& protests?

I don't know if "guilt" is the proper term......
But i'm legit torn...

I don't know if my reasons are reasons...or just excuses...

I'm cheering in spirit...but despite the multitude of opportunities to get out and pound the pavement I can't bring myself to get up, get out and get at it.

I'm just keeping it 100 with y'all....

anyway...thought this might be a good post to contribute alternative ways to support.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

My buddy is not non violent. So he’s staying his ass at home. He knows he would make things worse for himself and everyone else

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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

which is what I hope this post can evolve into in some fashion...



"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

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To be out there. I don’t at all condemn the violence and destruction becuz when our people have been subjected to violence every since our ancestors were brought to this country you can’t be shocked or bothered by a violent response.

I just want everyone to be safe and have the space to get that anger out and most importantly that all this makes what happened to George Floyd never ever happen again

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I went to the Richard Spencer protest when they were having their Nazi convention inside the Regan building and after that I said it’ll be a while before I do any mixed crowd protests.

It was antifa leaning folks, well meaning liberals, and a smattering of black people and for half the march they were chanting black lives matter.

Now that I’m typing this I realize how much that’s shaped how I’ve approached participating since and definitely now. Because Nazi sympathizers are a threat to everyone and those well meaning white people were inadvertently declaring their savior complex which does not bode well for allyship.

Unfortunately and sadly it’s being shown more and more than there’s definitely an outsized consequence to being black but that other people have been and will continue to be in mortal danger until real change happens.

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You still waving the red white and blue flag?

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I ain't old and I ain't a child.

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There’s any number of valid reasons for not going out there, but that’s not one.

More so that let's not pretend that our age demographic is running to the front lines en masse.
It's been a week of unrest. 7 days.

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>is bottomless
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>You still waving the red white and blue flag?


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

We have several at our disposal.

I don't feel guilty because I do what I can to awaken our people to who they are and what they are up against.

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I am out in the streets, but I recognize that not everyone has that luxury. Some people have comorbidities that could make teargas exposure lethal. Some people literally don’t have the free time to join. Some people are just plain scared. Guess what, it’s okay to be afraid. It’s very dangerous out there. We are victims of generational trauma. That fear is not your fault.

There are lots of ways to help out that don’t involve being on the front lines. Open your wallets. Do behind the scenes work for organizations that are doing the work. Provide REAL emotional support for the people in your lives who are taking the risks. A successful revolution needs more than soldiers.

that’s why I respect protestors. They're ready to die for the cause...

movement

take a message

police are using excessive force with white people, I'd be dumb to expect them to spare me

A friend’s daughter went down to protest...not really protesting. As my friend put it, “to see what was going on”, she took pictures and stuff but not really there to support it.

I admire and support those that are really out there doing it. It takes a different kind of spirit tho, I’m not going anywhere to just stand around. I’m in Charlotte now but once I get home I’ll check where I can help.

I don’t think I have the spirit to protest but I’m a helluva organizer...

be safe

There was a time when I would be all about this but I also know how I get down when it comes to cops.

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And if coronavirus wasn’t an issue the way some police are treating journalists (I’m a photographer) is very scary.

And the way some police are abusing protestors at anti-police brutality protests is scary.

It’s just scary on many levels so no.

I’ve fired some folks UP for trying to get at me in some dumb shit

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tries to push me back and I swing on him

it's one thing to protest injustice and it's another to address the actual root of this injustice. Ask yourself why police keep murdering black people over and over again. How modern policing has origins in slave patrols. Or how Black people were the legal property of whites, rendering Whiteness as a property right that maintained distinct privileges over and against other identities. Examine how Whiteness is still a property right that more subtly maintains privileges over those excluded from whiteness.

You gotta understand how the system is broken before you can pursue effective reparative justice. Just a few years ago the idea of reparations was almost heretical in mainstream political discourse. But more and more people started speaking it into existence. I know its a lot to ask a group of people who have been systematically oppressed to produce solutions to problems they did not create. No one person will be able to have all the answers. Until then, look at what others are doing to create alternatives to the most immediate and visceral structures of oppression and promote those kinds of discussions in your own community.

Local officials from Minnesota, for example, just announced their intention to replace police stations with alternative forms of community policing. If they can have these conversations about what alternatives to policing would look like in their community, then there is hope that others can too. At the very least, you can look into how your local school system is complicit in expanding the institutional reach of local police by the millions of dollars in contracts and partnerships already in place.

On a national level, start demanding that your politicians address things like the criminalization of drugs as explicitly racist. Don't be afraid to question why the 13 amendment legalizes slavery through prison labor. Stop settling for politicians who refuse to address these issues and are designed and pre-selected to maintain the status quo. Don't let them paint you as crazy because you refuse to negotiate on the same terms that legitimize white supremacy.

this makes no sense

the protests are getting results. I specifically know of at least 7 things that have come as a result of the protests in the last week. if you can't name any, you need to be paying closer attention

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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Who the hell would say yes even tho theI’ve been out protesting?

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this is just a normal part of convo. maybe he was being snarky since he marched, but I don't see an issue with the response.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

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Ask a question, get a response.

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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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Because I answered your question in a way you don't like.
"Does anyone feel guilty for..."
"No because I am..."

Sorry the board doesn't have the filter you need.

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>Because I answered your question in a way you don't like.
>"Does anyone feel guilty for..."
>"No because I am..."
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>Sorry the board doesn't have the filter you need.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

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There is a role for all of us to play. Some of us need to be in the streets, some us need to be in the court houses and law offices, some of us need to be in the Board rooms, some of us need to be in the classrooms, some of us need to be emptying out our wallets, some of us need to be in the patient care centers etc etc

every Black person gets to decide how and when they fight. It takes a 360 degree approach to beat this shit back. We get to fight when we need to and rest when we need to.

although I do plan to be in Washington on Aug 28.

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I wanted to let my kids feel it and help them better understand.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

pandemic
sick parents

https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/

https://8cantwait.org/

I physically can't be there but there are other ways of showing meaningful support.

Make phone calls to the police stations, aldermans, officials etc.




You got kids fam if you dont want to put yourself in harms aint nothing wrong with that. There's many ways to attack this.

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I held up my sign: Fraternal Order of Police = KKK and Repeal the law Enforcement Officers' Bill or Rights (big issue in maryland police accountability)

Gave a speech and dipped out. It is not safe to be out in large groups at all. I was the only person representing my organization (the naacp) at the march. Most of my colleagues are older and need to stay in quarantine. They have been doing great work in coordinating online zoom calls, letter writing, and other methods of digital activism. There are so many protests out here this week that really shouldn't be happening. There was a thousand person protest a few days ago. I really wish people were staying home but I understand the passion and restlessness that is being called up by seeing the continued pain of police brutality and the police and Republicans escalating violence in responding to the marches, especially in the midst of the pandemic..

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

due to covid-19 and the need for "virtual arraignment"

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/06/05/deeply-disturbing-new-york-supreme-court-judge-rules-protesters-can-be-detained

This is why this HAS to be a long, sustained fight. the state will find every possible way to establish "order"

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cuz you clearly don't understand gentrification if you're using it in this context.

so i'm wondering what you're poorly attempting to convey here.

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They don't need he hurt, arrested or worse.

They need me here, today and tomorrow, and yes, for this specific issue.

Yeah we got peaceful protests going on out here, so it's not like I have significant fear of any of the above, but to that end, me standing out there holding a sign isn't going to make much of a difference in the grand scheme of things. Being honest with myself, I know I'm not trying to be a real, on the clock activist out there, on this or any other issue.

My efforts are better spent better educating myself, reading and listening to black voices on the subject so that I can be a better educated voice within my small circle of influence, having difficult conversations with people who don't get it, being here to help my 9 year old daughter understand the shit that's going on in the world, being a source of education and wisdom for younger allies who are trying to say and do the right things.

I have guilt for my own overall inadequacies in this area, for rationalizing my relationships with people who were on the wrong side of this issue for far, far too long before cutting ties completely, despite trying to be that voice of reason. I have guilt for even thinking about those people, though I've long since made the choice to cut them out of my life.

I don't know. I may well be simply trying to rationalize why I'm not doing more, the way that I would rationalize any other shortcoming.

It's not like i spend a significant amount of my free time in serious study on this issue. I've been sitting on "How To Be An Antiracist" for about a month, choosing other things than digging into this book on the subject.

because the real march will begin when this officer is acquitted.

This virus scares the shit out of me.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

I’ve been out three times now. 99% of people are wearing masks. Most of these protests follow a route. You can safely March until the end of the route, and go home. Shit doesn’t really start going down until about 30 minutes after the marching ends.

The first day I went out, I was on the block with a torch the cop car, but that was probably about 30 minutes after the marching and speaking ended. The second time, I promised my wife that I would be home before shit got crazy, and showing off I was at the table, eating dinner when cops opened up on the protesters with teargas and rubber bullets.

You can be seen and have your voice is heard without putting yourself at risk. The government needs to see our numbers, and more importantly, it’s good for your mental health. It gives you hope. Being out there with the people makes it feel as if we can win.

Even with masks.

Even outside.

It has never been “if you’re outside surrounded by people but have a mask on you’re good”

It has always been “Have a mask on PLUS six feet of distance, yes even outside”

And yes I am aware there has been recent studies showing you are less likely to get it outside, but the caveat there has always been you have to be outside PLUS six feet away.

Don’t be encouraging folks to go out there because most people have on masks, that’s not the entire story...

People can still catch coronavirus even with a mask on even outside even while moving in a march because people are all on top of each other.

If folks were socially distancing at protests with masks on I would be all for it but they aren’t so folks that are staying home in my opinion are doing the right thing.

These coronavirus cases are gonna spike in 2 weeks and it’s gonna suck.

But every march is not the same.

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

or a flash bang going off near me

fuck that



Also if you go on reddit and look at the r/publicfreakout and r/fightporn

there is lawlessness going down in some places and neighborhoods. Mobs jumping people. No one on the left wants to talk about the rise in assaults, rape and homicides.



nah i'm good

Not sure why the left has to speak on it more than they already do

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yep that makes me GOP

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I was speaking more about the actual rise in rape and homicide


this protest isn't a universally good thing

You sound like a white dude in Indiana with this nonsense.

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How simple minded

got too comfortable.

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But that's a symptom of the disease that people are protesting.

There, I fixed it for you.

>this protest isn't a universally good thing

You're slipping up here, yet again.

The *protest* is 100% a good thing.

The rioting and looting is the part where that good breaks down into gray territory, because there is an obvious boiling over effect, as well as likely outside agitators who aren't actually empathetic to this cause, and aren't there to protest at all. There's a lot of nuance to the riots and looting discussion.

But you said these protests aren't a universally good thing.

Not the rioting.
Not the looting.

The protests.

This, plus your prior statement, which came out of nowhere after a perfectly reasonable comment about why you aren't joining the protests, comes across like you're used to speaking to....being charitable.... another, very different, audience.

>RE: Looting isn't a universally good thing
>But that's a symptom of the disease that people are
>protesting.
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>There, I fixed it for you.
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>>this protest isn't a universally good thing
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>You're slipping up here, yet again.
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>The *protest* is 100% a good thing.
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>The rioting and looting is the part where that good breaks
>down into gray territory, because there is an obvious boiling
>over effect, as well as likely outside agitators who aren't
>actually empathetic to this cause, and aren't there to protest
>at all. There's a lot of nuance to the riots and looting
>discussion.
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>But you said these protests aren't a universally good thing.
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>Not the rioting.
>Not the looting.
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>The protests.
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>This, plus your prior statement, which came out of nowhere
>after a perfectly reasonable comment about why you aren't
>joining the protests, comes across like you're used to
>speaking to....being charitable.... another, very different,
>audience.

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Conversation.

It's understandable to not want to put yourself in a potentially violent situation.

But then you let that dog whistle slip, like you forgot where you are for a minute. Now that shit reads like you're two sentences away from saying "also, what about black on black crime".

as far as i know there has only been one protest in my city. i had my selfish excuses to not go.

ive helped in other ways but i do want to go out there as well.

Also, what’s wild is Trump is gonna use this to his advantage.

Even now he’s saying “mass gatherings” are okay because of the protests (which isn’t true), and he’s gonna restart campaign rallies (fine I say, let coronavirus do the lord’s work taking out Republicans one by one)...

BUT for sure when these Coronavirus numbers spike next week because of the protests he’s gonna find a way to use THAT to his advantage too.

He’s such a dick.

though I'm sure he wants that.

he's definitely gonna blame all new deaths on protests though

they care about the lives of black criminals but not police or your grandma. something like that.

>they care about the lives of black criminals but not police or
>your grandma. something like that.

I grew tired of marches and protests back in 2016 after Sterling and Castille were murdered. I was out there in downtown Oakland, help to shut down I-880, and saw people from all types coming together unlike any other time before. It didn't do anything for me and at the time I couldn't see what it did for the people who died as a result of police violence.

When these protest began, I thought it would be like those from the past and while I applauded the effort, it felt this isn't the best strategy for me anymore. As the days turned into weeks I began to realize that this wave seemed different. The protest spirit was spreading and it was having a major effect on changing peoples perceptions. What I've seen across the globe, especially in Europe is amazing. I mean, we have more visual evidence of the abusive nature of the police in the past 14 days than we had in the past 14 years. The fact that cities are considering de-funding their police depts or just plain disbanding them is unheard of. Officers are being charged in rapid fashion due to video evidence and public pressure. The president is being shown for the testicles his is, fragile and easily shriveled when fear comes within. I was wrong about the effect the protest would initially have. This one is different.

Still, I have responsibilities that make me fearful of taking myself and my children out there in the midst of this pandemic. North Carolina is having new daily highs of positive tests almost everyday since last Friday. Mask or not, I'm not putting myself at risk. I applaud those who do or have done and what you're doing is needed.

What I have been doing is sending money and educating myself and my children. I belief in self-sustainability and Black farmers so that's where the majority of my money has been going. I also send money to an Anti-Racist Education organization that trains educators on how to be anti-racist in the schools as well as host summer camps for the kids on anti-racism.

While this may not be the sexy part of protesting, it is needed. I appreciated what Killer Mike stated when he said to "plot, plan, strategize, and mobilize" and all this is part of the plan.

If you are interested in checking out or donating to these organizations please click below:

https://www.weare-nc.org/
https://www.sankofafarmsllc.com/

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I don’t want to get pepper sprayed or ran over with a car. The Charlottesville incident from 2017 is HEAVY on my mind.

The protests are no good for my anxiety or my overall mental health. I’ve watched more video clips on social media and I’m just sitting here boiling with rage.

To put myself in the middle of that would be asinine.

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in your communities/neighborhoods where social distancing is more possible. Talk to the retail and restaurant workers in your area and find out what spots are shitting on their employees and create ways of holding them accountable. Make these same businesses invest in individual black people and the movement. Find out how to amplify the demands of organizers. Set up Zoom town halls and other events where they can discuss their goals with the broader community. Donate to bail and legal funds. Donate to individual organizers. Send food to a movement meeting. Make sure you’re eligible to sit on juries. They’re going to try to roof protesters in many cities. We need folks on juries who won’t allow it. Engage in political education and share what you’ve learned with others. Be able to speak with authority about abolition and defunding. Don’t allow people to speak badly about the kids who burned and looted. Don’t make distinctions between “peaceful” and “violent” protests. Respond to racist articles in your local papers that try to make the movement look bad. Have your kid’s schools bring organizers in to speak to the students. Put pressure on your job to issue statements in support of the movement and donate money.

As someone who organizes, this is where we need middle aged people tbt. The youth have the streets already. People in our age group have the resources, social networks, and the respectability to support what the youth are doing. If you really feel the need to participate in direct actions, train as a legal observer or medic. You could also just stay on the perimeter to watch out for the young folks. Document any abuses from the pigs. Give out water and snacks. Purchase some portable charges and have them available to protesters. Participate in jail support and court support.

But if I really felt bad I would just tell people I was there.

Who would know.

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