What is this, Tear Down A Black Woman Week?

He released a new song tonight called “Snow on Tha Bluff” where he attacked the woman rapper Noname because she dared to...I don’t know...try to solve issues? Educate people?

And rather than offer up his own original solutions he decides to go on a long verse of critiquing her.

Wack.

the flow was a little rough in spots

as far as the content it just seemed like something more suited to DMing her to shoot the shit than making a song about it. odd song

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DALLAS LAKERICKS LETS GO!!

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Ferguson activists were doing great, then here came the BLM actors, stealing all the money and creating divison along lines of gender and sexual orientation.

Don't just listen to me tho, listen to a sister who was there on the ground when they came and is STILL there after BLM actors got mad at her for not going along with their program:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RUffcP4IEf8:


I've been a huge fan of NoName's music, but I've been watching her be on that silliness on Twitter. Some of us really have to get over this idea that Black women are above criticism. What he said was a far cry from "tearing her down." Hell I was waiting for him to say something that warranted that description after reading this post. She something about "niggas whole discographies be about black plight but they can't even put up a tweet" while J.Cole actually in the street with the people. It ain't many people these days she couldn't been talking about, so I can fault him too much if he took that personally. Maybe she should've named names or just refrained from taking shots at people as he suggested on the song. Thanks for the heads up on the song, btw.
NoName is another one who's on this nonsensical idea that black men are "erasing" other people by dying too much. Shit is just weird at this point. It would be like Black men saying Black women are erasing us from the breast cancer conversation by being 95+ percent of the cases. Black men are 96% of the police killings of black folks. How are we to blame for being targeted by white supremacist patriarchy?

Yvette Carnell also did a great show on why the BLM model is super flawed:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHaxSDWShsU

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"look at this black woman grifter on youtube who tells me what I want to hear!"

idk if black men are the white people of black people, but no one has done more to advance that argument than this dude



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Don't know or care who this Edward friend of yours is.

It's funny that you actually have rebuttals when you think you see holes in folks' arguments but tend to just troll me because you can never find the holes. Prove me otherwise at any point... or just keep trolling.

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the only kind of people you associate with, black women or not, are grifters who tell you how bad your life is in exchange for your attention.



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there's no conversation to be had.

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you'd probably like him.

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I don't think his content is straight garbage - I do think his framing undermines everything he says and while he does talk about history he seems to be fond of stripping context out of discourse.

for whatever reason no one can ever seem to say at the same time

- racism exists
- system racism exists
- your life, your existence is threatening and constantly being devalued and under attack

AND

- the way to move forward in life is to work hard or have some sort of growth mindset
- focus on building generational wealth
- fuck them dry ass haters, keep being you, keep pushing forward


It's like admitting one thing is perceived as canceling out the other thing.

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even for you.

Your defense of the "black ppl of white ppl" abomination is bad enough, but you keep reachin' for a new refutation of truth and sensibility.

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and you are.

if you don't want to be the kind of loser who does what you do, then do something different.

until then you're that loser. I didn't make you that way and it isn't my fault you're like that.

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it's going poorly.

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I'm not hearing it.

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"If you're not loving someone, you're wasting your time." - Dennis Brown

Instead of tweeting and asking about what “favorite rappers” are out there doing, reach out to said rapper and ask directly?

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There are dozens of us! Dozens!

I don't think she was directing her criticisms to any rapper in particular. J. Cole was out there protesting so I don't know why he took offence.

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"If you're not loving someone, you're wasting your time." - Dennis Brown

i follow her on twitter (odd because i've never really listened to any of her music but she's an interesting twitter follow) and im pretty sure the next day after she tweeted about that, pics of cole at the protest popped up.

i thought it was an unnecessary tweet because those dudes are out there doing it. they're just not making a show out of it.

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"If you're not loving someone, you're wasting your time." - Dennis Brown

so her comment had to be about him.
even if you have to assume her tweet was only and directly about him...
she wrote a tweet he made a whole song

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I based that on what he did with Wale when he did a song critical of him and she doesn't seem terribly bothered by the song on her timeline (though I could have missed it)

Twitter has a way of people getting worked up and offended on behalf of other people who you later find out weren't as bothered by the offense.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Breonna Taylor - DC didn't say her name or any of the other black women member's names

Oluwatoyin Salau - missing/murdered BLM activist

I'm sure there are others.....but if you don't know their names you gettin flamed; if you use the wrong pronoun you gettin flamed, etc....

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"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

to me it felt like "Tear Down A Black Man Week"

You see tons of tweets like this:

https://twitter.com/evelynvwoodsen/status/1272559806830739456

That's not a call for women to share there stories of abuse so people can learn. It's a call to say black men ain't shit. It's a weird time to promote such a message in the middle of a movement when we are trying to convince white people that Black Live Matters.

But I am beginning to see that's how twitter works. It's 95% people attacking other people and the byproduct is that after a while we all feel personally attacked.

The nation is on edge and we are seeing us starting to take it out on each other more and more online. Gender Warz was brewing on black twitter and I was thinking it might be time to log off. Maybe J Cole should have done the same...unless the track is fiyah (haven't heard it yet).

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and it seems like the best way to do it is to knock down whoever is trending or popular.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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"If you're not loving someone, you're wasting your time." - Dennis Brown

Was directly under a pic of Cole and Kendrick. So it makes sense that he would think she was talking about him. Even if it wasn't, who else could she have been talking about besides them too?

And I'm not seeing where he tore her down. His lyrics read like constructive criticism to me ... poorly timed, but constructive nonetheless

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look at yourself playing right into the colonizers tactics.

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show me the exact line

Also it just shows dude is not that bright/insightful.

And the whole negros point is he isn't that educated and bright as other people.

It's a humility you never see online.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

>Also it just shows dude is not that bright/insightful.

who ate raw meat in the Caucus Mountains.

He didn’t tear her down at all.

Twitter got y’all twisted. Smh.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Niggas be thinkin' I'm deep, intelligent, fooled by my college degree
My IQ is average, there's a young lady out there, she way smarter than me
I scrolled through her timeline in these wild times, and I started to read
She mad at these crackers, she mad at these capitalists, mad at these murder police
She mad at my niggas, she mad at our ignorance, she wear her heart on her sleeve
She mad at the celebrities, lowkey I be thinkin' she talkin' 'bout me
Now I ain't no dummy to think I'm above criticism
So when I see something that's valid, I listen
But shit, it's something about the queen tone that's botherin' me
She strike me as somebody blessed enough to grow up in conscious environment
With parents that know 'bout the struggle for liberation and in turn they provide her with
A perspective and awareness of the system and unfairness that afflicts 'em
And the clearest understandin' of what we gotta do to get free
And the frustration that fills her words seems to come from the fact that most people don't see
Just 'cause you woke and I'm not, that shit ain't no reason to talk like you better than me
How you gon' lead, when you attackin' the very same niggas that really do need the shit that you sayin'?
Instead of conveying you holier, come help get us up to speed
Shit, it's a reason it took like two hundred years for our ancestors just to get freed
These shackles be lockin' the mental way more than the physical
I look at freedom like trees, can't grow a forest like overnight
Hit the ghetto and slowly start plantin' your seeds
Fuck is the point of you preaching your message to those that already believe what you believe?
I'm on some "Fuck a retweet," most people is sheep
You got all the answers but how you gon' reach?
If I could make one more suggestion respectfully
I would say it's more effective to treat people like children
Understandin' the time and love and patience that's needed to grow
This change is inevitable but ain't none of us seen this before
Therefore we just gotta learn everything as we go
I struggle with thoughts on the daily
Feel like a slave that somehow done saved enough coins to buy his way up outta slavery
Thinkin' just maybe, in my pursuit to make life so much better for me and my babies
I done betrayed the very same people that look at me like I'm some kind of a hero
Because of the zeros that's next to the commas
But look here, I promise I'm not who you think
Ran into this nigga outside of the store yesterday
He said something that had me like, "Wait"
He was like "Cole, 'preciate what you been doin', my nigga, that's real"
But damn, why I feel faker than Snow on Tha Bluff?
Well, maybe 'cause deep down I know I ain't doing enough

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qEs2dwtjPJw

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

The shit was extremely respectful and he also spent half the song critical of himself. SMH.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

and he just wants her to soften her approach to reach more people.

How anyone could view that as an attack.. just shows how delusional some people are these days.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

https://twitter.com/JColeNC/status/1273229351958478848

Some assume to know who the song is about. That’s fine with me, it’s not my job to tell anybody what to think or feel about the work. I accept all conversation and criticisms.

https://twitter.com/JColeNC/status/1273229943246409728

Follow @noname. I love and honor her as a leader in these times. She has done and is doing the reading and the listening and the learning on the path that she truly believes is the correct one for our people. Meanwhile a nigga like me just be rapping.

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

Fuck is the point of you preaching your message to those that already believe what you believe?
I'm on some "Fuck a retweet," most people is sheep
You got all the answers but how you gon' reach?

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