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"Kanye announces 2020 Presidential run via twitter"


  

          

Man couldn't stand Farrakhan having all that shine for the day.

Trying to help his buddy win again....

*face palm*

https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/1279575273365594112

  

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RE: Kanye announces 2020 Presidential run via twitter
Jul 04th 2020
1
What a fucking disappointment
Jul 05th 2020
2
the deadline to get on the ballot has passed in at least 6 states
Jul 05th 2020
3
this the guy y'all still secretly root for to make "a comeback"
Jul 05th 2020
4
uh....
Jul 06th 2020
31
we really do need to eat the rich.
Jul 05th 2020
5
Man...so true
Jul 05th 2020
22
Obligatory “fuck Kanye”
Jul 05th 2020
6
He’s also a god and a musical genius.. lol
Jul 05th 2020
7
Kanye West has been brainwashed.
Jul 05th 2020
8
Most of his fans are white.. and half of them prolly MAGA fans
Jul 05th 2020
9
How far he has fallen
Jul 05th 2020
10
All this means is his album is finished..
Jul 05th 2020
11
Yeezy season approaching
Jul 05th 2020
12
I went for a walk and pissed in the woods
Jul 05th 2020
13
Im not defending anything, but yall forget he has mental health issues
Jul 05th 2020
14
Or he’s just always been a piece of fucking shit and
Jul 05th 2020
15
not sure what your issue is
Jul 06th 2020
47
youre white
Jul 07th 2020
90
I think he’s a narcissist and maybe it’s mental health issues
Jul 05th 2020
16
You remind me of folks that try to blame racist actions on mental health...
Jul 05th 2020
17
yes, legitimately insane people are prone to saying racist things
Jul 06th 2020
48
What does the DSM say about presidential runs?
Jul 05th 2020
18
Is it normal to have your wife hyping mental disorder related delusions?
Jul 06th 2020
24
      ...yes
Jul 06th 2020
25
      If her last name is Kardashian.. hell yeah it’s normal.
Jul 06th 2020
26
      this family would hype a murder-suicide if it got ratings/views.
Jul 06th 2020
28
           my mind just visualized this so clearly
Jul 06th 2020
37
                i thought about what if kanye truly went off the deep end
Jul 06th 2020
41
this dude is the worst
Jul 05th 2020
19
Zzzzz
Jul 05th 2020
20
idiocracy has begun
Jul 05th 2020
21
This Can't Be Life
Jul 06th 2020
23
Ruckus is releasing a new album
Jul 06th 2020
27
Lurking for someone to say something bad about his music or fashion
Jul 06th 2020
29
True
Jul 06th 2020
46
I’m here.. but I never thought his “changing” was sincere
Jul 06th 2020
30
      RE: I’m here.. but I never thought his “changing” was sincere
Jul 06th 2020
33
      Meh.. I think we are giving Ye too much credit.
Jul 06th 2020
35
      meh its just classic liberal paternalism
Jul 06th 2020
34
Newsweek says he already missed ballot deadline for TX, NY, & Illinois.
Jul 06th 2020
32
i think he missed in 6 states total. however, a friend pointed out...
Jul 06th 2020
36
      other states that he could be on the ballot in
Jul 06th 2020
38
           'preciate the info. thank you.
Jul 06th 2020
39
           he could lead a write in campaign in any state.
Jul 06th 2020
40
                I mean...he could? but even that's not worth acknowledging
Jul 06th 2020
56
                     ...
Aug 05th 2020
432
Didn't he do the same thing four years ago before Pablo came out?
Jul 06th 2020
42
He hasn’t submitted any paperwork
Jul 06th 2020
43
      Right? I don't understand the logic at all.
Jul 06th 2020
44
      It makes no sense but it’s 2020.. lol
Jul 06th 2020
51
      Par for the course
Jul 06th 2020
45
      Those people don't understand how this process works
Jul 06th 2020
49
           Folks, for sure, are right about a write-in vote campaign though.
Jul 06th 2020
50
                The people who write in votes weren’t voting for Biden anyways
Jul 06th 2020
53
                There are way more people like 2Chainz out there than you think:
Jul 06th 2020
54
                I was juuuuust wondering about 2chainz too
Jul 07th 2020
77
                     Not just 2Chainz.. way more people like him
Jul 07th 2020
80
                          I’m dying that you don’t even try to provide any evidence but happil...
Jul 07th 2020
81
                               The last 5 years of Kanye is my evidence
Jul 07th 2020
86
                Also what evidence do you have that people who would vote for
Jul 06th 2020
55
                     Anyone who would change from Biden to Kanye
Jul 06th 2020
58
                          Ok got it so no actual evidence then. I didn't think so.
Jul 06th 2020
59
                          Lmao.. I forgot who I was talking to, carry on.
Jul 06th 2020
60
                               I don’t even know what that means lmao but have a blessed evening.
Jul 06th 2020
61
                               Actually just for the future and for current fun, let's run this back.
Jul 06th 2020
62
                                    You want evidence refuting your Kanye write-in theory?
Jul 06th 2020
65
                                         It’s super okay for you to admit your point was based on thin air.
Jul 06th 2020
66
                                              lol
Jul 06th 2020
68
                                              Yeah.. your 2Chainz link convinced me.
Jul 06th 2020
69
                                              Let's end this now: Here's proof write-in candidates can win elections:
Jul 06th 2020
70
                                                   there still time to edit this shit?
Jul 06th 2020
72
                                              what have i done here lol
Jul 07th 2020
78
                          folks thinking that he'll actually do this are scared.
Jul 06th 2020
64
                               Shit.. I’m scared of voter suppression or lost absentee votes
Jul 06th 2020
67
                                    folks weren't weren't worried about trump either
Jul 08th 2020
108
                I’m supposed to be working on being nice to people
Jul 06th 2020
73
                     RE: I’m supposed to be working on being nice to people
Jul 06th 2020
74
                          you want me to type out how the electoral process works to you?
Jul 07th 2020
76
yeezy llc received multimillion dollar ppp loan.
Jul 06th 2020
52
oh it's something.. and i'd bet thats just part of it..
Jul 06th 2020
63
hope this buries him
Jul 07th 2020
79
DTS - delete this shit
Jul 06th 2020
57
^^^^^^
Jul 06th 2020
71
ConYay Mess The Attention Whore Does It Again
Jul 06th 2020
75
a bipolar writer broke down what I was saying above
Jul 07th 2020
82
Kanye is over 40 and never has to work a day in his life again
Jul 07th 2020
83
Wild how this bi-polar person had the same thoughts as Kanye
Jul 07th 2020
84
      dude why are you fighting so hard to keep this post alive?
Jul 07th 2020
85
           RE: dude why are you fighting so hard to keep this post alive?
Jul 07th 2020
87
           lol
Jul 07th 2020
88
           Because Kanye splitting the vote is a hilarious concept
Jul 08th 2020
91
                the idea of it is hilarious
Jul 08th 2020
92
                     The what if’s are insane.
Jul 08th 2020
93
He wouldn't be acting like this if Jay didn't distance himself
Jul 07th 2020
89
kanye west says hes done with trump (interview)
Jul 08th 2020
94
Gonna run the WH like Wakanda
Jul 08th 2020
95
fwiw im starting to think *hes* serious about a presidential run.
Jul 08th 2020
98
Birthday party
Jul 08th 2020
96
YES!!!!
Jul 08th 2020
97
i used to think he does all this stuff for promo.
Jul 08th 2020
99
btw its funny how he just plainly admits to siphoning off black votes
Jul 08th 2020
100
Dude just took off the red hat yesterday. Besides 2Chainz and Chance
Jul 08th 2020
112
      do you think that your beliefs are the barometer for what other people d...
Jul 08th 2020
115
           I’m not a fan of believing my Black people are going to vote for Kanye
Jul 08th 2020
120
           trump got more of the black vote than mccain and romney.
Jul 08th 2020
125
           McCain and Romney went up against Obama
Jul 08th 2020
140
           Psst: You being a fan doesn't make a thing not exist.
Jul 08th 2020
128
                He's incapable of having intelligent thoughts.
Jul 08th 2020
133
                anyone who thinks Kanye will hurts Biden’s chances is dumb as fuck
Jul 08th 2020
141
                Your trying to convince me Black people will follow Kanye for President
Jul 08th 2020
143
                     Except... You don't know any of that.
Jul 08th 2020
147
           yeah legs usually confines himself to the most narrow logic available.
Jul 08th 2020
122
                Nigga hush
Jul 08th 2020
123
                     lol
Jul 08th 2020
126
The culprit in this whole thing (besides his mental illness)...
Jul 08th 2020
119
I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines.
Jul 08th 2020
101
Word I don't even think about him actually winning, I worry that he
Jul 08th 2020
102
He's going to play the God card, and his running mate is a pastor
Jul 08th 2020
104
      That base you described is Trumps base
Jul 08th 2020
106
           Oh word? You mean, exactly as said in the post you replied to?
Jul 08th 2020
107
                No.. this part
Jul 08th 2020
109
                     Moving the goalpost. and cherry picking fallacy, all rolled into one
Jul 08th 2020
114
                          You are the one who said he was a threat to Biden
Jul 08th 2020
117
                               You have terrible reading comprehension.
Jul 08th 2020
129
                                    Happy Birthday Party!!
Jul 08th 2020
132
                                         Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong
Jul 08th 2020
135
                                              Where did I say you were pulling from the MAGA playbook?
Jul 08th 2020
137
                                              Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook
Jul 08th 2020
144
                                                   There is no sincere discussion to be had regarding The Birthday Party
Jul 08th 2020
145
                                              I said you would pull from Trumps playbook, not legs
Jul 08th 2020
146
                                                   He’s gone full Denny
Jul 08th 2020
149
                                                   Fuck you. Show me all my Alt Right, White Nationalist posts
Jul 08th 2020
151
                                                   Denny was the first one to predict Trump could win..
Jul 08th 2020
152
                                                        Shrug. I thought Trump could win too. You didn't.
Jul 08th 2020
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                                                             Early on I didn’t... but it’s well know on here I changed my mind
Jul 08th 2020
161
                                                                  I remember you changing
Jul 08th 2020
165
                                                   Yep he tossed logic and reason out the window
Jul 08th 2020
154
                                                        CT is now an atheist.. so his view of Christian voters is pretty low
Jul 08th 2020
159
                                                             No, having been a former christian, who still knows christians,
Jul 08th 2020
164
                                                   Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook
Jul 08th 2020
153
                                                        smh
Jul 08th 2020
157
                                                             SMH. That all you have to say?
Jul 08th 2020
160
                                                                  I can say you are not replying to Legs.
Jul 08th 2020
170
                                                                       I can say you're not replying to Spiderman.
Jul 08th 2020
176
                                                                            It sound like you don't know who you are replying to
Jul 08th 2020
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                                                                                 You may have a hearing problem, in that case
Jul 09th 2020
180
                                                                                      I have no problem hearing, but you do have a problem with genuine, sinc...
Jul 09th 2020
215
                                                                                      Talk about bending and twisting
Jul 10th 2020
225
                                                                                      Nah you projecting
Jul 10th 2020
227
MAGA people don't love Kanye and Candance Owens
Jul 08th 2020
105
      This depends on context and definitions of the word "love"
Jul 08th 2020
110
lol
Jul 08th 2020
103
for the political heads
Jul 08th 2020
111
For the love of all things sane.. no, fuck no, fuuuuuck no.
Jul 08th 2020
113
lmao
Jul 08th 2020
116
These people are serious..
Jul 08th 2020
118
      They set up camp in bizzaro world
Jul 08th 2020
124
           Muhfukkas like “I didn’t say what I just said”
Jul 08th 2020
131
           lmao
Jul 08th 2020
                RE: lmao
Jul 08th 2020
163
                     Look up his VP... Michelle Tidball
Jul 08th 2020
166
           Demonstrably false.
Jul 08th 2020
134
he would need state delegates to vote him in as the nominee
Jul 08th 2020
121
Everything up to that last line is on point.
Jul 08th 2020
130
      in 2018 in the midst of kanyes trump fan boying
Jul 08th 2020
136
           He will get his fans and some young kids who wouldn’t particpate
Jul 08th 2020
142
           I may well be wrong on this.
Jul 08th 2020
150
                What Dem Christian is going to vote Kanye after his MAGA stunt?
Jul 08th 2020
155
                     Again, you see people as monolithic instead of tribal
Jul 08th 2020
158
                          I know when someone votes third party or writes in
Jul 08th 2020
162
*cackling* ye really got ppl shook out here.
Jul 08th 2020
127
I don't know who's dumber, Kanye or the people who he makes nervous
Jul 08th 2020
139
      In any conversation about "who is dumber", with your name in it
Jul 08th 2020
167
           Yet, this all matters so much more to you than it does me
Jul 08th 2020
178
                funny, it matters to you when your trying to fit in
Jul 08th 2020
179
                     do you sit at the drama kids table in the cafeteria? the jock table?
Jul 09th 2020
184
                          However you imagine that scenario, lmao
Jul 09th 2020
187
READ BOOKS
Jul 08th 2020
169
due to a recent reply in here i take this all back
Jul 09th 2020
193
FFS he's running on the "Birthday Party."
Jul 08th 2020
138
Man is on the spectrum *Larry David voice*
Jul 08th 2020
148
There's a difference between the candidate, and the voter.
Jul 08th 2020
168
Palin was in politics at the time
Jul 08th 2020
172
      Hence... "continual lowering of the bar".
Jul 08th 2020
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           Arguing against the probability and the possibility..
Jul 09th 2020
185
                Passionately. Fervently. With zeal and dedication
Jul 09th 2020
188
                     True indeed.. especially when his fam puts it out there a day later
Jul 09th 2020
189
                          Yes, you do seem to enjoy discussing people's mental illness
Jul 09th 2020
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                               Well, if someone has mental health issues it shouldn’t be ignored
Jul 09th 2020
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                                    Except you discuss it derisively, and use it as a weapon
Jul 09th 2020
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                                         Ehh.. if you sound crazy I’m gonna say it.
Jul 09th 2020
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                                              I know. Because that's how you act
Jul 09th 2020
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                                                   I’ve never diagnosed anyone.. just like you’ve never killed anyone
Jul 09th 2020
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                                                        You still think mental health is a fair attack point. Currently.
Jul 09th 2020
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                                                             Stop lying... post a link to these recent mental health jabs
Jul 09th 2020
224
Kanye is boring at this point, but I laughed at Birthday Party
Jul 08th 2020
171
      That was funny
Jul 08th 2020
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      funniest part is you know he was dead serious and not trolling.
Jul 08th 2020
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Family said he is having another episode.
Jul 09th 2020
181
if its in tmz then you know its leaked directly from the kardashians.
Jul 09th 2020
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Definitely
Jul 09th 2020
183
fuck Elon Musk though
Jul 09th 2020
186
One thing I have learned about Kanye is not to laugh at him
Jul 09th 2020
190
LOL!
Jul 09th 2020
192
Gotta update the database
Jul 09th 2020
196
Aren’t you from Chicago?
Jul 09th 2020
194
Your opinions and thoughts....
Jul 09th 2020
197
The Trump won so don’t trip is played out.
Jul 09th 2020
204
you've made 75% of the posts here you must be his campaign manager lol
Jul 09th 2020
201
      A campaign manager telling him to get back to music and stfu
Jul 09th 2020
202
jesus.
Jul 09th 2020
198
problem is that's not exactly what happened
Jul 09th 2020
207
I got to say, I am a bit shock Kanye earns a 200+ post here.
Jul 09th 2020
200
You're just one person out of
Jul 09th 2020
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Nah. I am going to laugh at this.
Jul 09th 2020
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      Basically.
Jul 09th 2020
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           Thank you 2 for pointing this out.
Jul 09th 2020
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                Who said he can throw together a legit run in four months?
Jul 09th 2020
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It's not Kanye that got 200 posts.
Jul 09th 2020
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It’s wild because this place hates Kanye..
Jul 09th 2020
211
Those two things are very different issues.
Jul 09th 2020
212
      So what you are saying is he has a chance?
Jul 09th 2020
213
           My thoughts have been made pretty clear
Jul 09th 2020
214
really not liking this us agreeing on stuff thing
Jul 09th 2020
221
      I legit LOL'd.
Jul 09th 2020
223
TMZ: Kanye West in the midst of bi-polar episode
Jul 09th 2020
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I feel like everyone's had a conversation with someone
Jul 09th 2020
219
I've been saying this.
Jul 10th 2020
226
aw come on...his trash ass "family" is perfectly fine with all of this
Jul 11th 2020
228
Kim and co licking their chops at this
Jul 11th 2020
229
      You mean.. they actually like attention? even if its negative?
Jul 14th 2020
232
Chance was team Prez Yeezy until he got the Terry Crews cosign lol
Jul 14th 2020
230
Wait. Terry Crews endorsement is what sent him packing?
Jul 14th 2020
231
That's pure comedy. I really enjoy Chance as a performer...
Jul 14th 2020
233
So wild that Chance is such an idiot considering that his dad
Jul 14th 2020
234
      What about 2Chainz?
Jul 14th 2020
235
           He's an idiot too. Anyone considering voting for Kanye is.
Jul 14th 2020
236
so kanye was (his version of) serious.
Jul 14th 2020
237
This sounds about right.
Jul 14th 2020
238
I'm sure there's someone taking his money
Jul 14th 2020
239
he already dropped out
Jul 15th 2020
240
I’m still worried about him taking votes from Biden
Jul 15th 2020
249
Can we all agree it was a complete waste of time, mental energy, media
Jul 15th 2020
241
What's the lesson?
Jul 15th 2020
242
Kanye was never going to impact Biden’s chance to win
Jul 15th 2020
245
Seems we covered all of that.
Jul 15th 2020
246
Oh yeah no I didn't read this post to any level of detail.
Jul 15th 2020
247
      lol fair enough, especially the pettiness.
Jul 15th 2020
260
It was an entertaining break
Jul 15th 2020
243
I'll do it, I will step up and say it.
Jul 15th 2020
244
No serious politico was giving this any thought
Jul 15th 2020
248
      Politico thought enough to devote 1000 words to it.
Jul 15th 2020
250
           1,000 words ain’t shit in today’s news cycle.
Jul 15th 2020
251
           I didn’t mean the publication
Jul 15th 2020
259
WE BACK UP IN THIS BITCH
Jul 15th 2020
252
Smh
Jul 15th 2020
253
LMAO
Jul 15th 2020
254
The promo continues
Jul 15th 2020
255
jesus.
Jul 15th 2020
256
Yeezus
Jul 15th 2020
257
he'd be worse than Trump
Jul 15th 2020
258
may want to wait for more info, FEC filings
Jul 15th 2020
261
      perfect time for someone to start up a scam pac and an actblue account.
Jul 15th 2020
262
on the ballot in oklahoma.
Jul 15th 2020
263
This second season of Watchmen already sucks.
Jul 15th 2020
264
ok NOW it can be discussed as a thing that is happening
Jul 15th 2020
265
What an odd state to get on a ballot. Here’s my theory
Jul 16th 2020
266
      I could see that
Jul 16th 2020
268
      Oh it’s definitely the latter.
Jul 16th 2020
269
      didnt they say it was easy to run for office in OK in tiger king?
Jul 16th 2020
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      Yup. I’m sure this is where they got the idea to run there
Jul 16th 2020
272
      it's possible. it's also possible that he's just nuts
Jul 16th 2020
275
      theres no 3d chess with kanye.
Jul 19th 2020
280
He's filed more documents. Jesus I fucking hate him so much:
Jul 16th 2020
267
damn this could possibly turn out to be the clusterfuck some of us fear.
Jul 16th 2020
276
some of ya'll are legitimately upset with a certified crazy person
Jul 16th 2020
270
who is legitimately upset? please, post the names and the posts
Jul 16th 2020
273
      you're the worst poster here, no one wants to engage with you
Jul 16th 2020
274
           Meanwhile, I've built long, genuine friendships on this site.
Jul 16th 2020
277
ye posts request for petition signatures to get on south carolina ballot...
Jul 18th 2020
278
he tweeted the july 24th release date and tracklist then deleted it.
Jul 19th 2020
279
‘campaign rally’ tomorrow in charleston.
Jul 19th 2020
281
He’s going to campaign in a heavy red state
Jul 19th 2020
282
.
Jul 19th 2020
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Nah it’s today not tomorrow.
Jul 19th 2020
283
i posted that last night boo. :)
Jul 19th 2020
284
      Ah my bad booski :-)
Jul 19th 2020
285
im watching the 'rally' right now.
Jul 19th 2020
287
dude said harriet tubman didnt free slaves
Jul 19th 2020
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now dude is breaking down screaming and crying.
Jul 19th 2020
289
      and people were in here afraid he could steal some Biden votes
Jul 19th 2020
294
      niggas voted for harambe fam.
Jul 19th 2020
298
           and they may vote for Kanye
Jul 19th 2020
299
      see this is the shit im talking about.
Jul 19th 2020
295
WTF this looks crazy as hell
Jul 19th 2020
290
WAKE UP MR. WEST!!!
Jul 19th 2020
291
top 14 most startling things kanye west said at his first rally
Jul 19th 2020
293
Man.Fuck.That.Guy.
Jul 19th 2020
296
dear god
Jul 20th 2020
324
Yeah A Friend Of Mines Was There Having Fun
Jul 19th 2020
312
Live FB link for those who can stomach to watch:
Jul 19th 2020
292
Told you mofos. you didnt think the dude was serious.
Jul 19th 2020
297
Wait.. we shouldn’t laugh at this?
Jul 19th 2020
300
mental illness is hilarious
Jul 19th 2020
301
      He thinks Kanye has a legit chance to win.. that’s hilarious.
Jul 19th 2020
306
           HOW DARE YOU
Jul 19th 2020
313
           It’s not about him winning or losing
Jul 19th 2020
315
           It’s self promotion.. that’s it.
Jul 20th 2020
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           I said Biden wouldnt be much better and we've survived worse
Jul 20th 2020
322
                you said “what’s so bad about another 4 years of Trump?”
Jul 20th 2020
323
                     oh okay, you're sucking dick again for no reason
Jul 20th 2020
326
                          Mad because I quoted you?
Jul 20th 2020
329
                               calling me out of my name doesnt change your character on here
Jul 20th 2020
341
                                    says the guy who constantly says he is a better person
Jul 26th 2020
373
How many people are draining this dude's money????
Jul 19th 2020
302
      ^^Facts
Jul 19th 2020
305
           Crawl out of? Dude is insanely rich and been famous for 15 years
Jul 19th 2020
307
                Right. He is using his resources to do so.
Jul 19th 2020
308
                Nah... rich people have been running for office since forever.
Jul 19th 2020
309
                Stop laughing
Jul 19th 2020
310
                I don't think he is going to win....
Jul 19th 2020
311
                     Nah it's not going to do anything
Jul 19th 2020
314
                          This ain’t 1996 or 2000.
Jul 19th 2020
316
                               You’re moving the goalpost a bit
Jul 20th 2020
318
                               really the difference between trump and kanye
Jul 20th 2020
320
                                    I’m not even sure what Kanye’s fans are politically
Jul 20th 2020
321
                               It's not the year 3000 either
Jul 20th 2020
327
                Yeah He's Promoting His Album Thru Other Means
Jul 20th 2020
344
The media needs to quit covering this bs.
Jul 19th 2020
303
i haven't seen the whole thing but from the clips
Jul 19th 2020
304
Shoutout to him giving Claudette Colvin some publicity though
Jul 20th 2020
317
These hip hop niggas like some of y’all hate black women:
Jul 20th 2020
325
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xSLlZh9yelk
Jul 20th 2020
328
this was the dude they were worried about stealing Black votes.
Jul 20th 2020
330
      black men are applauding tory for shooting meg
Jul 20th 2020
331
           That explains all the Black men at that Kanye rally
Jul 20th 2020
332
           RE: That explains all the Black men in this post
Jul 20th 2020
338
           who twitter niggas?
Jul 20th 2020
339
                All it takes is one..
Jul 20th 2020
340
                lazy niggaz are also complicit
Jul 21st 2020
348
                     fed knowledge on Torey and Meg the stallion? Lmao.
Jul 25th 2020
357
                     I can't with these niggas sometimes man
Jul 26th 2020
375
                     So fuck Burden of Proof right?
Jul 26th 2020
377
heres her giving her story:
Jul 20th 2020
334
      I....
Jul 20th 2020
337
      went light on the white chick, heavy-hand on the sista...surprised?
Jul 20th 2020
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Eric B throws his hat in the presidential ring too
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and after all that..he missed the deadline to get on the ballot in sc.
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I wonder how many signatures he got
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      fucking embarrassing but restored my faith in the country a lil bit lol.
Jul 20th 2020
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he's now being weird on twitter
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He’s definitely having a manic episode. He needs help.
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GLC was on Van Lathan/Rachel Lindsey's podcast Higher Learning &:
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ye says he can beat biden with write in votes.
Jul 25th 2020
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Lmao.. you think it will happen because he tweeted it?
Jul 25th 2020
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you gonna keep moving the goalposts after being wrong at every step?
Jul 25th 2020
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You are bragging about predicting a spoiler write in campaign
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      fam you replied to me then went beserk cuz i pointed out you been wrong.
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           Bezerk? Do you hear yourself?
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                its ok to be wrong. pointing it out shouldnt send you into a tantrum.
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                     Happy Birthday bro
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                          be well.
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                               Likewise
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wait whaattttttt lol
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lol
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Posted it TWICE.. BDP!!!
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      lmao
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           This dude weird af.
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                ^all cried out (c) lisa lisa
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                Fam.. being scared of Kanye’s write in campaign
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                I read that timeline and I was thinking, that's not the best way
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                     Everyone is waiting on the album
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                          lol
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                               Ye got this nigga shook
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                                    Exactly
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                                    When we look back at this thread in a month.. lmao
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                                    Kanye bringing them out
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                                         Fame is a helluva drug
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                                    legs went plat by himself in here. you aint have to do him like this.
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                                    It’s not just Kanye....
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                                         Kanye doesn’t matter in this election
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Reeq has a whole trail of people mad at him hahaa
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you mean, a legsdiamond like back and forth.
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      Turned into a legs and lurkmode butt buddy fest lol
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           Yeah.. you being weird and goofy again
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           you've convinced yourself Reeq thinks that
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           lol smh
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           what makes it worse is he went at lightworks early in the thread
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                Damn
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                Here you two are. being butt buddies in this post again
Jul 27th 2020
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                     legs alone makes up at least 50% of the replies in the post
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                     It’s a shame I had to clown y’all so much in here
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                          fam you almost double plat in here. keep replying!
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                               Keep updating us on his chances to spoil this for Biden
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                               go! go! go! go! go! go! go! (whos next?)
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                               Lmao he helps keep this place alive I guess
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                                    lil bro carrying okp on his back like school books.
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                     Don't project just walk out that closet
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           .......butt buddies? Seriously?
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           you know what I was wrong for adding your name into that
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                Shook Ones pt. III
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           lol legs and lurk got some interesting ‘chemistry’.
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                Forget JaRule get Kanye on twitter, what does he think
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                     Kid see ghost sometimes?
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                     who is saying this?
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                     It's a close one
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                     congrats on the whitest joke in the post.
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                          Thank you I got it from Jimmy Kimmel when he was doing his
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I don't know why we're basing updates off of his tweets or stuff he says
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But he made Flashing Lights
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everyone poopooing this reply & Ye's tweets don't remember 2016
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      It wasn't rumors, it was white women and racism
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           you literally described what i said as the individuals
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                Dumb is coming into a Kanye tweets thread saying don't "poopoo"
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                     did you take Trumps presidency run seriously?
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                          Lmao. Y’all need to stop this shit.
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                          I thought he would lose
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                               Mofos can’t admit they got played by the Kanye hype.
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                               lmao
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                               no one is saying "watch out for kanye"
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                                    Oh.. so watch out for Kanye the distraction that can help Trump
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                                    Don't poo poo the distraction
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                                    Kanye is a harmful distraction
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dude out here submitting falsified signatures in at least 2 states.
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Poor North's little hands are probably beyond tired lmao
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Someone is going to get in trouble over this
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already committing fraud.
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well hes making a play to get on the ballot in swing states wi and oh.
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btw 2 people connected to his campaign have republican ties.
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It amazes me that there are people who like Kanye West
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kanye signatures in wisconsin dropped off by well known repub lawyer.
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same lawyer represented trump campaign just a week ago.
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Trump operatives are trying to get him on more ballots
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kanye indicates that his spoiler campaign is designed to hurt biden
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peeped that the second I saw his initial annoucement
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At least he's finally being honest now. What an asshole though.
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The concern about Kanye taking black Dem votes is insulting
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he got 2% in a national poll just by announcing his run on twitter.
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and Trumps numbers went down, not Biden’s in that poll
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jorgensen (libertarian) went up too.
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lol
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Dez Bryant said he was just joking
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i find it amusing myself
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      Your support for him will never waver
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      i support ye and criticize him when i think its necessary
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      You’re voting for him aren’t you?
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           nope.
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           double o is, though
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so he may be off the ballot in illinois
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looks like he will prolly get taken off the ballot in wisconsin too.
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      Maybe you should stop giving this attention?
Aug 08th 2020
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Cernovich and Nick Cannon endorsing
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anti-semites of a feather flock together
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kanye west met with jared kushner last weekend.
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What's the legalities on this?
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      has legality even mattered the last 3 plus years?
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Republican strategist thinks it’s a publicity stunt
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nothing would make me happier than to be wrong.
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      I’m pretty sure dababy can’t even vote
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           no doubt but he aint the only dumb nigga with a voice or a vote.
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                I hear you but.. dumb voters should never be our last hope to win
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Kushner talking about their friendship at a Presser today: https://twitt...
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kushner being involved actually makes me relieved a bit.
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      Lmaooo
Aug 13th 2020
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      Lollll
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      Lincoln Project ran an ad calling him Secretary of Failure
Aug 20th 2020
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This dude still running.. err walking with these fake signatures?
Aug 14th 2020
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He said the DNC is spying on him and trying to keep a Black man
Aug 14th 2020
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      Lmao.. I guess that album ain’t dropping until Nov 5th
Aug 14th 2020
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wisconsin board of elections will review complaints 8/20
Aug 15th 2020
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off the ballot in wisconsin.
Aug 20th 2020
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Trump polling well behind in Wisconsin post-convention
Sep 15th 2020
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blocked from ballot in montana.
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fraudulent electors in virginia.
Aug 22nd 2020
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These people just signing papers without knowing who it’s for?
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      theyre saying it was done without their knowledge/consent.
Aug 24th 2020
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           Gotcha.. it reads like they signed something
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                Please just let this thread die already, lol
Sep 15th 2020
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I really don't think any Kanye votes hurt anyone but Trump (at best)
Sep 17th 2020
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I read that he posted a video peeing on a Grammy
Sep 17th 2020
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reactivated his instagram just to post a campaign video.
Oct 12th 2020
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Just vote
Oct 12th 2020
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ye is getting ripped off.
Oct 20th 2020
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He’s spending that PPP money
Oct 20th 2020
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wut
Oct 20th 2020
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      Pretty sure I read he received between 2 to 5 mill in PPP loans
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           I’ll always love College Dropout too
Oct 20th 2020
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spent $200k on that one campaign 'ad' alone.
Oct 20th 2020
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it's one thing watching bloomberg waste fortunes for nothing
Oct 20th 2020
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Only a matter of time before...
Oct 20th 2020
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damnnnn ... got used and spit out like a whore
Oct 20th 2020
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how did this dude even get accepted into a college to drop out of?
Oct 20th 2020
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ey i wonder how much he paid for this video.
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johnblaze
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1. "RE: Kanye announces 2020 Presidential run via twitter"
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This guy.

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2. "What a fucking disappointment "
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3. "the deadline to get on the ballot has passed in at least 6 states"
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New York and Texas being the biggest of the six. he's not running because he can't run. too late, thankfully.

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4. "this the guy y'all still secretly root for to make "a comeback""
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smh

  

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31. "uh...."
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https://media.giphy.com/media/3ohhwfwxg4d1h82LxS/giphy.gif

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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

  

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Reeq
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5. "we really do need to eat the rich."
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even tho this most likely isnt a serious thing...imagine the amount of vanity you need to watch all of the pain and trauma unfold over the last month or so and decide youre gonna use this election as your personal publicity stunt.

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wiseguy
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22. "Man...so true"
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Dude Jim Jones (white Jim Jones) level narcissist

  

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MEAT
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6. "Obligatory “fuck Kanye”"
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7. "He’s also a god and a musical genius.. lol"
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He said it, so it gotta be true.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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8. "Kanye West has been brainwashed."
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Y'all just gonna forget about this:
https://static.standard.co.uk/s3fs-public/thumbnails/image/2016/12/13/07/kanyewestblone2312a.jpg
https://cdn1.thr.com/sites/default/files/2016/12/kanye_0.jpg

Right after he started talking shit about the people that run things.



Dude looks like he's fighting it, but still gets them phone calls where they say his first, middle and last names.

This all looks like a distraction to ultimately help Trump win.









http://www.tvovermind.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/manchurian-candidate.jpg

  

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legsdiamond
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9. "Most of his fans are white.. and half of them prolly MAGA fans"
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I really can’t see how this helps Trump.. Kanye fans aren’t the most dependable when it comes to voting anyways.

We really give this dude way too much credit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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10. "How far he has fallen "
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There is no redeeming himself after all this

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"Mindless populism embodied by Trump and Sanders are like a malignant wart on our body politic"

  

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11. "All this means is his album is finished.. "
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His promo runs are pathetic but unfortunately it works.

Next album he will announce he is going to Mars.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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12. "Yeezy season approaching"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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13. "I went for a walk and pissed in the woods"
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Except I actually did my thing.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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14. "Im not defending anything, but yall forget he has mental health issues"
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it's attention seeking and a dangerous use of social media, but he still doesnt appear to be in his right mind

  

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15. "Or he’s just always been a piece of fucking shit and"
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the money and fame just amplified it to insufferable levels.

  

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47. "not sure what your issue is"
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his mom died at the height of his success and he felt responsible

he's said and done a lot of "crazy" shit since but "fucking piece of shit"is pretty extra

  

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90. "youre white"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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legsdiamond
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16. "I think he’s a narcissist and maybe it’s mental health issues"
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but I really think he just knows how to play the media.

Given who he is married to and how he always seems to have “mental issues” right before his project drops leads me to believe he’s just calculated.

and yes, it’s sad he will do and say anything to get attention but that shit works.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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lightworks
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17. "You remind me of folks that try to blame racist actions on mental health..."
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As in, sure people can have mental health issues they need to deal with but at a certain point pawning whatever dumb shit they do off on it being about that is hella foolish.

  

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48. "yes, legitimately insane people are prone to saying racist things"
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they don't deserve a pass

but also, there's a difference between Kanye announcing a presidential bid and racism

unless you're harping on the MAGA era which isn't related to this story

  

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18. "What does the DSM say about presidential runs?"
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24. "Is it normal to have your wife hyping mental disorder related delusions?"
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https://twitter.com/KimKardashian/status/1279597399380332544?s=19

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You ain't the only one whose got problems. You ain't the only one who knows pain. Get up off your ass and just solve them. You still got a chance to try to change, try the shit again.
Devin tha Dude

  

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25. "...yes"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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26. "If her last name is Kardashian.. hell yeah it’s normal. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Reeq
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28. "this family would hype a murder-suicide if it got ratings/views."
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Amritsar
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37. "my mind just visualized this so clearly"
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like how it would play out


what a time we're living in

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41. "i thought about what if kanye truly went off the deep end"
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like dark, violent, abusive, etc.

a true psychological breakdown.

and how much the family would chronicle it and exploit it for drama.

everyone saying how fearful they were, how much they tried to help him, how they were terrified for the safety of the children, kim doing that cry face thing, travis scott having to sit at the front door with a gun lol, etc.

theres absolutely nothing these people wouldnt capitalize off of.

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19. "this dude is the worst"
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and his music is wack.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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20. "Zzzzz"
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21. "idiocracy has begun "
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23. "This Can't Be Life "
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27. "Ruckus is releasing a new album"
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Where are the people from that other thread who thought he might be changing ?

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29. "Lurking for someone to say something bad about his music or fashion"
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46. "True"
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When that album is released they will be right there.

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30. "I’m here.. but I never thought his “changing” was sincere"
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he just changes with the times for branding and marketing purposes.

I just find it odd how people who hate him still hang on his every word like it means anything.

2 coworkers came in talking about it. His trolling works but when I see people on some “he’s gonna split the vote” I smh.

What person who wanted Trump to lose is now going to vote Kanye over Biden? Cmon people.

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33. "RE: I’m here.. but I never thought his “changing” was sincere"
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>What person who wanted Trump to lose is now going to vote Kanye over >Biden? Cmon people.

I think you're giving Americans way too much credit.

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35. "Meh.. I think we are giving Ye too much credit. "
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I have a hard time with believing someone who was going to vote for Biden is going to switch to Kanye.



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34. "meh its just classic liberal paternalism"
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>2 coworkers came in talking about it. His trolling works but
>when I see people on some “he’s gonna split the vote” I
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i saw so much of that this weekend and then they wonder why folks are put off by how they operate even if they are right.

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32. "Newsweek says he already missed ballot deadline for TX, NY, & Illinois. "
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He ain't serious folks.

  

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36. "i think he missed in 6 states total. however, a friend pointed out..."
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that none of the states missed were "swing" states.

so, if he decides to go full villain and actually do this, he could fuck up the vote in states that "matter."

i say all this having done no research of my own. just a thought. a scary thought.

also, i retract all my Kanye music takes from last week. he needs to go hang out in Wyoming and chill til Spring 2021, at minimum.

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38. "other states that he could be on the ballot in"
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would require number of signatures submitted in an amount of time that is...unreasonable

in Michigan, for example it would take 30,000 signatures that he could submit in ten days

https://ballotpedia.org/Ballot_access_requirements_for_presidential_candidates_in_Michigan


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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39. "'preciate the info. thank you."
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40. "he could lead a write in campaign in any state."
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assuming the goal isnt actually winning but fucking things up and letting trump win.

i could actually see him still telling people to write his name in for vain reasons even if he doesnt give a fuck about the outcome of the election.

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56. "I mean...he could? but even that's not worth acknowledging"
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unless it really happened, which so far it has not.

and even if he did try it I do not think it would amount to anything.



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432. "..."
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42. "Didn't he do the same thing four years ago before Pablo came out?"
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Wild to see so many pundits on Twitter take this seriously. Political Twitter really showed its ass this weekend.

  

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43. "He hasn’t submitted any paperwork"
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https://www.thefader.com/2020/07/06/kanye-west-paperwork-presidential-run-2020

The fact people on here are actually wondering if he could fuck up an election shows us how far we have fallen.

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44. "Right? I don't understand the logic at all."
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Even in this imaginary world where he actually runs there's no strategy. Everyone knows he pro-MAGA and likes Trump. Where's this sizeable contingent of people who support Biden but then see the "light" because of Kanye? Maybe the same kind of people who would write in joke candidates like Harambe and shit but what are the odds those folks would vote seriously for Biden or Trump anyway? If they're influenced by Kanye's recent politics why wouldn't they just support Trump straight up?

It just feels like people need content to grasp onto to make the election feel closer than it's polling right now after Trump fucked up the COVID response.

  

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51. "It makes no sense but it’s 2020.. lol"
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Out here begging people not to vote for Kanye because it will split the Biden vote.

Who are these people who waited 4 years to vote Trump out who get duped by Kanye?

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45. "Par for the course"
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Somebody on this board said Kanye was mainstreaming the alt right when he kicked off his maga promo way back.

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49. "Those people don't understand how this process works"
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you can't just step into the ring now and expect to be on ballots

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50. "Folks, for sure, are right about a write-in vote campaign though. "
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53. "The people who write in votes weren’t voting for Biden anyways"
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Not a fan of the idea that Black folk are so stupid they will write in his name.

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54. "There are way more people like 2Chainz out there than you think:"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CCPoq5DFZdx/?igshid=qdbt4wp1wa0y

  

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77. "I was juuuuust wondering about 2chainz too"
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instead of the polls



to get a pulse on the national electorate

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80. "Not just 2Chainz.. way more people like him"
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and they were going to vote for Biden too.

But now?

It’s Yeezy season!!!

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81. "I’m dying that you don’t even try to provide any evidence but happil..."
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on someone’s back so they can try to carry you to what you think is the finish line lmaooooo

  

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86. "The last 5 years of Kanye is my evidence"
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you are either dumb or just stupid.

The man can barely finish an album.. the fuck kind of impact will he have on an election in 4 months?

What’s his platform?
Who will be his VP?
Where is his campaign HQ’s?
Where’s the Kanye 2020 logo?

This is the link on why he won’t split the Biden vote

https://townsquare.media/site/812/files/2017/02/Kanye-West-blond.jpg?w=980&q=75

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55. "Also what evidence do you have that people who would vote for "
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a particular candidate wouldn't also consider writing in a candidate?

It really sounds like you made that up to fit your argument lmao.

  

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58. "Anyone who would change from Biden to Kanye "
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was never a voter you could count on to begin with.

Oh.. and Tiffany Haddish posted is running for President with Dave Chappelle... Biden has no chance now.

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59. "Ok got it so no actual evidence then. I didn't think so."
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Feelings are good things to have in general but if you are gonna say something like that it has to be backed up by something other than...What you just said.

  

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60. "Lmao.. I forgot who I was talking to, carry on. "
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61. "I don’t even know what that means lmao but have a blessed evening."
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62. "Actually just for the future and for current fun, let's run this back. "
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You make a claim.

I ask for evidence.

You totally have the chance to say "No evidence, I just have a feeling", which is valid.

You don't, you skip over the opportunity to provide links.

I point this out.

Rather than say "You got me!" or "True, no evidence, just a feeling" you just weirdly go with "I forgot who I was talking to", as if that makes up for lack of links to support your opinion.

Classic OKP shit, when someone gets called on the carpet they try to deflect rather than deal with the issue at hand or even consider falling on their sword.

Weak sauce.

  

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65. "You want evidence refuting your Kanye write-in theory? "
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Why the fuck would I entertain that shit.

The nigga ain’t running and no one is changing from Biden to Kanye.

Y’all need to stop this shit.

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66. "It’s super okay for you to admit your point was based on thin air. "
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This is a safe space lmao.

  

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68. "lol"
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69. "Yeah.. your 2Chainz link convinced me. "
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He has a Chance..

Biden should be worried.

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70. "Let's end this now: Here's proof write-in candidates can win elections:"
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http://www.youcanwritein.com/history-write-in-candidates.php

Not the exact situation Kanye would be trying to accomplish but here is ACTUAL EVIDENCE LIKE I ASKED YOU FOR that it is even possible.

Again, not the same situation as Kanye but no one thought before 2016 that a reality TV show star could actually be President so really anything is possible in this current day and age.

See THIS is is how you provide evidence, with a link, not just with snarky wack attempts at comebacks.

Edit: And for the record I for sure don't think Kanye would win a write-in ballot Presidential situation but my point here is that he can cause enough damage to be very problematic in the fight to get Trump the hell on up out of here.

  

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72. "there still time to edit this shit? "
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Kanye can’t disrupt this election. It’s not possible.

He’s not actually running.

and that link is pathetic.

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78. "what have i done here lol"
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write in ballots > your polls apparently.


one thing i'm looking forward to after Nov is folks like that becoming disengaged again with politics. This shit should kinda be boring to these shortcut ass mofos who would rather watch an Oliver clip.


this is how we got every Bernie supporter who is an expert on campaign strategy LOL

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64. "folks thinking that he'll actually do this are scared."
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Ye has turned into a WWE villain that use to be one of the good guys. and we also have a cartoon character currently in office.

most folks didn't expect orange boy to win. it feels like anything is on the table now.


Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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67. "Shit.. I’m scared of voter suppression or lost absentee votes "
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but I’m not scared of Kanye fucking West.

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108. "folks weren't weren't worried about trump either"
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and then what happened? anything goes now.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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73. "I’m supposed to be working on being nice to people "
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Lol

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74. "RE: I’m supposed to be working on being nice to people "
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Saying bullshit like the above is such a weird thing to do.

Niggas act like if you prove them wrong it is gonna be the end of the world LOL.

Instead they hide behind bullshit like what you just said.

Go ahead and prove me wrong, the most I’ll say it “Cool. Good job at proving me wrong.”

But weird attempts for cool points like what you’re doing is hella lame and so wack smh.

  

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76. "you want me to type out how the electoral process works to you?"
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cuz i dont have the energy to do what you're too lazy to


Kanye will have fuckall of an effect in Nov. Fuck. All.


This post will get upped later by someone. And youll be looking like -- well, the way you do.





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52. "yeezy llc received multimillion dollar ppp loan."
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worth $2-$5 mil.

could be something. could be nothing.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/billionaire-kanye-wests-company-yeezy-llc-gets-multimillion-dollar-ppp-loan-from-trump-admin

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63. "oh it's something.. and i'd bet thats just part of it.."
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..i also feel like all parties involved (trump, kanye, kardashians) are all mentally deranged, so there's that too


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79. "hope this buries him "
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it wont tho

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57. "DTS - delete this shit"
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71. "^^^^^^"
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75. "ConYay Mess The Attention Whore Does It Again"
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He just feels the need to be in the spotlight...again, that means he's up to something, he either got a new album dropping, some announcement about his gappy clothing line, or something, him running for prez is just verbal shock value news for him to lead up to some other news.

Why can't we stop paying attention to ConYay, he's just a let down in all cases.


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82. "a bipolar writer broke down what I was saying above"
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https://www.patreon.com/posts/kanye-west-and-39013782

One evening last October, I cussed my grandmother the fuck out. I was talking to her on the phone in the midst of a nasty bipolar manic episode, trying to process a lifetime’s worth of trauma in a psychiatric ward in San Antonio, Texas.

A male orderly working that night approached me as I hung up: “You should never talk to your grandma that way,” he said, intimidatingly. I bucked back, asking, “Why not? You don’t know our relationship. What are you going to do about it?” That’s precisely when he and another orderly hemmed me up and took me to the ward’s quiet room, where mischief-makers are confined until they calm down. As I was being pushed into the room, I grew more aggressive, not comprehending why I was in trouble. Eventually, the men became convinced I needed to be forcefully silenced.

As one worked to pin me down, the other’s arm closed down on my windpipe. I writhed under his viselike grip, frightened and gasping for air. I called out for the nurse, who came sprinting to see what the commotion was about. When she arrived, I was finally released from their hold, but left in the quiet room for the night and several more nights to come.

While in that room, I asked for a pencil and petroleum jelly. I used them to write and outline a phrase in tall letters expanding across the entire wall, a phrase that had become lodged in my self-righteously sanctified brain: “Jesus Is King.”

Within days, Kanye West released his album of the same name, to mixed reviews. The previous month, September 2019, I had watched West play the project for a theater full of enraptured fans in New York City. The album, and Kanye’s shift toward extreme vulnerability and hyperreligiosity, was one that I took special interest in.

Since 2016—the year I was diagnosed as bipolar—my journal entries and iPhone notes have been flooded with exaltations of God, and peppered with mentions of Ye. “I heard Kanye West calling my name,” I wrote in one journal in October 2017, during my second episode. It wasn’t until June 2018 that Kanye would come forward and reveal he was living with the same condition as me. I had long known what the truth was; his mannerisms and unpredictable outbursts reflected my own habits, post-diagnosis. His revelation was validation for me.

So when he announced on July 4 that he was throwing his hat into the ring for the 2020 U.S. presidency, formally or more likely unofficially, I wasn’t the least bit surprised. I, myself, have had a little imaginary character on my shoulder for the past four years, telling me that I should run for president. Me, with no political experience or interest. Me, with a background that I wouldn’t want anyone digging through for adversarial ammo. That character has spoken louder in some instances than others, but it’s been there, in various states of adamancy, since my first encounter with bipolar disorder.

This past October, shortly before I was hospitalized for my most recent episode, I wrote the following:

“We’re running now,” I typed out. “You can be President.” I continued, hyping myself up and making cabinet plans with friends in positions of power. I even went so far as to map out the years: “2024: 1989. I’ll be 35.”

Then, came the kicker: “Kanye ‘2020.’”

I distinctly remember thinking that Kanye was going to run this year, and accepting the fact that I would have to wait until I was eligible to either run against him for his second term, or run against another candidate, if he chose to revert his attention back to music and design.

In a manic episode, it can authentically feel like you’re the new iteration of the person who’s had the most significant impact on humanity: Jesus, Muhammad, Buddha, Superman—whichever representative best aligns with your belief system. Having such a powerful experience, one in which you think you're a sacred or revered figure in history, means that something like a presidency is attainable and completely possible.

Kanye West may very well have experienced delusions of grandeur during mania. That doesn’t necessarily mean he’s delusional now. It may simply mean he’s leaning into the experiences he’s had, and trusting God to complete his journey. (Note: Keep an eye out for his “platform.” It will be heavily focused on religion, spirituality, and saving the world. Kanye is likely running now, opposing his pal Donald J. Trump, because he feels divinely compelled to do so.)

West's unwavering faith doesn't mean he's the right man for the job. But his confidence that he can become the President of the United States of America is completely understandable for someone like me; someone who’s felt at times as if the universe has built itself around me and pushed me into a position where I have an outlet to speak openly about my episodes and subsequent learnings.

If I were Kanye West—a person who believes he has encountered a higher power, a prominent public figure who has been in the spotlight for decades, a Forbes-certified billionaire, a global superstar who can do no wrong in the eyes of hundreds of thousands, if not millions—you can fucking bet I would be running for office right now.

When I tell my older brother, who’s also bipolar, about my feelings on Kanye’s run and the thoughts I’ve had myself, he smirks, then speaks matter-of-factly. “You can do anything you want to do,” he says. “You could be president, too, if you really wanted to be.” It sounds like words of encouragement a teacher or parent would tell a child. But in this context, I know it means something else entirely.

  

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83. "Kanye is over 40 and never has to work a day in his life again"
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I'm not going to blame any mental illness on him, but his treatment of it and people seeing him as a reflection of themselves should cut that shit real quick.

I had all of these same manic disillusion in my late 20s. Probably ended up at the same hospital as that guy. There were six whole months of my life that were completely maniac. But I went to the hospital when I needed, took every med, saw every doctor and I sought help. I got better. I healed. All while working a regular ass job and trying to live my regular ass life. I fought hard for myself and my sanity.

And I know that if I had been a situation where I didn't have to also deal with bills, or where I was going to find my next meal, or how to fill out the insurance paperwork when your brain isn't working, or trying to stay awake on the clock while the pills are made to zonk you out ... or if I could've spent my time in full day therapy sessions instead of daily going out into the real world ... I would've taken those options in a heart beat.


Kanye can't be blamed for manic thoughts or actions. But not dedicating himself fully to treatment when he has the means, resources, and time to is 100% on him.

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84. "Wild how this bi-polar person had the same thoughts as Kanye"
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85. "dude why are you fighting so hard to keep this post alive?"
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87. "RE: dude why are you fighting so hard to keep this post alive?"
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lololol

  

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88. "lol"
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91. "Because Kanye splitting the vote is a hilarious concept"
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92. "the idea of it is hilarious"
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all these people that hate kanye and want him to go away, stop posting about him, dont talk about him. the media wont follow him if folks dont click

hell they pay more attention to kanye than his fans do.

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93. "The what if’s are insane. "
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Kanye hasn’t said a word about it since but people out here begging everyone not to vote for Kanye is just.. lmao.

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89. "He wouldn't be acting like this if Jay didn't distance himself"
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Jay decided that he didn't want to be this weirdo Kanye's daddy anymore so Kanye went and made Trump his new daddy.

  

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94. "kanye west says hes done with trump (interview)"
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(im just copying the title)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/randalllane/2020/07/08/kanye-west-says-hes-done-with-trump-opens-up-about-white-house-bid-damaging-biden-and-everything-in-between

he pretty much answers everything on everyones mind.

i would also say he sounds bipolar. but he sounds exactly like a lot of niggas on twitter/fb/ig/youtube who are not bipolar.

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95. "Gonna run the WH like Wakanda"
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so they gonna have fights by the waterfall to see who runs congress?

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98. "fwiw im starting to think *hes* serious about a presidential run."
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but its *his* version of serious. which is basically a temporary stream of consciousness for everyone else.

so its like an acute intense desire for him. but the nuts and bolts...the technical steps...he needs to work through wont ever happen. like a lot of shit he announces/plans.

i think theres a reason these things always happen when hes working on an album. theres so much mania/activity firing off in his brain at that time. then he rolls the project out and pretty much goes back into mental hibernation.

im prolly sounding like these niggas that give kanye more credit/depth than he deserves right now tho lol.

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96. "Birthday party"
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I can’t. Trying real hard not to hate someone with clear mental issues but it’s hard

  

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97. "YES!!!!"
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Not yeah or yep.

This nigga sampled and chopped up Yes We Can!



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99. "i used to think he does all this stuff for promo."
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the only reason im starting to lean away from that is because he mimics the exact same/typical shit as plenty of other crazy niggas who have no album to release lol.

dude went from alt right (who are also pretty much off trump now) to crypto hotep.

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100. "btw its funny how he just plainly admits to siphoning off black votes"
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from biden.

and you will still have people saying thats not what hes doing.

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112. "Dude just took off the red hat yesterday. Besides 2Chainz and Chance"
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Who the fuck else is going to vote for Kanye that’s Black.. who was previously going to vote for Biden?

He said a lot in that interview.

Enough to make me truly believe none of it.

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115. "do you think that your beliefs are the barometer for what other people d..."
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>Who the fuck else is going to vote for Kanye that’s Black..
>who was previously going to vote for Biden?
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>He said a lot in that interview.
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>Enough to make me truly believe none of it.

Yet, you have this tendency to look at what others may or may not do from the narrow perspective of what you would do, what you believe, how you see something, etc.

Who you are, what you believe, how you see things is 100% irrelevant to what other people think, do, and see.

Surely you understand that.

  

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120. "I’m not a fan of believing my Black people are going to vote for Kanye"
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Buy his albums? Sure

His shoes? Sure

His ugly ass clothes? Definitely.

But there is no part of me that believes a large enough section of Black Biden supporters are going to risk it all to write in Kanye West.

Sorry to upset you but no, I do not for one minute believe my people have marched and protested for last few months just to throw it all away for Kanye.

It’s fucking insulting.

I know people are scared as fuck but nah.. not like this.

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125. "trump got more of the black vote than mccain and romney."
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and thats after running the most blatantly racist campaign in our lifetime.

it was a tiny improvement in the grand scheme of things. but enough to contribute to the impact of small marginal victories in pa, fl, mi, wi, and nc.

if you dont think kanye can sway enough black voters to vote for him or at least sit out the election at the expense of biden...thats on you.

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140. "McCain and Romney went up against Obama"
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Trump went against Hillary.

We’ve already realized that Hillary was a bad choice and had a lot of hate due to being who she is...

Then we see Joe do nothing and hulk smash the Black vote because he is seen as Obama’s VP.

So no.. I don’t for one minute believe the Black vote is going to pivot to Kanye. The only votes he will get is from the woke dudes on YouTube who weren’t voting for. Idea already.

Vex might vote for him too just to spite you.

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128. "Psst: You being a fan doesn't make a thing not exist."
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>But there is no part of me that believes a large enough
>section of Black Biden supporters are going to risk it all to
>write in Kanye West.

Whether you believe something is irrelevant to whether or not it's true.

>Sorry to upset you

LMAO you genuinely can't communicate without shit like this. It's 2020 and you're still doing "u mad" because you genuinely can't have a discussion without relying on logical fallacies or blatant misrepresentations.

Ain't nobody "mad". You just don't know how to have a discussion without generic filler.

>but no, I do not for one minute believe my
>people have marched and protested for last few months just to
>throw it all away for Kanye.
>
>It’s fucking insulting.

Question: Do you think EVERY Black person thinks EXACTLY the way you do about EVERYTHING?

Are you capable of understanding the very basic fact that other people think and do things differently from yourself?

Do you think there are choices that other people have made, even other Black people, that you yourself wouldn't have made?

Or are you REALLY so self centered that you can't wrap your brain around another human being making a choice that didn't first tick the "what would legsdiamond do" box?

  

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133. "He's incapable of having intelligent thoughts. "
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>Question: Do you think EVERY Black person thinks EXACTLY the
>way you do about EVERYTHING?

He will say yes.

>Are you capable of understanding the very basic fact that
>other people think and do things differently from yourself?

He will say no.

>Do you think there are choices that other people have made,
>even other Black people, that you yourself wouldn't have
>made?

Of course he doesn't.

>Or are you REALLY so self centered that you can't wrap your
>brain around another human being making a choice that didn't
>first tick the "what would legsdiamond do" box?

LOL.

Word to all this.

Boggles my mind that he had the nerve to say I am stupid and/or dumb earlier in this post.

  

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141. "anyone who thinks Kanye will hurts Biden’s chances is dumb as fuck"
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143. "Your trying to convince me Black people will follow Kanye for President"
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and I’m the one person who is being self centered for not entertaining it?

The irony is astounding. I know people will vote for Trump who are Black. I know people with write in Kanye who are Black..

But no, I’m not willing to entertain the idea that Biden will lose votes because of Kanye. My theory is those people were never going to vote Biden to begin with.

It’s like blaming Jill Stein for Hilldawgs loss. You can’t assign votes to the person you want to win. Those people didn’t vote for Hilldawg because they didn’t want to.

So yes, I’m incapable of entertaining this dumb ass premise of Kanye’s god raps and pastor VP pulling Black voters from on Biden.

Y’all sound dumb as fuck.

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147. "Except... You don't know any of that."
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>and I’m the one person who is being self centered for not
>entertaining it?

No, you're self centered because you can't grasp the idea that other people think and do things differently from you.

And it's not just this subject. That's literally your approach to every subject, in every discussion, all the time.

>The irony is astounding.

What irony? There is none.

I know people will vote for Trump who
>are Black. I know people with write in Kanye who are Black..

>But no, I’m not willing to entertain the idea that Biden
>will lose votes because of Kanye. My theory is those people
>were never going to vote Biden to begin with.

Your "theory" is just that, a theory. Not in the scientific sense, but the colloquial, fan theory, "they never left the matrix" sense.

You're self centered because, here you are, openly admitting that this is just a pet theory you have, and yet at the same damn time, talking with extreme certainty that anyone who thinks otherwise is dumb as fuck.

>It’s like blaming Jill Stein for Hilldawgs loss. You can’t
>assign votes to the person you want to win. Those people
>didn’t vote for Hilldawg because they didn’t want to.

Except you don't know that. You don't know what people will or won't do, who they will or won't ultimately vote for, and yet you're extra smug and arrogant in your speculation.

THAT shit is what makes you self-centered- because you are literally demonstrating your inability and/or unwillingness to ponder the potential for people to make choices that YOU wouldn't make.

>So yes, I’m incapable of entertaining this dumb ass premise
>of Kanye’s god raps and pastor VP pulling Black voters from
>on Biden.

>Y’all sound dumb as fuck.

Funny, from a guy who consistently has the dumbest takes on every subject, all the time, in every conversation, since the day he fucking signed up. your entire brand is loud, wrong and proud as fuck.

Worse, is that you manage to top that shit off with the extra arrogance of calling people dumb as fuck simply because they don't see it the way you see it.

It's not enough for you to disagree, or point out how/why/where you disagree. You have to take that additional, unnecessary step.

Hate to preempt your go-to crutch bar, but that's not upsetting. It's comical, and a bit sad, considering the consistent display of ego stupidity you put on in every subject. Women, kids, relationships, etc, literally every thought you express on every subject is firmly rooted in two things: your ego, mindless traditionalism.

The list of people dumber, ignorant, and just plain more backward than you on OKP, at least in terms of the content of their discussion and overall tact, is alarmingly short.

  

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122. "yeah legs usually confines himself to the most narrow logic available."
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123. "Nigga hush "
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126. "lol"
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119. "The culprit in this whole thing (besides his mental illness)..."
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Is his homoerotic infatuation with Drake.

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101. "I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines."
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It doesn't seem logistically possible for him to win for that reason alone, but he could still pose a potential problem that results in Trump winning again.

Seems a lot of the same people dismissed Trump. A lot of folks were adamant that Trump had no chance, all the way to the election.

This nonchalant attitude that he's a non-entity in this is about the same as the attitude held by many of those who dismissed Trump.

How anyone still underestimates the power of persona in politics is staggering. Particularly those who speak so directly to the base sensibilities of white racism.

MAGA people love Kanye for the same reasons they love Candice Owens, and Trump himself.

And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win.

He'd play well with the folks whose entire political, philosophical, and scientific (ahem: pseudo) world view is shaped by memes and social media influencers.

Further, people vote third party, even when those third parties don't appear to have a chance in hell.

Ye's not remotely viable to rational people. Question is, are there enough irrational people who may have voted Biden? We've been stuck with a cartoon for three and a half years.

I'm too cynical to believe that there aren't enough irrational people or people who don't take this seriously for him to pose a potential threat.

  

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102. "Word I don't even think about him actually winning, I worry that he "
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will take votes away from Biden, and that's a real legit fear.

Even if he misses all the deadlines in the world he still can use his giant social media platform and that of the Kardashian/Jenner family to have a write-in campaign launched.

Who needs to worry about paying for commercials on TV for exposure when you collectively could reach millions and millions online?

The landscape post-Trump is crazy, because you can't really look at how things used to be done in the past to inform how it would impact this election.

As you said no one ever thought a bankrupt reality TV star could actually be President until it happened and all these "Eh, don't worry Kanye won't actually go through with it" folks are exactly how Trump got in in the first place.

Nothing should be discounted at this point.

  

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104. "He's going to play the God card, and his running mate is a pastor"
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I was initially unconvinced that he'd be able to pull voters from Biden, but then I realized how heavily he's leaning on religious sentiments, and his choice of running mate bolsters that.

It's not a stretch that he can appeal to some Biden voters by playing that so heavily. He's much more sincere in that belief than Trump is. Having an actual pastor as his VP could be enough to galvanize the religious zealots in Trump's base.

His visability, money, the religious platform, etc, is more than enough that he shouldn't be underestimated as a threat to Biden.

  

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106. "That base you described is Trumps base"
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not Biden’s.

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107. "Oh word? You mean, exactly as said in the post you replied to?"
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Great job "correcting" me by simply repeating what I already said.

  

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109. "No.. this part"
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His visability, money, the religious platform, etc, is more than enough that he shouldn't be underestimated as a threat to Biden.

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114. "Moving the goalpost. and cherry picking fallacy, all rolled into one"
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>His visability, money, the religious platform, etc, is more
>than enough that he shouldn't be underestimated as a threat to
>Biden.

You have this amazing, horrifying tendency to ignore everything that doesn't fit into a conclusion you made before your read a word.

Further, despite the cherry picking here, you still didn't point to anything that shows the base I was talking about belonged to Biden, not Trump.

There's a really good reason for that:

It's not there, because I never said it.

  

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117. "You are the one who said he was a threat to Biden"
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because of his religious sentiments and running mate.

Don’t get mad because you said some dumb shit.

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129. "You have terrible reading comprehension."
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Nobody is mad about that.

All the dumb in here- as usual- is yours.

You still can't point to anything I said that justifies your ridiculous replies.

But then, you've established a clear pattern of replying to things based on the way you remixed them in your head, rather than what was actually said.

  

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132. "Happy Birthday Party!! "
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135. "Anything to avoid admitting you were wrong "
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or having a genuine, sincere discussion where you don't bend, twist, or outright lie about what was said to help you run with your own personal narrative.

And you and lurkmode had the audacity to say I was pulling from the MAGA playbook?

  

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137. "Where did I say you were pulling from the MAGA playbook? "
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I just found it funny that you wrote a post listing off Kanye’s “platforms” and saying it could hurt Biden. Why the fuck would anyone who is voting for Biden give a shit about Kanye’s religion and VP who is a pastor?

It’s crazy talk.

Let me be clear, some crazy people will vote for Kanye... it will they pivot from Biden to Kanye due to his Jesus Walk? Fuck No

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144. "Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook"
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and you said that I did the "I didn't say what I just said"

So... yeah. Let's not pretend that didn't happen.

I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic and act like Trump/MAGA don't mean the same thing in context, but let's be real about it.

>I just found it funny that you wrote a post listing off
>Kanye’s “platforms” and saying it could hurt Biden. Why
>the fuck would anyone who is voting for Biden give a shit
>about Kanye’s religion and VP who is a pastor?

>It’s crazy talk.

You are grossly underestimating religious zealots if you think that's crazy talk. You are grossly

>Let me be clear, some crazy people will vote for Kanye... it
>will they pivot from Biden to Kanye due to his Jesus Walk?
>Fuck No

Again... you're just plain underestimating conservative christians, because *you* can't see it, so you don't think *they'd* do it.

You say some crazy people would vote for Ye, but none who would switch from Biden because he'd run a decidedly more Christy campaign.

It doesn't seem like you know just how ridiculous conservative christians can be.

It's funny, because my stance is simply that it's not a stretch to see this happening, while yours is "FUCK NO IT'S NOT". I'm the one with the obejctively more reasonable stance, yet you're in here with the bird chest on the subject, despite not having any real rationale apart from "I can't see it".

You're also conflating two separate kinds of voters, despite the fact that I made the distinction quite clear:

-Voters who may have been leaving Trump, possibly to Biden
-Voters who would have voted Biden

He doesn't have to take traditional voters that Biden already has, to take voters he may have gotten.

If this winds up a close race, he can absolutely make a difference.

Further, you're also reacting to this as though I'm speaking with certainty of probability, as opposed to speculative possibility, and as though I didn't lead with a comment that said that we're largely safe.

So, again, nothing about your reaction logically follows in response to my actual post. Your reaction doesn't even make sense when you cherry picked one statement in a vacccum.

The only way your reaction makes any sense as a reasonable person who actually read and understood my actual post, is you just being your usual, asshole legs, refusing to engage with any sort of nuance or thoughtfulness, just looking for more generic, snarky exchanges instead of an actual sincere discussion.

  

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145. "There is no sincere discussion to be had regarding The Birthday Party"
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You are giving Kanye too much credit.

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146. "I said you would pull from Trumps playbook, not legs"
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>or having a genuine, sincere discussion where you don't bend,
>twist, or outright lie about what was said to help you run
>with your own personal narrative.
>
>And you and lurkmode had the audacity to say I was pulling
>from the MAGA playbook?


Come on

"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win."


^^^^^this is a stretch

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149. "He’s gone full Denny"
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but I’m the one who lacks nuance and can’t have an intelligent discussion..

because he has religion and a pastor from Wyoming as his VP.

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151. "Fuck you. Show me all my Alt Right, White Nationalist posts "
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152. "Denny was the first one to predict Trump could win.. "
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It was viewed as crazy talk.

You are doing the same thing with Kanye.



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156. "Shrug. I thought Trump could win too. You didn't."
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How'd that turn out?

Also, saying I'm "full" Denny is still some bullshit

I see enough crazy, wreckless people out there that I can see them voting for real life cartoon character.

I don't have faith in Ye, just like I didn't have faith in Trump.

I simply have a lack of faith in people, because they've proven a willingness to support these guys.

That doesn't make me anything like that guy.

  

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161. "Early on I didn’t... but it’s well know on here I changed my mind "
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after a gay white dude in Alabama told my wife he was voting for the first time in his life for Trump.

Now if Kanye announced this 2 years ago, was on all the ballots and never had on a MAGA hat and ruled the airwaves after debates... shit, I would think he could pull some votes.

But now? Based on his interview, his past 3 years and his crazy talk. No.. not one part of me believes he will impact this election.

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165. "I remember you changing"
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I'm simply saying, let's not act like you were always on board with the idea that it could be a reality.

Let's also not act like we're suddenly back to everything being politics as usual, with no chance of an outlier having an impact.

  

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154. "Yep he tossed logic and reason out the window"
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Biden's religious base is gonna hand it to Kanye.

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159. "CT is now an atheist.. so his view of Christian voters is pretty low"
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but this theory of his is fucking sad.

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164. "No, having been a former christian, who still knows christians,"
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and sees the shit they say and do, up to and including fawning all over the Ye "Sunday Service" shit, who sees the comments white people make about Ye's views on race, slavery, and Trump, and having scene Trump actually win this fucking thing while people like you laughed it off as preposterous, and seeing where all that shit merges....

Yeah, I can see this as a realistic possibility.

Which, you're likely reading and conflating with "probability", and/or assuming I see the two as being on even footing (spoiler: I don't).

As usual, the truth is nowhere near the simplistic, basic bob version you think it is.

  

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153. "Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook"
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Exactly as legs did.... you "corrected" me by saying what I literally said myself.

Snark, beef, etc, all that's fine and dandy.

But you're so lazy with this shit that you should feel embarrassed.

>"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it
>logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to
>say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden
>and Trump to actually win."

>^^^^^this is a stretch

That, I have no choice but to recant. My stance is that he could pull enough to prevent Biden from winning. So yes, I agree that him winning is a "stretch", though I don't think it's impossible.

  

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157. "smh"
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>Exactly as legs did.... you "corrected" me by saying what I
>literally said myself.
>
>Snark, beef, etc, all that's fine and dandy.
>
>But you're so lazy with this shit that you should feel
>embarrassed.
>

What ?

>>"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it
>>logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch
>to
>>say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both
>Biden
>>and Trump to actually win."
>
>>^^^^^this is a stretch
>
>That, I have no choice but to recant. My stance is that he
>could pull enough to prevent Biden from winning. So yes, I
>agree that him winning is a "stretch", though I don't think
>it's impossible.

You think if Kanye filed on time it's possible he could win enough votes to become President ? Something Perot couldn't do.

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160. "SMH. That all you have to say?"
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>>Exactly as legs did.... you "corrected" me by saying what I
>>literally said myself.
>>
>>Snark, beef, etc, all that's fine and dandy.
>>
>>But you're so lazy with this shit that you should feel
>>embarrassed.
>>
>
>What ?

Tell me where you're struggling so that I can spell out it out for you. I mean, I did cut and paste my own reply that shows that I had said exactly what you had said in your misguided attempt to correct me.

But it seems that you're having serious difficulty accepting that inarguable fact, so I'm happy to help clarify further.

What exactly did you not understand?

>>>"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it
>>>logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch
>>to
>>>say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both
>>Biden
>>>and Trump to actually win."
>>
>>>^^^^^this is a stretch
>>
>>That, I have no choice but to recant. My stance is that he
>>could pull enough to prevent Biden from winning. So yes, I
>>agree that him winning is a "stretch", though I don't think
>>it's impossible.
>
>You think if Kanye filed on time it's possible he could win
>enough votes to become President ? Something Perot couldn't
>do.

How is it you say this, as though Donald Trump isn't are sitting president? As though everyone didn't think that was a joke at worst, that would end with a "nice try!" at best?

How is it that you're acting this incredulous, as though this is without recent precedent?

Talk about throwing logic and reason out the window.

  

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170. "I can say you are not replying to Legs. "
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>>>Exactly as legs did.... you "corrected" me by saying what
>I
>>>literally said myself.
>>>
>>>Snark, beef, etc, all that's fine and dandy.
>>>
>>>But you're so lazy with this shit that you should feel
>>>embarrassed.
>>>
>>
>>What ?
>
>Tell me where you're struggling so that I can spell out it out
>for you. I mean, I did cut and paste my own reply that shows
>that I had said exactly what you had said in your misguided
>attempt to correct me.

I didn't attempt to correct you.

>But it seems that you're having serious difficulty accepting
>that inarguable fact, so I'm happy to help clarify further.
>
>What exactly did you not understand?
>

Where did I attempt to correct you ?

>>>>"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it
>>>>logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch
>>>to
>>>>say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both
>>>Biden
>>>>and Trump to actually win."
>>>
>>>>^^^^^this is a stretch
>>>
>>>That, I have no choice but to recant. My stance is that he
>>>could pull enough to prevent Biden from winning. So yes, I
>>>agree that him winning is a "stretch", though I don't think
>>>it's impossible.
>>
>>You think if Kanye filed on time it's possible he could win
>>enough votes to become President ? Something Perot couldn't
>>do.
>
>How is it you say this, as though Donald Trump isn't are
>sitting president? As though everyone didn't think that was a
>joke at worst, that would end with a "nice try!" at best?
>

That talking point is getting worn out. Yes Trump won and nobody thought he would but it does not mean anything and everything will happen forever. Trump ran against a bad candidate, after a Black President was leaving office, with a push from the media helping Trump. He had a perfect storm.

>How is it that you're acting this incredulous, as though this
>is without recent precedent?
>
>Talk about throwing logic and reason out the window.

It's not reason or logic to suggest Kanye could win by taking votes from Trump and Biden, when Perot got 19 percent of the popular vote and 0 electoral votes, no matter what you think of Trumps win.

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176. "I can say you're not replying to Spiderman."
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It would make just as much sense, considering I know who I'm replying to, and I presume the same for you.

>I didn't attempt to correct you.

"I said you would pull from Trumps playbook, not legs"

That's a cut and paste from your own post.

In response... I cut and pasted my own post, made before yours, which said the exact same thing.

It's not a debate, or an opinion. You're demonstrably wrong. Can you just accept that you were wrong? Or is that really too hard for you?

>That talking point is getting worn out.

It's worn because it's valid, and should be a really loud fire alarm to everyone- particularly now.

>Yes Trump won and
>nobody thought he would but it does not mean anything and
>everything will happen forever.

Do you think that's a stance I hold?
Because it isn't.

>Trump ran against a bad
>candidate,

Not nearly bad enough for Trump to win. Hillary being a "bad candidate" is at the bottom of the list of reasons why he won.

>after a Black President was leaving office,

>with a
>push from the media helping Trump.

This is a non-point. "the media"- particularly conservative media- would have given any republican candidate a "push". Trump's profile was different, but by and large the reasons people voted for him had little to do with Hillary, and everything to do with his name value, and him catering to the basic bigotry of republicans.

>>How is it that you're acting this incredulous, as though
>this
>>is without recent precedent?
>>
>>Talk about throwing logic and reason out the window.

>It's not reason or logic to suggest Kanye could win by taking
>votes from Trump and Biden, when Perot got 19 percent of the
>popular vote and 0 electoral votes, no matter what you think
>of Trumps win.

Note how your response completely ignored my point about recent precedent?

But then... That's a hypothetical. I'm making the case that it's possible, not probable. Surely you grasp the difference.

What's logical and reasonable, is looking at the recent and current political landscape and the current voter pool to speculate on whether or not something is "possible".

Note as well, I haven't argued probability at all.

What isn't logical or reasonable is looking to a nearly 30 year old election, in a different climate, with different voters, and decidedly different candidates and pretending that it's a relevant sample to this situation.

  

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177. "It sound like you don't know who you are replying to"
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>
>In response... I cut and pasted my own post, made before
>yours, which said the exact same thing.

This is not the same thing

CT "And you and lurkmode had the audacity to say I was pulling from the MAGA playbook?"

as

CT ""Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook"
In response to Reply # 137
and you said that I did the "I didn't say what I just said"

that's why you added

"I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic..."

>It's not a debate, or an opinion. You're demonstrably wrong.
>Can you just accept that you were wrong? Or is that really too
>hard for you?
>

You can't say "let's be real" when you have to add a disclaimer at the end.


>It's worn because it's valid, and should be a really loud fire
>alarm to everyone- particularly now.
>

No that talking point is worn out because it's used too much. Trump won don't criticize Biden, Trump won don't breath too hard, Trump won don't dismiss some bat shit crazy theory about Kanye wining a three way race since Trump won that one time.

>>Yes Trump won and
>>nobody thought he would but it does not mean anything and
>>everything will happen forever.
>
>Do you think that's a stance I hold?
>Because it isn't.
>

You just said absent the filing issues that seem to make it logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to say that Kanye could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win.

That is a stretch and it fits right in with that stance since Trump won when everyone thought he couldn't, everything is always on the table. Trump won so Kanye can pull MAGA Christians.


>
>Not nearly bad enough for Trump to win. Hillary being a "bad
>candidate" is at the bottom of the list of reasons why he
>won.
>

Hillary lost white women. They helped Trump get in after the grab em tape. It's like Obama losing to David Duke because a large percentage of Black voters pull the lever for Duke. That doesn't go to the bottom of the list of reasons why Trump won.

>>after a Black President was leaving office,
>
>>with a
>>push from the media helping Trump.
>
>This is a non-point. "the media"- particularly conservative
>media- would have given any republican candidate a "push".
>Trump's profile was different, but by and large the reasons
>people voted for him had little to do with Hillary, and
>everything to do with his name value, and him catering to the
>basic bigotry of republicans.
>

SMH CNN and MSNBC is not conservative media and no other candidate got wall to wall coverage. Yes the racism helped him but that doesn't mean Hillary was not a bad candidate and he didn't get help from the media.

>>>How is it that you're acting this incredulous, as though
>>this
>>>is without recent precedent?
>>>
>>>Talk about throwing logic and reason out the window.
>

It's one win, even if he gets a second term, that's still not enough to turn into chicken little, scared and worried about Kanye.


>
>Note how your response completely ignored my point about
>recent precedent?
>

You clipped it so I have no idea what you are talking about but if your point about recent precedent is Trump winning, then let me address it again. Trump won so be worried and scared is not a point.

>But then... That's a hypothetical. I'm making the case that
>it's possible, not probable. Surely you grasp the difference.
>

I grasp the weak cop-out you are using to save face after you made that ridiculous statement about Kanye wining.

>What's logical and reasonable, is looking at the recent and
>current political landscape and the current voter pool to
>speculate on whether or not something is "possible".
>

You are taking one election where Trump won and arguing based off that. Do you have any idea how that sounds ? You are using that to make assumptions, given everything that happen. You really believe Kanye could pull christian MAGA's away from Trump in a race that Trump was a choice they could make. Did you read what you wrote ?

>Note as well, I haven't argued probability at all.
>
>What isn't logical or reasonable is looking to a nearly 30
>year old election, in a different climate, with different
>voters, and decidedly different candidates and pretending that
>it's a relevant sample to this situation.

It is ridiculous, pathetic, sad and desperate to write

"I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines"

when discussing Kanye's Presidential walk. Have you read that interview ?


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>>In response... I cut and pasted my own post, made before
>>yours, which said the exact same thing.
>
>This is not the same thing

>CT "And you and lurkmode had the audacity to say I was pulling
>from the MAGA playbook?"

Psst: You said, in post 124:

"He took a page out of Trump's playbook using the don't read my words back to me rule. lmao"

legs replied, in post 131, with:

"Muhfukkas like “I didn’t say what I just said”

He echoed your comment. So yes- you both said that I was pulling from the Trump playbook.

>CT ""Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook"
>In response to Reply # 137
>and you said that I did the "I didn't say what I just said"
>
>that's why you added
>
>"I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic..."

There's a reason you only partially quoted me. But here it is:

"I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic and act like Trump/MAGA don't mean the same thing in context, but let's be real about it."

The "disclaimer" isn't for me. It's for legs, because he has a sordid tendency of cherry picking and playing (or maybe not playing, it's always hard to tell with him) dumb as a fall back when he's wrong.

Apparently, you have the same issue.

Trump and MAGA are the same. They go hand in hand. The "Trump playbook" and "MAGA playbook" are the same thing. It's a semantic equivalent of the their/they're error, and yet people have a tendency toward trying to grandstand over it, despite the meaning being clear.

Because it's easier to have a discussion about such red herrings, than the subject at hand.

>>It's worn because it's valid, and should be a really loud
>fire alarm to everyone- particularly now.

>No that talking point is worn out because it's used too much.

Yes, that's what "worn" means.

***Pause for your to google the definition of "worn"***

we both know that was you're first instinct, though you won't cop to it.

And it's worn (used too much ) because... it's valid.

>Trump won don't criticize Biden, Trump won don't breath too
>hard, Trump won don't dismiss some bat shit crazy theory about
>Kanye wining a three way race since Trump won that one time.

Theory? There's a theory about Kanye winning a three way race?

>>Do you think that's a stance I hold?
>>Because it isn't.

>That is a stretch and it fits right in with that stance since
>Trump won when everyone thought he couldn't everything is
>always on the table.

... no. You're trying to make the case that I think that because Trump won and nobody thought he would, that it means mean anything and everything will happen forever.

I haven't said a single thing that so much as infers that. But again- in your head, I've argued the probability, not the possibility as I've actually argued. Either that you don't see a difference between the two, in which case, you're wrong.

>Trump won so Kanye can pull MAGA
>Christians.

No. You and legs, when you disagree with someone, you tend to see everything that person says as some simplistic, unnuanced, binary thought. Do you intentionally talk past people, instead of trying to understand where they're coming from, or is that just innate?

Trump won, showing that there are plenty of voters out there who will absolutely vote for dumb and crazy, as long as the messaging is right.

Many conservative Christians worship Trump, but they are not a monolith, and could be conceivably pulled by a charismatic voice like Ye, who presents a much more sincere and deep-rooted faith.

That base has shown a propensity toward completely ignoring the parts that don't fit, while elevating the parts that do.

In fact.... that ability is the whole reason they believe that bullshit to begin with. But I digress.

>>Not nearly bad enough for Trump to win. Hillary being a "bad
>>candidate" is at the bottom of the list of reasons why he
>>won.

>Hillary lost white women.

No, Trump TOOK them, because he played to their bigotry and entitlement. Trump played to their fears of socialism, brown-skinned immigrants, and erosion of white people's place at the top of America's food chain. And they valued that over electing the first woman.

That election was 100% about the cult of Trump's personality and ability to play to the dregs- ahem: deplorables- of society.

>SMH CNN and MSNBC is not conservative media and no other
>candidate got wall to wall coverage.

Wall to wall negative coverage.

>Yes the racism helped him
>but that doesn't mean Hillary was not a bad candidate and he
>didn't get help from the media.

You're overstating both of these in a bad way. Again: Trump made these people comfortable with their racism, xenophobia, homophobia, transphobia, etc. He normalized their hatred, and was able to generate a passionate base with it.

You know what else he played to, quite well?

People's base laziness and stupidity. He's extremely rich and extremely famous, and a LOT of people thought that- and that alone- made him fit to run our economy.

Because, again, he marketed directly to their worse, baser sensibilities. He turned everything into a catch phrase.

Lock Her Up! Fake News! MAGA! Build The Wall!

You remember that old white lady that said Obama was a terrorist, and McCain corrected her?

Not only did Trump NOT correct those people, HE IS those people.

He IS the antivax flat Earth conspiracy theorist, who thinks the blogs and YouTube videos he consumes at 2 am trumps decades of collective study and expertise.

He fucking normalized Alex Jones, of all people.

He became the patron saint of those people, because he IS those people.

So yeah, you're grossly elevating the role of the media and Hillary being a bad candidate as factors for his win. He won because he appealed to enough of those motherfuckers in the right places on the electoral board to eek out a win.

>It's one win, even if he gets a second term, that's still not
>enough to turn into chicken little, scared and worried about
>Kanye.

Except it's not about "one win".
Because it's not about Trump.
It's about the mentality of the type of people who voted for him.

>Trump won so be worried and
>scared is not a point.

Except that's not the point I've made. You're so invested in talking past me that you're not paying attention.

>>But then... That's a hypothetical. I'm making the case that
>>it's possible, not probable. Surely you grasp the
>difference.

>I grasp the weak cop-out you are using to save face after you
>made that ridiculous statement about Kanye wining.

No, that's you exercising willful ignorance. Your position in here plays better if you pretend I'm arguing probability, as opposed to possibility.

>You are taking one election where Trump won and arguing based
>off that.

No, I'm looking at the motherfuckers who voted for him, and the way they those votes were able to be won, and from that see a scenario where another batshit-yet-charismatic celebrity could conceivably do the same thing.

You keep twisting that into me thinking that Trump's win means this is the new status quo, as opposed to something I don't think we should so readily dismiss.

>Do you have any idea how that sounds ? You are using
>that to make assumptions, given everything that happen.

What assumptions have I made?

I've been pretty clear that this is hypothetical, and I merely see the possibility. But, yet again, you're doggedly trying to attack an imagined argument for probability.

You
>really believe Kanye could pull christian MAGA's away from
>Trump in a race that Trump was a choice they could make. Did
>you read what you wrote ?

How many do you think I think he could realistically pull?

Moreover, do you think there's a difference between what i think he could realistically pull, right now, and what I think is hypothetically possible?

Or do you still think there's no distinction there?

>It is ridiculous, pathetic, sad and desperate to write
>
>"I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines"
>when discussing Kanye's Presidential walk. Have you read that
>interview?

Desperate? Desperate for... what? What am I desperate for here?

I did read that interview.

Have you spoken to conservative Christians? Do you know the things they believe, and how easy it is to play to those sensibilities?

Have you read comments sections of articles and videos?

Do you think those people are just names and words on a screen, unattached to an actual person with actual voting rights, and are all just written for lulz and don't ever reflect the things the actually think?

But then... none of that matters, because you don't see a distinction between "yeah I can see this happening, and don't dismiss the possibility" and "YEAH OMG THIS IS DEFINITELY A THREAT RIGHT TODAY THE SKY IS FALLING".

  

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215. "I have no problem hearing, but you do have a problem with genuine, sinc..."
In response to Reply # 180


  

          

sincere discussion where you don't bend, twist, or outright lie about what was said to help you run with your own personal narrative.


>
>Psst: You said, in post 124:
>
>"He took a page out of Trump's playbook using the don't read
>my words back to me rule. lmao"
>
>legs replied, in post 131, with:
>
>"Muhfukkas like “I didn’t say what I just said”
>
>He echoed your comment. So yes- you both said that I was
>pulling from the Trump playbook.
>

What is the post number where Legs used the words "MAGA playbook" ?

>>CT ""Lurkmode said I pulled from the Trump playbook"
>>In response to Reply # 137
>>and you said that I did the "I didn't say what I just said"
>>
>>that's why you added
>>
>>"I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic..."
>
>There's a reason you only partially quoted me. But here it
>is:
>

Alert the chief of pre-crime

>"I mean, I suppose you could be extra pedantic and act like
>Trump/MAGA don't mean the same thing in context, but let's be
>real about it."
>
>The "disclaimer" isn't for me. It's for legs, because he has a
>sordid tendency of cherry picking and playing (or maybe not
>playing, it's always hard to tell with him) dumb as a fall
>back when he's wrong.
>

So you are the message board version of the pre-crime pre-cog from the movie minority report. You make accusations about something that is going to happen before it happens.

>Apparently, you have the same issue.
>

Nah making assumptions and jumping to conclusions is your issue and that's what you did.


>
>Because it's easier to have a discussion about such red
>herrings, than the subject at hand.
>

It's not a discussion about red herrings. This is a discussion about you misleading. Post the reply number where Legs said "MAGA playbook" to you.

>>>It's worn because it's valid, and should be a really loud
>>fire alarm to everyone- particularly now.
>
>>No that talking point is worn out because it's used too
>much.
>
>Yes, that's what "worn" means.

>***Pause for your to google the definition of "worn"***
>
>we both know that was you're first instinct, though you won't
>cop to it.
>

Quick alert Chief of pre-crime

>And it's worn (used too much ) because... it's valid.
>
>
>Theory? There's a theory about Kanye winning a three way
>race?
>

Yes the possibility theory by Dr Pre-cog that says Kanye can unite conservative Christian bigots with Democratic christians and win President of the U.S in 2020. It's only a possibility but we should not dismiss it given the missed deadlines was the only thing that kept us safe.


>
>... no. You're trying to make the case that I think that
>because Trump won and nobody thought he would, that it means
>mean anything and everything will happen forever.
>

So what is the recent precedent that I skipped over ?

>I haven't said a single thing that so much as infers that. But
>again- in your head, I've argued the probability, not the
>possibility as I've actually argued. Either that you don't see
>a difference between the two, in which case, you're wrong.
>

So the recent precedent is not Trump becoming President when everyone thought he was a joke ?

>>Trump won so Kanye can pull MAGA
>>Christians.
>
>No. You and legs, when you disagree with someone, you tend to
>see everything that person says as some simplistic, unnuanced,
>binary thought. Do you intentionally talk past people, instead
>of trying to understand where they're coming from, or is that
>just innate?
>

You waste words talking about the person who is posting, which is odd for someone who cried about a "red herring" discussion.

>Trump won, showing that there are plenty of voters out there
>who will absolutely vote for dumb and crazy, as long as the
>messaging is right.
>

Nothing new about voters who vote for dumb and crazy.

>Many conservative Christians worship Trump, but they are not a
>monolith, and could be conceivably pulled by a charismatic
>voice like Ye, who presents a much more sincere and
>deep-rooted faith.
>

This is where silly becomes insane and you drive to left field and off the deep end. Conservative Christians who worship Trump are not going to vote for Ye when Trump is running against him. They are not going to vote for Kanye even if Trump is not in the race. Kanye stans are not and will never be conservative Christians who worship Trump.

>That base has shown a propensity toward completely ignoring
>the parts that don't fit, while elevating the parts that do.
>

Yes they have but they are not going to ignore Kanye saying Trump hid in a bunker or anything else Kanye says that goes against what they pretend to be,(christian) it works for Trump but it does not extend to Kanye.

>In fact.... that ability is the whole reason they believe that
>bullshit to begin with. But I digress.
>

That goes out the window when it's a Blackman no matter how much he uses the "God card"


>
>>Hillary lost white women.
>
>No, Trump TOOK them, because he played to their bigotry and
>entitlement. Trump played to their fears of socialism,
>brown-skinned immigrants, and erosion of white people's place
>at the top of America's food chain. And they valued that over
>electing the first woman.
>

Hillary was hated and had a lot of baggage. They wanted to vote against her.

>That election was 100% about the cult of Trump's personality
>and ability to play to the dregs- ahem: deplorables- of
>society.
>

Nah it was about a blacklash because Obama won, Hillary was a bad candidate, media helping him.

>>SMH CNN and MSNBC is not conservative media and no other
>>candidate got wall to wall coverage.
>
>Wall to wall negative coverage.
>

It's positive coverage to the racists who he wanted hyped up enough to vote.

>>Yes the racism helped him
>>but that doesn't mean Hillary was not a bad candidate and he
>>didn't get help from the media.
>
>You're overstating both of these in a bad way. Again: Trump
>made these people comfortable with their racism, xenophobia,
>homophobia, transphobia, etc. He normalized their hatred, and
>was able to generate a passionate base with it.
>

You giving too much credit to Trump and the people who voted for him. They are not uncomfortable with their racism, xenophobia and homophobia. The base is already there and voting Republican. The hatred was already there.

>You know what else he played to, quite well?
>
>People's base laziness and stupidity. He's extremely rich and
>extremely famous, and a LOT of people thought that- and that
>alone- made him fit to run our economy.
>

You're stating the obvious and giving too much credit to people who voted for Trump. Lazy and stupid people don't care if can run the economy.

>Because, again, he marketed directly to their worse, baser
>sensibilities. He turned everything into a catch phrase.
>
>Lock Her Up! Fake News! MAGA! Build The Wall!
>

That's sop for Republican candidates.

>You remember that old white lady that said Obama was a
>terrorist, and McCain corrected her?
>

Which proves they are not uncomfortable with racism.

>Not only did Trump NOT correct those people, HE IS those
>people.
>

Yes he is, but he's not uncomfortable with racism and they are not.

>He IS the antivax flat Earth conspiracy theorist, who thinks
>the blogs and YouTube videos he consumes at 2 am trumps
>decades of collective study and expertise.
>
>He fucking normalized Alex Jones, of all people.
>
>He became the patron saint of those people, because he IS
>those people.
>

He always has been. It didn't start when he came down the escalator. He was on Fox doing the birther racism.

>So yeah, you're grossly elevating the role of the media and
>Hillary being a bad candidate as factors for his win. He won
>because he appealed to enough of those motherfuckers in the
>right places on the electoral board to eek out a win.
>

Nah you are giving too much credit to the voters and Trump. They have been putting Republicans in office for years. You don't have to normalize something that is already normal. Nobody is uncomfortable with racism when they are already voting for racists.


>
>Except it's not about "one win".
>Because it's not about Trump.
>It's about the mentality of the type of people who voted for
>him.
>

Same people who they were already.

>>Trump won so be worried and
>>scared is not a point.
>
>Except that's not the point I've made. You're so invested in
>talking past me that you're not paying attention.
>

You are not saying anything.


>
>No, that's you exercising willful ignorance. Your position in
>here plays better if you pretend I'm arguing probability, as
>opposed to possibility.
>

More of the same from you. Escape pod to save your weak argument.


>
>No, I'm looking at the motherfuckers who voted for him, and
>the way they those votes were able to be won, and from that
>see a scenario where another batshit-yet-charismatic celebrity
>could conceivably do the same thing.
>

Yeah that does not work. You can apply that to another white batshit yet charismatic celebrity but not a Blackman. Obama had to bend over backwards and appear as non-threatening as possible to get the white votes he got. Trump's act is not going to work for a Black man running for President.

>You keep twisting that into me thinking that Trump's win means
>this is the new status quo, as opposed to something I don't
>think we should so readily dismiss.
>

You are talking about it's safe and Kanye had a possibility when it should be dismissed.


>
>I've been pretty clear that this is hypothetical, and I merely
>see the possibility. But, yet again, you're doggedly trying to
>attack an imagined argument for probability.
>

Kanye winning is the assumption even if you call it a possibility, you are suggesting that he would get enough electoral votes to become President.

>You
>>really believe Kanye could pull christian MAGA's away from
>>Trump in a race that Trump was a choice they could make. Did
>>you read what you wrote ?
>
>How many do you think I think he could realistically pull?
>

You answer a question with a question. Ok did you say this

"it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win."

>Moreover, do you think there's a difference between what i
>think he could realistically pull, right now, and what I think
>is hypothetically possible?
>

and it continues more of the escape pod/lifeboat to save the sinking argument. We are safe from a hypothetical possibility because of deadlines ?

>Or do you still think there's no distinction there?
>
>>It is ridiculous, pathetic, sad and desperate to write
>>
>>"I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines"
>>when discussing Kanye's Presidential walk. Have you read
>that
>>interview?
>
>Desperate? Desperate for... what? What am I desperate for
>here?
>

Desperate to hold on to the stance Kanye, founder of the Birthday party should not be dismissed.

>I did read that interview.
>
>Have you spoken to conservative Christians? Do you know the
>things they believe, and how easy it is to play to those
>sensibilities?
>

You are giving them way too much credit.

>Have you read comments sections of articles and videos?
>

Is that a reliable source ?

>Do you think those people are just names and words on a
>screen, unattached to an actual person with actual voting
>rights, and are all just written for lulz and don't ever
>reflect the things the actually think?
>

So you believe what they tell you and what they write even when it's obvious they are full of shit. If they say they are Christian and they vote for Trump and support Trump you swallow that ?

>But then... none of that matters, because you don't see a
>distinction between "yeah I can see this happening, and don't
>dismiss the possibility" and "YEAH OMG THIS IS DEFINITELY A
>THREAT RIGHT TODAY THE SKY IS FALLING".

This all makes sense, you are buying into the lies and excuses. That's why you think it's a possibility Kanye could pull conservative Christians who worship Trump. You believe Trump has charisma and that's what convinced people to vote for him. You are falling for the lies and going along with it.

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>It's not a discussion about red herrings. This is a discussion
>about you misleading. Post the reply number where Legs said
>"MAGA playbook" to you.

Everything above this was addressed, and addressed within the posts to which you yourself replied.

Everything below this, to the next point I'll address, is you having a childish meltdown. It's amusing, but you're either too obtuse to understand anytime soon, or just plain too dug in to turn back.

>You waste words talking about the person who is posting, which
>is odd for someone who cried about a "red herring" discussion.

False. I addressed your tact, and the way this discussion has played out with that tact.

>This is where silly becomes insane and you drive to left field
>and off the deep end. Conservative Christians who worship
>Trump are not going to vote for Ye when Trump is running
>against him. They are not going to vote for Kanye even if
>Trump is not in the race. Kanye stans are not and will never
>be conservative Christians who worship Trump.

Cool. I disagree.

>>That base has shown a propensity toward completely ignoring
>>the parts that don't fit, while elevating the parts that do.
>
>Yes they have but they are not going to ignore Kanye saying
>Trump hid in a bunker or anything else Kanye says that goes
>against what they pretend to be,(christian) it works for Trump
>but it does not extend to Kanye.
>>In fact.... that ability is the whole reason they believe
>that
>>bullshit to begin with. But I digress.

>That goes out the window when it's a Blackman no matter how
>much he uses the "God card"

Not when he's a black man who echoes their own views on race.

But then... neither of us know how that would actually play out. I think you're grossly underestimating that element.

But then, you're speaking with extreme certainty. Cool. I'm speculating.

>>>Hillary lost white women.
>>
>>No, Trump TOOK them, because he played to their bigotry and
>>entitlement. Trump played to their fears of socialism,
>>brown-skinned immigrants, and erosion of white people's
>place
>>at the top of America's food chain. And they valued that
>over
>>electing the first woman.
>>
>
>Hillary was hated and had a lot of baggage. They wanted to
>vote against her
>>That election was 100% about the cult of Trump's personality
>>and ability to play to the dregs- ahem: deplorables- of
>>society.
>>
>
>Nah it was about a blacklash because Obama won

Funny, that reads like it fits right in with what I said. Thanks for the incorrection.

>Hillary was a bad candidate

That's where I have to retract one thing, my "100%" comment. Because Hillary did have baggage. Just not enough baggage to overtake hatred of brown people, homosexuals, a women's right to choose, religious freedom, etc as the lion's share of the reasons Trump won.

If that election were a pie chart for what people would do with the money if they won the lottery, "bad candidate" would be the "give it to charity" slice.

>>>SMH CNN and MSNBC is not conservative media and no other
>>>candidate got wall to wall coverage.
>>
>>Wall to wall negative coverage.

>It's positive coverage to the racists who he wanted hyped up
>enough to vote.

LMAO like the vast majority weren't glued to Fox before and during the election.

I'm genuinely open to hard data showing that CNN/MSNBC coverage actually converted people who weren't already on his side of the fence.

>>>Yes the racism helped him
>>>but that doesn't mean Hillary was not a bad candidate

I didn't say Hillary was not a bad candidate, so chalk up another incorrection on your end.

>You giving too much credit to Trump and the people who voted
>for him. They are not uncomfortable with their racism,
>xenophobia and homophobia. The base is already there and
>voting Republican. The hatred was already there.

Sounds a lot like what I've said on the subject, apart from the "too much" part. He played well to the things that were already there, which was particularly important to winning women voters from Hillary.

>>You know what else he played to, quite well?
>>
>>People's base laziness and stupidity. He's extremely rich
>and
>>extremely famous, and a LOT of people thought that- and that
>>alone- made him fit to run our economy.
>>
>
>You're stating the obvious and giving too much credit to
>people who voted for Trump.

Not obvious enough, apparently. We simply disagree on the ratios.

>Lazy and stupid people don't care
>if can run the economy.

Sure they do. They just don't care enough to educate themselves on the subject. You don't think stupid or lazy people care if they have money, or the ability to get money?

Further, I'm speaking from an intellectual standpoint, which is clear based the example I gave.

>>Because, again, he marketed directly to their worse, baser
>>sensibilities. He turned everything into a catch phrase.
>>
>>Lock Her Up! Fake News! MAGA! Build The Wall!
>>
>
>That's sop for Republican candidates.

You're looking at what he did.
I'm looking at how well he did it.

That's a distinction with a difference. Politics is marketing. How well he hit those critical points, is the difference. By that logic, any and every repub would have won.

>>You remember that old white lady that said Obama was a
>>terrorist, and McCain corrected her?
>>
>
>Which proves they are not uncomfortable with racism.

>>Not only did Trump NOT correct those people, HE IS those
>>people.
>>
>
>Yes he is, but he's not uncomfortable with racism and they are
>not.

You're implying that that comfort level, of being this publicly, visibly, overt and brazen, didn't increase significantly during and after his campaign.

I don't think that's the case. I think he galvanized them. I think they became significantly more emboldened. MAGA hats may as well be gang attire. It IS gang attire.

>>He IS the antivax flat Earth conspiracy theorist, who thinks
>>the blogs and YouTube videos he consumes at 2 am trumps
>>decades of collective study and expertise.
>>
>>He fucking normalized Alex Jones, of all people.
>>
>>He became the patron saint of those people, because he IS
>>those people.

>He always has been. It didn't start when he came down the
>escalator. He was on Fox doing the birther racism.

I don't think I said that that's when it started. Or inferred it.

It's funny, you keep arguing stances I haven't taken, instead of the stances I have taken. There's a reason for that.

>Nah you are giving too much credit to the voters and Trump.
>They have been putting Republicans in office for years. You
>don't have to normalize something that is already normal.
>Nobody is uncomfortable with racism when they are already
>voting for racists.



>>Except it's not about "one win".
>>Because it's not about Trump.
>>It's about the mentality of the type of people who voted for
>>him.

>Same people who they were already.

Yep. And if that were the case, and there were no fire to stoke with them, McCain would have won, or at least Romney.

But they didn't, because it's not as simple as you're trying to make it. Because Trump made them more comfortable being more overt and open. If it were as simple as you're trying to frame it, Obama never would have won.


>More of the same from you. Escape pod to save your weak
>argument.

Nope. Sorry. I've pointed out several places where you've argued against stances I never took, and this is no different. It's not an "escape pod" for me. It's just me pointing out that you're grossly overstating and misrepresenting my stance.

Which is what you need to do in order to make your fervent, uh, counter not look more ridiculous than you think Ye's chances are.

>Yeah that does not work. You can apply that to another white
>batshit yet charismatic celebrity but not a Blackman. Obama
>had to bend over backwards and appear as non-threatening as
>possible to get the white votes he got.

Do you think I think he's likely to get the white votes Obama got?

Trump's act is not
>going to work for a Black man running for President.

I didn't say Trump's act. In fact, I've been clear in that, despite certain basic similarities, I think he'd take a different tact.

>You are talking about it's safe

Huh?

>and Kanye had a possibility
>when it should be dismissed.

I don't think it should be dismissed. You do.

We disagree. Oh no. But you really, really, really, really, really need to hammer home just how much you disagree. I'm nowhere near as passionate in my belief that he *could* *possibly*- not definite or probably, which are different things - as you are that there's no chance in hell.

>>I've been pretty clear that this is hypothetical, and I
>merely
>>see the possibility. But, yet again, you're doggedly trying
>to
>>attack an imagined argument for probability.
>>
>
>Kanye winning is the assumption even if you call it a
>possibility,

No, those are definitively two different things. This is another example of your consistent need to reframe my stance in order to make your zealous takedown not look like way, way too much, over far too little.

>you are suggesting that he would get enough
>electoral votes to become President.

Would?

How many times are you going to so blatantly rephrase my words? It's embarrassing. But again, it's easier to argue this down from a position I haven't taken, as opposed to the position I have.

>>You
>>>really believe Kanye could pull christian MAGA's away from
>>>Trump in a race that Trump was a choice they could make.
>Did
>>>you read what you wrote ?
>>
>>How many do you think I think he could realistically pull?
>>
>
>You answer a question with a question. Ok did you say this
>
>"it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling
>enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win."

try the entirety of the comment for a change:

"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win.

He'd play well with the folks whose entire political, philosophical, and scientific (ahem: pseudo) world view is shaped by memes and social media influencers.

Further, people vote third party, even when those third parties don't appear to have a chance in hell.

Ye's not remotely viable to rational people. Question is, are there enough irrational people who may have voted Biden? We've been stuck with a cartoon for three and a half years.

I'm too cynical to believe that there aren't enough irrational people or people who don't take this seriously for him to pose a potential threat."

>>Moreover, do you think there's a difference between what i
>>think he could realistically pull, right now, and what I
>think
>>is hypothetically possible?

>and it continues more of the escape pod/lifeboat to save the
>sinking argument. We are safe from a hypothetical possibility
>because of deadlines ?

No. Deadlines make

>>Or do you still think there's no distinction there?
>>
>>>It is ridiculous, pathetic, sad and desperate to write
>>>
>>>"I think we're safe, due to the number of missed deadlines"
>>>when discussing Kanye's Presidential walk. Have you read
>>that
>>>interview?
>>
>>Desperate? Desperate for... what? What am I desperate for
>>here?
>>
>
>Desperate to hold on to the stance Kanye, founder of the
>Birthday party should not be dismissed.

LMAO, Yes, I'm desperate to hold on to the stance that he should not be dismissed. As though I haven't been consistent in this being about the types of people that could vote, and why, and definitively not promoting him as a candidate anyone should vote for.

>>I did read that interview.
>>
>>Have you spoken to conservative Christians? Do you know the
>>things they believe, and how easy it is to play to those
>>sensibilities?

>You are giving them way too much credit.

Credit? I may be overestimating whether or not they could be swayed by Ye. I told Reeq I may well be wrong about all of this. Going back to your "desperate" remark, it's downright hilarious that you think I'm "desperate" to hold on to a stance that I've literally said I could be wrong about, quite early in the post.

>>Have you read comments sections of articles and videos?
>>
>Is that a reliable source ?

Of the mindset of people that are out there?

Yes

>>Do you think those people are just names and words on a
>>screen, unattached to an actual person with actual voting
>>rights, and are all just written for lulz and don't ever
>>reflect the things the actually think?
>>
>
>So you believe what they tell you and what they write even
>when it's obvious they are full of shit. If they say they are
>Christian and they vote for Trump and support Trump you
>swallow that ?

OH SHIT LMAO here we go.

"believe what they write when it's obvious they are full of shit"

Could you be any more vague?

Generally speaking, I take people at their word when they say they support trump and worship fictional characters, or say racist, homophobic, and misogynist things.

Sure, I operate under the assumption that there are trolls and agitators that exist. But generally, they seem to come *from* the right, in attempts to vilify everyone and anyone who isn't the right.

I don't see nearly as much going the other way, which is the way I'm reading your statement. If that's not what you're getting at, let me know.

>>But then... none of that matters, because you don't see a
>>distinction between "yeah I can see this happening, and
>don't
>>dismiss the possibility" and "YEAH OMG THIS IS DEFINITELY A
>>THREAT RIGHT TODAY THE SKY IS FALLING".
>
>This all makes sense, you are buying into the lies and
>excuses. That's why you think it's a possibility Kanye could
>pull conservative Christians who worship Trump. You believe
>Trump has charisma and that's what convinced people to vote
>for him. You are falling for the lies and going along with it.

LMAO you sound EXACTLY like a motherfucking Trump supporter.

First, that's a complete non-reply to what I said.

Just a generic assed

"You are buying into the Lies and fake news of The Media!"

Also, I didn't say "people voted for Trump because he has charisma", and I in fact pointed out plenty of reasons- reasons which you agreed with. So no, I don't think it's just as simple as charisma.

  

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227. "Nah you projecting"
In response to Reply # 225
Fri Jul-10-20 09:44 PM by Lurkmode

  

          

>Everything above this was addressed, and addressed within the
>posts to which you yourself replied.
>

You can't post Legs using the words MAGA playbook because he didn't and it was misleading when you put that in the original comment, that I replied too.

>Everything below this, to the next point I'll address, is you
>having a childish meltdown. It's amusing, but you're either
>too obtuse to understand anytime soon, or just plain too dug
>in to turn back.
>

Nah you are projecting, deflecting and dodging. You know that your Kanye "possibility" is pathetic, so you retreat to a rabbit hole of distraction. Trump playbook part 2.

>>You waste words talking about the person who is posting,
>which
>>is odd for someone who cried about a "red herring"
>discussion.
>
>False. I addressed your tact, and the way this discussion has
>played out with that tact.
>

That does not excuse your discussion commentary play by play waste of time. The topic is Kanye not what someone is doing while discussing the topic.

>>This is where silly becomes insane and you drive to left
>field
>>and off the deep end. Conservative Christians who worship
>>Trump are not going to vote for Ye when Trump is running
>>against him. They are not going to vote for Kanye even if
>>Trump is not in the race. Kanye stans are not and will never
>>be conservative Christians who worship Trump.
>
>Cool. I disagree.
>

Yes you do but it doesn't help this comment you made.

"Many conservative Christians worship Trump, but they are not a monolith, and could be conceivably pulled by a charismatic voice like Ye, who presents a much more sincere and deep-rooted faith." smh


>>That goes out the window when it's a Blackman no matter how
>>much he uses the "God card"
>
>Not when he's a black man who echoes their own views on race.
>

Right because pastor Darrell Scott would be threat to Trump if he got in the race. No echoing their views on race is not enough.


>But then... neither of us know how that would actually play
>out. I think you're grossly underestimating that element.
>

I'm basing it on history. One of the most segregated places in the U.S. is church on Sunday. Parroting christian talking points is not going to change anything when it comes to Trump's racist christian voters.

>But then, you're speaking with extreme certainty. Cool. I'm
>speculating.
>

I don't even know if I would call what you are doing speculating. Bizarre maybe.


>>>
>>
>>Nah it was about a blacklash because Obama won
>
>Funny, that reads like it fits right in with what I said.
>Thanks for the incorrection.
>

You said Trump made them comfortable and normalize Alex Jones. I said they were already comfortable. What you said does not fit in with they are already comfortable. Trump didn't have to do anything to get them mad about Obama.

>>Hillary was a bad candidate
>
>That's where I have to retract one thing, my "100%" comment.
>Because Hillary did have baggage. Just not enough baggage to
>overtake hatred of brown people, homosexuals, a women's right
>to choose, religious freedom, etc as the lion's share of the
>reasons Trump won.
>

Nah instead of a retraction with an excuses attached, just admit you was wrong.


>If that election were a pie chart for what people would do
>with the money if they won the lottery, "bad candidate" would
>be the "give it to charity" slice.
>

Never can admit when you got it wrong. Always an addon.


>
>>It's positive coverage to the racists who he wanted hyped up
>>enough to vote.
>
>LMAO like the vast majority weren't glued to Fox before and
>during the election.
>

Not the blue wall.

>I'm genuinely open to hard data showing that CNN/MSNBC
>coverage actually converted people who weren't already on his
>side of the fence.
>

He didn't have to convert people just get those who make up the blue wall hyped to vote.

>>>>Yes the racism helped him
>>>>but that doesn't mean Hillary was not a bad candidate
>
>I didn't say Hillary was not a bad candidate, so chalk up
>another incorrection on your end.
>

You said it was at the bottom of a list on reasons why Trump won and used a pie chart in this reply. You are downplaying it as if a bad candidate with baggage is insignificant. You even said "That election was 100% about the cult of Trump's personality and ability to play to the dregs- ahem: deplorables- of society." before you retracted it.

>>You giving too much credit to Trump and the people who voted
>>for him. They are not uncomfortable with their racism,
>>xenophobia and homophobia. The base is already there and
>>voting Republican. The hatred was already there.
>
>Sounds a lot like what I've said on the subject, apart from
>the "too much" part. He played well to the things that were
>already there, which was particularly important to winning
>women voters from Hillary.
>

lol no if these "things" are already there then Trump does not have to make them "comfortable or normalize anything. I will use your example. When the lady said Obama is a Muslim to McCain, that is not a white women uncomfortable with being a racist in public.

>>>You know what else he played to, quite well?
>>>
>>>People's base laziness and stupidity. He's extremely rich
>>and
>>>extremely famous, and a LOT of people thought that- and
>that
>>>alone- made him fit to run our economy.
>>>
>>
>>You're stating the obvious and giving too much credit to
>>people who voted for Trump.
>
>Not obvious enough, apparently. We simply disagree on the
>ratios.
>

No it's not just the ratios, you believe it's possible conservative Christians would vote for Kanye and that's based on what you are saying, Trump made them comfortable, Trump normalize Alexa Jones, as if conservative Christians were something else before Trump.

>>Lazy and stupid people don't care
>>if can run the economy.
>
>Sure they do. They just don't care enough to educate
>themselves on the subject. You don't think stupid or lazy
>people care if they have money, or the ability to get money?
>

They are lazy and stupid plus racist, they are not thinking is Trump fit to run the economy.

>Further, I'm speaking from an intellectual standpoint, which
>is clear based the example I gave.
>
>>>Because, again, he marketed directly to their worse, baser
>>>sensibilities. He turned everything into a catch phrase.
>>>
>>>Lock Her Up! Fake News! MAGA! Build The Wall!
>>>
>>
>>That's sop for Republican candidates.
>
>You're looking at what he did.
>I'm looking at how well he did it.
>

He didn't have to do it well because his base is ok with awful, which means he could do anything. He had no bar. You are looking at something that doesn't exist and giving him credit.

>That's a distinction with a difference. Politics is marketing.
>How well he hit those critical points, is the difference. By
>that logic, any and every repub would have won.
>

The only reason Repubs don't win is because of places where it's enough people to counter the stupid lazy racist voter.

>>>You remember that old white lady that said Obama was a
>>>terrorist, and McCain corrected her?
>>>
>>
>>Which proves they are not uncomfortable with racism.
>
>>>Not only did Trump NOT correct those people, HE IS those
>>>people.
>>>
>>
>>Yes he is, but he's not uncomfortable with racism and they
>are
>>not.
>
>You're implying that that comfort level, of being this
>publicly, visibly, overt and brazen, didn't increase
>significantly during and after his campaign.
>

Did you sleep during Obama's 8 years ? Birtherism, Tea party ring a bell ?

>I don't think that's the case. I think he galvanized them. I
>think they became significantly more emboldened. MAGA hats may
>as well be gang attire. It IS gang attire.
>
>>>He IS the antivax flat Earth conspiracy theorist, who
>thinks
>>>the blogs and YouTube videos he consumes at 2 am trumps
>>>decades of collective study and expertise.
>>>
>>>He fucking normalized Alex Jones, of all people.
>>>
>>>He became the patron saint of those people, because he IS
>>>those people.
>
>>He always has been. It didn't start when he came down the
>>escalator. He was on Fox doing the birther racism.
>
>I don't think I said that that's when it started. Or inferred
>it.
>
>It's funny, you keep arguing stances I haven't taken, instead
>of the stances I have taken. There's a reason for that.
>

Oh so Trump has always been a charismatic celebrity who makes republican voters comfortable with their racism and normalized Alexa Jones even before he ran for President.

Nah, you are avoiding questions and going on rants, crying about the length of the quote I use, while you waste time doing discussion play by play and cutting off my words.


>>Nah you are giving too much credit to the voters and Trump.
>>They have been putting Republicans in office for years. You
>>don't have to normalize something that is already normal.
>>Nobody is uncomfortable with racism when they are already
>>voting for racists.
>
>
>
>>>Except it's not about "one win".
>>>Because it's not about Trump.
>>>It's about the mentality of the type of people who voted
>for
>>>him.
>
>>Same people who they were already.
>
>Yep. And if that were the case, and there were no fire to
>stoke with them, McCain would have won, or at least Romney.
>

They wouldn't win against Obama.

>But they didn't, because it's not as simple as you're trying
>to make it. Because Trump made them more comfortable being
>more overt and open. If it were as simple as you're trying to
>frame it, Obama never would have won.
>


Smh Obama had a bigger turnout from the base which made up the Obama coalition,so they outnumbered the the voters you keep giving too much credit.


>
>Nope. Sorry. I've pointed out several places where you've
>argued against stances I never took, and this is no different.
>It's not an "escape pod" for me. It's just me pointing out
>that you're grossly overstating and misrepresenting my stance.
>

No you keep going to your crutches to prop up an awful take. You are blaming me. When you had to recant and retract.

>Which is what you need to do in order to make your fervent,
>uh, counter not look more ridiculous than you think Ye's
>chances are.
>

This is more discussion commentary play by play. Unnecessary and a waste of time. You prove my point over and over.

>>Yeah that does not work. You can apply that to another white
>>batshit yet charismatic celebrity but not a Blackman. Obama
>>had to bend over backwards and appear as non-threatening as
>>possible to get the white votes he got.
>
>Do you think I think he's likely to get the white votes Obama
>got?
>

Kanye would need those votes if he ran.

>Trump's act is not
>>going to work for a Black man running for President.
>
>I didn't say Trump's act. In fact, I've been clear in that,
>despite certain basic similarities, I think he'd take a
>different tact.
>

Whatever you think that different tact is it would not work.

>>You are talking about it's safe
>
>Huh?

Another example, you split the quote and then ask huh, when you were whining about a paragraph that I didn't add when I quoted you previously.

Talking about it's safe means the comment you made where you said the deadlines past so it's safe.

>>and Kanye had a possibility
>>when it should be dismissed.
>
>I don't think it should be dismissed. You do.
>

Yes I just said that. smh

>We disagree. Oh no. But you really, really, really, really,
>really need to hammer home just how much you disagree. I'm
>nowhere near as passionate in my belief that he *could*
>*possibly*- not definite or probably, which are different
>things - as you are that there's no chance in hell.
>

You wanna talk about hammer home ? How many times have you beat the dead horse "possibility" vs "probability" ? I'm not passionate about it, I am laughing because I think it's obvious Kanye would lose.

>>>I've been pretty clear that this is hypothetical, and I
>>merely
>>>see the possibility. But, yet again, you're doggedly trying
>>to
>>>attack an imagined argument for probability.
>>>
>>
>>Kanye winning is the assumption even if you call it a
>>possibility,
>
>No, those are definitively two different things. This is
>another example of your consistent need to reframe my stance
>in order to make your zealous takedown not look like way, way
>too much, over far too little.
>

Back to the discussion play by play commentary.

>>you are suggesting that he would get enough
>>electoral votes to become President.
>
>Would?
>

Is it another way to win ?

>How many times are you going to so blatantly rephrase my
>words? It's embarrassing. But again, it's easier to argue this
>down from a position I haven't taken, as opposed to the
>position I have.
>

Discussion play by play commentary with no end in sight. Your position is to run and hide. Have you answered all the questions I asked ? Are you addressing all of issues I raise ?

>>>You
>>>>really believe Kanye could pull christian MAGA's away from
>>>>Trump in a race that Trump was a choice they could make.
>>Did
>>>>you read what you wrote ?
>>>
>>>How many do you think I think he could realistically pull?
>>>
>>
>>You answer a question with a question. Ok did you say this
>>
>>"it's not a stretch to say that he could wind up pulling
>>enough votes from both Biden and Trump to actually win."
>
>try the entirety of the comment for a change:
>

Practice what you preach

>"And, absent the filing issues that seem to make it
>logistically impossible for him to win, it's not a stretch to
>say that he could wind up pulling enough votes from both Biden
>and Trump to actually win.
>
>He'd play well with the folks whose entire political,
>philosophical, and scientific (ahem: pseudo) world view is
>shaped by memes and social media influencers.
>
>Further, people vote third party, even when those third
>parties don't appear to have a chance in hell.
>
>Ye's not remotely viable to rational people. Question is, are
>there enough irrational people who may have voted Biden? We've
>been stuck with a cartoon for three and a half years.
>
>I'm too cynical to believe that there aren't enough irrational
>people or people who don't take this seriously for him to pose
>a potential threat."
>

You should thank me for leaving all of that out off. What you included makes it worse. Kanye could win with a coalition of people who would vote for Biden, Trump, people whose entire political,
philosophical, and scientific world view is
shaped by memes and social media influencers, people who vote third party, and irrational people. Did I leave anybody out ? lmao

>>Moreover, do you think there's a difference between what i
>>>think he could realistically pull, right now, and what I
>>think
>>>is hypothetically possible?
>
>>and it continues more of the escape pod/lifeboat to save the
>>sinking argument. We are safe from a hypothetical
>possibility
>>because of deadlines ?
>
>No. Deadlines make
>

Deadlines make us safe from a hypothetical
possibility ? Yeah right

>>>Or do you still think there's no distinction there?
>>>
>>>>It is ridiculous, pathetic, sad and desperate to write
>>>>
>>>>"I think we're safe, due to the number of missed
>deadlines"
>>>>when discussing Kanye's Presidential walk. Have you read
>>>that
>>>>interview?
>>>
>>>Desperate? Desperate for... what? What am I desperate for
>>>here?
>>>
>>
>>Desperate to hold on to the stance Kanye, founder of the
>>Birthday party should not be dismissed.
>
>LMAO, Yes, I'm desperate to hold on to the stance that he
>should not be dismissed. As though I haven't been consistent
>in this being about the types of people that could vote, and
>why, and definitively not promoting him as a candidate anyone
>should vote for.
>
>>>I did read that interview.
>>>
>>>Have you spoken to conservative Christians? Do you know the
>>>things they believe, and how easy it is to play to those
>>>sensibilities?
>
>>You are giving them way too much credit.
>
>Credit? I may be overestimating whether or not they could be
>swayed by Ye. I told Reeq I may well be wrong about all of
>this. Going back to your "desperate" remark, it's downright
>hilarious that you think I'm "desperate" to hold on to a
>stance that I've literally said I could be wrong about, quite
>early in the post.
>

If you told Reeq you could be wrong, you wouldn't be in here retracting and recanting. It wouldn't go that far.

>>>Have you read comments sections of articles and videos?
>>>
>>Is that a reliable source ?
>
>Of the mindset of people that are out there?
>
>Yes
>>>Do you think those people are just names and words on a
>>>screen, unattached to an actual person with actual voting
>>>rights, and are all just written for lulz and don't ever
>>>reflect the things the actually think?
>>>
>>
>>So you believe what they tell you and what they write even
>>when it's obvious they are full of shit. If they say they
>are
>>Christian and they vote for Trump and support Trump you
>>swallow that ?
>
>OH SHIT LMAO here we go.
>
>"believe what they write when it's obvious they are full of
>shit"
>
>Could you be any more vague?
>
>Generally speaking, I take people at their word when they say
>they support trump and worship fictional characters, or say
>racist, homophobic, and misogynist things.
>
>Sure, I operate under the assumption that there are trolls and
>agitators that exist. But generally, they seem to come *from*
>the right, in attempts to vilify everyone and anyone who isn't
>the right.
>
>I don't see nearly as much going the other way, which is the
>way I'm reading your statement. If that's not what you're
>getting at, let me know.
>

I'm not talking about trolls or agitators, I am talking about the people in the comment section of articles and videos that you mentioned. The ones who say they are Christian and defend or excuse Trump.

>>>But then... none of that matters, because you don't see a
>>>distinction between "yeah I can see this happening, and
>>don't
>>>dismiss the possibility" and "YEAH OMG THIS IS DEFINITELY A
>>>THREAT RIGHT TODAY THE SKY IS FALLING".
>>
>>This all makes sense, you are buying into the lies and
>>excuses. That's why you think it's a possibility Kanye could
>>pull conservative Christians who worship Trump. You believe
>>Trump has charisma and that's what convinced people to vote
>>for him. You are falling for the lies and going along with
>it.
>
>LMAO you sound EXACTLY like a motherfucking Trump supporter.
>
>First, that's a complete non-reply to what I said.
>
>Just a generic assed
>
>"You are buying into the Lies and fake news of The Media!"
>
>Also, I didn't say "people voted for Trump because he has
>charisma", and I in fact pointed out plenty of reasons-
>reasons which you agreed with. So no, I don't think it's just
>as simple as charisma.

You just said

"I take people at their word when they say
they support trump and worship fictional characters"

does that mean Christians who support Trump ? If it does those are the lies I am talking about, they can't say they are a Christian and support Trump. You believe them.

Yes you never said this

"No, I'm looking at the motherfuckers who voted for him, and the way they those votes were able to be won, and from that see a scenario where another batshit-yet-charismatic celebrity could conceivably do the same thing."

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105. "MAGA people don't love Kanye and Candance Owens"
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>MAGA people love Kanye for the same reasons they love Candice
>Owens, and Trump himself.

MAGA people love that he's black (and famous) and unabashedly loves Trump. They're not voting for Kanye over Trump.

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110. "This depends on context and definitions of the word "love""
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>>MAGA people love Kanye for the same reasons they love
>Candice
>>Owens, and Trump himself.

>MAGA people love that he's black (and famous) and unabashedly
>loves Trump.

...and says things like slavery was a choice.

As it stands. I don't think they "love" him the person, anymore than they "love" Trump. They love his politics and persona. Which is what they're voting for

>They're not voting for Kanye over Trump.

He plays up the conservative Christian angle in a much more sincere, zealous way, and has a Pastor as his running mate.

He can absolutely pull voters from Trump with that.

  

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103. "lol"
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Biden better do something fast before Kanye sinks him. This thread is almost has bad as the one where people were defending millionaires getting ppp loans.

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111. "for the political heads"
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i know its being reported he already missed deadlines. im 99% sure he will "drop out" after these 30 days he mentioned.

BUT if the conventions dont happen until august then neither party has an actual nominee on the ticket yet right? or if something were to happen to either trump or biden the party can replace them with whomever they want....right?

kanye could replace trump as the republican candidate...right?

someone tell me im wrong.

  

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113. "For the love of all things sane.. no, fuck no, fuuuuuck no. "
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116. "lmao"
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What ?

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118. "These people are serious.. "
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and then some of them have the nerve to get mad when you read their shit back to them.



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124. "They set up camp in bizzaro world"
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>and then some of them have the nerve to get mad when you read
>their shit back to them.
>
>

He took a page out of Trump's playbook using the don't read my words back to me rule. lmao

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131. "Muhfukkas like “I didn’t say what I just said” "
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Ok.. anyone in here talking about Biden losing votes to Kanye getting joked.. lol.

He ain’t even running for President. He said he’s walking because it’s a Birthday Party.



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"lmao"


  

          

>Ok.. anyone in here talking about Biden losing votes to Kanye
>getting joked.. lol.
>
>He ain’t even running for President. He said he’s walking
>because it’s a Birthday Party.
>
>
>

They about make me read his interview. He talking about a Birthday Party and they scared.

It's going to be doomsday around here if Kanye has another album to put out in Oct or Nov

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163. "RE: lmao"
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>They about make me read his interview. He talking about a
>Birthday Party and they scared.
>

its truly bizarre. it reads like something from the onion or a bad snl skit.

the most likely scenario is this is all a publicity stunt, promo for an album. if thats the case we should really stop feeding it.

i truly hope a week from now no one is talking about kanye.

  

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166. "Look up his VP... Michelle Tidball "
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It’s obvious dude just threw out the name of his “Biblical Life Coach”

It’s hilarious and sad to see people on here taking this seriously.

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134. "Demonstrably false."
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I pointed out that his "correction" was literally exactly what I had already said.

He then moved the goalpost, and presented a single part that was not only out of context with the totality of the post, but still didn't say what he thought I said.

  

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121. "he would need state delegates to vote him in as the nominee"
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at the convention.

but repubs aint abandoning trump. especially for kanye.

and even if trump dropped out...they damn sure aint making kanye the nominee.

they only like him for what he did/does for them/trump. they aint (politically) dumb enough to waste votes on him (to their credit).

kanye appealing to maga voters only makes sense among the same online bubble crowd that thought a joe rogan endorsement was gonna alter the trajectory of the democratic primary.

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130. "Everything up to that last line is on point."
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>at the convention.
>
>but repubs aint abandoning trump. especially for kanye.
>
>and even if trump dropped out...they damn sure aint making
>kanye the nominee.
>
>they only like him for what he did/does for them/trump. they
>aint (politically) dumb enough to waste votes on him (to their
>credit).

All of this.

>kanye appealing to maga voters only makes sense among the same
>online bubble crowd that thought a joe rogan endorsement was
>gonna alter the trajectory of the democratic primary.

An endorsement vs being an actual candidate are two different things.
Kanye has a far stronger tool with the religious angle.

  

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136. "in 2018 in the midst of kanyes trump fan boying"
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republicans still had an unfavorable view of him overall.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcQaC3oXYAABono?format=jpg&name=large

that hasnt improved much and wont. the religious stuff isnt even really a factor. when they ask repub primary voters their most important trait in a candidate...its like 80% 'loyalty to trump'. and thats why any republicans even like kanye at all.

most of his political support (as an entity separate from trump) on the right wouldnt come from the rank and file republican faithful. its mostly from the younger red pill, anti pc, anti cancel culture crowd. the same crowd that now loves elon musk. and thats not a really big crowd.

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142. "He will get his fans and some young kids who wouldn’t particpate"
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if he wasn’t an option

CT thinking his religious angle will poach voters is hilarious.

I know we are in some dark times but come the fuck on..

What’s going on in here.. lol.

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150. "I may well be wrong on this."
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But two things:

-We saw Trump WIN this motherfucker.

So that is now a valid barometer for crazy shit that can actually happen.

So to see Ye getting a fair amount of traction as a third party isn't a stretch, for that reason alone.

-I think you're grossly underestimating the religious element, and the way that shit appeals to those people.

My overall speculation is simply that Ye could get enough that it helps keep Trump in office. Not that he will, or is even likely, just that the possibility is enough to take seriously.

Also, I do not know enough about what states he can actually run in, given the time frames.

  

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155. "What Dem Christian is going to vote Kanye after his MAGA stunt? "
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It’s not happening.

What conservative religious age group is like “that Kanye got God in his side so I’m no longer voting for Biden?”

Even if Kanye got 15K votes in a state and Trump won by less than 15K. How do you come to the conclusion Kanye impacted the results?

Those 15K aren’t Biden voters. They are either trolls or young as Kanye fans.



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158. "Again, you see people as monolithic instead of tribal"
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To answer your question of, how do I know who those extra voters would be, in a hypothetical?

I don't. And neither do you.

Further, I haven't claimed to "know".

I simply see the possibility.

  

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162. "I know when someone votes third party or writes in"
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people love to give those votes to the loser.

That’s not how it works.

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127. "*cackling* ye really got ppl shook out here."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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139. "I don't know who's dumber, Kanye or the people who he makes nervous"
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167. "In any conversation about "who is dumber", with your name in it"
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The correct answer, historically, as been you.

You know, like when you asked if TI knows he's a loser.

Or when you said Kawhi Leonard- All Star, Finals MVP, NBA Champion was bitchmade because he trusted his body and his trainers and doctors over the team.

You're habitually, chronically stupid.

  

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178. "Yet, this all matters so much more to you than it does me "
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And anyway, I admitted I was way wrong on Kawhi and even said sorry.

Flattered you still think of me though 😘

  

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179. "funny, it matters to you when your trying to fit in"
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Funny how it suddenly doesn't matter when it's you 😉

>And anyway, I admitted I was way wrong on Kawhi and even said
>sorry.

Same with TI, if memory serves. That doesn't change the fact that you created both of those extra loud, extra wrong posts.

You said you were wrong to save face in post that became a crystal clear L.

>Flattered you still think of me though 😘

Oh, you and your "I'm rubber, you're glue!" Type retorts. You say I "think of you", as though I brought you up out of thin air, and you didn't run in on some, "hey guys, yeah, me too! They'reall super dumb amiright? I cosign allthatshit!! Hey, is that seat empty? can I sit here?"

You came in trying to fit in. I don't think about you at all. You're just consistently, memorably stupid about everything, at all times, on every subject, in a place we both happen to frequent.

  

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184. "do you sit at the drama kids table in the cafeteria? the jock table? "
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jesus, "fit in". YUCK

  

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187. "However you imagine that scenario, lmao"
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It's hysterical that you imagined the table to be a sitcom style high school clique table, instead of just, you know, a table. A table at a barbecue, party, etc.

It really underscores my point that your brain went straight to high school. Seems I touched a nerve there.

You good?

>jesus, "fit in". YUCK

Yep, it's transparent. As corny as you sound saying "YUCK" with all caps, that's how you should feel about it.

  

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169. "READ BOOKS"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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193. "due to a recent reply in here i take this all back"
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please replace it with LOL and close the thread.

  

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138. "FFS he's running on the "Birthday Party.""
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How is anybody taking any of this seriously?

He's mentally ill. The people around him are enabling him by not working to make sure that he receives the helps he needs.

Media outlets like Forbes.com are enabling him by treating him like he's Ross Perot.

Assuming that this whole thing isn't scrapped in the immediate future, he'll have a fraction of an impact that Sarah Palin as a VP candidate had on McCain's campaign.

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148. "Man is on the spectrum *Larry David voice*"
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IG @erichrigonan

  

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168. "There's a difference between the candidate, and the voter."
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It's about the voters, and whether people would actually vote for him, not whether he's credible.

It's also about the fact that there's recent precedent for a continual lowering of the bar.

Case in point?

Sarah Palin.

8 years later, we get Donald Trump.

This is nowhere near as crazy as people want it to be.

To dismiss this is, IMO, an erroneously optimistic view of American voters.

  

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172. "Palin was in politics at the time"
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Dumb as a rock but actually ran for office and won in her state.

Kanye just gave the dumbest interview ever when discussing his platform and people are giving him a legit chance because of Trump.

If Kanye ran like Trump after he shitted on W during Katrina and kept that pressure on him then sure.. I could see Kanye having a chance as a Dem or independent of he put together a serious crew and had a slogan, etc... plus he still made good music at the time.

But after going crazy, MAGA hat, getting called an asshole by Obama and saying slavery was a choice... and having terrible albums.

I don’t see how anyone can think voters would flock to him. Fans.. definitely. Voters? Definitely not.

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175. "Hence... "continual lowering of the bar". "
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>Dumb as a rock but actually ran for office and won in her
>state.
>
>Kanye just gave the dumbest interview ever when discussing his
>platform and people are giving him a legit chance because of
>Trump.

Dumbest ever? Did that stop people from flocking to Palin? Because that shit's absolutely comparable.

and again... continual lowering of the bar.

>If Kanye ran like Trump after he shitted on W during Katrina
>and kept that pressure on him then sure.. I could see Kanye
>having a chance as a Dem or independent of he put together a
>serious crew and had a slogan, etc... plus he still made good
>music at the time.
>
>But after going crazy, MAGA hat, getting called an asshole by
>Obama and saying slavery was a choice... and having terrible
>albums.

>I don’t see how anyone can think voters would flock to him.
>Fans.. definitely. Voters? Definitely not.

What do you mean by "flock"?

Are you still arguing against the probability (an argument I'm not making), and not the possibility (the argument I am making)? Because that's how it reads.

  

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185. "Arguing against the probability and the possibility.. "
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pick a word, any word and I’m arguing against it.

Again, the idea that his religious sentiments and VP choice playing well with the religious crowd is unrealistic.

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188. "Passionately. Fervently. With zeal and dedication"
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>pick a word, any word and I’m arguing against it.

Yes, I can see that.

  

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legsdiamond
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Thu Jul-09-20 10:09 AM

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189. "True indeed.. especially when his fam puts it out there a day later"
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Dude is off... I wonder if he goes off his meds to finish projects or if this is truly how he operates.

I’ve always believed it was calculated due to the timing with recent project releases.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cold Truth
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191. "Yes, you do seem to enjoy discussing people's mental illness"
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It's well established.

  

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legsdiamond
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195. "Well, if someone has mental health issues it shouldn’t be ignored"
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when having these types of discussions.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Cold Truth
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199. "Except you discuss it derisively, and use it as a weapon"
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You "diagnose" people, and you use it as a means of insult.

It's well established.

  

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legsdiamond
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203. "Ehh.. if you sound crazy I’m gonna say it. "
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TBH the fact