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"Shaun King Keeps Raising Money & Questions About Where It Goes (link)"


          

This article is WAY too long to post a full swipe here. But it is a hell of a piece. I knew he wasn't shit after he got a family member with that LifeGoals shit and I remember reading about the Mountain Climbing a couple of years back.

This piece is long AF but absolutely worth the read.

I've included a partial swipe

https://www.thedailybeast.com/shaun-king-keeps-raising-money-and-questions-about-where-it-goes-3


hen Shaun King and progressive journalist Benjamin Dixon launched an ambitious multimedia reboot of Frederick Douglass’s abolitionist newspaper, The North Star, last February, it was celebrated across social media by prominent voices including Susan Sarandon, Michael Eric Dyson and Megan Mullally. A month later, the company boasted on Twitter that it already had “multiple angel investors” and more than 30,000 subscribers contributing $5 per month for students and $10 a month and up for the general public.

Subscribers at the highest giving levels, according to one former employee I spoke with, included Sigourney Weaver, Brené Brown, and black billionaire philanthropist Robert Smith, who gave a healthy $10,000 a month. If every single subscriber gave at the lowest $5 a month “student plan” level, subscriber revenue totalled more than $125,000 monthly, or $1.5 million a year, per figures tweeted by both King and The North Star.

“Remember — this is not just the cost of membership — we are going to be building multiple studios and offices and will be hiring nearly 50 world class journalists and staffers for The North Star,” King wrote in a fundraising letter last November. “We are going to be launching a full news website, an iPhone & Android app, four brand new podcasts, online video news broadcasts, and so much more. We are building The North Star together.”

But 14 months after launching, almost none of what King promised to build has appeared and the site has struggled with issues that alienated many subscribers. The headquarters and television studio was quietly shuttered last summer, and all Atlanta-based staffers laid off. The mobile app disappeared for over a year, and the “full news site” displays branded The North Star apparel for sale alongside relatively scant original journalism.

King told me in an extensive email exchange for this story in early April that The North Star’s stumbles, including the dearth of deliverables promised, can be chalked up to the same overzealousness that has been the downfall of his other projects—the result of his tendency to take on too much, too soon.

“When we launched The North Star, virtually every advisor I had insisted that we should not do written articles, podcasts, and video news at the same time,” King wrote. “I just knew we could do it. They were right.”

But seven former employees of The North Star — three of whom spoke anonymously out of fear of reprisal by King, and six of whom were told they had to sign non-disclosure agreements to receive severances — said the issue was less King’s over-ambition than his absenteeism, insistence on absolute control, and radical incompetence. They said he had little interest in feedback from staffers he had ostensibly brought on for their lengthy resumes and media experience, despite his own lack of the same. Two iterations of broadcast news shows were scrapped, and their staffs and hosts fired, before they ever aired, and Dixon was pushed out even as money poured in and the site remained underpopulated.

It’s well documented that King—one of Bernie Sanders’ most prominent surrogates in both 2016 and 2020—has used his social media platforms to garner national headlines for stories of racial injustice that would likely have otherwise been neglected or ignored. The outrage and media attention that followed King’s sharing of graphic and horrific footage of Ahmaud Arbery, a young black man, being gunned down in February by two white men, was the catalyst for Georgia law enforcement to finally arrest the killers. In 2017, King successfully crowdsourced the identities of at least two of the white racists who brutally assaulted DeAndre Harris during the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia.

As those headlines have raised his profile, King has continued to raise money, including through a Patreon fundraising campaign launched this April—again requesting $5 per month from students, $10 and up from general public subscribers—to turn The Breakdown podcast into a “daily video news broadcast.” Critical observers were quick to point out that King’s earlier fundraising letters for The North Star had also promised subscription fees would underwrite “daily online video news broadcasts.” In the letter announcing the relaunch, King explicitly asked contributors to the original The North Star fundraiser to also become monthly paying subscribers to a live broadcast version of a podcast that’s part of The North Star, a project that was already funded, per King’s own tweets, in February 2019. "Before we announce this to the public,” King wrote in the email, “we want the original Breakdown Crew to join us.”

The announcement of the new crowdfunding campaign revived rumors that have swirled on social media since it first launched that The North Star is more of a money-making maneuver than the “fully independent, unbought, unbossed media company focused on freedom” King had promised.

It has also fueled long-standing accusations—primarily lodged by black women and queer folks, nearly all of whom are his former co-organizers, colleagues, employees and supporters—that King has inflated, mismanaged or failed to account for funds he’s raised for various social justice causes.

While it should be noted that no criminal or civil charges have ever been filed against King, the story—in the words of former employees of The North Star—was one of “self sabotage” by him, and “really shady fucking business” with “a liar & a fraud.”......

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A lot of you players ain't okay.

We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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cant even hate on the finesse at this point.
May 26th 2020
1
why doesn't he just set up a "foundation" and or LLC...
May 26th 2020
9
      Some people think they can do it all
May 26th 2020
13
           aye cool out bruh.
May 26th 2020
15
           Huh? I wasn’t disagreeing with you
May 26th 2020
20
           lmao
May 26th 2020
23
           so many questions fam.
May 26th 2020
26
                But don’t PACs use some of those donations for “expenses”
May 27th 2020
36
Meh... people need to stop giving him money
May 26th 2020
2
cashing in on people's faux internet activism
May 26th 2020
3
Obviously he is doing something right..
May 26th 2020
4
Can picture these folks feelin real good about themselves afterward too
May 26th 2020
6
yeah people who want the world to be better fucking suck man.
May 26th 2020
19
Shaun is absolutely trash but if you’re giving your
May 26th 2020
5
Trash? Is he really THAT bad?
May 26th 2020
8
This article is written like once a year lol
May 26th 2020
7
I appreciate the work that the dude is doing.
May 26th 2020
10
Basically. He's trying to do too much
May 26th 2020
11
this got me lol
May 26th 2020
33
Alladis ^^^^
May 26th 2020
12
you just said:
May 26th 2020
14
Consistent mismanagement is stealing.
May 26th 2020
21
Right. Not only that, he's said as much about himself in the past.
May 26th 2020
24
yellow people can do anything for these people here
May 26th 2020
25
'mismanagement' is being kind.
May 26th 2020
27
what work is he actually doing though
May 26th 2020
28
He's a victim of his own success
May 26th 2020
16
i'm here. he's elon musk but race is a tougher problem than space.
May 26th 2020
22
I've been laughing at this comparison for days because
Jun 08th 2020
123
its mostly black people (especially women) calling him out.
May 26th 2020
29
According to you
May 26th 2020
30
      fam stop lol.
May 26th 2020
31
           Lmao.. so because Oprah helped him it doesn’t count?
May 27th 2020
34
                when did you become so annoying?
May 27th 2020
35
                     When did you become so sensitive?
May 27th 2020
37
but this ain't business
Jun 10th 2020
152
      RE: but this ain't business
Jun 10th 2020
153
           incredibly stupid is cool
Jun 10th 2020
154
                RE: incredibly stupid is cool
Jun 10th 2020
156
                     incredibly stupid is insulting
Jun 10th 2020
157
                          I meant it to be insulting
Jun 10th 2020
159
                               ^ Shaun's wife.
Jun 10th 2020
160
There are too many people with stories like this:
May 26th 2020
17
You mean ol girl who accused him of theft publicly?
May 26th 2020
18
ok shaun's wife
May 26th 2020
32
That's such a terrible example to cite though.
May 28th 2020
40
      .
May 28th 2020
41
      you would think so
May 28th 2020
45
           What is it you told that black woman here again?
May 29th 2020
64
                remember how you know you're full of shit so you have to change
May 29th 2020
67
A million m'fers shitting on one dude trying
May 27th 2020
38
Like dude said.. it’s an annual thing
May 28th 2020
39
      I'm not above cherrypicking personality traits
May 28th 2020
44
           who is questing for perfection?
May 28th 2020
48
I don't bag on Shaun for two reasons
May 28th 2020
42
which work is he doing again?
May 28th 2020
43
He's done some great work in IDing Supremacists post-Charlottesville
May 28th 2020
46
and that's the thing
May 28th 2020
47
      Everybody is doing the work?
May 29th 2020
50
           see it's funny how you provide your own debunk and dismiss it
May 29th 2020
52
           I posted a link to the red cross, so any money the red cross raised
May 29th 2020
53
           congratulations on not reading the article in the very first post.
May 29th 2020
54
           I figured you can't read, here is the simple challenge to prove it.
May 29th 2020
63
                I didn't accuse him of doing that.
May 29th 2020
65
                     See how these fuckin liars operate?
May 29th 2020
71
                          which article did I point you to mrs. shaun king?
May 29th 2020
72
                          post 54 where you congratulate dude for not read THE ARTICLE
May 29th 2020
74
                               yes, I congratulated him.
May 29th 2020
75
                                    It's honestly disappointing that you're an adult
May 29th 2020
76
                                         not even one claim about anything I've actually said or done.
May 29th 2020
77
                          tell me more about my assertions. also, how's shaun, mrs. king?
May 29th 2020
73
           this has not been true about shaun king
May 29th 2020
68
                Loser, even the OP Article critical of King acknowleges this. SMH.
May 29th 2020
78
                     oh, so you did read it. and you just ignored the parts you didn't like
May 29th 2020
79
RE: which work is he doing again?
May 29th 2020
49
      ...says shaun king's wife
May 29th 2020
51
           I'd deflect too if I held your position.
May 29th 2020
55
                ....says shaun king's wife
May 29th 2020
56
                     : /
May 29th 2020
57
exactly. it's never the damn near 50 families that say he helped them
May 29th 2020
81
I'll say this, I know a few well known activists who are on TV all the t...
May 29th 2020
58
So...you know people
May 29th 2020
59
Lmao.. maybe he donated to King and feels burned
May 29th 2020
61
see how these fuckin liars operate
May 29th 2020
69
not like you do since you're his wife
May 29th 2020
70
someone on this very board warned us of deray during his rise, too
May 29th 2020
82
      And, let's be honest, he's gay
May 29th 2020
84
           oh., FOfuckingSHO, that's MOST of it. but he just in that clique
May 29th 2020
85
           LOL.
May 29th 2020
87
To The Detractors: Who Then?
May 29th 2020
60
That could get messy
May 29th 2020
62
people who collect and distribute money should probably be looked into
May 29th 2020
80
LOL. literally anyone else
May 29th 2020
66
      I think our difference is I want Black people to win
May 30th 2020
88
           because I agree with shaun king that he's incompetent?
May 31st 2020
97
                Because you still haven't offered an alternative
May 31st 2020
98
                     LOL. you don't know anyone else?
May 31st 2020
104
                     "watch the world burn"
May 31st 2020
105
Reeq, don't go out like RJCC. Make the case.
May 29th 2020
83
thank you for admitting you're a liar.
May 29th 2020
86
Like Clockwork, Shaun King grifting in Minneapolis:
May 30th 2020
89
I donated to them yesterday because I have discernment
May 30th 2020
90
I’m hesitant to donate to any fund besides a fund for the family
May 30th 2020
92
      In case you want actual information
May 30th 2020
93
           Thx
May 30th 2020
94
Looks like grifters name dropping
May 30th 2020
91
so, to be clear
May 30th 2020
95
Yo... lmao.
May 30th 2020
96
didn't they say "donate to this group?"
May 31st 2020
99
      It's 2 different groups but they're affiliated
May 31st 2020
102
           The other groups web page was extremely light on content
May 31st 2020
103
Where is the Shaun King tweet/solicitation they are referencing?
May 31st 2020
100
      Yeah.. looks like they name dropped to get some momentum
May 31st 2020
101
      link:
Jun 08th 2020
138
WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!!
Jun 01st 2020
106
posting for balance:
Jun 05th 2020
107
I mean, twitter has people telling folks to not give to the NAACP
Jun 05th 2020
108
It's obvious this shit stems from some high school-level activist beef
Jun 06th 2020
110
      LOL.
Jun 06th 2020
111
           it is consistently the same goofy chicks you simp for
Jun 06th 2020
114
                LOL
Jun 07th 2020
116
                I know man, it sucks that nobody knows who you are and no one cares
Jun 08th 2020
117
Unfortunately this doesn’t matter
Jun 05th 2020
109
isn't the north star the site shaun king ran into the ground
Jun 06th 2020
112
it's very weird that people accuse shaun of being bad at organizing
Jun 06th 2020
113
      "helped" raise really got y'all upset, huh?
Jun 06th 2020
115
           who are my faves again?
Jun 08th 2020
118
           He's not upset, it's just his weak "pivot"
Jun 08th 2020
119
                show me where I ever said he was a thief.
Jun 08th 2020
120
                     So he don't steal, raise money, or do any real work?
Jun 08th 2020
121
                          is this your weak pivot away from claiming I made a weak pivot?
Jun 08th 2020
122
                               You're a joke and you think this contrarian socratic bullshit works
Jun 08th 2020
124
                                    it's "contrarian socratic bullshit" to accuse someone of pivoting
Jun 08th 2020
125
                                    ^^^LOL. Stop dude.
Jun 08th 2020
127
                                         show where the goal post moved.
Jun 08th 2020
128
                                         this is such bizarre bullshit
Jun 08th 2020
129
                                         buddy pivoted away from this conversation real fast
Jun 08th 2020
134
                                         as soon as buddy realized he fucked up here he ran away LOL
Jun 08th 2020
142
                                         he argues exactly like them corny, hysterical, no account twitter chicks
Jun 08th 2020
149
                                              this is a boldfaced lie, you know and I know that no one gets mad at you
Jun 09th 2020
150
                                    ....I guess you can't read good?
Jun 08th 2020
126
                                         You think what your saying here (or in #53) makes sense?
Jun 08th 2020
130
                                              if you want to lie and claim you misread it
Jun 08th 2020
131
                                                   Yeah no. It's not clear to me what you are trying to say and it sounds ...
Jun 08th 2020
132
                                                        so am I also implying that he didn't post a link?
Jun 08th 2020
133
                                                             Anyone care to translate what RJCC is trying to say here?
Jun 08th 2020
135
                                                                  I know bb, it's hard to read when you're illiterate.
Jun 08th 2020
136
                                                                  remember 5 posts ago when you made up quotes and pretended I said them
Jun 08th 2020
137
                                                                       You are do that thing where you are responding 3 to 1.
Jun 08th 2020
140
                                                                            oh, you were quoting words you made up
Jun 08th 2020
141
                                                                                 Your dumbness is a product of thinking that you are smarter than you
Jun 10th 2020
158
                                                                                      you're right, I should've read your post
Jun 10th 2020
161
                                                                                           I acknowledged in #140 it was unclear and clarified, and you are still
Jun 11th 2020
164
                                                                                           cool, so we agree I didn't say anything you have a problem with
Jun 11th 2020
167
ya'll are just arguing with RJCC or charachterizations of Shaun King
Jun 08th 2020
139
no one is arguing with me about anything I've actually said.
Jun 08th 2020
143
Your vague idioms aint doing shit for black people
Jun 08th 2020
144
LOL
Jun 08th 2020
146
Seems like SK moves on just fine
Jun 08th 2020
145
What you are saying is nonsense.
Jun 08th 2020
147
      it's funny that buddy acts like nobody else raises money
Jun 08th 2020
148
we don't put this much passion into Nancy Pelosi's dealings...
Jun 10th 2020
151
"When theres smoke, theres fire"="Many people are talking abt..(c) Trump...
Jun 10th 2020
155
BLM gonna be on the Summer Jam screen next:
Jun 11th 2020
162
gone. what was it?
Jun 11th 2020
163
Think I posted the link wrong
Jun 11th 2020
165
      People just creating bogus BLM chapters and caking up?
Jun 11th 2020
166
      no, they're going at the leadership, not the local chapters
Jun 11th 2020
168
      I think this is the tweet with information
Jun 11th 2020
169
Good. expose any grifters, but keep the movement moving
Jun 11th 2020
170
& now Breonna Taylor in Kentucky:
Jun 12th 2020
171
He really upsets you.. lol
Jun 13th 2020
172
Except
Jun 13th 2020
174
and then there's this:
Jun 13th 2020
175
and this:
Jun 13th 2020
176
why not link to shaun king's instagram?
Jun 15th 2020
177
      Because I posted links from the same Twitter stream
Jun 15th 2020
178
           well, if shaun king says so and someone else screencaps it
Jun 15th 2020
180
                You mistyped. You meant if the sponsor of the actual legislation says so...
Jun 15th 2020
181
                     no, I typed correctly.
Jun 16th 2020
184
Are you all really this uncritical of things you read on twitter?
Jun 15th 2020
179
      she's one of them twitter chicks i referred to earlier. irrational
Jun 15th 2020
182
      I love that you jumped off the top rope to claim irrational
Jun 16th 2020
186
      you said blm louisville isn't criticizing king
Jun 16th 2020
183
      "(Leslie Mac mentions BLM-Louisville but that org isn't criticizing SK)"
Jun 16th 2020
185
      BLM Louisville back in May:
Jun 16th 2020
187
           do I have the wrong twitter account? lmk buddy
Jun 16th 2020
188
                Fair enough, I got that one wrong.
Jun 16th 2020
189
                     so, the family, who didn't ask for this and has no media training
Jun 16th 2020
190
                     oh, it was the national story thing in the middle
Jun 16th 2020
191
                          #68 but whatever
Jun 16th 2020
192
                               yes, whatever
Jun 16th 2020
193
This is the guy who says Biden more racist than all Republicans...
Jun 13th 2020
173
MN Freedom Fund raised 35 mil - to spend 200k on black folx
Jun 16th 2020
194
yes, they suddenly got inundated with additional funding
Jun 16th 2020
195
Yup
Jun 16th 2020
196
      very suspicious how they literally begged people to donate elsewhere
Jun 16th 2020
197
nah don't hop on this train, whether trying to prove a point or not
Jun 17th 2020
198
white nationalists hating him makes me like him more
Jun 25th 2020
199
lol
Jun 25th 2020
200
before the usual suspects whine
Jun 25th 2020
202
      Know how I know you're full of shit?
Jun 26th 2020
203
           Yeah that shed a whole new light for me too
Jun 26th 2020
204
           I bet it did LOL
Jun 26th 2020
206
           nah motherfucker. white supremacists have threatened me
Jun 26th 2020
205
Not a fan of Dude Dolezal BUT this is hard to ignore
Jun 25th 2020
201
smh cmon fam.
Jul 04th 2020
207
I'm now convinced that he's white
Jul 04th 2020
208
lol @ this andrew schulz segment
Jul 04th 2020
209
      Nah I'm gonna give him credit
Jul 05th 2020
214
shaun deleted his original tweet. heres a screenshot:
Jul 04th 2020
210
idk man, maybe the guy who throws a "junior staffer"
Jul 04th 2020
212
from tax fraud, money laundering to...stolen tweets.
Jul 05th 2020
213
      LOL. I recall you whining like a fuckin four year old over
Jul 06th 2020
218
           and I recall simps covering for the thick-gummed female version of you
Jul 06th 2020
227
heres a twitter thread on some of shaun kings 'history'.
Jul 04th 2020
211
I don’t think anyone big who funds him cares about these lil tweets
Jul 05th 2020
215
She immediately lied about Tamir Rice's family. IMMEDIATELY
Jul 05th 2020
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      lol
Jul 06th 2020
217
           any other white-owned opinions you wanna share?
Jul 06th 2020
219
           I have no idea what you think that's referring to.
Jul 06th 2020
222
           How many men have “pushed” King?
Jul 06th 2020
220
                where'd you get your "mostly" figure?
Jul 06th 2020
221
                Same place I get all my Shaun King news.. from this place.
Jul 06th 2020
225
                     LOL
Jul 07th 2020
229
                ....how do you know who has legally gone after him?
Jul 06th 2020
223
                     I have. Nobody is the answer. Now what?
Jul 06th 2020
224
                     lemme hold that PACER login
Jul 07th 2020
230
                     Don’t care enough to check... I’m sure you guys would’ve posted i...
Jul 06th 2020
226
                          ty for honestly answering that question
Jul 07th 2020
231
"Mayonnaise Medgar Evers
Jul 07th 2020
228
Tamir Rice's mom, Samaria Rice, talks about King, Crump and Tamika Mallo...
Mar 16th 2021
232
Ben Crump is always everywhere
Mar 17th 2021
233
Ben Crump got a 27M pre-court settlement for George Floyd's death
Mar 17th 2021
244
      Precisely. Just say "he sounds like a slave to me"
Mar 17th 2021
245
      LOL
Mar 17th 2021
270
      Michael Avenatti got big settlements for his clients
Mar 17th 2021
280
Umm...didn’t Tamir’s family get a $6M settlement?
Mar 17th 2021
234
not sure, and who knows if there was a
Mar 17th 2021
235
Samaria Rice's posts were heart breaking
Mar 17th 2021
236
      She says, in the same statement...
Mar 17th 2021
240
      She makes perfect sense
Mar 17th 2021
248
      It actually makes zero sense.
Mar 17th 2021
252
           Have you had a family member killed by the cops?
Mar 17th 2021
262
                You spoke truth. BLM has been doing that.
Mar 17th 2021
271
      that does make sense if you can read and you aren't a white man
Mar 17th 2021
267
      Movements are messy. This has always been the case.
Mar 17th 2021
243
      It’s unacceptable and we should finally put a stop to it nm
Mar 17th 2021
249
      people refuse to acknowledge what's going on
Mar 17th 2021
266
Tamir's mom started out by going in on the Obamas and BLM
Mar 17th 2021
237
The hate is almost hilarious.
Mar 17th 2021
238
The SK hate is also clout chasing
Mar 17th 2021
241
As a white dude with friends like this ...
Mar 17th 2021
242
LOL you just gotta change the subject
Mar 17th 2021
268
so, to recap. you won't acknowledge what anyone said
Mar 17th 2021
263
a mother who lost a child to police violence will say a lot of things
Mar 17th 2021
239
She has a pass to say whatever she want
Mar 17th 2021
246
      but you will get trolls pushing this narrative
Mar 17th 2021
247
      Wth? These people did nothing but co-opt the work of local
Mar 17th 2021
250
           I’ve been to panels with Patrisse
Mar 17th 2021
251
           These people woulda HATED MLK Jr.
Mar 17th 2021
253
           Ummm yeah
Mar 17th 2021
258
           There's a disconnect between national and local organizing.
Mar 17th 2021
255
           Yup, but the grifting is what is making people
Mar 17th 2021
260
           *sigh*
Mar 17th 2021
257
                Civil rights activism is not a path to wealth, celebrity and prosperity
Mar 18th 2021
288
           bringing National attention to local protests has somehow become co-opti...
Mar 17th 2021
254
                RE: MLK
Mar 17th 2021
256
                For sure. But we should know that history and see the pattern.
Mar 17th 2021
259
                It wasn’t always that King overshadowed their work
Mar 17th 2021
261
                     Thanks for that.
Mar 17th 2021
286
                hey, did shaun admit to taking money and wasting it or not?
Mar 17th 2021
265
      oh she has a pass from you? That's so awesome
Mar 17th 2021
269
*looks around for the people who stopped you from discussing
Mar 17th 2021
275
look at these niggas join up with a white man to be mad at black women
Mar 17th 2021
264
idk if it would be possible for me to defend a man
Mar 17th 2021
272
^^^Moderators, don't yall block conspiracy theories and spreading of ......
Mar 17th 2021
273
so is it harassment if I respond to this or.....
Mar 17th 2021
274
      Hey man, I try to avoid direct contact as much as I can but this is real...
Mar 17th 2021
276
           bro if you have the evidence drop it in her thread so it can be known
Mar 17th 2021
278
                You want evidence a conspiracy didn't happen?
Mar 17th 2021
279
                     you're done like you're going to stop interacting with me like you said
Mar 17th 2021
281
                     OKP supports the bullshit fam.
Mar 17th 2021
283
                          how much money have you given to shaun to help him defeat the fuckery
Mar 17th 2021
284
RE: idk if it would be possible for me to defend a man
Mar 17th 2021
285
      that's what she's claiming, and still claims.
Mar 17th 2021
287
The article in the original post here mentions Shaun soliciting money
Mar 17th 2021
277
it's funny that buddy doesn't want to talk about this
Mar 17th 2021
282
bought a new house in Jersey...
Aug 02nd 2021
289
This is such BS
Aug 02nd 2021
290
plus he's married
Aug 02nd 2021
294
      his wife is working on a Ph.D. or already has it
Aug 02nd 2021
295
RE: bought a new house in Jersey...
Aug 02nd 2021
291
no one would let a dailymail link slide for any other BLM activist
Aug 03rd 2021
303
      who?
Aug 05th 2021
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           what where when and why too nigga
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                cash app bro $5 for his moving fund
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He should be living in a tent city
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sick house
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BLM founder paid $3.2 million for 4 properties since founding the group...
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^^^All facts^^^
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      it's wild how the only stuff you complain about
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my issue with him isn't the house he lives in
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He really should've made this purchase privately for his own safety
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Ugh.
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      You going to extremes. Nobody says they should live in squalor
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           I don't have an issue with either of them.
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           I think Joel Olsteen's house is too big.
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                This really depends on the activist’s focus
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                     I don't like Bernie but a 70 year old man having 3 homes isn't hypocriti...
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                          But you gotta reset your baseline to the rest of America
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           what extremes? She defended both of them in her post
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cats are straight pathetic.
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He moving out the house now lol
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A black woman and her kids being harassed is funny?
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I'm praying for CIPHA's safety
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I don’t see what’s so funny. People are crazy these days
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Like I said above, they should not have used their real names
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      Exactly - the fact that it was FHA and also the fact that they
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Bout that time to write this same article again lol
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Daily Beast hates this guy
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      Haha yea I'm always underwhelmed by these articles too.
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      if you don't mind that the money sent to him, over and over again
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I remember him being BLACK during his college era...
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He’s Black
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      He always was to me
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Reeq
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1. "cant even hate on the finesse at this point."
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its the same exact story with him every time but theres never any shortage of people giving him money.

dude had celebrities coming out of the woodwork to defend him when he was getting exposed for another scam not too long ago.

meanwhile he was prolly milking them for this new scam at the same time.

dude put together a team of his own closest allies as an independent public accountability panel to examine his financial record. then posted some non binding affidavit/statement saying everything was cool.

that prolly shoulda been the end of his gravy train for anyone who applied even a little bit of common sense.

lol @ that susan sarandon tweet.

  

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9. "why doesn't he just set up a "foundation" and or LLC..."
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make someone else the head, and just work from behind?

in true arrogant grifter (whiteness) fashion he wants to be the face of his continued finess

it's weird at this point

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13. "Some people think they can do it all"
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or they are terrible at delegating authority.

Why doesn’t he just accept donations for the work he does now? I know new projects bring new energy but obviously he isn’t good at completing these projects.

Ideas are easy.. implementation and reiterating until you get it right is the hard part.

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15. "aye cool out bruh."
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wasn't responding to you

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20. "Huh? I wasn’t disagreeing with you "
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at least I didn’t think I was but whatever

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23. "lmao"
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ima start using that.

  

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26. "so many questions fam."
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the craziest part is that the more scrutiny and controversy hes attracted...the more brazen hes gotten.

i honestly wouldnt be surprised if he ended up in jail at some point. theres a lot of legal gray area to give himself some cushion with his social justice fundraising and all that stuff. but once you start talking about defrauding business investors and shit like that...its a different ballgame.

it doesnt even really get covered like everything else he does...but his political shit is outright scam territory (which is completely legal too btw).

dude uses these scam/shell pacs to raise money for candidates and the amount raised doesnt come anywhere close to contributions listed on the candidates fec reports. the balance of that money is going *somewhere* (im sure you can take a good guess). then he would take credit if that candidate won...like his organization played a large part in their campaign/gotv effort. and he would use that to raise even more money for future races.

early on he used to sucker people into giving actblue donations to candidates...but those donations were split like 50/50 with his pac when people thought they were going entirely to the candidate (completely legal but extremely dubious).

hes part of a much larger league of grifters on the left right now tho (tyt, krystal ball, etc). but thats prolly a conversation for another day.

  

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36. "But don’t PACs use some of those donations for “expenses”"
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2. "Meh... people need to stop giving him money "
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or maybe he just needs to accept donations for what he is doing right now.

He’s good at exposing stories that get little coverage.

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3. "cashing in on people's faux internet activism"
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I'm gonna be that guy right now and say there's two to tango

  

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4. "Obviously he is doing something right.."
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for people to keep donating to him.

He has a lane he just needs to stay in it instead of trying to be all things.

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6. "Can picture these folks feelin real good about themselves afterward too"
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bringin it up at dinner parties where they wax about their carbon footprints





  

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19. "yeah people who want the world to be better fucking suck man."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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5. "Shaun is absolutely trash but if you’re giving your "
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money to him at this point that’s all on you.

  

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8. "Trash? Is he really THAT bad? "
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Only time I hear bad things about him is on here when someone digs into the “money” from his activism.

and money tends to get funny anytime an “activist” gets donations.

His radio features on Steve Harvey are good tho. He usually has info on different local races involving Black candidates or policies we should know about or an injustice that didn’t make the headlines.

...so I can see why people donate based off that.

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7. "This article is written like once a year lol"
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10. "I appreciate the work that the dude is doing. "
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He seems pretty bad at running organizations. He sounds like he is Manic. He gets these big ideas, and puts a lot of energy into it at first, but then eventually mismanages it.

I don't think he is stealing money though. I think he is bad at managing money but I haven't seen anything that makes a good case that he is stealing money.


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11. "Basically. He's trying to do too much"
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And I think that's just his personality.

But he isn't stealing anything. People don't understand the meaning of the word "donation".

If you donate to a news organization, and it doesn't pan out, tough shit. Just buy a newspaper next time. Niggas been giving to the American Cancer Society for decades and cancer still aint cured.

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33. "this got me lol"
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>been giving
>to the American Cancer Society for decades and cancer still
>aint cured.

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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12. "Alladis ^^^^ "
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14. "you just said: "
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>but then eventually mismanages it.
>
>I think he is bad
>at managing money
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make it make sense ya'll!


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21. "Consistent mismanagement is stealing."
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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24. "Right. Not only that, he's said as much about himself in the past."
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So he knows it's a problem that he causes. He has a responsibility to do his part in seeeing to it that the money is managed properly and/or not stolen by him or anyoen else in his sphere.

  

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25. "yellow people can do anything for these people here"
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mofos out here calling shaun king a clumsy robin hood

I canna

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27. "'mismanagement' is being kind."
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its one thing to be a shitty executive where all of the money is misspent but accounted for.

its another thing when nobody knows where the money is going or has gone.

and its even worse when its people who worked for/with you asking the questions.

  

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28. "what work is he actually doing though"
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and even if this charitable view of him is accurate (I kinda agree with it) at some point any halfway reasonable person would stop thinking he needs to be the center of these things.

except he keeps going.

which means either he is diagnosably off the rails and cannot control himself, or he does know what he's doing and he's flimflamming.

there aren't any other explanations after it's happened so many times

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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16. "He's a victim of his own success"
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He's in a position where his wins have been very highly publicized, so his losses are going to get the same treatment.

He's failed a lot. Businessmen fail at business all the time, file multiple bankruptcies, and move on. The difference is that instead of stiffing investors with the loss, he's crowdfunding. At the end of the day, if his name wasn't associated with successful campaigns against white supremacists hen nobody would care.

I can see how it rubs people the wrong way, but the whole "he's a thief and a fraud" angle is way overplayed.

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22. "i'm here. he's elon musk but race is a tougher problem than space. "
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123. "I've been laughing at this comparison for days because "
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Elon's whole scheme is to get the government to pay out billions to make his bullshit reality.

it's accurate but not for the reason you think

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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29. "its mostly black people (especially women) calling him out."
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>At the end of the day, if his name wasn't
>associated with successful campaigns against white
>supremacists hen nobody would care.

its not like he became a lightning rod for controversy because he started challenging racism or dominant white culture.

he became controversial when he started fucking over people he was supposed to be allies with.

he was getting called out for fraudulent behavior by black people on social media before mainstream white america even really knew who he was.

i mean...he catapulted to prominence as one of the faces of the black lives matter movement...while he was being called out by the formal black lives matter organization/leadership lol.

  

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30. "According to you"
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But the truth is, dude was known well before BLM was a thing and was doing million+ dollar fundraising campaigns already.

I'll agree with you that he didn't become a lightning rod for controversy because he challenged white supremacy. He became a lightning rod because he challenged white supremacy in a tangible manner and actually produced results instead of just yelling in the streets like everybody else.

And I don't fall for the "black women and lgbtq are calling him out" dog whistle either. The whole "Black men are the white people of black people" angle is garbage too.

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31. "fam stop lol."
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pre-blm...

his most successful fundraising campaign was for haiti earthquake relief (which everybody and their mom raised a shit ton of money for).

his most successful 'venture' was a crowdsourcing platform for activism.

both were boosted as a result of oprah highlighting them (he was an oprah scholarship winner in the past) and not because of his association with them.

and oddly enough...the crowdsourcing platform had to be shut down because of...sketchy financial activity where people complained about receiving money late (if at all) and shaun king pocketed *40%* of the revenue as his take home pay.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CWW0ymeWIAAc6lg?format=png&name=900x900

  

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34. "Lmao.. so because Oprah helped him it doesn’t count? "
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35. "when did you become so annoying?"
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he claimed he was well known before blm because he raised some money.

i pointed out that he wasnt that well known before blm and raised money off the strength of oprahs endorsement.

this shouldnt have to be spelled out for you.

  

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37. "When did you become so sensitive? "
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152. "but this ain't business"
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or is it?

this is SUPPOSED to be philanthropy.....so why are there 'money issues'? Why does there APPEAR to be money issues. I know 'Wikipedia' ain't necessarily the greatest source of information but 'hear me out':

The appearance of impropriety is a phrase referring to a situation which to a layperson without knowledge of the specific circumstances might seem to raise ethics questions. For instance, although a person might regularly and reliably collect money for her employer in her personal wallet and later give it to her employer, her putting it in her personal wallet may appear improper and give rise to suspicion, etc. It is common practice in the business and legal communities to avoid even the appearance of impropriety.

when you white...or look white and 'things' start going wrong when you appear to be 'helping black people'...you gotta have your shit together


and to brag about how you didn't listen to people with experience about taking the wrong approach WITH PHILANTHROPY....NOT BUSINESS..is just fucking stupid.

so even if there are no 'facts', a lotta y'all still in here capin' for this nxgga.


thass a bad look. thass 'opp shit'

but go off.

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153. "RE: but this ain't business"
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Yes it is business. (And I shoulda stopped reading after that "when you're white" comment, because its incredibly stupid)

But, #1 many of these ventures have been business, and #2 philanthropy, even in its purest form, has business aspects. People work for these philanthropic campaigns and get paid. There's not 1 legitimate charity that doesn't have a percentage of funds go to administration, and if they say then you shouldn't trust them.



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154. "incredibly stupid is cool"
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the optics are the optics and you can thank Amerika for that.


and #2 philanthropy, even in its purest form, has business aspects.
^^^ and you assume a layperson knows this? This is why people are upset. You do understand that that's not how common people think, if that were the case why would we have #45


YOU my friend are incredibly stupid. SO how's Shaun King's dick taste?

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156. "RE: incredibly stupid is cool"
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>YOU my friend are incredibly stupid. SO how's Shaun King's
>dick taste?

The fact that the most vocal voices in this post who are on this side of the debate have to stoop to this is a clear indication of the level of thinking of the people who fall for these kinds of attack tactics.

You're right. That's how we got Trump.

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157. "incredibly stupid is insulting"
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you don't have to talk to ME like that, cuh.


I don't give a F--- really about SK. My point was 'can we at least all agree that having "problematic philanthropy issues" is problematic in itself and apparently no.

This is the world we have wrought through compromising values and double-talk.

I assumed you were higher minded but you called me incredibly stupid in defense of a mothafucka that aint doing shxt for YOU personally.

even me inviting you to his frank stand is pause-worthy.

shoutout to eclipsedInI and RJCC.....

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159. "I meant it to be insulting"
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And I'm not higher minded. Like Michelle Obama said, When they go low, fuck you.

It was stupid as fuck.

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160. "^ Shaun's wife. "
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IG: amadu_me

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17. "There are too many people with stories like this:"
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https://twitter.com/clarissambrooks/status/1265172095182479361?s=21

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18. "You mean ol girl who accused him of theft publicly?"
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Then when he got at her about it she deleted the tweet but claimed he was "bullying" her?

Wasn't no bullying when you was using your platform to call dude a thief, and if she had proof or really believed it then she shoulda stood on it.

I just don't respect that. Ya'll can, but I don't.

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32. "ok shaun's wife"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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40. "That's such a terrible example to cite though. "
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A person with no visibility called him a thief, and instead of letting it ride he went HARD back at her and threatened to sue her.

He didn't have to go that hard but if you got accused recklessly of committing a crime you did not commit, I think you are well within your rights to fight back including threatening to sue.

Twitter is full of people who love to throw rocks and then hide their hand, I could see getting fed up and fighting back.

The girl tried to pop off with him and cried victim once he fought back. Not a good example of dude being terrible.


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41. "."
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Thu May-28-20 02:07 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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45. "you would think so"
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that's the kind of behavior you get down with.

not popping off at any number of wealthy people who would actually do something to you, who've said the exact same thing, but going after a black woman.

that's something you can understand doing.

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64. "What is it you told that black woman here again?"
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Was it "B*tch Get Back in the Kitchen"?

You the only one here who has a track record of personally attacking black women so stop projecting.



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67. "remember how you know you're full of shit so you have to change "
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the subject?

imagine being such a loser like you.

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38. "A million m'fers shitting on one dude trying"
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If the same million people tried for something that mattered...I had a dream.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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39. "Like dude said.. it’s an annual thing"
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I wonder if it’s always after a high profile case he helped get national attention.

Seems like anytime he and the other dude with the bubble vest get exposure (what happened to THAT guy?) a story gets posted about how shady they are with money.

Other dude kinda disappeared after he got that last gig.

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44. "I'm not above cherrypicking personality traits"
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I also choose which stories I invest in.
The last accusation round included Yvette Nicole Brown, who I usually like, so I paid attention. Then King released the investigation *he had done* but I went along with it, accepted what was presented and choose to support him doing his thing. I haven't sent him money though and that's his problem in the future when/if he decides to return to that well.
Overall, I appreciate what I see him doing and I'm running out of patience with the zest people have for running folks out of town. I prefer activism to quests for perfection.
Also, I think Talcum X is funny.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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48. "who is questing for perfection?"
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by his own account, none of the projects he's run have been executed to any level of success.

so....what's there to argue for in his favor?

it's not he said / they said

he's told you that the stuff he launched failed and failed because he mismanaged it. do you believe him or not?

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42. "I don't bag on Shaun for two reasons"
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1. Dude is clearly doing good work, more work than I am doing and way more than a lot of the people who are criticizing him.

2. Of all the people who are critical of him, it's never the people who he has actively raised funds for.

Dude seems like he is bi-polar and terrible to work with and for so It doesn't shock me that those people are complaining about him, but those still aren't the people who he is advocating for.

I appreciate the dude for the good he does, know I wouldn't want to work for him and I wouldn't invest money with him not because I think he is a thief but because I think he is a terrible manager.

It ain't that hard.
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43. "which work is he doing again?"
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46. "He's done some great work in IDing Supremacists post-Charlottesville"
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If he stayed in the tracking down wrongdoers lane he might have been alright. But he 1. Fucked that up already once 2. Jumps out of that lane because it's harder to monetize than say a media fiefdom.

It's fascinating watching people justify shit his shit on here. You get everything from victim-blaming to selective outrage to just outright denial.

And the idea that if only the people calling him out were doing the work is ridiculous since the people calling him out are often people actually doing the fucking work.

If Shaun was Shauna this place would be shitting down their throat.

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47. "and that's the thing"
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everybody who I know is doing the work....keeps saying "that guy didn't do shit with us even though he claims he did"

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50. "Everybody is doing the work?"
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Here is a list of the folks he has raised money and awareness for:

https://medium.com/@shaunkingfinancialreivewboard/shaun-king-financial-report-318661d97125

Now of course the retort is he worked with the people on the panel (so now Lee Merritt and Benjamin Crump are in on the fix?), but nevertheless there are dollar amounts and the people and orgs that he has claimed to raise the money for.

So my analsyis of Shaun is easy: Do any of the people who he claim he has raised money for have any claim that he stole money from them?

So far, the answer is no. If you show me that's the case, I will change my mind. I really don't have a stake in this.

It sounds like all his business ventures go to shit so investors may be pissed but on the fundraising side I have not seen the case made that he has stolen money from the people he is purporting to help. So yeah, that's why I say he is doing the work.


So yeah dude sounds like a jackass to work for, a terrible business person and manager, an annoying bernie bro but he has shined a spotlight on a bunch of police brutality cases we might not have heard of and raised a lot of money for those victims so that's why I am glad he is doing the work he is doing. Again, happy to have my mind changed with solid evidence.

But back to this everyone is doing the work? Who? name some names. You?

Now,



I am not really a huge Shaun King fan. If it turns out he stole money, I'll change my opinion.



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52. "see it's funny how you provide your own debunk and dismiss it"
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based on whatever bullshit you think matters

....while ignoring that the $34 million figure in the report you linked to has already been debunked


King took credit for a bunch of fundraisers he didn't have anything to do with and only claims he promoted...except other people promoted them too.

but he took credit for all the money brought in and now wants credit for not stealing it.


LOL

you want to support that guy, do it.

but don't lie like a fuckin loser

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53. "I posted a link to the red cross, so any money the red cross raised"
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and that I didn't steal

is officially belonging to me.

there. I outraised shaun king

give me your money.

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54. "congratulations on not reading the article in the very first post."
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63. "I figured you can't read, here is the simple challenge to prove it."
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Point to one place where the article I posted contradicts what I said.

Just cut and paste it and you win. So easy to do.

Again, I ask where is the evidence that Shaun King is stealing money? Where is it in the article?

You pivot the argument to it about him stealing CREDIT for campaigns that he worked on but that is not the same as arguing he actually stole money (BTW, the medium article covers all campaigns he raised money for, it doesn't say he is solely responsible for raising the money). Also, how do you steal money from a campaign you actually didn't work on? Seems like you can't argument both.



Anyway, the challenge is simple. point to one single cause or non-proift that he raised money for that claim that he stole money from them. Again, I don't mind changing my mind, I just haven't seen the case made yet.

I kind of want you to be right on this one because I want to be sure you have more than basic reading comprehension skills.

Prove me wrong. I am pulling for you.



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65. "I didn't accuse him of doing that."
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but you can't read and don't know that
you just know shaun has gone after black women and you love that shit because you're a fuckin loser

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71. "See how these fuckin liars operate?"
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"I didn't accuse him of stealing, I just pointed you to an article that lobs vague accusations of him stealing so now I can run from my own bullshit instead of having any facts to back my assertions"

*edited to add in the "fuckin"

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72. "which article did I point you to mrs. shaun king?"
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74. "post 54 where you congratulate dude for not read THE ARTICLE"
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And that Ms. King stuff don't bother me but it certainly shows you have no substance in your argument so, by all means, please continue.

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75. "yes, I congratulated him."
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on not reading the article in the post.

I didn't point him to it or even suggest that his illiterate ass should read it.

look mrs. king. I know you're upset. but if you could just accuse me of something I've actually done that would be great.

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76. "It's honestly disappointing that you're an adult"
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77. "not even one claim about anything I've actually said or done."
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73. "tell me more about my assertions. also, how's shaun, mrs. king?"
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68. "this has not been true about shaun king"
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"he has shined a spotlight on a bunch of police brutality cases we might not have heard of"

he hasn't been the person exposing these

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78. "Loser, even the OP Article critical of King acknowleges this. SMH. "
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Literally from the very critical article that started this discussion:


"It’s well documented that King—one of Bernie Sanders’ most prominent surrogates in both 2016 and 2020—has used his social media platforms to garner national headlines for stories of racial injustice that would likely have otherwise been neglected or ignored."


Just once, support what you say with some facts.



>"he has shined a spotlight on a bunch of police brutality
>cases we might not have heard of"
>
>he hasn't been the person exposing these
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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79. "oh, so you did read it. and you just ignored the parts you didn't like"
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so you could repost the already debunked claim about what money he's raised which you knew was false because you're a lying piece of shit.

thanks for admitting that!

now, about the claim. nowhere in the article does it say he was the only one or the first one to bring those cases up. he wasn't.



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49. "RE: which work is he doing again?"
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He put together a system/Team/Network that made 428,000 phone calls YESTERDAY re: the Floyd murder. 428,000 calls in 1 day.

Now, you can choose to not believe him, sure. But to pretend he hasn't done anything and isn't still doing it means you're either being purposely obtuse or disingenuous.

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51. "...says shaun king's wife"
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55. "I'd deflect too if I held your position. "
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56. "....says shaun king's wife"
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57. ": / "
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LOL

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81. "exactly. it's never the damn near 50 families that say he helped them"
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it's just goofy ass twitter chicks and the simps who support their ridiculous hysterics about someone they don't like, because they know someone who knows someone who the dude "wronged" (whether it's firing or closing up shop on an org they started together)

meanwhile, deray get a pass for showing up in b-more and landing a 6-gure job in the school system outta nowhere, just to sit behind a desk in that stupid ass vest and ignore phone calls, shuffle papers and play solitaire. AND he ran a bogus ass mayoral campaign and got a huge donation from the CEO of netflix. where that money go? WHO KNOWS! do the idiots on twitter begging white libs to stop supporting the dude care? nah, because deray one of them.

simp ass niggas in here crying because shaun hustle harder. YEAH, HE SCAMMING, NIGGA! SO WHAT! Al just gave himself a $200K raise from the National Action Network. what EXACTLY is he doing that's more EFFECTIVE than what Shaun is doing? NOTHING! so shut your dumb asses up.

The game is the fucking game. you can profit off black tragedy while fighting to bring justice to the victims of it. That's been a part of our story since EVER (leaving the "for" off that muhfucka, it's been so long). if you ain't know that, you just a dumb ass nigga. STOP FUCKING CRYING!

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58. "I'll say this, I know a few well known activists who are on TV all the t..."
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and run/own their own companies/campaigns etc.

When shaun first started his rise, the community was welcoming, and then widespread went on alert

I've been told very specific things that concerned many people

besides religion/activism/politics can cover the biggest charlatans.

But ya'll defend old boy like he will protect you from white supremacy if ya'll want.

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59. "So...you know people"
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and people have told you things?

Damn, my bad. I was unaware of this bombshell evidence. I retract all of my statements.

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61. "Lmao.. maybe he donated to King and feels burned"
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I just don’t see why there is this much hate for him but like I’ve previously said.. Shaun King has access to some big platforms so I can see why people despise him.

Also, I think every activist that becomes a household name will have a few stories that follow them around or people who have felt like they didn’t get the credit they deserved.

Twitter activist seem to get scrutinized the moment they get some buzz.

I’m not that invested in him personally. I think it was actually the Tom Joyner Show where he had a segment during the morning commute. So he is well known by a segment of the Black pop that prolly doesn’t give a shit about Twitter rants.

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69. "see how these fuckin liars operate"
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nobody is "hating" anybody.

dude told you he's incompetent and you refuse to believe him because you like people who attack black women just that much.




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70. "not like you do since you're his wife"
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82. "someone on this very board warned us of deray during his rise, too"
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but that nigga ain't as good at activism or separating white libs from their money as Shaun, so niggas ain't crying about his pockets

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84. "And, let's be honest, he's gay"
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So there's no currency of "he's attacking women & lgbtq people!" to trade in. But that dude was blatantly selling his tweets to businesses while pretending he wasn't.

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85. "oh., FOfuckingSHO, that's MOST of it. but he just in that clique"
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87. "LOL. "
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if only y'all sucked dick so you could be popular too.

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60. "To The Detractors: Who Then?"
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I'm not as aggressive with my support as some of y'all are with aggressively tearing him down - so who is doing the work you approve of?
I appreciate Rev Al, but I can acknowledge Rev Al has some issues.

Simply tearing down someone doing work is stupid to me, so who deserves support?
Who's worthy?

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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62. "That could get messy "
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fuck around and have all these activist getting audited.

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80. "people who collect and distribute money should probably be looked into"
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and they should be transparent.


and they shouldn't claim that when an organization raises 20 million, they were responsible for the whole 20 million because they posted about it.

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66. "LOL. literally anyone else"
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88. "I think our difference is I want Black people to win"
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I don't know you, but your energy feels like the white nationalist agitators that post antagonistically on The Root or any page with an ankh.

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97. "because I agree with shaun king that he's incompetent?"
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I can't want it for him more than he does

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98. "Because you still haven't offered an alternative"
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You're tearing down without offering to step up or provide someone else doing the work King is doing. You brushed past the opportunity when the question was presented, so your perspective would leave Black people with less, and I'm not into that.
You can do that "watch the world burn" shit, but since part of your Joker plan is tearing down someone I see actually helping Black people, I will provide the balance.

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104. "LOL. you don't know anyone else?"
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you gotta be lying.

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105. ""watch the world burn""
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or....just give money to other people.



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83. "Reeq, don't go out like RJCC. Make the case. "
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Just share one article with causes/orgnizations who Shaun King has raised donations for, who say that Shaun King stole money from them.

You got Tamir Rice, Mike Brown, Botham Jean and Ahmaud Arbery just to name some of the bigger causes. If any of those folks or the other families he raised money for spoke out against him, I think he'd be done. It just hasn't happen as far as I can see.

Even the OP article, despite the headline, doesn't really give evidence of him stealing cash. He didn't collect a ton of money and not do anything. Even the article characterizes it as overly ambitious and poorly managed, not criminal misuse of funds (where is the mentions of extravagant spending on himself?)

Again, I don't have a horse in the race but the good stuff is visible and all the bad stuff is innuendo and heresy. I have spent enough time on twitter and see twitter will sh*t on anybody. Try to say good things about Martin Luthor King and you will get a significant amount of people saying terrible things about him. So for a guy who LIVES on twitter, it's not that surprising to me he has so many twitter detractors.

So again. Just share one article with non-profit causes who Shaun King has raised donations for, who say that Shaun King stole money from them. It shouldn't be that hard if he is that terrible.

BTW, I spent the last day googling trying to see what was out there that I was missing and I'll throw the SK haters a bone and share this article:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/05/05/online-activists-raised-60k-for-tamir-rices-family-so-where-did-all-that-money-go/

This article sounds bad because Timothy Kucharski, the families initial lawyer came at Shaun King. But when you dig a little deeper you learn that (a) The family fired Kucharski and hired Benjamin Crump and (b) Crump is working pro-bono and Kucharski has a plea to get money out of the estate for legal fees. In other words, the person who has accused SK of wrongdoing, is actually at odds with the family...over money.

https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2015/05/05/funds-raised-for-rice-family-get-caught-in-legal-morass-new-fundraising-effort-under-way

Reeq you a smart dude I am trying to see if you can make the case beyond "a lot of people say he's a crook" that no one here has been able to make so far.

Open to have my mind changed.










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86. "thank you for admitting you're a liar."
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I like it when I call you a liar, but I like it better when you admit it.

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89. "Like Clockwork, Shaun King grifting in Minneapolis:"
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https://twitter.com/blackvisionsmn/status/1266163556292182017?s=21

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90. "I donated to them yesterday because I have discernment"
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Somehow I haven't seen Shaun post anything about donations in Minnesota, but here's the shade.
At this point, this shit is pushing me towards supporting him more (spiritually before financially).
Also it doesn't help when the replies turn to indicting the entirety of Bernie support, when Bernie's - nevermind, I'll stay on topic.

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92. "I’m hesitant to donate to any fund besides a fund for the family"
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93. "In case you want actual information"
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https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/
I didn't do a forensic accounting, but I felt OK donating through this site.

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94. "Thx"
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91. "Looks like grifters name dropping"
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All these people seem a bit shady asking for donations right now.

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95. "so, to be clear"
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Somebody made a tweet that said "hey, don't send money to somebody else, send to us instead." But, that person isn't the grifter?

Show me one instance of Shaun King telling people not to send their financial support to another activist. Just one.

And, what is this even based on? When did SK say he was on the ground in MN or in contact with local orgs? They literally just used that dude's name to drum up hate support for their org. And here's the kicker, this is the org ya'll are donating to out of spite:

https://minnesotafreedomfund.org/team

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96. "Yo... lmao. "
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People so quick to dump on SK they didn’t do the research.

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99. "didn't they say "donate to this group?""
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I saw the tweet, if that's the one being talked about. they only told people a trusted org to donate to, and it wasn't them, it was actually a legit org.

p.s., I'm not debating SK or anything else, just trying to clarify what you said.

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102. "It's 2 different groups but they're affiliated"
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In fact if you go to the Minnesota Freedom Fund site they have a link to donate to BLVC on their homepage.

And if you go to the BLVC page you see basically nothing except for an extremely vague mission (with some coded language about "ALL" black lives) and a video mostly of niggas dancing in slow motion.

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103. "The other groups web page was extremely light on content"
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But who knows.. maybe they are doing good work.

Kind of hard to verify IMO.

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100. "Where is the Shaun King tweet/solicitation they are referencing?"
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101. "Yeah.. looks like they name dropped to get some momentum"
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I scrolled to see if there was a link to his attempt but didn’t see anything.

but you see it worked cause dude ran in here quick to bash SK.

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138. "link:"
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https://www.facebook.com/shaunking/photos/a.799605230078397/3184321801606716/?type=1&theater

he's been promoting and deleting or switching platforms because scrutiny was following him

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106. "WE NEED ALL HANDS ON DECK!!!!"
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i just wanted to say that

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107. "posting for balance:"
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https://www.thenorthstar.com/shaun-king-setting-the-record-straight-on-the-accusations-made-about-me-my-fundraisers-and-the-north-star/

People are entrenched on their side of this debate, so it likely won't change anything, but this is his rebuttal.

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108. "I mean, twitter has people telling folks to not give to the NAACP"
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https://twitter.com/spacecowbot

An unknown person with 1K followers makes a tweet badmouthing the NAACP making a claim that is clearly contradicted by the clip she shared (the very first line of the shared statement is "we must protest") and she gets 10x the shares and likes.

The very nature of twitter is support this venerable civil rights org will get no likes but badmouthing that same org will go viral.

Luckily the NAACP does not live by twitter the way Sean King seems to.



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110. "It's obvious this shit stems from some high school-level activist beef"
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the fact that these families KEEP involving him and they all subsequently thank him and say they got their money and value his support should be enough for those of us who claim to be unbiased.

i just can't understand people giving any value to the hysterical rantings of crazy chicks in twitter who have no proof. that ol' horseshit "where's there's smoke" strategy gotta have a payoff sooner or later. otherwise, you look like a bitter asshole who never has proof.

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111. "LOL."
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always angry about someone on twitter.

usually a woman.

there's a story there.


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114. "it is consistently the same goofy chicks you simp for"
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it ain't different woman, dogg.

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116. "LOL"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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117. "I know man, it sucks that nobody knows who you are and no one cares"
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that shit must really eat at you.



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109. "Unfortunately this doesn’t matter "
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SK has a direct pipeline to Bernie and to a ton of celebs when it comes to donations and support and people can’t stand it.

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112. "isn't the north star the site shaun king ran into the ground "
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via his self-admitted mismanagement?



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113. "it's very weird that people accuse shaun of being bad at organizing"
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and his rebuttal is his picture of when he was beaten up years ago

and also thank you for posting this, to show that his official rebuttal contains the $34.5 million figure that we all know is complete horseshit.

you can't argue that dude is honest while he is still taking credit for money he didn't raise. so now that you have posted information confirming that he's untrustworthy I think we're done here.

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115. ""helped" raise really got y'all upset, huh?"
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but your faves always crying about signal-boosting being WORK they should be compensating for.

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118. "who are my faves again?"
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119. "He's not upset, it's just his weak "pivot""
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The "SK is a thief" angle wasn't working very well.

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120. "show me where I ever said he was a thief."
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since you're claiming I pivoted.

you can't, and you won't admit it because you're a liar.

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121. "So he don't steal, raise money, or do any real work?"
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Why you so mad at him?

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122. "is this your weak pivot away from claiming I made a weak pivot?"
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address the accusation you made.

you claimed that calling him a thief wasn't working for me so I changed tactics.


that was not true. all you have to do is say that you made a mistake or, idk, maybe you just felt like lying. but stick to your point.



as far as what I've actually said....I said it already. over and over. it's the same thing shaun says. you should be arguing with him, not me.

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124. "You're a joke and you think this contrarian socratic bullshit works"
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But it don't. You're not intelligent.

The whole post is about dude supposedly stealing and you're in here heavy shitting on him but you think by not committing to an accusation you're outsmarting us.

You say it in post 53. You said if you posted a link to the Red Cross and DIDN'T STEAL THE MONEY then you raised more than SK.

So, go play with children with this elementary bullshit.

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125. "it's "contrarian socratic bullshit" to accuse someone of pivoting"
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when they change the subject?

you did it.

you were incorrect.

now you're trying to umbrella me under some idea that whatever you think the post is about, is now my stance even though I've said what my stance is.

so congratulations, by your standard, everyone in this post has accused shaun king of being a thief. now you can stop arguing against me and shaun who agree that he's incompetently mismanaged funds, and start yelling at yourself for accusing shaun king of being a thief.

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127. "^^^LOL. Stop dude. "
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The goal post moving is clear in the post. This post was not about SK stealing shine. You've guys pivoted to that when yall failed to provide a single person who he raised funds for that claim that he stole from them.

But we can play by your new goal post. Share one organization/party that SK raised money for that complained about him "stealing credit". (Even the Raices 20M fundraiser the complaint is coming not from the org, but from other fundraisers.)


And I am not even arguing he is NOT a glory hound, but I don't think you can find the recipients of his campaigns as mad at him as you think they are. Here is another chance for an easy win for you.

Pulling for you. You sounds like you need a win.



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128. "show where the goal post moved."
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you can't and you won't, and you know why.

give shaun your money so he can mismanage it again.

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129. "this is such bizarre bullshit"
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"But we can play by your new goal post. Share one organization/party that SK raised money for that complained about him "stealing credit"."


I haven't set this as any goal post.

I said shaun ran his organizations into the ground. which is what shaun also admits.

you don't want to talk about that and you know why you don't.

who are you even quoting about "stealing credit"? Are those words I used? do you know how quotation marks work? Are you furious?

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134. "buddy pivoted away from this conversation real fast"
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when I pointed out that stuff he put in quotation marks wasn't anything I've said.

idk if this qualifies as socratic method or not, but the pivots keep spinning

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142. "as soon as buddy realized he fucked up here he ran away LOL"
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149. "he argues exactly like them corny, hysterical, no account twitter chicks"
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all they do is make impassioned pleas for niggas to blindly support their agendas against whoever they hate and then they get made when you got follow up questions. shit is pathetic.

nigga need to brush his gums and hair.

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150. "this is a boldfaced lie, you know and I know that no one gets mad at you"
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they just ignore you.

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126. "....I guess you can't read good?"
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the comparison between me and shaun king is very clearly being made that we both posted the link and we both didn't steal the money.

that's why we both take credit for it.

we did the same thing. the not stealing.

jesus christ you can't fucking read you dumb motherfucker

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130. "You think what your saying here (or in #53) makes sense?"
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131. "if you want to lie and claim you misread it"
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you can't pretend to have read it and then pretend that you thought I was accusing him of doing something, when it literally says we did the same thing.

or, I guess you can, if you want to admit you can't read at a third grade level.

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132. "Yeah no. It's not clear to me what you are trying to say and it sounds ..."
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you are implying he is stealing in your hypothetical.

You aren't being as clear as you think you are.


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133. "so am I also implying that he didn't post a link?"
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because I said I posted a link. and I said I didn't steal money


according to the claim you're making about your reading


anything I said about myself is also somehow a claim that shaun king did the opposite. so if I'm implying that he stole money....then I'm also implying he didn't post the link.

continue exposing the fact that you're full of shit and you can't read.

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135. "Anyone care to translate what RJCC is trying to say here?"
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136. "I know bb, it's hard to read when you're illiterate."
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137. "remember 5 posts ago when you made up quotes and pretended I said them"
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140. "You are do that thing where you are responding 3 to 1. "
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relax dude. I never said I was quoting you. I was trying to emphasize that you have pivoted from accusing him of stealing cash to stealing something else, credit. I would have bolded or italicized if these boards would allow for that.


I can see how that's unclear but that's what you are down to, quibbling over grammar?

Take the L and move on dude.

I'm out. Say what you have to say to get the last word but you haven't shown where he steals money, you haven't shown where the recepients are mad at him for stealing credit and no one buys that you've been arguing all along that he runs orgs into the ground.

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141. "oh, you were quoting words you made up"
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because you're a liar.

and you don't want to address the lies you told.

k.

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158. "Your dumbness is a product of thinking that you are smarter than you"
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actually are.


It seems like this quotation mark thing is the last hill you have left to stand on but you don't seem to understand that quotation marks have other uses beside direct quotes.

I'll admit, this is my mistake of thinking you had a better grasp of language and grammar than you actually do. My bad. I'll try and keep is simple for you in the future.



>because you're a liar.
>
>and you don't want to address the lies you told.
>
>k.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


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161. "you're right, I should've read your post"
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and decided that whatever you said actually implied the opposite about someone else.

because that's what words and quotation marks mean.

I'm not implying that you're a lying, illiterate shitbag who can't use logic, I'm saying it explicitly.

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164. "I acknowledged in #140 it was unclear and clarified, and you are still "
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going on and on about grammar because that's all you got left in this post and you are a sad sad troll.

Come on man. You have got to be better than this man. Haven't you outgrown this shit? By now you should have wife and kids, and you still devote so much energy to being a troll?

Sad.

Be better.



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167. "cool, so we agree I didn't say anything you have a problem with"
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idk what the issue is then

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139. "ya'll are just arguing with RJCC or charachterizations of Shaun King"
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and not the actual merits of what social justice reform and activism accountability should be about.

If you've actually been in the work and in the trenches you know where there is smoke there is fire. Because these causes are passionate causes that effect peoples very lives and livelihoods.

this isn't the preacher driving a Benz while the building fund ain't fix the hot water in the church. Activism can not and does not, and will not let hucksters thrive without being held accountable

which is why you see folks like Shaun king and Deray continuously being checked

accountability

And when they prove to the community that they are accountable and trustworthy, we move on

there's a reason why Shaun can't move on from these accusations.

Accountability is not hate

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143. "no one is arguing with me about anything I've actually said."
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they just want to be mad.

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144. "Your vague idioms aint doing shit for black people"
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and RJCCs circuitous bullshit isn't either.

You know what is? Shaun King, and none of the families have ever warned us about any smoke or fire. So, until then, I ride for SK over yall.

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146. "LOL"
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look at these motherfuckers sticking their fingers in their ears

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145. "Seems like SK moves on just fine"
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Wasn’t he with Rhianna and Bernie on stages a little while back?

some people on twitter haven’t moved on tho.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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147. "What you are saying is nonsense. "
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>and not the actual merits of what social justice reform and
>activism accountability should be about.
>
>If you've actually been in the work and in the trenches you
>know where there is smoke there is fire. Because these causes
>are passionate causes that effect peoples very lives and
>livelihoods.


The idea where there is smoke there is fire is used to discredit everyone single person, organizations that takes on the establishment.

You will find negative chatter on twitter regarding everyone. BLM, NAACP, Martin Luther King, Malcolm X, Angela Davis. Everyone. Disinformation campaigns is the tactic du jour used to tear down prominent black people. I mean if you look at SK twitter half the people coming at him are Alt-Righty white people. These are the people you align yourself with you make baseless claims. Shit, Trump won the White House using these sort of disinformation tactics.


It is not accountability to make baseless claims. It's regular toxic ass twitter.




>
>this isn't the preacher driving a Benz while the building fund
>ain't fix the hot water in the church. Activism can not and
>does not, and will not let hucksters thrive without being held
>accountable
>
>which is why you see folks like Shaun king and Deray
>continuously being checked
>
>accountability
>
>And when they prove to the community that they are accountable
>and trustworthy, we move on

Good grief get over yourself. Who are you that anyone has to prove themselves to? What is the work that you have done that people should be proving themselves to you?

The only people SK has to prove himself to are the people he raised money for. That's it. You are not hte gatekeeper of activism. SMH.



>
>there's a reason why Shaun can't move on from these
>accusations.


And this is it. Innuendo. Answer the question. Why can't Shuan move on from these accusations?


You have yet to be able to give the name of a single person or cause who says that he has defunded them but instead you drop innuendo like this and hide your hand. Again, it's very Trump like disinformation to say "well a lot of people are saying...". Say it. or give names of people who are saying it. But this innuendo stuff is weak.

This post and responses have been a microcosm on how twitter works.

>
>Accountability is not hate

I think this issue gets under my skin because twitter folks swear they are doing real work chattering online to each other. I just finished a fundraiser and it is hard AF to get people to give and it really is work. I see my friends who work for LDF and ACLU and making gains and a twitter nobody can come on a take a shot at those orgs and that's what goes viral, partly because bad actors amplify that message.

So if I had to chose to listen to the person who can point to their work versus the nameless people without receipts or names who work by innuendo....


>


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148. "it's funny that buddy acts like nobody else raises money"
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155. ""When theres smoke, theres fire"="Many people are talking abt..(c) Trump..."
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Until the Feds come knocking, or people he has actually raised money for allege impropriety, this all seems like innuendo.

Like people trying to bust into the crowded activist fundraising space themselves by trying to take out the competition

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162. "BLM gonna be on the Summer Jam screen next:"
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https://twitter.com/fkaLuna_/status/1270869648133808

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163. "gone. what was it?"
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165. "Think I posted the link wrong"
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https://twitter.com/fkaLuna_/status/1270869648133808134

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166. "People just creating bogus BLM chapters and caking up? "
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168. "no, they're going at the leadership, not the local chapters"
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169. "I think this is the tweet with information"
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https://twitter.com/brownblaze/status/1270044318456180736

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170. "Good. expose any grifters, but keep the movement moving"
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anybody who is trying to come up without putting in a any work needs to go. This is not a movement lead by national organizations anyway. You might be able to find an exception or two, but the vast majority of protests and organizing has been at the local level. So fuck anyone willing to risk discrediting that so that they can get paid for being a #BLMInfluencer.

#BLM as a movement is a good and positive thing. I appreciate that people are asking questions about orgs who are taking money. I don't even care if someone comes up a bit (This is America), if they can point to the good they're doing and anything they've helped build to support the movement beyond tweets and followers. I'm not down with any BLM org trying to be some kind of opaque money box.

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171. "& now Breonna Taylor in Kentucky:"
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https://twitter.com/lesliemac/status/1271233629499412481?s=21

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172. "He really upsets you.. lol"
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174. "Except"
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He sent out an email on June 4 saying volunteers through his platform had made 28,000 calls to Louisville officials urging them to pass the law.

The way his platform works is that when people sign petitions then automatically generate phone calls to specified officials.

So, while he wasn't on the ground, he was working on that effort. And he said "We" made it happen. So, I don't know why dude gets the rep for trying to take credit for things when it seems like its really these other people that want to get all the credit.

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175. "and then there's this:"
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https://twitter.com/DrSMadhosingh/status/1271723135990104064

sooo......yeah

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176. "and this: "
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https://twitter.com/ThisCharminManc/status/1271647437015314432

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177. "why not link to shaun king's instagram?"
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instead of linking to some anonymous rando's tweet of a screenshot of his instagram.


that's a bizarre thing to do

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178. "Because I posted links from the same Twitter stream"
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that contained the accusation. Also, I don't follow SK on IG. That's where I follow "models".

At any rate, you didn't have to go far to see that this kind of bullshit has absolutely no legs to stand on, and nobody will come in here and defend it after reading the rebuttal.

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180. "well, if shaun king says so and someone else screencaps it"
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but don't mind me, you probably have a full schedule of commenting on model's IG pics with tongue emoji or some shit

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181. "You mistyped. You meant if the sponsor of the actual legislation says so..."
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Good thing I was here to fix it for you.

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184. "no, I typed correctly."
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179. "Are you all really this uncritical of things you read on twitter?"
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I don't know Leslie Mac, but her tweet is demonstrably false on the face of it after 2 minutes of google searching. Google "Breonna" and "Shaun King" and you immediate find this:

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2020/05/14/breonna-taylor-what-know-louisville-emt-killed-police/5189743002/

where you find this:

"Though Taylor was killed nearly two months ago, her case gained national attention recently after prominent activist Shaun King posted about her story on social media. Since then, Taylor's family has hired civil rights attorney Benjamin Crump, who is also representing the family of Ahmaud Arbery, a 25-year-old black man who was shot and killed by two white men in Georgia in late February. "

So based on a major news source (and not a tweet of some person on twitter), I see that SK is seen as having brought a national spotlight to the story. TBH, I am fairly certain I first heard about the case because he tweeted about it. I also see that the lawyer representing the family is Benjamin Crump, who of course works closely with SK.


Then I google "the Action Pac" and "Breonna" and I get no other than Beyonce driving people to SK's Action Pac's efforts to support Breonna by signing a petition and fundraising.

https://thehill.com/changing-america/enrichment/arts-culture/502820-beyonce-writes-to-kentucky-ag-demanding-justice-for

That would be enough to make me skeptical to retweet or circulate the idea that SK had nothing to do with passing the law.

But then of course, we learn it's completely not true when we learn Counsel Woman Barbara Sexton Smith cited SK Action Pac's grassroots project as making 154k calls and being responsible for the law's passage as well.


So we now have seen again, like the 3 time in this post, the criticism comes not from the family of the survivor, OR even the main organizations supporting them (Leslie Mac mentions BLM-Louisville but that org isn't criticizing SK), but rather the complaint is coming from some outsider .


On some level< I understand why Local activist get pissed off when he swoops in on a local story and gets all the national attention/glory but it seems to me that's a fair tradeoff to get national attention on a local story. At any rate, the families seem grateful.

But what I don't understand is why outsiders (Leslie Mac BTW, is BK based), have such a personal axe to grind that they activately hurting black causes. Because when you all make baseless claims without any details on social media, other people who don't do their own research listen and decide not to give to such black causes. like here:

https://twitter.com/antonina_js/status/1271745864747360256

https://twitter.com/meghscase/status/1271568224296087553

https://twitter.com/El_Suspendido_1/status/1271638059541565440

This is just as bad as the girl on twitter telling people not to give to the NAACP.

Y'all should quit.


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182. "she's one of them twitter chicks i referred to earlier. irrational"
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she got that simp appeal. non-fact-based hysterical appeals to niggas eager to prove they love they sistas.

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186. "I love that you jumped off the top rope to claim irrational"
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based on an account that appears to be factually inaccurate

lol



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183. "you said blm louisville isn't criticizing king"
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but this tweet is prominently and clearly retweeted on their timeline

https://twitter.com/zumayabooks/status/1271960013934821376

so is this one
https://twitter.com/BridgetMarie/status/1271491248990441477

and this one
https://twitter.com/BLMLouisville/status/1271444054753054721

and this one

https://twitter.com/DMVBlackLives/status/1271431122258403328

and this one

https://twitter.com/BLMLouisville/status/1271419186447822848


again, this one

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185. ""(Leslie Mac mentions BLM-Louisville but that org isn't criticizing SK)""
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BLM Louisville: retweets Leslie Mac adding: "NOTHING to do with!!!!"
https://twitter.com/BLMLouisville/status/1271419186447822848


you either did not read or you lied, I don't know which.



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187. "BLM Louisville back in May:"
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https://twitter.com/BLMLouisville/status/1258469274760499201

"Can you delete this one? We don't fuck with Shaun King"

is this the organization that you said isn't criticizing him?

because...

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188. "do I have the wrong twitter account? lmk buddy"
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189. "Fair enough, I got that one wrong."
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On a closure look it seems BLM -Louisville doesn't f with SK. Grownups can admit when they were wrong.

Ok. I'd drop that parenthetical you've responded to like 5 times, and I think the rest of my point stands:

1.The family ain't complaining
2. It seems he helped make it a national story
3. An actual lawmaker who pass the law credit him in part for the passage of the law.

None of these major points were addressed in you 3 to 1 responding to my post.



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190. "so, the family, who didn't ask for this and has no media training"
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hasn't gone out of the way to make an enemy of a public figure.


shaun king, despite his own admitted mistakes and failings, has consistently convinced politicians and celebrities to cosign him anyway and this is yet another example of that

and idk what your third thing was

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191. "oh, it was the national story thing in the middle"
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ok? he pulls social media attention, I have literally said that, for example, the black out day organizers should have consulted with him because he does know what he's doing there and is good at it.

I wasn't being sarcastic, he has skills and if he stuck to those I wouldn't have a quarrel with the "work" he does.


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192. "#68 but whatever"
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193. "yes, whatever"
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when the people on the ground say they're not with him it's pretty evident what's going on

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173. "This is the guy who says Biden more racist than all Republicans..."
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COMBINED?

Weird that he's a little sketchy.

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194. "MN Freedom Fund raised 35 mil - to spend 200k on black folx"
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The rest??


Minnesota Freedom Fund
@MNFreedomFund
6h
To say again: we are paying, and have paid, all protest bail that's come our way. There are a lot more people in jail on bail. Now, we can help on a scale impossible last month. We want to spend this money down to get people out of cages (ICE too) and we want to do it right.

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195. "yes, they suddenly got inundated with additional funding"
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a lot of people were released without bail.

so is it ok to ask questions about how people run their organizations or not?



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196. "Yup"
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197. "very suspicious how they literally begged people to donate elsewhere"
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198. "nah don't hop on this train, whether trying to prove a point or not"
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People in MN are like 'give them time, they got 300x the amount they usually get, they told people to donate elsewhere'

it's been like two weeks. Not YEARS.

  

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199. "white nationalists hating him makes me like him more"
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https://medium.com/@ShaunKing/shaun-king-a-private-law-enforcement-group-on-facebook-is-literally-plotting-to-kill-me-f1e916c90bf8

Of course if this is some Juicy Smouliet shit, I guess y'all win.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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200. "lol"
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202. "before the usual suspects whine"
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what I find funny is the idea that this makes you like him more.

I know that's bullshit for a fact.

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203. "Know how I know you're full of shit?"
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You keep tryping - what started as a typo sums you up.
It's a combination of trying (and failing) and typing.
I was surprised to recently learn OKP was ran by white women and sociopaths - makes me better understand why you have that OK by your name.

I have a 400 year old chip on my shoulder.

  

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204. "Yeah that shed a whole new light for me too"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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206. "I bet it did LOL"
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205. "nah motherfucker. white supremacists have threatened me"
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so you're a big fan of me now aren't you?

you aren't, because you're just a liar and a loser.


also, the idea that ok whoever in corporate made me a mod is some hilarious shit, I want you to write a script based on that idea so I can read the whole thing.

you're going to be so pissed when you find out how it actually happened I can't wait

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201. "Not a fan of Dude Dolezal BUT this is hard to ignore"
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If he's faking this then it's endgame but those groups are real. That brother that was jogging, his neighborhood has a racist AF Facebook page as well.

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207. "smh cmon fam."
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https://twitter.com/shaunking/status/1279401944621121537

https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1279411481650569222

https://twitter.com/arlenparsa/status/1168189409549803524

  

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208. "I'm now convinced that he's white"
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It's always been a matter of what he says versus what other people think and he has absolutely no credibility at this point.

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209. "lol @ this andrew schulz segment"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K0FXBmCs9t8

btw schulz clearly hired someone to write for him...because his comedy/commentary got sharp all of a sudden. when you hear him in interviews when he has to be spontaneous...he isnt anywhere near that.

  

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214. "Nah I'm gonna give him credit"
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he just sharpened his sword. I'm sure he has help with these rants but even still, dude has probably been the most improved.

I started watching some of his Youtube clips randomly and I can see the progression.

  

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210. "shaun deleted his original tweet. heres a screenshot:"
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcGknWcVAAEl60B?format=jpg&name=large

  

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212. "idk man, maybe the guy who throws a "junior staffer""
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under the bus, is the wrong one to have leading pretty much any organization.

which shouldn't be a controversial statement, since he's said it himself repeatedly

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213. "from tax fraud, money laundering to...stolen tweets."
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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218. "LOL. I recall you whining like a fuckin four year old over"
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people allegedly stealing your words

whining on twitter LOL.


this is the absolute best.

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227. "and I recall simps covering for the thick-gummed female version of you"
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you really hate seeing goofy lying chicks called out.

and she's a bigger con artist than shaun king.

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211. "heres a twitter thread on some of shaun kings 'history'."
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https://twitter.com/naima/status/1278460793395257345

i know people in here are constantly asking for receipts...so do with that information what you will.

im pretty much indifferent on dude at this point.

i think:
- he does a lot of good work in terms of bringing awareness to racism, police brutality, etc.
- his political activity is dubious but technically legal.
- his fundraising is frequently dubious but (once again) technically legal.
- he will eventually end up in a world of hurt for (and only for) defrauding rich/celeb business/startup investors.

  

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215. "I don’t think anyone big who funds him cares about these lil tweets"
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bashing him.

Until it’s in mainstream news or breaks laws it will life and die on twitter.

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216. "She immediately lied about Tamir Rice's family. IMMEDIATELY"
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Tamir's family didn't sue Shaun. That family's initially hired lawyers sued for access to the fund to pay their fees. You can read about it here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2015/05/05/online-activists-raised-60k-for-tamir-rices-family-so-where-did-all-that-money-go/

So, she's another liar. But when dude says fuck it I'm gonna go after yall, then he's a misogynoir bully who hates black women. Fuck outta here.

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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217. "lol"
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you actually like him better because he's too much of a little shit to push back against any man who says anything about him.

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219. "any other white-owned opinions you wanna share?"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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222. "I have no idea what you think that's referring to."
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220. "How many men have “pushed” King? "
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Seems like it’s mostly women.

And by pushing you mean tweeting right?

Cause it’s not like anyone has ever legally gone after him.

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221. "where'd you get your "mostly" figure?"
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225. "Same place I get all my Shaun King news.. from this place. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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229. "LOL"
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223. "....how do you know who has legally gone after him?"
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have you checked?

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224. "I have. Nobody is the answer. Now what?"
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_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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230. "lemme hold that PACER login"
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226. " Don’t care enough to check... I’m sure you guys would’ve posted i..."
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231. "ty for honestly answering that question"
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228. ""Mayonnaise Medgar Evers"
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STRIKES AGAIN!!"

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232. "Tamir Rice's mom, Samaria Rice, talks about King, Crump and Tamika Mallo..."
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https://twitter.com/_Rawilcox/status/1371995843683876865

Lee Merritt


earlier in this post dude asked if Crump and Merritt were in on the scam too.

so


I guess you have your answer now.


Full text: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rb4h6d2PjECBz0_ILawSyk7LDEPMjdJpSKSNtwYbhG4/edit?usp=sharing

Official Statement from Samaria Rice, mother of Tamir Rice, and Lisa Simpson, mother of Richard Risher


Tamika D. Mallory, Shaun King, Benjamin Crump, Lee Merritt, Patrisse Cullors, Melina Abdullah and the Black Lives Matter Global Network need to step down, stand back, and stop monopolizing and capitalizing off our fight for justice and human rights. We never hired them to be the representatives in the fight for justice for our dead loved ones murdered by the police. The ‘activists’ have events in our cities and have not given us anything substantial for using our loved ones' images and names on their flyers. The attorneys in our fight are also misleading the impacted families. In the case of Tamir Rice, it was even questionable as to whether Benjamin Crump knew the laws in-depth, in the state of Ohio; I fired him 6-8 months into Tamir’s case.
We don't want or need y'all parading in the streets accumulating donations, platforms, movie deals, etc. off the death of our loved ones, while the families and communities are left clueless and broken. Don’t say our loved ones’ names period! That’s our truth!

We demand accountability from everyone mentioned with the following demands:

Step down from the spotlight of our fights. Do not do anymore interviews, make anymore t-shirts, or hold anymore press conferences or events in the name of our loved ones. Do not use our loved ones to market any events. Stop clout chasing and ambulance chasing these families.

Black Lives Matter Los Angeles should pay me, Lisa Simpson, as I am the mother of Richard Risher. They had a press conference for the 49 day encampment when my son, Richard Risher, first got killed. They campaigned to raise $5,000 for my son’s funeral. I never received one penny of the money they raised. They kicked me off the encampment because they did not like how I chose to fight for my son.

Financial assistance for the Tamir Rice Foundation from all who have exploited Tamir Rice: Tamika Mallory, Shaun King, Benjamin Crump, and Black Lives Matter Global Network. I, Samaria Rice, purchased the building in 2018 and it needs remodeling, operational funds, bullet proof windows for the lower level, Hcvac cooling and heating system, commercial flooring, restrooms, furniture, piano repairs, new internal doors, etc.

Housing funds for Lisa Simpson, as I am battling homelessness with my current children. My son, Richard Risher, was killed by LAPD and I was offered no assistance from BLM. I am currently living in a motel with my children and need funds for housing.

Support the Tamir Rice Foundation and make all requested donations there: www.tamirericefoundation.org

Send personal donations to the cashapps of $SamariaRice and $LisaLee693



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233. "Ben Crump is always everywhere"
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That's rubbed me the wrong way from the beginning. One would think he is the only Civil Rights lawyer in this country.

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244. "Ben Crump got a 27M pre-court settlement for George Floyd's death"
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The cities largest and I am pretty sure the largest ever in the history of this country for police brutality cases.

He got the family of Breonna Taylor 12M, which I am pretty sure is the highest paid settlement for the murder of a woman by police.


Ben Crump is getting the largest awards for victims of police brutality in the entire history of this country.

Look at some of these other verdicts, not nearly the amount BC got for some of his families.

https://apnews.com/article/shootings-police-trials-lawsuits-police-brutality-2380f38268a504ae689ad5b64b5de2e7

Look at his awards and those of other civil rights attorneys, it becomes clear that the man is doing something very very right. And I also think a part of his success is the publicity that he brings to these cases.

So what exactly is the beef with Ben Crump?

I am not sure where this hate comes form. I think there is some anti-Southern bias at work with people thinking a guy who sounds like that can't be very smart or good with at his job.

Whatever it is I think its an odd way to treat our most successful police brutality attorney and I can't help but wonder if maybe Tamir Rice's family might have gotten a larger award if they had actually gone/stayed with him.

Anyway, I say all this to get people to probe where there anti-Ben Crump feelings come from because it can't be based on outcomes.

I wonder what folks would do with Jonnie Cochoran in this day and age.







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245. "Precisely. Just say "he sounds like a slave to me""
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or "I don't like him because other people don't like him and I'm too dumb to know what the fuck he even does."

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Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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270. "LOL"
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"Look at his awards and those of other civil rights attorneys, it becomes clear that the man is doing something very very right."

you fuckin losers are the best

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280. "Michael Avenatti got big settlements for his clients"
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got a bunch of awards

clearly he was doing something very right


these are true statements.

I don't know why anyone would attempt to defend an attorney by saying them.


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234. "Umm...didn’t Tamir’s family get a $6M settlement?"
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235. "not sure, and who knows if there was a "
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https://www.cleveland.com/court-justice/2016/11/tamir_rice_estates_multi-milli.html

says here she received $1.8 mill

the rest is split with attorneys and other family members

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I feel her on using her son’s name to get donations and sell merch. That woild be frustrating af.

its the unfortunate reality when your loved one is killed by police and it makes national news. their names will always be in the public for obvious reasons.

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236. "Samaria Rice's posts were heart breaking"
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I feel like when people become full time activists, it's only a manner of time before they're corrupted by the fame and money. I've seen it locally with people I've worked with and it's really disgusting. There very little accountability in movement spaces, and the general public doesn't know enough about these folks to call out their grift. Thanks for posting the cash apps.

  

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240. "She says, in the same statement..."
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"they were never hired to be representatives" and "I fired him 6-8 months in." Can't be both.

I'm sympathetic to her plight but she seems to be twisting some shit up and lashing out at the universe.

_____________________________________

Let me guess, I can have "good day" now, right?

  

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248. "She makes perfect sense"
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Her son was murdered by the state. She made the best choices she could at the time. When she knew better, she did better. Most families become prey to multiple actors in these situations. This is a very common story. Drop some money in her Cashapp.

  

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252. "It actually makes zero sense."
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Either he was hired or he wasn't, and if he wasn't, how did you fire him?

And you can hit her CashApp but I'm not. She got 2 Million dollars (at least). And perhaps ifshe stuck with her counsel that might have been closer to the 27 Mil that Floyd's family got...but hey, when you know better you do better, right?

She's making a general statement and I support her right to feel that way, but none of those people "preyed" on her or took anything from her and she hasn't said so.

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262. "Have you had a family member killed by the cops?"
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You are literally in no position to make the best decisions. Some families have the benefit of good counsel, but most do not. Samaria Rice is obviously saying that when she figured out that Crump wasn’t what she wanted, she fired him. Seems responsible to me. Also, is justice about getting more blood money from the state or fighting police violence? BLM has been raising money on behalf of these families. Literally saying this money is for the family of whoever and pocketing that money. Is that right?

  

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271. "You spoke truth. BLM has been doing that. "
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So call out their names. Patrisse, Opal, Alicia. They get to dodge the bullshit but as soon as Shaun or Ben come on the scene the niggas is "GrIfTerSsss." That goofy bullshit.

And the fact that most families don't have the benefit of good counsel is exactly why Crump and Merritt are important. They show up and offer good counsel in a situation where you wouldn't know who to call. And they're successful at it. And btw, justice is both of those things.

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267. "that does make sense if you can read and you aren't a white man"
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243. "Movements are messy. This has always been the case."
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this is no different.

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249. "It’s unacceptable and we should finally put a stop to it nm"
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266. "people refuse to acknowledge what's going on"
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237. "Tamir's mom started out by going in on the Obamas and BLM"
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But niggas was silent until she mentioned King & Crump...

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238. "The hate is almost hilarious. "
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She blasted at everyone with legitimate claims about so many people exploiting the moment. I feel what she is saying. I watch my linkedin stream and was thinking about how so many people are riding the wheels of the BLM and DEI movement in a way that feels exploitive. I see a white guy I knew from college who I legit think is trying to "pass" for black pushing a DEI consulting firm.

However, even in coming at SK there are still no specific claims that he somehow stole money from them. Its seems like more of local activist complaining about SK as an attention seeker.

This is not the smoking gun folk want it to be.



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241. "The SK hate is also clout chasing"
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you have people using his name to get eyes on their cause or to get people to jump on their twitter and keep the momentum going.

as far as white people tho, I never trusted the whole “lets talk, after Floyd I finally get it” cause most times its just white people making it bout themselves at our expense.

My wife had all types of required conversations for healing after Floyd with other educators. As soon as Trump lost the election, all those meetings and requirements stopped. I’m not sure if it was because it was just about the election and fear of violence or if it was white people pissed off once Trump lost and now they dont give af about that stuff anymore.

I’ve said repeatedly I find the timing of these BLM and police videos troubling. They always seem to ramp up before elections. Maybe its just because its always happening but I feel like its by design.

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242. "As a white dude with friends like this ..."
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>as far as white people tho, I never trusted the whole “lets
>talk, after Floyd I finally get it” cause most times its
>just white people making it bout themselves at our expense.

^^ that disingenuous bullshit lasted about a week. And, as always, was primarily driven by the fact that Fox told them it was OK to be empathetic this time around. These nazis take (or at least, took) their cues from Faux, as we all know. Faux blasted that video and said "well, THIS time the cop may have actually been in the wrong" and the sheep followed suit for a little bit.

But within a week or so they were already doing the "but he was high on drugs" thing and the performative empathy was gone.

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268. "LOL you just gotta change the subject"
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263. "so, to recap. you won't acknowledge what anyone said"
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you'll defend shaun king for anything

and you'll pretend this isn't happening.

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239. "a mother who lost a child to police violence will say a lot of things"
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and some of them may miss the mark. There is a lot of pain and grief.

Not sure what she said but I’m sure she has her reason’s.

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246. "She has a pass to say whatever she want "
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So you won't get push back from decent people who understand what she is going through and the pain and anger she must be feeling.



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247. "but you will get trolls pushing this narrative "
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We’re on the precipice of defund the police and criminal justice reform being actionable items

Due in large part to the activism by those same people named in the statement

That’s not clout chasing

That’s putting in work.

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250. "Wth? These people did nothing but co-opt the work of local "
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activists. From Ferguson to Breonna Taylor. Like come on. Y’all can’t be this ignorant.

  

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251. "I’ve been to panels with Patrisse "
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and I’ve been to BLM protests

Crump was on my TV this morning advocating for a 1 year old shot in the head by HOU PD

How is that co-opting

They’re doing work.

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253. "These people woulda HATED MLK Jr."
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"He's not even from Selma, or Montgomery, or Memphis. WHY IS HE CO-OPTING LOCAL ACTIVISTS???"

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258. "Ummm yeah"
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It’s pretty much well known that grassroots organizers heavily disagreed with King’s charismatic leadership style. He was criticized by Ella Baker, Fannie Hamer, the SNCC activists and so many highly respected folks from the CRM. However, I haven’t read anything where people considered King a grifter and a fraud like Shaun King and Tamika Mallory. These are principled criticisms that have gone ignored and now look at where we are. Smh.

  

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255. "There's a disconnect between national and local organizing."
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Both are necessary.
It would be great if we could get them on the same page, but the conditions don't always allow for that. That doesn't mean that national actors (esp), shouldn't do more to connect to what's happening on the local level, they absolutely should. Some of what happens is fucked up imo (like having concerts in people's names or whatever and not connecting with their families first). Some of what local activists want from National actors isn't realistic either. And sometimes local actors don't understand that while they are absolutely deserving of support, the movement is bigger than any one incident.

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260. "Yup, but the grifting is what is making people "
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truly angry. Families and local organizers are suffering. We still have people in Philly facing charges. Some of them are federal. These folks have offered zero material assistance.

  

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257. "*sigh*"
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This is pretty much what I meant when I said the general public doesn’t know enough about these folks to hold them accountable. Ughh. It’s just a lot.

  

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288. "Civil rights activism is not a path to wealth, celebrity and prosperity "
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+1, for minorities doing this work it’s a risk to personal health and well being

BLM has been treated like a terrorist group in the US

So I’m lost by the basic premise of the critique

What personal benefit or gain are you accusing these people of?

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254. "bringing National attention to local protests has somehow become co-opti..."
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the work. As if there is not enough work to go around.

To put another way, what work did the national activist "take" from these local activist which local activist could no longer do because of the national activist?

Did Martin Luther King "co-opt" the Memphis sanitation workers strike when he came down to join their efforts in 68?




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256. "RE: MLK"
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What isn't widely known at this point is that yes, local and especially younger activists didn't always like when MLK came to town because he overshadowed the work that they were doing.
What's happening here isn't dissimilar to that. Or how people often viewed Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton in the 80s and 90s.
The same issues exist and the same disconnect between the local and the national.

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259. "For sure. But we should know that history and see the pattern. "
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261. "It wasn’t always that King overshadowed their work "
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The critique was that he and his ministers often harmed organizing efforts that were already occurring. It’s what the folks in Louisville were saying about that Tamika Mallory and them.

  

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286. "Thanks for that."
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I was struggling to find the right way to phrase it. But yes. And yes.

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265. "hey, did shaun admit to taking money and wasting it or not?"
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269. "oh she has a pass from you? That's so awesome"
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because you are the determiner of who gets passes.



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275. "*looks around for the people who stopped you from discussing"
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the obamas and blm*

this thread is about shaun king and people decided they wanted to prove his viability by tying him to crump


if you want to have another discussion that's entirely up to you.

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264. "look at these niggas join up with a white man to be mad at black women"
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272. "idk if it would be possible for me to defend a man"
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who got two black men arrested for a crime committed by a white man

https://twitter.com/brownblaze/status/1203394775388307456

I'd have to let somebody else stand up for that dude and his right to profit off of alleged activism.


but some of y'all like that and hope he sends more black men to jail.

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273. "^^^Moderators, don't yall block conspiracy theories and spreading of ......"
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Misinformation?


Ashley Yates has been promoting the thoroughly debunked conspiracy theory that SK collaborated with Harris County Sheriff's Office (HCSO), The FBI, the Mainstream media, Wal-Mart (hiding surveillance tapes), the family of the victims (who agree with the police who the shooters were), Shelia Jackson Lee.....


Like come yall, this place is better than this right?


Either you know that this is untrue and are exploiting the death of this child to score some message board points or you, well, I guess you believe this sole person on twitter over literally every other person involved with the case. New Low.






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274. "so is it harassment if I respond to this or....."
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276. "Hey man, I try to avoid direct contact as much as I can but this is real..."
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bad and had to be responded to stop the spread of misinformation on the murder of a child. Like if you have time to delete it you should. It's not a good look for you.


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278. "bro if you have the evidence drop it in her thread so it can be known"
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and you won't have to interact with me at all

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279. "You want evidence a conspiracy didn't happen?"
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Man if you gave a shit about the truth you would have done 2 minutes of googling to see that the people you are defending confessed to their involvement and the family has accepted that these are the people who committed the murder.

https://www.chron.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Detectives-interviewing-person-of-interest-in-13511609.php

This is all bad faith. If you won't back off this misleading BS I'll leave it to the other moderators to step in. I'm done.



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281. "you're done like you're going to stop interacting with me like you said"
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or you're done like

you're not going to do that.

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283. "OKP supports the bullshit fam. "
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A lot of these mufuckas are strategically placed in our spaces to fan the flames of fuckery.

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285. "RE: idk if it would be possible for me to defend a man"
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>who got two black men arrested for a crime committed by a
>white man
>
>https://twitter.com/brownblaze/status/1203394775388307456
>
>I'd have to let somebody else stand up for that dude and his
>right to profit off of alleged activism.
>
>
>but some of y'all like that and hope he sends more black men
>to jail.
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

I remember this case a bit. You're saying the white guy who was originally suspected is indeed guilty?

  

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287. "that's what she's claiming, and still claims."
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and she's been sounding the alarm about a lot of the people getting called out now for a long time.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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277. "The article in the original post here mentions Shaun soliciting money"
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to make his new podcast a video podcast and to underwrite daily video news broadcasts and bring the original crew to join him.


It's been a year.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCuWI6mFfnJZP9CRwodIP4IQ


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjB6Q-EAazetPabzo1bnuFw/videos

https://www.twitch.tv/thebreakdown/videos


this is a joke right?

what kind of person would ride with this?

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282. "it's funny that buddy doesn't want to talk about this"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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289. "bought a new house in Jersey..."
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9848003/Controversial-activist-Shaun-King-moves-lavish-842-000-lakefront-home-New-Jersey.html

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290. "This is such BS"
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>https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9848003/Controversial-activist-Shaun-King-moves-lavish-842-000-lakefront-home-New-Jersey.html

I read quickly through his facebook post, but one of the main points was yes-- this is a nice home. A home everyone deserves, but 842k in NYC metro isnt really crazy-- and in NYC proper, he wouldnt have been able to get anything near this. I have a number of middle class friends and collegues who are paying mortgages on homes 700k - 2 million in NYC and LA.

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294. "plus he's married"
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We don't know how much money his wife makes. King is absolutely a grifter and somebody not to be trusted to lead organizations, but his family who aren't involved with any of this should have a decent place to live. (plus like you said in the new york metro this is not an obscenely expensive house - pricey yes but not over the top)

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295. "his wife is working on a Ph.D. or already has it"
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and she started a nonprofit.

Given all the celebrities who work with King its prolly much easier to raise funds and get that nice salary as the head of a nonprofit.

that is a 350K to 400K house in the south.

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291. "RE: bought a new house in Jersey..."
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"King, 41, has become a controversial figure in the Black Lives Matter and criminal justice reform movements after his racial identity was questioned. King's career has also been plagued by accusations of insincere motives and deception from his shady dealings."

woah

  

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303. "no one would let a dailymail link slide for any other BLM activist "
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use a dailymail link for anyone else and people will cry foul.

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308. "who?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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313. "what where when and why too nigga"
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314. "cash app bro $5 for his moving fund"
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292. "He should be living in a tent city"
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cause real activist don’t live in nice homes.

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293. "sick house"
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I didn't know about the court seizing the 60k...that's nuts

  

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296. "BLM founder paid $3.2 million for 4 properties since founding the group..."
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And she calls herself a Marxist to boot. It's worth cross referencing the people who are outraged about Shaun King's home who didn't say sh*t or even defended Patrisse Cullors to get an idea of who is full of it.


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300. "^^^All facts^^^"
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Funny how that works. I bet they applauded her purchase.

Is it wrong to point out the hypocrisy of Black activist moving to white neighborhoods?

Its something I struggle with when looking at houses and its one of the reasons I stopped looking in certain areas. Why would I live around nothing but white folk if all I do is complain about white folk?

Reminds me of Blackish when Pops told Dre he can’t expect his kids to scream blackness when he moved them to a white ass neighborhood.

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315. "it's wild how the only stuff you complain about"
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is stuff that you imagine happening
nothing that people actually did or said

just things you wish they'd said so that you could be angry about them.




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297. "my issue with him isn't the house he lives in"
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I don't think y'all need todefend an 850k house as just doing business

but it has no bearing on the facts he's admitted about his own shortcomings

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298. "He really should've made this purchase privately for his own safety"
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Start a trust with a generic name and have it buy the property so his name doesn't show up on public records. Now anyone can track him down.

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299. "Ugh. "
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I hate this so very much. The idea that activists -- black ones in particular -- aren't real or valuable, or worse, are doing some shady shit, unless they live in relative squalor is really fucking terrible.

  

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301. "You going to extremes. Nobody says they should live in squalor"
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I actually think Shuan Kings house is appropriate. But 3M worth of homes after you start your activism? Does that sound like a Marxist to you?


Listen being an activist who turns into a consultant taking huge pay checks from corporations is the shit they roasted the hell out of Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton for.

I think reasonable people can agree and disagree regarding how rich you can personally get off activism, the point I am trying to make is the double standard. If you think Shaun King is a grifter but not this woman than something else is at work.





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302. "I don't have an issue with either of them."
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And I reject the notion that being an activist and making money are mutually exclusive. Like... how much is *too* much? How big a house is *too* big? And who sets those standards?

It's ridiculous and a distraction that we fall for every single fucking time. I mean... the NYP covered it FFS. That really should tell you all you need to know about the motives at play.

Go at them on the merits of their work, not the value of their house.

  

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305. "I think Joel Olsteen's house is too big. "
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I know its messy to bring religious figures into this but its all the same to me.


I think transparency the key and non-profits and churchs should publish what they earn and what they pay people.

I think activists should make disclose any conflicts of interest that may come up from the money they receive.

All sorts of professions can come up with ethical standards on how to operate, it wouldn't be that hard to establish such standards for activist.




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307. "This really depends on the activist’s focus"
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An activist’s credibility is anchored in how consistently they apply their message. Hypocrisy is their Achilles heel.

If you talk a lot about income inequality and wealth in America, then your financial life needs to show your values too.

So yeah, Bernie having multiple houses certainly undermines his message to a degree bc, while he’s talking about billionaires, the average person won’t even get close to his lifestyle.

Same with the BLM founder with multiple houses. Some people will look at their message and wonder why it doesn’t apply to the messenger?

Osteen’s lifestyle is consistent with his message: God will bless you (financially) if you’re obedient, pious, whatever.

Shaun King mostly focuses on social justice so the biggest threats to his image would be appearing to be racist or inconsistently applying his social justice principles to different races of people. This money stuff won’t do him in on its own.


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309. "I don't like Bernie but a 70 year old man having 3 homes isn't hypocriti..."
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to me. Seems he paid about 500 for each home and bought over the course of his career.

I think the American Dream is to be able to buy your own home and if you do really well buy a second vacation home.


My biggest complaint about the BLM founder is, she calls herself a Marxist and the fact she doesn't get any the heat Shaun King gets and we know he would be roasted alive for doing that.



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318. "But you gotta reset your baseline to the rest of America"
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>to me. Seems he paid about 500 for each home and bought over
>the course of his career.

Median home price nationally is under 300k. And one of those houses he bought was in DC from 2007... so it's easily double by now.

All together, people estimate his net worth at around $2.5M... which is good for an upper middle class person making low 6 figures for much of their career like Bernie.

But that's all WAY beyond the average persons outcomes in the US.

>I think the American Dream is to be able to buy your own home
>and if you do really well buy a second vacation home.

I equate the American Dream with the middle class dream. Owning a home is definitly a part of that dream... and I'm sure having a vacation home or two is a dream for many across all income groups... but owning 3 houses that don't provide you any income is only a reality for the affluent.

This isn't to attack Bernie, I'm just pointing out that his recent financial success undermines his message.

>My biggest complaint about the BLM founder is, she calls
>herself a Marxist and the fact she doesn't get any the heat
>Shaun King gets and we know he would be roasted alive for
>doing that.

She doesn't get much heat because people largely don't know who she is. They've been smart to avoid personal fame as much as possible.

I also don't know what you're really supposed to do if your political ideology is completely different from the prevailing one where you live lol. Capitalists often attack Marxism, socialism, and communism on the idea that it makes people equally poor. I wouldn't want to embody that stereotype, if I was a Marxist. And I also don't know what level of affluence would be considered justified. Should she just rent?

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304. "what extremes? She defended both of them in her post"
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306. "cats are straight pathetic."
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worse than the klan at this point.


on sabbatical.

does it really matter?

wonder what bin's doing?
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310. "He moving out the house now lol"
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https://twitter.com/scoontv/status/1423340147689598979?s=21

Edit: here’s his post from Facebook
https://twitter.com/chris_notcapn/status/1422812504703520771?s=21

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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311. "A black woman and her kids being harassed is funny?"
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Man I'd be uncomfortable with all the white people in the mentions who feel comfortable weighing and clowning a black family's harrasment and agreeing with the NYPost.



  

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316. "I'm praying for CIPHA's safety"
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312. "I don’t see what’s so funny. People are crazy these days"
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this man has a wife and kids and people think its funny to see him have to uproot his family due to concerns over safety?

This aint even a big house.

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317. "Like I said above, they should not have used their real names"
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Real estate transactions are public records so anybody can find the details of your home purchase, if they know where to look. As high profile as they are, they should've started a trust with a generic name to buy this house so conservative media couldn't out them.

They likely wouldn't have been able to use that FHA loan though... the fact his wife used an FHA loan suggests they're not as rich as some people assume.

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319. "Exactly - the fact that it was FHA and also the fact that they"
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don't have the money/resources to have advisors setting up a trust for them. They are solidly middle class, and that's a really nice middle class home that they purchased with a middle class loan, and nothing that indicates anything shady they should be ashamed of.

>Real estate transactions are public records so anybody can
>find the details of your home purchase, if they know where to
>look. As high profile as they are, they should've started a
>trust with a generic name to buy this house so conservative
>media couldn't out them.
>
>They likely wouldn't have been able to use that FHA loan
>though... the fact his wife used an FHA loan suggests they're
> not as rich as some people assume.

  

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320. "Bout that time to write this same article again lol"
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See reply #7(https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13385461&mesg_id=13385461&listing_type=search#13385489)

https://www.thedailybeast.com/inside-shaun-kings-shadowy-dollar67-million-nonprofit-grassroots-law-project-formed-after-george-floyds-death

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322. "Daily Beast hates this guy"
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I read it and to be honest, just wasn't clear if anything new was there.

I keep waiting for someone to provide the smoking gun of spending 6M on an influencer incubator or giving huge no show contracts to brother in laws.

They never have that.


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323. "Haha yea I'm always underwhelmed by these articles too."
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I don't even care about King like that, at all, one way or the other, but I'm always waiting for TDB to make my jaw drop and I always feel like I'm just reading the same article they wrote the last time.


>I read it and to be honest, just wasn't clear if anything new
>was there.
>
>I keep waiting for someone to provide the smoking gun of
>spending 6M on an influencer incubator or giving huge no show
>contracts to brother in laws.
>
>They never have that.

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327. "if you don't mind that the money sent to him, over and over again"
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never seems to turn into anything except failed projects that don't even start

then you've lowered the bar enough to ignore it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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321. "I remember him being BLACK during his college era..."
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a few other OKP's went to Morehouse with him...where y'all at?


http://art-------school.com/

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324. "I went to his lil hip hop church a couple times."
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Seemed black as hell to me.

If he ain't black, he's an incredible actor.

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326. "He’s Black"
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>a few other OKP's went to Morehouse with him...where y'all
>at?
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>>http://art-------school.com/
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>>https://ibb.co/k4m6n8C

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328. "He always was to me "
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http://art-------school.com/

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325. "The Scam Goddess podcast went IN or a few episodes"
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Extreme roasting!!

Episode 1:
https://www.earwolf.com/episode/the-shan-king-episode-with-ashley-ray-harris/

Episode 2: Scamuel L. Jackson: Shaun King Part 2 w/ Ashley Ray
https://www.earwolf.com/episode/scamuel-l-jackson-shaun-king-part-2-w-ashley-ray/

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