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"Poll question: THE STIMULUS CHECKS ARE PROOF THEY COULD'VE PAID BLACK PEOPLE #REPARAT..."
Wed May-20-20 11:08 PM by rdhull

  

          

a statement posed elsewhere for discussion

Poll result (23 votes)
damn skippy (14 votes)Vote
nah, its deeper than that (9 votes)Vote

  

  

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lol
May 21st 2020
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wtf is deeper than that
May 21st 2020
2
how much should we get? who all should qualify?
May 21st 2020
7
Definitely.. but you see how white people acting after $1200
May 21st 2020
3
Would be much more than 1200 a person
May 21st 2020
4
no shit
May 21st 2020
5
RE: Would be much more than 1200 a person
May 21st 2020
6
Roughly $9,230 but reparations is much more than a check
May 21st 2020
10
People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
May 21st 2020
8
Way more interested in grants, free tuition, tuition forgiveness, land, ...
May 21st 2020
11
land
May 21st 2020
13
      They knew land would put us way ahead of the game.
May 21st 2020
16
           real estate is arguably the most valuable thing you can own.
May 21st 2020
23
           ...
May 21st 2020
27
           gullah geechee?
May 21st 2020
28
                Nah.. Southport, NC.
May 21st 2020
33
^
May 21st 2020
14
RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
May 21st 2020
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RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check.
May 21st 2020
22
people dont read
May 25th 2020
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So they would've undershot the harm by magnitudes
May 21st 2020
9
and sent a ton of money to tax preparers instead of people
May 21st 2020
12
Its not just a check, champ...
May 21st 2020
15
No shit, chief
May 21st 2020
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      you cant talk new ideas w/out the ‘but systematic racism crowd‘
May 21st 2020
38
the debates in here are why "reparations" will never happen
May 21st 2020
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Yeah? How so?
May 21st 2020
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Nah.. it ain’t because of us. Don’t do that.
May 21st 2020
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the ppl that got reparations: what did they have, we didnt have?
May 21st 2020
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I’m not doing the “blame a negro” debate with you
May 21st 2020
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      bc using shame and guilt against yt folk has worked great so far
May 21st 2020
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I don't think he's saying it's our fault...
May 21st 2020
29
Disregard my interpretation LOL
May 21st 2020
32
if we can't agree on it how can they? Lets not forget that the majority....
May 21st 2020
30
      Engaging with your federal representative and expressing your views
May 21st 2020
31
           they see that as blaming the negro
May 21st 2020
36
Oh THATS why? Ok tom.
May 21st 2020
34
LMAO at proof that water is wet
May 21st 2020
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lol.
May 21st 2020
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When they start giving out checks.....
May 23rd 2020
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FLUIDJ
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1. "lol"
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2. "wtf is deeper than that"
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7. "how much should we get? who all should qualify?"
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i definitely agree if they WANTED to they couldve given us reparations. but there are some legit logistical questions as to how it'd take shape.

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3. "Definitely.. but you see how white people acting after $1200"
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Pretty sure that civil war would start immediately if we got reparations.

shut up already, damn

  

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4. "Would be much more than 1200 a person "
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Thu May-21-20 08:51 AM by Amritsar

  

          

Too lazy to do the math on if we took that 1200 that went to every American and instead sent it to black America as reparations.


I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for the injustice

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5. "no shit"
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>Too lazy to do the math on if we took that 1200 that went to
>every American and instead sent it to black America as
>reparations.
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>I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for
>the injustice

  

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6. "RE: Would be much more than 1200 a person "
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>I feel like it still wouldn’t be enough to fully account for
>the injustice

^^definitely not enough.

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10. "Roughly $9,230 but reparations is much more than a check"
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as I state below.

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8. "People are still thinking of reparations as just a check."
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Which is very flawed. If it lived up to its name, it would include job guarantees, free tuition, talk therapy, etc. It would *repair* what slavery, Jim Crow, and all these years of marginalization did to descendants of slavery. So much more than a check.

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11. "Way more interested in grants, free tuition, tuition forgiveness, land, ..."
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shut up already, damn

  

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13. "land"
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Thu May-21-20 10:52 AM by Crash Bandacoot

          

remember 40 acres and a mule? it was going to pass and was shot down
by a racist president. all they had to do was pass that and some of
this could have been mended but no. and here we are today 2020 with
so many more problems.

  

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legsdiamond
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16. "They knew land would put us way ahead of the game. "
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They will never give us land.

My wife is from a small port town outside of Wilmington. It was mostly a Black port. When Black folk owned land on the water it was labeled high risk, bad soil.. you couldn’t build on it.

Once they sold it to white folk all a sudden the land was valuable and you could build on it. My wife’s fam built a ton of houses and some of them still own farms.

shut up already, damn

  

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23. "real estate is arguably the most valuable thing you can own."
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i mean, disenfranchising black people of land/home ownership was one of the worst things this country ever did to black americans.

that's automatic generational wealth even if you have no other assets.

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27. "..."
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Thu May-21-20 02:11 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

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28. "gullah geechee?"
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they dug up that land and put golf courses and resorts on them, it's all up and
down the "low country" in mostly south carolina (hilton head) to georgia,

  

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33. "Nah.. Southport, NC. "
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Real close to SC tho.

shut up already, damn

  

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14. "^"
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18. "RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check."
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Thu May-21-20 11:44 AM by rdhull

  

          

>Which is very flawed. If it lived up to its name, it would
>include job guarantees, free tuition, talk therapy, etc. It
>would *repair* what slavery, Jim Crow, and all these years of
>marginalization did to descendants of slavery. So much more
>than a check.

Exactly... the premise of the post aka title was lifted from another place as I stated, and I stated let’s discuss. I just don’t want you to think I think reparations is simply a bullshit check... or casinos. However, the title of the post shows that they can do these things. Will there be consequences with the yahoo standard mindset of white folks.. yeah. But so what? However, it will never happen but my point is It IS possible but just won’t happen due to inherent racism.

  

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22. "RE: People are still thinking of reparations as just a check."
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>Exactly... the premise of the post aka title was lifted from
>another place as I stated, and I stated let’s discuss. I
>just don’t want you to think I think reparations is simply a
>bullshit check... or casinos.



Oh nah, I got that it was just a discussion starter. I didn't think you agreed with it.



>However, the title of the post
>shows that they can do these things. Will there be
>consequences with the yahoo standard mindset of white folks..
>yeah. But so what? However, it will never happen but my point
>is It IS possible but just won’t happen due to inherent
>racism.



I mean... I think it shows that they could've done SOMEthing. A legit breakdown of how much reparations would cost is much higher than the cost of stimulus checks tho. If done properly, that would be to the tune of 8.4 trillion while they spent considerably less on stimulus checks at 290 billion.

Here's an article for anyone interested in where I got the 8.4 trillion figure from: https://medium.com/@antoniomoore/the-roadmap-to-reparations-explained-by-ados-3577db752213




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40. "people dont read"
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lack imagination, and dont know history or economics

  

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9. "So they would've undershot the harm by magnitudes"
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Thu May-21-20 09:15 AM by MEAT

  

          

Spitballed a number out of thin air.
Fucked up the disbursement
Gave descendants of enslavers more and easier.
Then spent the rest of their time making sure that anyone that receives reparations doesn't get any government assistance of any kind and also can't get an abortion


cool

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12. "and sent a ton of money to tax preparers instead of people "
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shut up already, damn

  

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15. "Its not just a check, champ..."
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Slavery, Jim Crow, the war on drugs, systemic racial targeting via direct and indirect methods etc etc... all need to be paid for.

We're talking countless decades of intentional harm inflicted upon one community. Tangible resources are a start but not the end. Get rid of this diversity minority bullshit too. Every social/ethnic culture can fight their own battles and stop using my community. Add that to reparations package.

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17. "No shit, chief"
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>Slavery, Jim Crow, the war on drugs, systemic racial
>targeting via direct and indirect methods etc etc... all need
>to be paid for.
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>We're talking countless decades of intentional harm inflicted
>upon one community. Tangible resources are a start but not the
>end. Get rid of this diversity minority bullshit too. Every
>social/ethnic culture can fight their own battles and stop
>using my community. Add that to reparations package.

  

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38. "you cant talk new ideas w/out the ‘but systematic racism crowd‘"
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as if they’re telling you something you dont know already

  

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19. "the debates in here are why "reparations" will never happen"
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20. "Yeah? How so?"
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24. "Nah.. it ain’t because of us. Don’t do that. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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25. "the ppl that got reparations: what did they have, we didnt have?"
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no, not lighter skin color either

  

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26. "I’m not doing the “blame a negro” debate with you "
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shut up already, damn

  

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37. "bc using shame and guilt against yt folk has worked great so far"
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29. "I don't think he's saying it's our fault..."
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I interpreted it as him saying the reasoning within the responses is the why we won't get it... reasoning such as, it would cost much more, white folks would flip out, it would have to include a lot more than a check, etc.

Maybe that isn't what he was saying, but that's what thought he was saying at least.



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32. "Disregard my interpretation LOL"
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30. "if we can't agree on it how can they? Lets not forget that the majority...."
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of this country probably wants to see us back in chains.

We see how divided the country is with what's going on today.

  

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31. "Engaging with your federal representative and expressing your views"
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Petitions
Polling
Hiring a lobbyist, etc.

We don't have to agree on the particulars, we don't have to do the maths, all we have to do is advocate for it and ask for it to be pushed forward.

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36. "they see that as blaming the negro"
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lobbyists and lawyers are the 2 things we never bring to the table

nope.

we want it GIVEN to us because we deserve it and its the right thing to do

  

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34. "Oh THATS why? Ok tom."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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21. "LMAO at proof that water is wet"
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without economic leverage, it will never happen

  

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35. "lol. "
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who's having that conversation lol

  

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39. "When they start giving out checks....."
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Best believe everybody gonna be black then....

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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