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lightworks
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"I think they gotta retool #Verzuz. Y’all agree?"


          

After watching Luda and Nelly last night I’ve come to the conclusion that:

1) 20 songs is too many.

Most artists have 10 amazing surefire hits or great songs people know about.‬

But 20 means we get filler in the middle, like we got from Nelly and Jill Scott, while they wait to play the last 5 straight fire tracks.‬

There are very few artists that pound for pound have 20 straight amazing songs in a battle situation.

Erykah did. Luda did.

I’m sure Jay and Beyoncé and Whitney would.

Of course Stevie would.

But I think 20 songs is too much for this format because more artists don’t have that.

2) Also, Verzuz goes on a little too long with all the talking and starting 30 minutes late to let the people come in as Swizz says.

I suggest he and Timbaland cut it down to best no filler and most fire 10 songs with a bonus 5 for fun, kinda like Luda and Nelly did.

Maybe take the last 5 fun songs and explain more about them, whether it is a funny or interesting story or something cool about the arrangement.

Leave the actual battle songs alone re long talks in between because I feel like that throws the vibe off.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Agree with most of your suggestions
May 17th 2020
1
Funny you mention not editing to the features...
May 17th 2020
2
Agree with Nelly having the 20...
May 17th 2020
18
RE: I think they gotta retool #Verzuz. Y’all agree?
May 17th 2020
3
I don’t like the idea of DJs...That could work for late celebs though....
May 17th 2020
5
      Agreed. And I'm a DJ. It's fun when we do them against each other
May 19th 2020
46
Nah, I don't think so.
May 17th 2020
4
This outlook annoys me:
May 17th 2020
6
      hearing the same complaints about verzuz every week is annoying
May 17th 2020
8
      Now in *this* context, you don’t have to click the post or read
May 17th 2020
9
           Cool
May 17th 2020
10
      "Retooling" the entire verzuz format isn't a light critique or sugg tho.
May 17th 2020
11
           quick question:
May 17th 2020
13
                Y’all agree?
May 17th 2020
14
                lol
May 17th 2020
16
                .
May 17th 2020
15
                when she made the post.
May 17th 2020
19
                     How the hell do message boards work?
May 17th 2020
20
                          seems really hard at times.
May 17th 2020
22
Nah... I think folks want something else
May 17th 2020
7
get a grip. you aint doing nothing but watching 'ig live.'
May 17th 2020
12
Re: “filler”
May 17th 2020
17
I can't wrap my head around people in the thread saying
May 17th 2020
21
Lmaooo it’s the rapper Nelly.
May 17th 2020
23
WTF? Luda has 20 TOP 40 hits alone. Nelly has 14
May 17th 2020
25
      Neither was P**** Poppin’...
May 17th 2020
26
      Exactly
May 17th 2020
27
      Ride With Me, Country Grammar, Hot In Herre. Dilemma. 16 more tho?
May 18th 2020
30
           you didn't list any Luda songs
May 18th 2020
31
                Uh your reading comprehension is off--he said combined between
May 18th 2020
36
                     i agree. Nelly didn't have enough material that was great
May 21st 2020
49
I don't care for the actual competition
May 17th 2020
24
Alladis
May 17th 2020
28
thats the exact beauty of it. seeing 2 artists that u (presumably) like
May 18th 2020
34
      /endpost
May 18th 2020
45
It's The Artists They're Picking Not The Number Of Songs The Problem
May 18th 2020
29
That's going to be a hard "no."
May 18th 2020
32
yeah, the banter between Erykah and Jill made there's so great
May 18th 2020
33
exactly.
May 18th 2020
35
100%. I coulda sat with Erykah & Jill or Preem and Rza for 24 hours.
May 18th 2020
38
      I've heard a lot of folks say they dip in and out, that never
May 18th 2020
39
           I've sat through 2-3 of them.
May 18th 2020
40
                Only one I sat thru was Rza and Preemo
May 19th 2020
47
It doesn't need to cater to folks with short attention spans
May 18th 2020
37
yes
May 18th 2020
41
doing way too much
May 18th 2020
42
RE: doing way too much
May 18th 2020
43
Another category..
May 18th 2020
44
Lmao
May 24th 2020
54
This is a great idea.
May 19th 2020
48
Apologies accepted here
May 24th 2020
50
Observations after Beenie v Bounty
May 24th 2020
51
Last night was phenomenal!!
May 24th 2020
52
The “dancer” was Beenie’s daughter
May 24th 2020
53
man that was fun as hell.
May 24th 2020
56
Better than Jill vs Erykah
May 24th 2020
55
LOL! They even had Ciroc product placement...
May 25th 2020
57
I’m not into 112 or Jagged Edge so gonna skip it tonight but
May 25th 2020
58
I could put together a good 15 for Jagged Edge
May 25th 2020
59
if you're not into them u literally can't say they don't have 20 songs
May 27th 2020
60
      I heard it was a disaster.. and didn’t even go on as planned
May 27th 2020
61
           I didn't watch either lmao but they got fucking hits
May 27th 2020
62
                i havent watched since badu vs jill
May 27th 2020
63

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1. "Agree with most of your suggestions"
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The big problem is NO ONE is sticking to the 1:30 time length per song. None of the songs are edited so IF it was a feature it starts closer to the feature (Luda and T-pain had show edits though).

It does make sense to have fewer songs. Nelly Definitely had 20 joints he coulda played yesterday but he straight up chose duds for no apparent reason.

I know they are moving platforms but they should do so before the next one. At least on YT or twitch they can use OBS like everyone else is doing to make it visually more fun as well. Playing videos in BG etc...

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lightworks
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2. "Funny you mention not editing to the features..."
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I did notice Luda edited his songs but I thought it was funny that he let ALLLL of “Oh” by Ciara play before it got to his verse, I know it’s a hot song but I legit was like “Damn he’s not gonna start at the chorus before his verse??”

Lol.

  

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18. "Agree with Nelly having the 20..."
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I dig the fact the dude was enjoying himself the way he was. He ain’t give no fix about playing what people wanted to hear. Dude was doing his own thing.

I’ve never owned or listened to either one of their albums but I did enjoy the radio cuts they had during their respective runs.

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3. "RE: I think they gotta retool #Verzuz. Y’all agree?"
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5. "I don’t like the idea of DJs...That could work for late celebs though...."
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Ya know, MJ vs Prince, Whitney vs Mariah, stuff like that...

  

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46. "Agreed. And I'm a DJ. It's fun when we do them against each other"
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but for this magnitude, the fact that it's the actual artists themselves playing their songs is the entire appear behind it. Guarantee none of the battles would even have 10% of the hype with DJs playing their songs.

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4. "Nah, I don't think so."
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Sun May-17-20 11:18 AM by kfine

          

I think 20 songs is fine and for some battles, it hasn't even been enough (eg. going into OT, fans still complaining about faves not being played, etc).

If some artists have trouble coming up with a competitive top 20... maybe they don't need to be battling in the first place. That's where I'm at with it. The format strongly favors G.O.A.T.s/leaders in their respective spaces and almost functions like a retrospective on each artist's work. I'm not mad at there being a space for that.

Personally, the Nelly v. Luda matchup didn't excite me much (tho I know they both had their heyday) and it's one of very few I didn't at least check in on during or afterwards *shrug* If a viewer tuned in and was unimpressed that's kind of on the viewer imho (no one's forcing anyone to watch). I don't see why a less competitive matchup should alter the experience for when heavyweights *do* participate. If that's gonna be an issue then I'd rather verzuz competitors simply be restricted to heavyweights, tbh.

Like... maybe the world doesn't need lil bow wow to face off against lil mama. Or, maybe it does but not in the verzuz format. And that's cool. But cutting the format in half right before puff goes up against dre or whatever the verzuz finale ends up being would be really annoying imho.

Last thing I disagree with you on is the talking, stories, etc. Personally? I like all that and it makes the vibe feel more cordial, respectful... even educational in some instances. The vibe in between songs made the Erykah and Jill matchup feel the most *nourishing* to me, by far. Or in the Boi-1da v. Hit-Boy battle, they played a lot more instrumentals which viewers not as into production might have found boring *shrug* So just goes to show that lots of ppl enjoy these shows in different ways, and perhaps rules dictating every little detail would end up worsening the experience for more than it would help.

At some point, I just think it's helpful to remind ourselves that these performances are being put on for free to help people cope and find small pockets of fun/joy while covid wreaks havoc on folks' health, wellbeing, families, and communities. That's really the most important takeaway here.

  

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6. "This outlook annoys me:"
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Sun May-17-20 12:04 PM by lightworks

          

>At some point, I just think it's helpful to remind ourselves
>that these performances are being put on for free to help
>people cope and find small pockets of fun/joy while covid
>wreaks havoc on folks' health, wellbeing, families, and
>communities. That's really the most important takeaway here.

Because it's like yes, it is great that it is free and is meant as a nice distraction during these quarantine times, but that doesn't mean if someone has suggestions for doing something a different way that that means they are ungrateful or are complaining.

Obviously everyone is free just not to watch something if they don't want but this idea that something is above light critiques or suggestions just because it is free is silly.

  

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8. "hearing the same complaints about verzuz every week is annoying"
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not trying to shut down the discussion but it’s like the 4th time people have had this same argument.

shut up already, damn

  

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9. "Now in *this* context, you don’t have to click the post or read"
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the comments if you feel like it’s rehashing things you’ve seen before.

I think discussing what works and what doesn’t is a valid discussion to have and shouldn’t be discouraged but someone saying the same arguments are had weekly really does have the option to walk on by and click on a post they like better.

  

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10. "Cool"
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shut up already, damn

  

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11. ""Retooling" the entire verzuz format isn't a light critique or sugg tho."
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Sun May-17-20 12:50 PM by kfine

          

You basically advocated for cutting the format in half but allowing for 5 bonus tracks, to accomodate matchups between less competitive catalogues. That would be a pretty significant change for them to make midway (and it shouldn't surprise that not everyone may like the idea).

I do find it interesting that you interpreted my use of "free" to mainly refer to you/viewers not being charged to watch, tho. That's part of it, but really what I was getting at is a fair amount of uncompensated effort still goes into organizing these matchups, not to mention artists (and members of their staff) themselves setting aside time that they could/would obv charge a lot more for.

So I could see light critiques/suggestions about keeping to start times, song times, sound quality, etc. Those are small fixes that would dramatically improve execution. But demands to alter the whole format and dictate if/how artists express themselves while performing just seems a bit much. Not sure why my sharing this annoys you since you asked for our opinions *shrug*

  

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13. "quick question:"
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when did she ask our opinions?

  

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14. "Y’all agree? "
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^^^^
That part

Is t this the reason you gave your opinion below?

shut up already, damn

  

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16. "lol"
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yup

  

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15. "."
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Sun May-17-20 01:46 PM by kfine

          

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19. "when she made the post. "
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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20. "How the hell do message boards work? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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22. "seems really hard at times."
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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7. "Nah... I think folks want something else"
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It’s not a party.

I do agree the songs can go too long.

A DJ could easily pull this off with back and forth’s and proper editing of songs but that’s not what makes it so popular.

Seeing the actual artist play songs and talk about them is what makes everyone tune in.

shut up already, damn

  

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12. "get a grip. you aint doing nothing but watching 'ig live.'"
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now aint the time for everyone's armchair edits.

this aint a real venue.

personally, i think the whole execution is terrible.

seriously listening to music on ig live is whack within itself.

there is no quality.

but it's serving it's purpose.

short bursts of virtual fame, likes, follows. it's all there.

  

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17. "Re: “filler”"
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Sun May-17-20 02:46 PM by Creole

  

          

During Erykah’s and Jill’s episode, it was obvious to me that there were far more people who knew Jill’s music. To some folks, what Erykah played, aside from her known and classic hits, was “filler.” There were people in there who were asking for songs off of Jill’s last album from 15 which some of y’all hadn’t even listened to. Was different though when these artists had more radio play which is probably where most went to hear their music before buying or listening to the album.

20 songs is just fine. That’s one of the criteria. I’ve heard Swizz say that the artists has to have at least 20 in the chamber to even be considered. And that seemingly includes features. T-Pain ain’t have 20 by himself but he damned sure had 20+ when you considered his features, his productions, etc.

“Filler” though... What’s filler to you ain’t filler to e’rybody else.




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21. "I can't wrap my head around people in the thread saying"
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Sun May-17-20 05:42 PM by Stringer Bell

          

Nelly, Luda and Jill Scott have 20 songs even worth hearing, let alone "hits".

Luda has maybe 5 hits? Nelly might have 3 or 4, if you include Tip Drill.

*EDIT* Maybe it was Furtado? I ain't been watching.

STILL, gun to your head? Name 20 hits COMBINED between both Nelly's.

You are dead before you hit double digits.

  

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23. "Lmaooo it’s the rapper Nelly. "
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But fair point.

  

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25. "WTF? Luda has 20 TOP 40 hits alone. Nelly has 14"
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this has to be trolling. no one you're this ignorant about the amount of hits they got. almost anyone can EASILY name 10-20 hit songs they both had. Easily.


p.s. Tip Drill was never really a hit song, at least radio wise.

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26. "Neither was P**** Poppin’..."
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>p.s. Tip Drill was never really a hit song, at least radio
>wise.

Both were more for the strip clubs and BET Uncut.

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27. "Exactly"
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they worked in that medium, and that's what they were for.

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30. "Ride With Me, Country Grammar, Hot In Herre. Dilemma. 16 more tho?"
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no

  

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31. "you didn't list any Luda songs"
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Mon May-18-20 01:23 AM by justin_scott

          

he said no one could name 20 songs from both combined. you completely didn't list any Luda songs


nelly:

hot in herre
country grammer
dilemma
air force ones
ride wit me
e.i.
shake ya tailfeather
grillz


luda:

roll out
stand up
southern hospitality
whats your fantasy
area codes
move bitch
welcome to atlanta
saturday
money maker
splash waterfalls
how low


that's 19. took me 5 minutes to think of them all, and I know there's a bunch i'm forgetting. luda has TONS of hit songs.

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36. "Uh your reading comprehension is off--he said combined between"
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Mon May-18-20 09:07 AM by lightworks

          

the two Nelly's, as in Furtado and rapper Nelly.

I mean I know he said it as a joke but still..

I stand by his point though that rapper Nelly don't have that many hits to be in the battle, sure maybe if you reply heavily on features like Girlfriend with NSync but other than that nah...

Luda was relying heavily on features too during Verzuz but I personally think he has enough hits on his own to have a rightful spot in the Verzuz series.

Nelly? No.

  

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49. "i agree. Nelly didn't have enough material that was great"
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and definitely not enough hits.

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24. "I don't care for the actual competition"
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I just like two people playing music and enjoying the moment.

I'd like it if they can figure out a way to get it on a better platform. Keep it on IG for the chat, but have a much better setup on Youtube or Twitch with improved sound/video.

  

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28. "Alladis"
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34. "thats the exact beauty of it. seeing 2 artists that u (presumably) like"
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interacting with each other, playing music and giving commentary. if i just wanna hear songs mixed by a dj i can buy a mixtape smh. ppl making this way too hard

>I just like two people playing music and enjoying the moment.
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>I'd like it if they can figure out a way to get it on a better
>platform. Keep it on IG for the chat, but have a much better
>setup on Youtube or Twitch with improved sound/video.

  

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45. "/endpost"
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29. "It's The Artists They're Picking Not The Number Of Songs The Problem"
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What I see is a greatest hits battle between artists, and usually one of the artists has more hits while the other has a better catalog.

With Jill, to me she has better albums I can listen to from beginning to end but with Erykah I can only listen to her singles and a few songs off each album but not entire albums.

With Ludacris, he's got better music than anything Nelly has done, but Nelly has more pop appeal but among hip-hop listeners Luda has the best songs regardless if it was a hit or not (except I couldn't tell you one song off his last two albums to save my life).

With the Teddy vs. Babyface, clearly Teddy has gigantic hits and has dominated the new jack swing and radio for over 30 years but Babyface written & produced some big hits too but almost all of them are slow jams & ballads, and of course his own songs; but c'mon who can compete with one of the most popular rap songs in history "The Show" by Doug E. Fresh & Slick Rick, Ted will forever be a legend.

With RZA vs. Dj Premier, to me Dj Premier could've played songs he has produced up to year 2000 and still have more bangers while RZA only has a short window of hits but Wu-Tang has a world wide fan base bigger than most of the songs Dj Premier has produced which the average rap listener probably only knows a tenth of Primo's catalog; but how many of RZA's songs are entirely produced by him even though it's still an impressive resume in that short time when he produced & executive produced 11 albums in a five year span without all of them not sounding the same, Premier couldn't do that feat if he tried.

What I'm saying is if they choose battles between artists who have a decent enough list of songs to go thru 20 songs then it's worth it but just because someone got a few hits and it's well known doesn't mean they need to be in these "Versez Battles" but personally I don't like these battles, they're quite boring.

Like Joe Budden said on SOTC once, I rather see battles between producers with them playing new beats, not artists playing their hit songs.


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32. "That's going to be a hard "no.""
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First of all, LOL at keep it shorter. They're playing music on a Saturday night from a country where almost everything is shut the fuck down. Where does everyone have to be? What else do they have to do? This isn't Short Attention Span Theater.

Seriosuly, and without the talking in-between, what's the point? If I wanted to just hear the songs I'd play them myself. Them talking in-between giving information and feeling about the songs makes things interesting.

It's be like complaining about Ice Cube breaking down the history and tracks on AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted yesterday during the listening party. Why would I watch if he's just going to play the album in its entirety? Shit, I've heard it more times than almost every other album in existence.

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33. "yeah, the banter between Erykah and Jill made there's so great"
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35. "exactly."
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the whole point is to get a vibe from the artists about the tracks they're playing or whatever else they feel like discussing.

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38. "100%. I coulda sat with Erykah & Jill or Preem and Rza for 24 hours."
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The others I've poked my head in and out of but I love the banter, the mutual respect, the stories ... stripping it down to just like 35 minutes and 5 songs would ruin everything that makes the whole thing cool and special. Would be an awful idea. Keep it as is.

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39. "I've heard a lot of folks say they dip in and out, that never"
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occurred to me to do...

Folks have said they have it on in the background as they do other stuff, they've said they've watched part of it and come back.

When I'm in I'm in and committed to the whole thing.

I guess that's the difference between me and some other folks, they don't feel the need to watch the whole thing so they are less concerned with wanting it retooled...

  

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40. "I've sat through 2-3 of them."
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they can be tiring, but I'll also have other stuff that I'm doing. so I may have vs on ipad, but will be elsewhere on my laptop. I can still hear what's happening without being full engaged.

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47. "Only one I sat thru was Rza and Preemo"
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shut up already, damn

  

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37. "It doesn't need to cater to folks with short attention spans"
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The music itself has changed enough to cater to short attention spans.
That would be the most miserable thing ever for the people we now consider to be "old school" artists.

But it does deserve a better platform.

  

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41. "yes"
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10 would be better for most artists, but remember.. it started out as superproducer and songwriter thing.. that group usually has more "hits" than your standard recording artist since a lot of their work is recorded by other artists.

Also, I would recommend specific rounds, something like but not limited to this..

Round 1: Debut or Breakthrough Hit
Round 2: Slow Jam
Round 3: Midtempo Jam
Round 4: Uptempo/Dancefloor Hit
Round 5: Collaboration
Round 6: Song from an OST
Round 7: Hit Anthem/Torch Song
Round 8: Live Recording
Round 9: Cover Song
Round 10: Undeniable Classic Banger

something sort of like that so the song matchups are more comparable, or is that doing too much?

  

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42. "doing way too much"
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43. "RE: doing way too much"
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LOL. yeah probably

i just think a little structure could give the competitors a little more edge in preparation so they achieve the maximum amount of punch in their matchups.. of course, I understand that not all artists will have hit songs that neatly fit into every single category that is set up for them.

  

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44. "Another category.."
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Cult Classic Album Cut

  

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54. "Lmao"
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prototype

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believe in love, prepare urself for love, remove the negativity from ur life, and accept the love u kno u deserve

  

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48. "This is a great idea. "
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My general critique is that these events are underproduced but a specific critique is that they should have a moderator who does prep work and facilitates the discussion, keeps the conversation moving and general breaks up to people just pushing play and letting songs play. I think categories would make a lot of sense to put some structure to the program.

These events are hella boring. There is sooo much more that could be done if more thought went into them besides just have people show up with almost no prep and play music. Even a panel discussion requires some prep.



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50. "Apologies accepted here"
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https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=3024504&mesg_id=3024504&page=#3024634

https://youtu.be/3-XxzRIyI_U

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Of course, Jamaicans figured out the sound system...finally.

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51. "Observations after Beenie v Bounty"
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My assumptions were correct, it’s not that they actually “figured out” the sound system. I’ve noticed whenever 2 parties go live together there is a significant loss in bandwidth. Them going live from a singular account eliminated a lot of the technical issues the previous battles experienced. Obviously social distancing was out the door for them, so I can’t see this continuing with other artists...we will see Monday during the 112 vs JE battle.

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52. "Last night was phenomenal!!"
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Hilarious they said we don’t give a fuck about social distancing lmao but that one dancer girl had on a mask.

She said y’all can fuck around if you want to Hahahaha

  

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53. "The “dancer” was Beenie’s daughter"
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I don’t think they threw distancing out the window completely. It was a close knit group from each camp.

  

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56. "man that was fun as hell."
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im not even a big fan of either artist or reggae/dancehall in general but i had a ball.

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55. "Better than Jill vs Erykah"
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and that was great, but this was amazing.

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57. "LOL! They even had Ciroc product placement..."
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58. "I’m not into 112 or Jagged Edge so gonna skip it tonight but "
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just wanna say there’s no way they even have 20 hits together combined lol.

  

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59. "I could put together a good 15 for Jagged Edge"
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Plus 5 album cuts

Not a 112 fan so I don't know about them

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60. "if you're not into them u literally can't say they don't have 20 songs"
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I can cull 20 pretty easily

  

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61. "I heard it was a disaster.. and didn’t even go on as planned"
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Not a fan of either but anytime I hear some old slow jams and ask who did that song it’s usually jagged edge or 112 or one of them mint condition type groups.. lol.

Peaches and Cream tho.. gotdamn that shit is hard af.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=07sz_7s9LUs

shut up already, damn

  

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62. "I didn't watch either lmao but they got fucking hits"
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I'm kinda verzuz'd out, unless it's an artist I ADORE, and the artists I ADORE aren't doing verzuz :/

  

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63. "i havent watched since badu vs jill"
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last few weeks havent been my thing, which is cool. it kind of gives me hope that they will do more niche ones that not everyone is meant to check in for.

  

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