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legsdiamond
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"Race to Dinner. White women pay $2500 to be shown their racism"


          

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/feb/03/race-to-dinner-party-racism-women

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Freshly made pasta is drying on the wooden bannisters lining the hall of a beautiful home in Denver, Colorado. Fox-hunting photos decorate the walls in a room full of books. A fire is burning. And downstairs, a group of liberal white women have gathered around a long wooden table to admit how racist they are.
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“Recently, I have been driving around, seeing a black person, and having an assumption that they are up to no good,” says Alison Gubser. “Immediately after I am like, that’s no good! This is a human, just doing their thing. Why do I think that?”

This is Race to Dinner. A white woman volunteers to host a dinner in her home for seven other white women – often strangers, perhaps acquaintances. (Each dinner costs $2,500, which can be covered by a generous host or divided among guests.) A frank discussion is led by co-founders Regina Jackson, who is black, and Saira Rao, who identifies as Indian American. They started Race to Dinner to challenge liberal white women to accept their racism, however subconscious. “If you did this in a conference room, they’d leave,” Rao says. “But wealthy white women have been taught never to leave the dinner table.”

Rao and Jackson believe white, liberal women are the most receptive audience because they are open to changing their behavior. They don’t bother with the 53% of white women who voted for Trump. White men, they feel, are similarly a lost cause. “White men are never going to change anything. If they were, they would have done it by now,” Jackson says.

White women, on the other hand, are uniquely placed to challenge racism because of their proximity to power and wealth, Jackson says. “If they don’t hold these positions themselves, the white men in power are often their family, friends and partners.”
It seems unlikely anyone would voluntarily go to a dinner party in which they’d be asked, one by one, “What was a racist thing you did recently?” by two women of color, before appetizers are served. But Jackson and Rao have hardly been able to take a break since they started these dinners in the spring of 2019. So far, 15 dinners have been held in big cities across the US...


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im not mad at it...pretty cool idea. definitely a setup for teachable
May 27th 2020
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My wife thought it was a reality show
May 27th 2020
2
Fck that. Yet another example of their rampant entitlement....smh....
May 27th 2020
3
these minority women are making $2.5k a pop
May 27th 2020
5
you know? where can i sign up?
May 27th 2020
9
they're trying to show y'all how to get this money
May 27th 2020
12
I can't condone the notion that you can pay your way out of being a raci...
May 28th 2020
14
      Who said anything about being cured after one dinner?
May 28th 2020
15
      They're basically paying POC to flex their privilege.
May 28th 2020
16
      may as well let them pay a couple grand to find out
May 28th 2020
17
      Awesome. That means it's a constant, eternal revenue stream.
May 28th 2020
19
      setting up that recurring gcal appointment right now
May 28th 2020
21
      OK, y'all got me, i guess I can muster a couple of claps....
May 28th 2020
23
You always fake mad.. lol. Let these women get that bread.
May 27th 2020
6
Yeah, this is stupid n/m
May 28th 2020
13
I can't wait for this episode of Atlanta based on this.
May 27th 2020
4
lol, i literally can't wait.
May 27th 2020
10
Well intended cringe
May 27th 2020
7
great responses in here so far lol
May 27th 2020
8
I feel horrible. I'm so so sorry
May 27th 2020
11
Theres something weird about the high price
May 28th 2020
18
They're buying their absolution
May 28th 2020
20
you know they're not taking money from anyone who needs it
May 28th 2020
22
Wealthy People throw away there money on less worthier stuff all the tim...
May 28th 2020
24
nm
May 28th 2020
25

mikediggz
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1. "im not mad at it...pretty cool idea. definitely a setup for teachable"
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moments...i would just wonder if ppl would actually showup, but it sounds like that isnt an issue. id like to see a similar setup in a difft setting maybe like an open forum where white women could actually talk to young black men and sit down with them and dialogue...so they could hopefully see that we are actually humans and dont all dont wanna innately bring harm to their pristine existences.

  

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legsdiamond
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2. "My wife thought it was a reality show"
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the idea is great, the price is pretty insane tho but I guess it’s geared at a certain demo.

Would love to see video clips of these dinners.

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FLUIDJ
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3. "Fck that. Yet another example of their rampant entitlement....smh...."
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Can they do ANYTHING for themselves for fcks sake?????

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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cgonz00cc
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5. "these minority women are making $2.5k a pop"
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just to tell white people how and why they are racist

what is there to be mad about? lol

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Damali
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9. "you know? where can i sign up?"
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i'm so built for this

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12. "they're trying to show y'all how to get this money"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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FLUIDJ
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14. "I can't condone the notion that you can pay your way out of being a raci..."
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I don't want to knock their hustle....
but....I can't say I clap to it either....


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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legsdiamond
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15. "Who said anything about being cured after one dinner? "
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micMajestic
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16. "They're basically paying POC to flex their privilege. "
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It's a great idea, we need to middleman their "culture" like they do ours. These conversations are had when we aren't around, why not get something out of it?

I want to believe the owners are ok with the idea that many of these folks won't change, but they just can't say that when they're promoting their events.

  

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17. "may as well let them pay a couple grand to find out"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Boogie Stimuli
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19. "Awesome. That means it's a constant, eternal revenue stream."
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It's therapy for $2500.

I wish white people WOULD pay me thousands to tell them about their racism, b/c I'd never be done telling them. I'd see them next week, same time.
Same expense.

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21. "setting up that recurring gcal appointment right now"
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I've been sitting here knowing about their racism for all this time for free, tbh that was my mistake for not being more ambitious

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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FLUIDJ
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23. "OK, y'all got me, i guess I can muster a couple of claps...."
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legsdiamond
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6. "You always fake mad.. lol. Let these women get that bread. "
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you really think white women can tell each other how they are being racist and don’t even know it?

The hell?

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NorthWeezy
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13. "Yeah, this is stupid n/m"
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4. "I can't wait for this episode of Atlanta based on this. "
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Or maybe even a Jordan Peele movie where it turns into a murder fest.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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10. "lol, i literally can't wait."
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Wed May-27-20 05:01 PM by dillinjah

          

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7. "Well intended cringe"
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on steroids

I agree with buddy above. It feels like some Jordan Peele or Atlanta episode shit

  

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mikediggz
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8. "great responses in here so far lol"
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micMajestic
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11. "I feel horrible. I'm so so sorry "
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The two ladies running the event are on to something.

This demo is keenly invested in talking/typing about their feelings at length.

  

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18. "Theres something weird about the high price"
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Not that the women running it are getting it (good for them), but that the white women are paying for it and its like this fancy dinner party at someones mansion. Like this is something you have to be wealthy to afford? Not being racist is a luxury good? If these dinners cost $50 I bet none of them would sign up.

Tbh, this should just be a class that all white kids have to take in school.

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20. "They're buying their absolution"
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Also, the cost probably motivates the participants to be a little more invested in the experience.

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22. "you know they're not taking money from anyone who needs it"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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24. "Wealthy People throw away there money on less worthier stuff all the tim..."
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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25. "nm"
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Thu May-28-20 02:53 PM by MEAT

  

          

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