what all the knuckleheads are in here saying, trying to get a laugh.

  

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MEAT
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31. "CPI grew 15.7 points in the last four years"
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For reference the highest jumps in CPI were the four years leading up to 1982 at 31.3 points
Followed by 26.4 points in 2008

From 2015 to 2019 the CPI has grown by 18.7 points

Do you feel that you’ve earned enough money between wages and investments to keep up with rising costs in goods?

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12. "Someone is always making money in the market."
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Mon Jul-06-20 10:38 PM by allStah

          

As long as there is volatility, and swings go back and forth , money will be made one way or another. It’s like a bet, one of the sides is going to win.

We saw that with the mortgage back security crisis, where certain institutions and brokers betted against the market and made billions while the whole market was tanking.

Best thing I ever did was get rid of my ally account and go with webull, so much easier to take advantage of swing and scalp trades and trading options is free as well. They got the best mobile trading app and their desk top software is excellent as well.

Don’t be afraid of an ascending market or a descending market , that’s what the market does, and the NYSE is a 200 year old institution and has been through pandemics, 2 world wars, civil wars, etc ....stock market ain’t going anywhere .

Either make money from long positions, short positions, options, crypto, etc...just got to know how to trade or get inside trader information (lol).





  

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18. "People with that level of knowledge are already in the market"
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shorting stocks isn’t for newbie’s.

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MEAT
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19. "It also feels disingenuous to compare the market of old to the one with"
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High powered computers and algorithms that can buy, sell, and trade faster than a human can think.

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13. "Insanity - that will be blamed later"
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On The Democrats/Biden/ANYONE but themselves.

Fuck the market.

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15. "Exactly. Half of this country doesn’t even understand the short "
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2 week cause/effect of coronavirus numbers. “I went to a party and I feel fine!” 2 weeks later - shocked pikachu face when they are sick.

If half our country is that dumb, they definitely aren’t gonna understand a 1-2 year cause/effect with the economy. Those same people blamed Obama for Bush’s recession and gave Trump credit for Obama’s recovery.

  

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20. "wtf is this"
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dont nobody want your bullshit stock
FOH

  

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22. "lmao"
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32. "LOL "
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24. "Norovax jumps by 30 dollars off the million dollar deal "
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It just made with the government to produce covid vaccines in 2021.

Cats already got PUT options in for it to drop and consolidate by August or Sept.








  

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25. " U.S. government awards Novavax $1.6 billion for coronavirus vaccine, b..."
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This is going to fail and we're all going to be ripped off


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https://business.financialpost.com/news/retail-marketing/u-s-government-awards-novavax-1-6-billion-for-coronavirus-vaccine



CHICAGO — The U.S. government has awarded Novavax Inc US$1.6 billion to cover testing, commercialization and manufacturing of a potential coronavirus vaccine in the United States, with the aim of delivering 100 million doses by January 2021.

The award is the biggest yet from “Operation Warp Speed,” the White House program aimed at accelerating access to vaccines and treatments to fight the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

“What this Warp Speed award does is it pays for production of 100 million doses, which would be delivered starting in the fourth quarter of this year, and may be completed by January or February of next year,” Novavax Chief Executive Stanley Erck told Reuters.

It will also cover the cost of running a large Phase III trial – the final stage of human testing, which could begin as early as October.

The announcement follows a US$456 million investment in Johnson & Johnson’s vaccine candidate in March, a US$486 million award to Moderna Inc in April, and up to US$1.2 billion in support in May for AstraZeneca’s vaccine being developed with Oxford University. The U.S. government also awarded Emergent Biosolutions US$628 million to expand domestic manufacturing capacity for a potential coronavirus vaccine and drugs to treat COVID-19.

A safe and effective vaccine is seen as critical to ending a pandemic that has claimed over half a million lives globally, about a quarter of them in the United States.

The Gaithersburg, Maryland-based company is somewhat of a dark horse in the race for a coronavirus vaccine. The company was not on the list of vaccine finalists for Warp Speed reported by the New York Times that included Moderna, AstraZeneca, Pfizer Inc, J&J, and Merck & Co.

In May, Novavax got an additional US$388 million in funding for COVID-19 vaccine development from the Coalition for Epidemic Preparedness Innovations (CEPI) after a US$4 million investment in March. In June, the U.S. Department of Defense awarded the company US$60 million to support manufacturing of 10 million doses of its vaccine in 2020.

‘A Big Scale-Up’

The company is in the process of transferring its vaccine technology to an unnamed contract manufacturer that has two large manufacturing facilities, the CEO said. That is in addition to the work being done by Emergent Biosolutions, which is making doses to supply the company’s smaller early and midstage clinical trials.

The Novavax vaccine works in conjunction with an adjuvant – a substance that boosts the immune response to help the body build a robust defence against the virus.

Currently, Novavax makes its adjuvant in Sweden. The company is building up U.S. manufacturing capacity for its adjuvant “so that we can make upwards of a billion doses of adjuvant in the United States,” he said.

Novavax did not start human safety trials until late May. One reason for the delay is that the vaccine is grown in insect cells, a process that can take 30 days before company scientists can start purifying it and making it in bulk.

“You lose a month or so there, but I don’t think we’re behind because our data,” he said, referring to animal data showing a strong immune response and high levels of virus-killing antibodies.

Erck said Novavax expects results of its Phase I safety trial within the next week or so. The company aims to start midstage trials in August or September, with Phase III testing starting in October, he added.

By early next year, the company expects to be able to make 50 million doses a month in the United States.

“It’s a big scale up in a few different manufacturing sites in the United States,” Erck said. “What it leaves us with is the capacity of making many more doses in the U.S. in 2021.”

Novavax also has a manufacturing plant in the Czech Republic and hopes to have two other plants in Europe and one in Asia, Erck said. The company is also working with a manufacturer in India. The aim there is to make more than 100 million doses a month, he said.

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26. "I put some money in at the end of March"
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Not any more than I could afford to totally lose though. My "strategy" was/is to just buy stocks cheap that I knew would be successful long term and hold on to them at least until the pandemic is over. I also bought a little bit of Royal Caribbean and United as a total gamble.

I already have a decent amount in a Betterment index fund/bond mix but this was mostly just an experiment. It's actually been really interesting watching how things change with the news etc. I can totally see how rich people get richer off this. I've made a hefty return on a couple of stocks and if I had a lot more money I felt comfortable gambling with, I would be rich beeotch.

I'm up 20% overall as of today.
48% on Apple!
60% on Royal Carribean!

Like if I had bought $20k of RCL, I would have made $12k in a few months doing absolutely nothing. Thats crazy. I've made the most money during a pandemic on a business that can't even function for the foreseeable future.

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28. "Word. Surprised you are doing well with RC but I am happy you are"
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coming out ahead.

So mad I didn't jump on Novavax before the stock went up this morning but at least I got some now and I can flip before it goes back down which is sure to happen.

Stocks is super fun when you can play with money you can afford to lose.

I personally get a kick out of checking the off-hours earnings because I get to be like "Damn I am making money literally as I'm sleeping".

  

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27. "On it! Seeing my app stocks grow! "
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Inboxing you.

Thanks!

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30. "Awesome! Inboxed you back. "
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33. "everyone with Cash App, go to the squiggly icon (to the right of the $)"
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invest in fractions of shares

Tesla's stock is $1,396.22. I've invested $89 and made $25 profit so far

when you sell your stock, Cash App treats it like a normal transaction (get your money back in the bank immediately for a small fee, get it in a few days for free, much quicker than most stock sites)

  

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34. "RE: everyone with Cash App, go to the squiggly icon (to the right of the..."
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It’s not a norm transaction. You’re going to have to pay short capital gains tax on what you sell when it comes time to pay your taxes.

They are basically treating it like crypto by selling fractions of it.

  

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36. "Day trading for the average Joe/Jane"
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I invested $600 and made $215-$230 since April.
My long term goal is to invest a total of $1000 and try to make $1800-$2000 within 6 months.

I've really enjoyed learning about day trading on Cash App. The user interface is so seamless and clean. I also tried Robinhood, which has more options and you can get a free stock, but I find the interface to be cluttered.

Could these online day trading apps become the next social media wave?

I am curious how this money will grow over time. I keep seeing a mixed bag of reviews. Some saying there is no way you can make money and others saying that if you can monitor the trades daily, than you can make money. I figure that I already spend hours/day on instagram, why not check my investments and trade if necessary.

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38. "That's why trading on a cash app is a problem."
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When you trade you have to have a risk assessment plan, meaning you have to know your entry and exit points. That app is not built for that, nor does it provide pre and post market prices, where stocks move as well.

Every GOOD trader sets a price point to take profit and a price point to stop losses. I use WEbull, so if I buy a stock at 10.00, and my goal is to take profit when it hits 20.00, I set a take profit sell order for that price point. So when it hits that point, a sell order is automatically placed in the app. I don't have to manual do anything or be in the app. You can't do that in the cashapp, so that means you would miss out on the price movement if you are not actively looking at the app.

Same thing goes for stopping losses if the stock falls in prices. Traders set a stop loss order, so that if a stock falls to a certain price, a stop order will automatically be placed so that more money isn't lost. Example: If I buy a stock at 10.00, but I don't want to lose more than 20 percent of my investment, then I would set a stop loss for 8.00.....You can't do that in the Cashapp, so you would have to actively be looking at the prices to stop your losses.


If a stock plummets, and you're not in the app to stop it, you're screwed....too dangerous.

Especially with this pandemic, the market is volatile. You gotta have those stop loss and take profit orders in place on any stock investment that you have









  

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40. "Hmm, thanks for the tip"
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I didn't know. I have Robinhood as well. I hate the interface. I will try WeBull.

I only put $500 in. I already made $400 in 3 months as Friday. I know people who bought a bunch of shares of Tesla in January for $1500 and are now at $7000.

I am happy with my little portfolio. But I agree constantly monitoring the app is annoying.

Do you think day trading will be useful for supplementary income in the next 10 years?

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42. "RE: Hmm, thanks for the tip"
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Yes. You should try webull. Just play with it and you will get to know the app. It blows robin hood out the water. And since you already use robinhood, webull wouldn’t be that hard for you.

But hey if cashapp works for you, and you’re making money, can’t argue there . But the more you trade you are going to want something with more features, basically outgrowing cashapp.

At least you’re trading stocks that are winners , and will turn over profits.....day trading is a little bit more complex, and is not easy. 70 percent of day traders lose money. But you have to ask yourself what kind of trader do you want to be:

Scalper : scalping small price swings, in trades for no longer than a few hours to a few mins.

Swing trader: will stay in a trade for a couple of days to a couple of weeks or maybe even a month, looking to hit a price point or take advantage of future movements ...I’m kinda in this boat.

Long term investor: the Warren Buffett method. Look for good companies to invest in, that have a history of long term profit making, and dollar cost avg when buying the stock. This is probably the safest form of trading.

  

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43. "Also, I want to add"
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If you’re having success with cash app, or whatever it is you use, hey, continue with it.

I never put anyone down for making money , or however they do it, just have protection in place.

Mistakes will be made, especially as a beginner, but you want to minimize them as much as possible. My biggest mistakes when I started wasn’t knowing or learning how to invest. I worked in the market place for quite some time, and knew the application of everything, but I had no understanding of risk management. So I didn’t take profits off the table, and I either lost money or broke even.

Study up on risk management when it comes to trading.

  

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37. "32% of U.S. households missed their July housing payments. "
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https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/08/32-percent-of-us-households-missed-their-july-housing-payments.html

As the economic fallout from the coronavirus pandemic continues, almost one-third of U.S. households, 32%, have not made their full housing payments for July yet, according to a survey by Apartment List, an online rental platform.

About 19% of Americans made no housing payment at all during the first week of the month, and 13% paid only a portion of their rent or mortgage.

That's the fourth month in a row that a "historically high" number of households were unable to pay their housing bill on time and in full, up from 30% in June and 31% in May. Renters, low-income and younger households were most likely to miss their payments, Apartment List found.

In April, May and June, the majority of missed housing payments were made by the end of month, Apartment List reports. Almost 90% of households had paid some or all of their rent or mortgage payment by the end of June. But with late fees tacked on, those households may be more likely to miss their next housing bill, perpetuating a vicious cycle.

"Delayed payments in one month are a strong predictor for missed payments in the next," Apartment List says. While 83% of households who paid their May housing in full and on-time also did so in June, only 30% of households who were late in May did so in June.
Worries about evictions mount

States started to reopen their economies last month, but spikes in coronavirus cases led many to re-close sectors or pause reopening plans altogether.

"The economic fallout from the pandemic does not appear on track for the quick V-shaped recovery that many had originally hoped for," reports Apartment List. Plus, the continued coronavirus recession has more Americans worried about evictions and foreclosures, Apartment List found.

Renters are especially vulnerable. About 36% of renters, who are more likely to work in industries devastated by the coronavirus, missed their July housing bill, compared to 30% of homeowners.

The federal eviction moratorium, which covers around one-fourth of renters in the U.S., put in place at the beginning of the pandemic has been extended to the end of August. But many people are still worried about an imminent wave of evictions across the country, as tenant protections vary greatly depending on the state and even city. Many — though not all — states and cities have instituted their own eviction bans; some have already expired, leaving tenants vulnerable at a time when coronavirus cases are increasing in many spots in the U.S.

Many households have already spent their one-time stimulus check, and the extra $600 per week in unemployment insurance — used by many to cover essentials like housing — runs out at the end of July. That means even more households could potentially miss their rent or mortgage payments in coming months.

Housing advocates are calling for a uniform, nationwide eviction moratorium that covers all renters, as well as other federal aid in the form of emergency rental relief. The House or Representatives has passed several measures, including the Health and Economic Recovery Omnibus Emergency Solutions, or HEROES, Act and the Emergency Housing Protections and Relief Act of 2020, to address the housing crisis. Neither bill is expected to pass the Republican-controlled Senate.

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39. "Kesha Fucking Christ!!!"
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That’s crazy, people renting out one or two houses as landlords are definitely going to have trouble paying the mortgages. And people who message July are certainly not going to be able to pay July and August next month, this needs a bail out.

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41. "It’s about to get real ugly"
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GOP talking about waiting to see if the stimulus works. That’s shit ain’t working for the average person. Hell, I know people still waiting on their check or it was mailed to the wrong address.

This is why they are so pressed to open schools.

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44. "NASDAQ be like "cotton & sugar cane are SOARING. It's def. time to buy""
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Me: *looks down at chains*

  

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45. "Shit.. lol"
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I’m not going to act like I don’t have a 401K and some other index funds but I’m really looking to pivot to real estate in the next 5 years.

Prolly buy another property or 2 and rent out our first house.

I feel a bit better about that move than trying to beat the market. I don’t have the stones for day trading.

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46. "Mass unemployment, a recession, and a move to digital & remote work"
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And you’re looking to get into real estate?
Are you wanting to get into bunkers?
Because that’s about all that’s going to be good.

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47. "You building your mad max thunder dome right now? "
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Yes, I’m looking to get into real estate in a few years.

This isn’t going to last forever.

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48. "The pandemic will not last forever."
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The pandemic will not last forever, the economic downturn will last a very long time and it happens to coincide with a decentering of America, which may lead to a shift away from the dollar standard, which will shift away from the stability in housing as an asset ... which combined with accelerating climate change and telework already make housing an unstable force relative to where it was even a decade ago.


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49. "If all that happens I’m copping at the low low... "
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I was fortunate to buy my house after the bubble in 2011 when prices were low. Sucked for the seller but not for us.

I’m not buying today or tomorrow. I’m looking to invest in a few years. If the market dips I plan to take advantage.

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53. "I'm looking for the markets to dip as well, and want to invest if the do"
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>I’m not buying today or tomorrow. I’m looking to invest in
>a few years. If the market dips I plan to take advantage.


I agree with what MEAT is saying about rough times ahead. I think it'll be at least a few years (optimistically) before thing begin to look up again. Also looking at farmland as well, so I can start a small business.

I also recognize the potential opportunity that lies ahead. Real estate seems like a good 5-10+ buy & hold year gamble, as long as no catastrophe like the banks fail or a major US depopulation event happens.

  

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51. "this might be enough internet for today"
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52. "A country where health care is tied to employment sees a historic health"
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crisis alongside devastating unemployment.
This shit is bleak and it's going to get way worse.

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50. "US budget deficit hits all-time high of $864 billion in June"
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Even put the FOX NEWS link because they'll minimize how fuck disastrous this (they'd do the opposite if the money was going to people instead of corporations)

The federal government incurred the biggest monthly budget deficit in history in June as spending on programs to combat the coronavirus recession exploded while millions of job losses cut into tax revenues.

The Treasury Department reported Monday that the deficit hit $864 billion last month, an amount of red ink that surpasses most annual deficits in the nation's history and is above the previous monthly deficit record of $738 billion in April. That amount was also tied to the trillions of dollars Congress has provided to cushion the impact of the widespread shutdowns that occurred in an effort to limit the spread of the viral pandemic.

For the first nine months of this budget year, which began Oct. 1, the deficit totals $2.74 trillion, also a record for that period. That puts the country well on the way to hitting the $3.7 trillion deficit for the whole year that has been forecast by the Congressional Budget Office.

That total would surpass the previous annual record of $1.4 trillion set in 2009 when the government was spending heavily to lift the country out of the recession caused by the 2008 financial crisis.

The June deficit was driven higher by spending on various government relief programs such as an extra $600 per week in expanded unemployment benefits and a Paycheck Protection Program that provided support to businesses to keep workers on their payrolls.

The report showed that the cost of the Paycheck Protection Program in June was $511 billion. That reflected a charge to the government for all the bank loans made under the program even though the government will not actually have to pay out funds until the banks determine whether the businesses met the criteria for having the loans forgiven. Those requirements include spending at least 60% of the loan amount on worker pay with the other 40% going to overhead costs such as rent and utilities.

Another reason for the surge in the June deficit was the government's decision to delay tax payments this year until July 15. That decision mean that quarterly payments made by individual taxpayers and corporations will not be due until July 15 this year rather than June.

So far this budget year, revenues total $2.26 trillion, down 13.4% from the same period last year, while spending totals $5 trillion, up 49.1% from a year ago.

The CBO estimate of a $3.7 trillion deficit for this year could go higher depending on the course of the economy. The country fell into a deep recession in February, ending a record long expansion of nearly 11 years. The Trump administration is predicting that the economy will come roaring back in second half of this year but many private forecasters are concerned that a resurgence of virus cases could make consumers too fearful to resume spending, which drives 70% of the economy.

Congress which has already approved more than $3 trillion in a series of rescue packages, is scheduled to debate another support effort when it returns from recess on June 20. Democrats are pushing for an extension of the expanded unemployment benefits which will soon run out.

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