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hip bopper
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"BLM???"


          

https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/continuing-coverage/nakia-crawford/watch-live-family-of-slain-18-year-old-nakia-crawford-to-hold-a-news-conference-monday

So this story I am sure that some of you have heard about comes out of Akron, OH. Na’kia Crawford who was gunned down in broad daylight on June 14.

Originally it was thought to be a white man who committed the crime. So you know that fake ass movement and their attorney were ready to come out in full force. Now that the murderer is black, there’s no sign of the movement and the attorney has backed of because it’s not a “hate crime”.

He can’t help out because a white man didn’t commit the murder? So there isn’t any racism to sell and niggas aren’t buying??

In a time where this sorry ass movement should take a stand it is NOW!!!!!! A young lady who just graduated from high school two weeks ago is shot over a mistaken identity and then it’s blamed on a white. Niggas don’t seem to be outraged enough. Oh we shouldn’t be up in arms over blacks killing blacks... that have never mattered. For the 17 year old who did this, and the two that were obstructing justice, I pray that they never see the light of day again. This is just sickening.

  

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We doing "But what about black on black crime?" again? ok.
Jun 23rd 2020
1
A crime is a crime last time I checked...
Jun 23rd 2020
24
What do you think the attorney would advocate for in this case?
Jun 23rd 2020
2
A senseless crime
Jun 23rd 2020
25
Do you live in Cleveland?
Jun 23rd 2020
3
RE: Do you live in Cleveland?
Jun 23rd 2020
26
W O W.
Jun 23rd 2020
4
I think they spend TOO MUCH time around Black people and not enough
Jun 23rd 2020
5
Not sure which answer is right but I know these types
Jun 23rd 2020
8
Yup. It's as if they don't actually know any people outside of their ra...
Jun 23rd 2020
14
I can't stand this shit.....
Jun 23rd 2020
12
I’m convinced that people speak on others that know nothing about them
Jun 23rd 2020
27
What role do you think an attorney plays in these situations?
Jun 23rd 2020
6
High profile lawyers take high profile cases
Jun 23rd 2020
7
Yeah there's that. But also Crump has no role here
Jun 23rd 2020
10
High profile civil rights attorneys?
Jun 23rd 2020
15
      Is Crump a civil rights attorney?
Jun 23rd 2020
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           RE: Is Crump a civil rights attorney?
Jun 23rd 2020
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                Thanks
Jun 23rd 2020
21
So because it wasn’t a white who perpetrated the crime...
Jun 23rd 2020
28
i believe you meant to post here:
Jun 23rd 2020
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lol
Jun 23rd 2020
11
well played. LOL
Jun 23rd 2020
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FOH
Jun 23rd 2020
13
go read a fucking book.
Jun 23rd 2020
18
Not like this.
Jun 23rd 2020
19
Both issues can be addressed
Jun 23rd 2020
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concern trolling
Jun 23rd 2020
23

Mafamaticks
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1. "We doing "But what about black on black crime?" again? ok."
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The piece of shit attorney aside, there's a huge difference between criminals and the police officers that are put in place to protect and serve by the government.

  

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hip bopper
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Tue Jun-23-20 10:52 AM

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24. "A crime is a crime last time I checked..."
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>The piece of shit attorney aside, there's a huge difference
>between criminals and the police officers that are put in
>place to protect and serve by the government.
>
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and it’s the senseless loss of a young black lady. Not enough for BLM and those that support them to show up in mass protests. What about the streets who protect those who commit crimes against those who look like them? Wrong is wrong no matter how you slice it.

  

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CIPHA
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2. "What do you think the attorney would advocate for in this case?"
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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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hip bopper
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25. "A senseless crime"
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Whoever the shooter was trying to get must’ve had enough hatred in their heart to gun someone down... innocent at that.

  

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MEAT
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3. "Do you live in Cleveland?"
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hip bopper
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26. "RE: Do you live in Cleveland?"
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No I don’t... what does it matter where I stay? An injustice has happened to a young girl that just graduated high school over a mistaken identity.

Secondly this wasn’t in Cleveland, it happened in Akron. Two different cities.

  

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Marbles
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4. "W O W."
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> Niggas don’t seem to be outraged enough.
> Oh we shouldn’t be up in arms over blacks killing blacks...

^^^ I'm convinced that people who make this argument have never spent any time around black people and/or black institutions (churches, schools, non-profits, youth programs, etc).

  

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MEAT
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5. "I think they spend TOO MUCH time around Black people and not enough"
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Around other people. Because they're always spitting this insular shit.
We don't take care of our own like the Jews
We don't support our own businesses like the Asians
We don't hand down things like the Whites
We don't instill lessons like the Africans
and on and on
It's the lowest of low self esteem mixed with the grass is greener elsewhere mentality.

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legsdiamond
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8. "Not sure which answer is right but I know these types"
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and they always twist any convo about racial issues into “we as Black people have no one to blame but ourselves”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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MEAT
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14. "Yup. It's as if they don't actually know any people outside of their ra..."
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Except maybe at a work capacity. And EVERYONE lies at work.

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WarriorPoet415
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12. "I can't stand this shit....."
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>We don't take care of our own like the Jews
>We don't support our own businesses like the Asians
>We don't hand down things like the Whites
>We don't instill lessons like the Africans
>and on and on
>It's the lowest of low self esteem mixed with the grass is
>greener elsewhere mentality.
>

The minute I hear it, I want to smack someone. Now we may be a bit behind the curve in the generational wealth game, but when I hear black people idolize other cultures, especially when those communities aren't comparable, it really grinds my gears.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

  

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hip bopper
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27. "I’m convinced that people speak on others that know nothing about them"
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>> Niggas don’t seem to be outraged enough.
>> Oh we shouldn’t be up in arms over blacks killing
>blacks...
>
> ^^^ I'm convinced that people who make this argument have
>never spent any time around black people and/or black
>institutions (churches, schools, non-profits, youth programs,
>etc).
>

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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6. "What role do you think an attorney plays in these situations?"
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legsdiamond
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7. "High profile lawyers take high profile cases"
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Tue Jun-23-20 10:04 AM by legsdiamond

          

it’s what they do.

If it’s not viewed as high profile it’s going along to get passed to a lawyer who works that type of case.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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10. "Yeah there's that. But also Crump has no role here"
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Tue Jun-23-20 10:00 AM by PimpTrickGangstaClik

          

Does he need to advocate for the family to ensure that the state pursues charges on the suspects? Doubt it. It's a regular murder. The state will prosecute it.

In a typical case, the victim (or victim's family) does not need legal representation in a criminal matter.


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15. "High profile civil rights attorneys?"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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legsdiamond
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17. "Is Crump a civil rights attorney? "
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No snark? I’m curious.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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CIPHA
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20. "RE: Is Crump a civil rights attorney? "
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https://bencrump.com/civil-rights-lawyer/

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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legsdiamond
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21. "Thanks "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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hip bopper
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28. "So because it wasn’t a white who perpetrated the crime..."
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he should not have a role (like they had first alleged)?

  

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9. "i believe you meant to post here:"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13390094&mesg_id=13390094&page=

  

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11. "lol"
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yep

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16. "well played. LOL"
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13. "FOH"
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18. "go read a fucking book."
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start here:

How to Be An Antiracist by Ibram X Kendi


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19. "Not like this. "
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Here are the three most important facts I got from this article:

1. "Family members expressed their love of Crawford, her sweet nature, and thanked the public and law enforcement for support."

The family seems happy with the job the police are doing.


2. The killer is black. Crump is a Civil Rights Attorney.

There is literally nothing for him to do in this case. Its a criminal matter for cops and prosecutors to handle and there doesn't seem to be any suggestion that they aren't doing what they are suppose to be doing.



3. "The family said while they are appreciative of the support from the community and for the media coverage, they are asking for space as they cope with their grief."

There is no call to action other than give the family space. So you managed to do the ONE thing the family doesn't want you to do with this tragedy by using this death to make arguments on social media about BLM.


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Fire1986
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22. "Both issues can be addressed"
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Police brutality and killings should addressed.

The murder of our children by other children should be addressed.

Anyone who’s lived in the inner city (especially before gentrification) knows both affect the community’s overall quality of life in extremely significant ways.

Everything has been figured out except how to live.

  

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23. "concern trolling "
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do you actually care about the young lady and her family, or are they really just a tool for you to call out blm?

  

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