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ThaTruth
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"BlackAF on Netflix..."


          

anybody watching this? kinda corny but kinda funny though, episode 1 has me intrigued...

  

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i heard it should be called light-skinnedAF
Apr 17th 2020
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1. Seems poor timing to release a show about how hard it is to be rich
Apr 17th 2020
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you can't be this clueless
Apr 17th 2020
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You don't think there is a colorism issue in Hollywood?.. exemplified
Apr 17th 2020
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      it’s Hollywood
Apr 17th 2020
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      THE SHOW IS ABOUT HIS REAL LIFE FAMILY
Apr 18th 2020
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           Why you so mad? LOL.
Apr 18th 2020
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                bruh when i'm mad, i don't type in all caps, trust. lol
Apr 18th 2020
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                     You type like DMX talks..
Apr 19th 2020
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                     you know, imma take that as a compliment :)
Apr 19th 2020
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                     .
Apr 19th 2020
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                     .
Apr 19th 2020
                     .
Apr 19th 2020
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I keep seeing people talk about this discussion
Apr 17th 2020
7
Y'all realized this is the dude that CREATED Black-ish?
Apr 17th 2020
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Also people complain about shows and movies about...
Apr 17th 2020
12
Yeah. Not sure if it’s good or not
Apr 17th 2020
4
its a really shit blackish
Apr 17th 2020
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It's actually a more realistic Blackish...
Apr 17th 2020
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      Pretty much! And, so far, it’s all centered around a documentary that ...
Apr 18th 2020
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      It isn’t entertaining to me though
Apr 21st 2020
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      this. which is funny, seeing the the parts that are too assholish for
Apr 26th 2020
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I guess shouts to him for getting multiple checks
Apr 17th 2020
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i know, right? Shit, "write what you know" is the realest shit ever. LOL
Apr 18th 2020
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      yuuuup
Apr 21st 2020
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Seems he just created a receptacle for unused Blackish jokes
Apr 18th 2020
13
I think he was bent on making HIS version of Black-ish and tell the joke...
Apr 18th 2020
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      So it's Kenya's Curb Your Enthusiasm
Apr 18th 2020
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           exactly. so far, i like it.
Apr 18th 2020
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           *ding
Apr 21st 2020
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So the wife has liked it and we have kept watching...and I like it.
Apr 18th 2020
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that tyler perry moment was real (AF). and it hits all kinds of ways.
Apr 26th 2020
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Gradually got better. Episode 4 had me rolling
Apr 18th 2020
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Episode 5 was soooo good
Apr 18th 2020
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Tyler Perry of all people low key dropped some gems in that ep
Apr 19th 2020
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      i know!!! i was like, ok i get him now LOL
Apr 19th 2020
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      he really shut me up with that convo
Apr 19th 2020
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      Yeah he did.
Apr 20th 2020
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      He actually said all of that and more on Sway 3 months ago
Apr 21st 2020
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      Reminded me of the story Walter Mosley told about Gwendolyn Brooks
Apr 21st 2020
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I love it...
Apr 19th 2020
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It's 100% better than I expected it to be
Apr 19th 2020
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me too! and its more like CurbYourOffice-ish
Apr 19th 2020
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      Exactly
Apr 19th 2020
30
I probably have watched 3 episodes of Blackish, ever,,,,
Apr 19th 2020
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It really picks up around episode 3
Apr 19th 2020
36
I couldnt make it through the first episode
Apr 19th 2020
37
I didn't like the first episode either...i kept going though
Apr 19th 2020
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but....dude is so unlikable though
Apr 20th 2020
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      Yeah, that and the language between the parents and kids.....
Apr 20th 2020
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      that’s what’s funny about it...
Apr 20th 2020
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      RE: that’s what’s funny about it...
Apr 20th 2020
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      my favorite line so far...i laughed so hard
Apr 20th 2020
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      THAT'S the one line that got us to full on laugh....
Apr 21st 2020
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      like Better Things ... did anybody watch that? I can't stand the way her
Apr 20th 2020
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      why do i need to like him? I like the show
Apr 20th 2020
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           Excuse me Larry David is not trash
Apr 20th 2020
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                lol sorry i meant his character in the show
Apr 21st 2020
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                     I feel attacked
Apr 21st 2020
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                          :-| lol
Apr 21st 2020
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I feel that way about blackish...
Apr 20th 2020
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hold up...you think the acting on THIS is better than Blackish???!!????
Apr 21st 2020
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      Cmon bruh.. you of all people know how Trin gets down
Apr 21st 2020
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           I say wild shit, she be saying OUTLANDISH shit lol...
Apr 21st 2020
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                lol. whatever, yo...
Apr 21st 2020
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                     You still the homie!!! lol...
Apr 21st 2020
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                          no doubt...
Apr 21st 2020
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word, it was trash.
Apr 22nd 2020
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      I think part of it is people aren’t used to seeing black folks in...
Apr 23rd 2020
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I didn't like the 1st episode at all...
Apr 20th 2020
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I watched the Tyler Perry monologue on Twitter. I dug it.
Apr 20th 2020
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BUT TP isn't trying to make great art. He is trying to entertain his cr...
Apr 20th 2020
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what’s weird is that’s what the episode was about...
Apr 20th 2020
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but the people who love his work think its great.
Apr 20th 2020
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      Haha.. a friend on FB hated this show
Apr 21st 2020
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      I think they enjoy his shows as entertainment, but don't think it's high...
Apr 21st 2020
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           think about who decided the criteria for "high art"
Apr 21st 2020
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                remember the scene with the artwork he bought?
Apr 21st 2020
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                address the points in the post tho
Apr 25th 2020
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                     i actually agree with you. it doesn't have to be the best
Apr 25th 2020
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      Hi Damali! Please don’t reply to my posts. Thanks.
Apr 21st 2020
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           I'll do what i want. Thanks.
Apr 21st 2020
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           Wtf? You a trip
Apr 23rd 2020
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I’m not rich enough to relate, and I question his “blackAFness”...
Apr 20th 2020
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you can relate to being black tho...
Apr 20th 2020
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Lmao
Apr 20th 2020
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you can't relate to a show about "White Gaze"
Apr 21st 2020
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hol’ up...
Apr 20th 2020
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It's tough to relate & be entertained by rich people "Struggle" no matte...
Apr 21st 2020
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What struggle? All his struggles are part of the joke
Apr 21st 2020
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Yeah that's what I mean...it's just harder to feel the humor because it'...
Apr 21st 2020
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      Yeah. Dude is stunting hard
Apr 21st 2020
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I have been switching between this and Schitt's Creek.
Apr 21st 2020
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Add Medical Police and Real Rob and Breeders to you list....
Apr 21st 2020
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We tried Schitts Creek. Doesn’t really appeal
Apr 21st 2020
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its a nouveau riche struggle tho...
Apr 21st 2020
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regarding "there is no average"... I agree...
Apr 21st 2020
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wait, $300K is middle class now?
Apr 21st 2020
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      i honestly have no idea lol
Apr 21st 2020
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      Not in STL
Apr 21st 2020
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           Not anywhere for black people in America
Apr 21st 2020
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whats "middle class" to you
Apr 21st 2020
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      I know what AIN'T lol.... This Is Us is the closest depiction I've seen...
Apr 21st 2020
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      Take the glasses off bro
Apr 21st 2020
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      the black family on This Is Us is ballin iirc
Apr 21st 2020
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           in South Jersey too...
Apr 21st 2020
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      Black "middle class" = white poor
Apr 21st 2020
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           The term middle class is losing its meaning I see
Apr 25th 2020
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                Most definitely. It's all but disappeared for black folks.
Apr 25th 2020
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i just wasnt entertained
Apr 21st 2020
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To open the series with joke turned me off initially.
Apr 21st 2020
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      Kids don’t appreciate shit.
Apr 21st 2020
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1 episode in
Apr 20th 2020
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this show seems very polarizing.
Apr 21st 2020
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you in or out?
Apr 21st 2020
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      haven't got a chance to watch.
Apr 21st 2020
105
"AYE! Don't call me brotherman. Just do the donut shit." best show ever
Apr 21st 2020
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lol.
Apr 21st 2020
110
His voice is annoying but the show is really funny.
Apr 21st 2020
108
I fuck with it....love the ending of that episode where they fight
Apr 21st 2020
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yeah...
Apr 21st 2020
111
I was ready to bail after the first ep but glad I didn’t
Apr 21st 2020
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Nah.....
Apr 22nd 2020
113
The ending was disappointing for me
Apr 22nd 2020
114
I realize his best episodes were the Black on Black Issues.
Apr 22nd 2020
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rich Black people complaining about getting treated like niggas
Apr 22nd 2020
116
      the white gaze is a real thing, I actually see a lot of it in here lol
Apr 22nd 2020
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y'all shoulda said hold judgement until you get to episode 5....
Apr 23rd 2020
119
**daps**
Apr 23rd 2020
120
*whispers*
Apr 23rd 2020
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Crazy seeing the reviews on my FB timeline.
Apr 23rd 2020
122
I really love it.
Apr 23rd 2020
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Rashida Jones was amazing.
Apr 24th 2020
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Was dope to me. I’ll prolly run it back a time or two because it was f...
Apr 23rd 2020
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dude, I’m on my second spin...
Apr 23rd 2020
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      i'm gonna watch again too and i NEVER DO THAT
Apr 25th 2020
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really enjoying it
Apr 25th 2020
132
I’m sure he appreciates as many people watching it as possible
Apr 25th 2020
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I drudged my way through it. I have some thoughts...
Apr 25th 2020
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I appreciate the research.
Apr 25th 2020
138
Word.
Apr 26th 2020
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To be totally clear about a couple of things...
Apr 26th 2020
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a couple of things...
Apr 26th 2020
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      RE: a couple of things...
Apr 26th 2020
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      Yeah you should read the article. It's Rashida speaking in her own word...
Apr 26th 2020
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           its not that deep and I don't really care that much, prior to this all.....
Apr 27th 2020
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                ...
Apr 27th 2020
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                     okayplayer...
Apr 27th 2020
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                          RE: okayplayer...
Apr 27th 2020
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its like Black Curb your Enthusiasm with luxury goods
Apr 25th 2020
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Meh
Apr 26th 2020
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Goodness, you’re problematic across multiple topics
Apr 26th 2020
144
THIS.
Apr 26th 2020
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Pop Culture Humor is annoying
Apr 27th 2020
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      RE: racially ambiguous as Rashida
Apr 27th 2020
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           Some additional facts really inform your points...
Apr 27th 2020
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                Maybe Kenya was taking a dualistic approach to Black AF
Apr 27th 2020
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                     That's one way of looking at it.
Apr 27th 2020
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This was hilarious. The whole cookout episode killed me.
Apr 26th 2020
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"white Juwanna Man" took me out. i wanna see his film tho!
Apr 26th 2020
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      i was dyin' off of that.
Apr 26th 2020
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      LOL the cousin made valid points.
Apr 27th 2020
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this is Kick Your Enthusiasm To The Curb
Apr 26th 2020
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exactly!!
Apr 26th 2020
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It’s the blackest shit I’ve seen on TV since...
Apr 26th 2020
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      Atlanta? Insecure?
Apr 27th 2020
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Finished it: ep 5 was the only legit funny one
Apr 26th 2020
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It's interesting that Tracey Ellis Ross's Rainbow was way less polarizin...
Apr 27th 2020
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Its called "acting". Obviously Barris was not trying to make a show...
Apr 27th 2020
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Kenya said Rashida being biracial is the only thing in common w/ wifey
Apr 27th 2020
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      I think it’s an unfair assessment...
Apr 27th 2020
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      This. its really freakin ridiculous
Apr 27th 2020
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           Ridiculous that Rashida's character isn't based on his wife?
Apr 27th 2020
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                Ridiculous that you think she isn’t Black enough to be cast in that
Apr 27th 2020
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                     I can't take her seriously giving that speech w/o a caveat or expressed
Apr 27th 2020
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                          How serious are we supposed to take anyone on this show?
Apr 28th 2020
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                               That's for you to decide.
Apr 28th 2020
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      This is ridiculous, even in what you quote above she was puzzled
Apr 27th 2020
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           Let's not do that.
Apr 27th 2020
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                Blacker than thou notions should be left in the trash bin. It’s 2020
Apr 27th 2020
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                     The one drop rule should be left in the trash bin. It's 2020
Apr 27th 2020
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And by the way, Kadida and Rashida Jones look very similar
Apr 27th 2020
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Here's a side-by-side
Apr 27th 2020
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link is broken but nah.. they look just alike
Apr 28th 2020
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      That doesn't change the drastically different existence they outlined th...
Apr 28th 2020
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           Sounds like the typical sister rivalry
Apr 28th 2020
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                They both confirm she was perceived as white.
Apr 28th 2020
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                     But this wasn’t due to her complexion.
Apr 28th 2020
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                          “But you look so white!” “You’re not black!”
Apr 28th 2020
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                               Not sure where you grew up but I had more than a few biracial girls
Apr 28th 2020
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How similar they look helps our point.
Apr 28th 2020
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      RE: How similar they look helps our point.
Apr 28th 2020
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      Not sure why people are saying she is miscast.
Apr 28th 2020
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           Sometimes it seems like the joke is she is trying to hard.
Apr 28th 2020
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                I see her as trying too hard
Apr 28th 2020
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HARD PASS
Apr 28th 2020
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What was the movie they bleeped out in episode 5?
May 04th 2020
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Harriet
May 05th 2020
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      Didn’t white people make that?
May 05th 2020
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Kenya and Rashida are duds this makes me appreciate Black-ish more
May 05th 2020
197

luminous
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1. "i heard it should be called light-skinnedAF"
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Sometimes you have to look reality in the face and say 'No!'
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2. "1. Seems poor timing to release a show about how hard it is to be rich"
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2. Makes you appreciate Anthony Anderson as an actor (as someone else on twitter pointed out).

3. It's not fair to say Rashida Jones shouldn't be in a show called Black AF. But there is a color-ism issue going on.

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3. "you can't be this clueless"
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>3. It's not fair to say Rashida Jones shouldn't be in a show
>called Black AF. But there is a color-ism issue going on.

she is MIXED RACE playing a character who is MIXED RACE.

jesus christ.

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5. "You don't think there is a colorism issue in Hollywood?.. exemplified "
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Fri Apr-17-20 07:14 PM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

by, even in a show called Black AF, Kenya Barris continues to only cast predominately bi-racial moms and kids?

Like I said, I don't deny bi-racial folks are black (if they want to be) but there is colorism at work.

So why am I clueless?


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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6. "it’s Hollywood "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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17. "THE SHOW IS ABOUT HIS REAL LIFE FAMILY"
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THE ACTORS LOOK JUST LIKE HIS OWN FAMILY!

this website should be renamed #FauxtepAF

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21. "Why you so mad? LOL. "
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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23. "bruh when i'm mad, i don't type in all caps, trust. lol"
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that shit is called EMPHASIS.

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31. "You type like DMX talks.. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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38. "you know, imma take that as a compliment :)"
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32. "."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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"."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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33. "."
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7. "I keep seeing people talk about this discussion"
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can somebody point me to the center of it?

re: the colorism / rashida shit

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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10. "Y'all realized this is the dude that CREATED Black-ish?"
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>2. Makes you appreciate Anthony Anderson as an actor (as
>someone else on twitter pointed out).
>
>3. It's not fair to say Rashida Jones shouldn't be in a show
>called Black AF. But there is a color-ism issue going on.
>


his ex-wife is actually named Rainbow IRL

  

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12. "Also people complain about shows and movies about..."
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drug dealers and slavery. The Cosby Show & Family Matters have already been done.

  

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4. "Yeah. Not sure if it’s good or not"
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8. "its a really shit blackish"
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the script and cast are extremely poor. really makes you appreciate blackish even more.

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11. "It's actually a more realistic Blackish..."
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or a politically incorrect not watered down for network TV Blackish

  

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14. "Pretty much! And, so far, it’s all centered around a documentary that ..."
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daughter is filming. So, some of his (and the family’s) antics could be spiced up for the camera.

I’ve found some hilarious parts so far in the first three episodes.

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104. "It isn’t entertaining to me though"
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It’s hitting the same beats as blackish, hell the family/cast is almost parallel in roles. But every piece is just dry. And the cast makes or breaks a sitcom to me. Kenya is godawful as a lead for one

And if this is supposed to be his curb than comparing it to that makes it look even worse.

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142. "this. which is funny, seeing the the parts that are too assholish for"
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tv or even real life.


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9. "I guess shouts to him for getting multiple checks"
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for writing shows about himself


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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18. "i know, right? Shit, "write what you know" is the realest shit ever. LOL"
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meanwhile, i'm still too chickenshit to really go there with my writing.... (YET)

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60. "yuuuup"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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13. "Seems he just created a receptacle for unused Blackish jokes"
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Like how you can go on NBC.com and see the sketches from dress rehearsal that didn't make SNL.

  

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15. "I think he was bent on making HIS version of Black-ish and tell the joke..."
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they wouldn't let him tell on network tv when it might have been a bit more original and creative to move on to another project.

What I think is interesting is that he still in his soul is a network TV sitcom writer and deviated less from the style, cadance, subject matter than the more daring programming that FX, Netflix and HBO make like Atlanta, Master of None, Dave, Insecure even Girls.


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16. "So it's Kenya's Curb Your Enthusiasm"
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...without the improv.

  

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19. "exactly. so far, i like it."
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87. "*ding"
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at least that's how it comes off.

it started slow for me but it gets going.

I read some of the backlash on social media, and I stopped cause people just seemed determined to be mad at it.

It's TV.

It's cool.

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20. "So the wife has liked it and we have kept watching...and I like it. "
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But my wife enjoys it because she feels like it hits so close to home. The more I watched the more I got over his acting (or did he get better over time) and the more it became clear he was in on the joke about his out of touchness.

I especially dug the episode about the black art criticism because I be on that wave-length. Loved Tyler Perry's speech.

The more the show goes the more I see what he is trying to do and it's definitely something no one else is doing (and also not EXACTLY what he did on black-ish).



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143. "that tyler perry moment was real (AF). and it hits all kinds of ways. "
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essentially, if you doing shit that the people you are making it for are feeling, do that. don't drive yourself crazy.

that scene w/ him and tp chopping it up was worth the price of admission.


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22. "Gradually got better. Episode 4 had me rolling"
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Stopped at four.

Peace,

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24. "Episode 5 was soooo good"
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I really like the way he self-critiqued...this show hits on multiple levels for me

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25. "Tyler Perry of all people low key dropped some gems in that ep"
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28. "i know!!! i was like, ok i get him now LOL"
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not into his films but like he said, they not for me. i can't be mad

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34. "he really shut me up with that convo"
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My fav episode so far.

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41. "Yeah he did. "
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That episode damn near justified the whole season.
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94. "He actually said all of that and more on Sway 3 months ago"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95LX5FptSiQ#t=4m
start at the 4 minute mark

Ftr, I haven't watched the show. Someone just showed me the part yall are talking about. I guess I thought his Sway interview was more popular than it is.

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99. "Reminded me of the story Walter Mosley told about Gwendolyn Brooks"
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not wanting to sign a petition complaining about Toni Morrison not getting the National Book Award for Beloved. I saw him tell the story in the movie "Toni Morrison: The Pieces I Am." Gwendolyn said, “…why would I want to beg those people for their award? I don’t need them to tell me I’m doing right. We should make our own awards.”

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26. "I love it..."
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27. "It's 100% better than I expected it to be"
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CurbYourEnthusiasm-ish

  

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29. "me too! and its more like CurbYourOffice-ish"
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30. "Exactly"
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35. "I probably have watched 3 episodes of Blackish, ever,,,,"
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my wife watches all of the “-ish” shows, religiously. I was in the room with her with headphones on while she watched this, yesterday...and it was nearly nonstop laughter, from her. Not like chuckling, either...straight up, gut busting laughter. Damn near made me want to watch it.

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36. "It really picks up around episode 3"
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37. "I couldnt make it through the first episode"
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I might try again just for Rashida...but damn...



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39. "I didn't like the first episode either...i kept going though"
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i wanted to see where it was going and i'm glad i did.

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40. "but....dude is so unlikable though"
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42. "Yeah, that and the language between the parents and kids....."
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....just sorta off-putting.
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45. "that’s what’s funny about it..."
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fact is, it’s real life l stuff. when he told the daughter, “someone’s gonna f*ck you up one day”. I died laughing. lol

  

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47. "RE: that’s what’s funny about it..."
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>fact is, it’s real life l stuff. when he told the daughter,
>“someone’s gonna f*ck you up one day”. I died laughing.
>lol

Now that line and the other one about her jaw getting tapped, yeah, funny.

Daughter calling her Dad a dick? nah. Just didn't hit like that to me.



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51. "my favorite line so far...i laughed so hard"
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she knew it was true too lol

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72. "THAT'S the one line that got us to full on laugh...."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
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59. "like Better Things ... did anybody watch that? I can't stand the way her"
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kids talk to her

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50. "why do i need to like him? I like the show"
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some of my favorite things have unlikeable characters

mcnulty was a piece of shit
fuck alonzo
larry david is trash

but the wire, training day and curb were dope af with them in it

kenya is being kenya..and he puts himself as the brunt of many of the jokes

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53. "Excuse me Larry David is not trash"
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I will not stand for this

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61. "lol sorry i meant his character in the show"
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not him as an actual person

he's completely unlikeable on Curb

*nervous tapdance*

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70. "I feel attacked"
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I find him extremely likable and relatable.

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96. ":-| lol"
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44. "I feel that way about blackish..."
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blackAF tho, I’m all in because the acting is much better...

  

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63. "hold up...you think the acting on THIS is better than Blackish???!!????"
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for real for real??!!????


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65. "Cmon bruh.. you of all people know how Trin gets down"
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Y’all are damn near twins.

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68. "I say wild shit, she be saying OUTLANDISH shit lol..."
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73. "lol. whatever, yo..."
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I’m not fond of the acting of Anthony or Tracee. Notice how specific I am about “why“ I don’t like it...

it’s ironic to say you can’t relate to this show but you can relate to blackish. Don’t they portray bring wealthy too?




  

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74. "You still the homie!!! lol..."
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>I’m not fond of the acting of Anthony or Tracee. Notice how
>specific I am about “why“ I don’t like it...
Sorry, I missed that part. I thought you were just talking in general. I feel like if anything they have some of the BEST collection of child and adult actors on network TV in YEARS....

>it’s ironic to say you can’t relate to this show but you
>can relate to blackish. Don’t they portray bring wealthy
>too?
They seem more upper middle class than filthy rich to me....


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75. "no doubt..."
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I guess we can disagree on the acting but, the content is something we all can relate too.

the “white gaze“
being young and having adult children
effects of slavery...



  

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118. "word, it was trash."
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spoof-ish, satirical humor.

It’s not for everyone.

  

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43. "I didn't like the 1st episode at all..."
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But since several folks have said it gets better, I'm gonna give it a few more episodes before I make a final determination.

  

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46. "I watched the Tyler Perry monologue on Twitter. I dug it."
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And that's coming from someone who dislikes Tyler Perry a lot because a lot of his work is absolute trash.

BUT I did dig what he was saying in the monologue, it ALMOST made me be team him but then I remembered that you can have that feeling, that feeling that not everything is for everybody, and still strive to make great art, which he doesn't.

  

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48. "BUT TP isn't trying to make great art. He is trying to entertain his cr..."
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And as long as they are entertained, I can't knock.


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49. "what’s weird is that’s what the episode was about..."
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disagreement on what a good show/movie
that’s why it was so dope to have TP on this episode...



  

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52. "but the people who love his work think its great."
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stop confusing your opinion with fact.

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66. "Haha.. a friend on FB hated this show"
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but he was all in for that terrible Netflix movie with the cussin kid and Taraji

Thats my issue with TP. I don’t like a lot of his stuff but I get why most of my church and hood fam love his movies.

They just want shows that speak to them. Not shows that win emmys and golden globes.

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76. "I think they enjoy his shows as entertainment, but don't think it's high..."
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I don't think I have ever heard anyone who enjoys his movies describe them as one of their all time favorite movies.

It's more like soap operas than liking, I don't know, the Color Purple.

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80. "think about who decided the criteria for "high art""
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white people. because they control most art expressions, they determined what makes it "great"

why can't we make our own distinction?
AND why does everything have to be considered such?

"high art" is meant to be elitist. that concept was designed to exclude certain folks from accessing and understanding it

can you tell that i reject it? LOL

take hip hop...what's considered high quality in hiphop isn't the same as what's considered high quality in any other music genre...cuz we created it and we decide.

no other music genre requires the performer to be the writer of the lyrics or that the lyrics detail lived experience. but we give high marks for that shit in hip hop..we consider it more real and authentic...that matters

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102. "remember the scene with the artwork he bought? "
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the wife just saw it as a all black painting that his wasted money on. It took the artist to explain it before she got it...

This show is beautiful

  

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129. "address the points in the post tho"
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If you ask Black people to name their favorite movie, how many people will name a TP one?

You can like his films without thinking they are the best ever. That was how “high art” was used in the body of the post to which you replied.

I like Dave. I wouldn’t go around saying it’s the best TV show ever tho. And there’s nothing wrong with that.

TP has the right to make his shit. People have the right to critique him. People have the right to like him. Where’s the debate again?

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133. "i actually agree with you. it doesn't have to be the best"
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but even you putting high art in quotations proves my point.

i was taking issue with him using that phrase at all and wasn't disputing the rest of what he said..so no need for me to address it

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79. "Hi Damali! Please don’t reply to my posts. Thanks. "
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I know there’s perhaps a good chance you’ll say something like “I’ll do what I want!” and commit to responding to my posts even more, but in order for me to avoid what I view as recent BS I’m asking you kindly to not reply to my posts.

I am choosing to do this rather than just ignoring your replies because I think this is the more mature route to go.

Again, can’t force you to stop responding to me but I ask, and this is me asking.

That being said, stay safe and be well.

  

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81. "I'll do what i want. Thanks."
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>I know there’s perhaps a good chance you’ll say something
>like “I’ll do what I want!”

yup I typed it before i read this...LOL. it stands.

and commit to responding to
>my posts even more,

you're wrong there. i never look at who posted anything. i reply to subjects that i feel like replying to. i didn't even realize you posted this until this.

therefore, imma keep doing what i normally do. you aren't important enough to me for me to change which things i do or don't post in.

but in order for me to avoid what I view
>as recent BS I’m asking you kindly to not reply to my
>posts.

that's nice. and i'm kindly declining.

>I am choosing to do this rather than just ignoring your
>replies because I think this is the more mature route to go.

actually no. ignoring is best. try that.

>Again, can’t force you to stop responding to me but I ask,
>and this is me asking.

and this is me, again, politely declining.

>That being said, stay safe and be well.

Same to you. Truly.

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125. "Wtf? You a trip"
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and watch your tone

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54. "I’m not rich enough to relate, and I question his “blackAFness”..."
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But I’m giving him a pass because Blackish is just THAT good...
The kids annoy me....
A lot of modern day stereotypes going on which I’m sure (or i at least HOPE) is by design.
I think Real Rob id a better Curb Your Enthusiasm rip off than this...



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56. "you can relate to being black tho..."
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yes, richer people are privileged (hence, the cussing children, lol) but in the end...still niggas.

  

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58. "Lmao"
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107. "you can't relate to a show about "White Gaze""
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**********
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55. "hol’ up..."
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I rewatched episode one. what’s are folks complaining about again?



  

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62. "It's tough to relate & be entertained by rich people "Struggle" no matte..."
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the race...For me anyway...

I'm still holding out for a good quality show that depicts life of an average middle class Black family.


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64. "What struggle? All his struggles are part of the joke"
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and yes, I know your “struggle” is air quotes.

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67. "Yeah that's what I mean...it's just harder to feel the humor because it'..."
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a reach to identify with the root of the joke....
I know I'm not being as clear with what I'm trying to say lol...
But to me..what makes sitcom humor, and humor in general, work is when you can relate to some morsel of it and then it just makes the punchline that much better....

We're only like 4 eps deep right now..... It's gotten a few chuckles and maybe 1 hearty laugh...
We're gonna watch the whole thing of course...


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78. "Yeah. Dude is stunting hard"
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thats obviously part of the joke but it can rub you the wrong way if you let it.

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69. "I have been switching between this and Schitt's Creek."
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Honestly, I don't like either. I am only watching this because of OKP and Schitt's Creek because of my (white) coworkers. Just trying to see what other people see but I can't.

♥ Inescapably Me ♥

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71. "Add Medical Police and Real Rob and Breeders to you list...."
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Breeders might only appeal to couples with young kids though......
Schitts Creek was entertaining...but I don't think we finished it.
Medical Police though....there are some serious cameo's and the humor is Airplane & Naked Gun level....


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77. "We tried Schitts Creek. Doesn’t really appeal"
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We’ve watched about 6 episodes of BAF.

It’s good.

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82. "its a nouveau riche struggle tho..."
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which could happen to any of us striving for success

look at Desus...imagine him making a show about when his success popped and how that money changed his life. i'd watch the hell outta that too.

>I'm still holding out for a good quality show that depicts
>life of an average middle class Black family.

which is what exactly, cuz i'd argue that that doesn't exist. there is no "average"...the black experience is so diverse so why do people want so badly to see it depicted in one way? i can guarantee you that if you found 20 black families all making around $300,000 a year (is that middle class enough?), i bet your their lives are all completely different.

and lastly, if you want to see that show, you make it. shit, i'm a writer...let's go. write that shit and pitch it.


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86. "regarding "there is no average"... I agree... "
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88. "wait, $300K is middle class now?"
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>which could happen to any of us striving for success
>
>look at Desus...imagine him making a show about when his
>success popped and how that money changed his life. i'd watch
>the hell outta that too.
>
>>I'm still holding out for a good quality show that depicts
>>life of an average middle class Black family.
>
>which is what exactly, cuz i'd argue that that doesn't exist.
>there is no "average"...the black experience is so diverse so
>why do people want so badly to see it depicted in one way? i
>can guarantee you that if you found 20 black families all
>making around $300,000 a year (is that middle class enough?),
>i bet your their lives are all completely different.
>
>and lastly, if you want to see that show, you make it. shit,
>i'm a writer...let's go. write that shit and pitch it.
>
>
>d
>
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95. "i honestly have no idea lol"
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97. "Not in STL"
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100. "Not anywhere for black people in America"
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You're in the top 5% of black people in America if your household is worth $350,000, statistically speaking.

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84. "whats "middle class" to you"
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cause we've had middle class black sitcoms before.

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85. "I know what AIN'T lol.... This Is Us is the closest depiction I've seen..."
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what I'd call a middle class Black family though.....



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90. "Take the glasses off bro"
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300K is considered rich to 95% of Black Americans.

We need to stop using the white definition for middle class.

We get an Oprah and Jay and act like that shit is normal.

We rarely acquire that type of wealth.

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91. "the black family on This Is Us is ballin iirc"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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93. "in South Jersey too... "
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101. "Black "middle class" = white poor"
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130. "The term middle class is losing its meaning I see"
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Peace,

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131. "Most definitely. It's all but disappeared for black folks."
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Highest income inequality since the late 1800s.
Not to mention wealth inequality among black folks is higher than among the general pop.

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83. "i just wasnt entertained"
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all this stuff about them being rich or rashida not being black enough is funny to me.

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89. "To open the series with joke turned me off initially. "
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phvtajVr718





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92. "Kids don’t appreciate shit. "
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57. "1 episode in"
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and i'm down. i was a bit worried in the beginning but, yeah...seems
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98. "this show seems very polarizing."
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like, the only thing i've seen is people basically hate it or they love it (with a few "it's a better/worse black-ish takes mixed in).

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103. "you in or out? "
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105. "haven't got a chance to watch."
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106. ""AYE! Don't call me brotherman. Just do the donut shit." best show ever"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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110. "lol. "
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“I’ll f*ck Jim up”
“F*ck Jim!”

  

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108. "His voice is annoying but the show is really funny."
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I haven’t ever missed an episode of blackish so it’s hard not to see this as Rated-R blackish.

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109. "I fuck with it....love the ending of that episode where they fight"
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cuz it’s exactly like that sometimes, no real resolution... but with the clear understanding we still in this shit together

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that was beautiful 😢

I’m going to take a bath and you’re welcomed to join me...

  

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Funny and good show

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114. "The ending was disappointing for me"
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I was shocked when it ended.

That’s it?

I wonder if they get another season.


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115. "I realize his best episodes were the Black on Black Issues. "
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It's hard to relate with him complaining about how hard it is to be a rich black man in white America. I find Kanye and Jay-Z annoying when they complain about how they get treated at the LV store or in first class.

The two strongest episodes I think were about him talking and dealing with other black creators (episode 5) and the the highlight of the show was him dealing with his family (Bold Prediction: Mike Epps will get an Oscar in the next 10 years).

In other words, the show Black AF needs more black people.


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116. "rich Black people complaining about getting treated like niggas"
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shouldn’t upset you

I guess if they act shocked it can be off putting.

But it’s just another example that money doesn’t erase your black skin.

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117. "the white gaze is a real thing, I actually see a lot of it in here lol"
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119. "y'all shoulda said hold judgement until you get to episode 5...."
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Binge watching culture...I swear... lol
I'm more on board now...


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They did. LOL.

  

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122. "Crazy seeing the reviews on my FB timeline. "
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The educated well of Black folk love this show

My hood friends and Tyler Perry church fans... not feeling it at all.

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124. "I really love it."
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I listened to everyone here and stuck it out past the first ep and I'm all in. Two casting notes...

1. I'm sure I'm embarrassingly late on this but I didn't know Rashida Jones had it in her. Am enjoying her in this role.

2. I'm in the minority of people who actually really like Kenya, here. He does a lot without doing much, in my opinion, with his face and tone. Every time he hits a 'what is happening right now?' I feel it in my soul and crack up.



  

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128. "Rashida Jones was amazing. "
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I really think this is a ground breaking show. I have wanted something like this for a very long time. I like Black Patriarch tv shows. They do reflect an uncelebrated aspect of Black success, confident, intelligent wealthy Black men. I am happy he got a chance to speak to so many issues in a light hearted way.

Great writers, actors, scenery and rhythm to the show.

Kenya was hilarious. His timing was spot on.

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I thoroughly enjoyed this R-rated (or PG-13) version of his depicted life just as much as I like the G or PG tv version.

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134. "i'm gonna watch again too and i NEVER DO THAT"
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I've never rewatched immediately...its just so good and layered

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about half way through


also not black so who cares what i think lol

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135. "I’m sure he appreciates as many people watching it as possible "
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>about half way through
>
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>also not black so who cares what i think lol

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136. "I drudged my way through it. I have some thoughts..."
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Upfront, lemme say that I have no problem with black ppl in satirical comedy or even with them being rich and in the top 5% of black people financially. I like seeing black people in different kinds of film (one of the reasons I love "Sorry To Bother You"), and I don't mind us being depicted as rich. I understand that people often watch tv as sort of an escape FROM their reality (it's why I enjoy sci-fi), and that's cool as long we understand that that's what it is.

Just wanted to get that outta the way.

I'll start with the cons so at least I'll be ending on a slightly more positive note.

Cons... (verbose but there are only 2 major ones)
Let's start with what everyone said about staying until episode 5. The show doesn't change after episode 5. Tyler Perry's speech is the only great thing about it, and Tyler Perry said the exact same thing on Sway In The Morning just 3 months ago. He even said more and added alot more depth to it on Sway. If you're watching this and pushing yourself to make it to episode 5, just watch that Sway interview and save yourself a LOT of time. If you don't like the show before then, you won't like it after. Also, even IF the show got better after episode 5, that's over 60% of the show that sucks lol. There are only 8 episodes. Moving on...

He's the only person from his old neighborhood depicted as responsible with any decency and social awareness. His friend Broadway is a proud deadbeat dad, and his whole family has immediately visible issues. Ionno man... that was really weird to me. It looked like he was telling us how he views the bottom 95% of black people, b/c the only other normal black people in the show were somewhere around his tax bracket. Moving on...

Before I say this next part, please read this:
KIDADA: I was kicked out of Buckley in second grade for behavior problems. I didn’t want my mother to come to my new school. If kids saw her, it would be: “your mom’s white!” I told Mom she couldn’t pick me up; she had to wait down the street in her car. Did Rashida have that problem? No! She passed for white.

RASHIDA: “Passed”?! I had no control over how I looked. … Today I feel guilty, knowing that because of the way our genes tumbled out, Kidada had to go through pain I didn’t have to endure. Loving her so much, I’m sad that I’ll never share that experience with her.

^^That's Rashida and her sister talking about growing up. In the same article, Rashida talks about how she felt comfortable with her white grandparents while her sister didn't (solely due to their skin color). Please notice that she's talking about NEVER HAVING TO ENDURE the pain of being black, being rejected by white people, etc. That was her sister's pain... and her pain was that she couldn't feel her sister's pain.
And that's why I think her black mannerisms in this show looked so off to me. Even when she was giving the speech about black women's struggle during the interview, it just didn't look authentic at all to me. She moved and sounded like a white woman who still says "flava." I feel like Mary Elizabeth Winstead would've looked exactly like that, delivering the same lines. Maybe that's supposed to be part of the authenticity, but I can't take it seriously coming from someone who has literally said she never experienced the pain of being black. This is the worst kind of trolling.



Pros...
I thought some of the humor was good. It legit got some laughs outta me. Enjoyed the way he highlighted how under-appreciated (black) fathers are. The private jet scene right after he says he's gonna be a hero for his family, I thought was the pinnacle of that here. The way family issues are handled here is well done imo. The fight with no resolution, the sibling jealousy over the intimate partner, worrying about their daughter being a potential ho, etc.
I can appreciate his effort to tie everything back to slavery. There's some attempt at consciousness here that I can dig, even if I think it's half done... at least it's there.



Overall this was hard for me to sit through, but I paid attention just to see what the hoopla was about. I just feel relieved that it's over. I'm also not a comedy sitcom type of person either tho. For people who are a fan of this kind of show, I'd probably recommend it just based on my list of pros.

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138. "I appreciate the research. "
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I feel like you did what I did. After the "Is Rashida Jones Black?" debate, I searched the net and the most I got her saying "I'm ethnic" and the Galmour article you referred to. The article about how Kidada grew u black and Rashida grew up white.

I've met Bi-racial people who claim black. and I met Bi-racial people who identify as "Bi-racial". I've met Bi-racial people who pass (Don't know any who identify as white but how would I know, they are passing).

So the whole, "Of course Rashida is black, here dad is Quincy Jones" sounds like some BS to me...but I don't have the energy to argue Rashida Jones blackness with anyone because its a nuanced complex subject. I feel like she has claimed different statuses through her life which is her right...I guess...but I am not sure anyone can say without a doubt she is black.














>Upfront, lemme say that I have no problem with black ppl in
>satirical comedy or even with them being rich and in the top
>5% of black people financially. I like seeing black people in
>different kinds of film (one of the reasons I love "Sorry To
>Bother You"), and I don't mind us being depicted as rich. I
>understand that people often watch tv as sort of an escape
>FROM their reality (it's why I enjoy sci-fi), and that's cool
>as long we understand that that's what it is.
>
>Just wanted to get that outta the way.
>
>I'll start with the cons so at least I'll be ending on a
>slightly more positive note.
>
>Cons... (verbose but there are only 2 major ones)
>Let's start with what everyone said about staying until
>episode 5. The show doesn't change after episode 5. Tyler
>Perry's speech is the only great thing about it, and Tyler
>Perry said the exact same thing on Sway In The Morning just 3
>months ago. He even said more and added alot more depth to it
>on Sway. If you're watching this and pushing yourself to make
>it to episode 5, just watch that Sway interview and save
>yourself a LOT of time. If you don't like the show before
>then, you won't like it after. Also, even IF the show got
>better after episode 5, that's over 60% of the show that sucks
>lol. There are only 8 episodes. Moving on...
>
>He's the only person from his old neighborhood depicted as
>responsible with any decency and social awareness. His friend
>Broadway is a proud deadbeat dad, and his whole family has
>immediately visible issues. Ionno man... that was really weird
>to me. It looked like he was telling us how he views the
>bottom 95% of black people, b/c the only other normal black
>people in the show were somewhere around his tax bracket.
>Moving on...
>
>Before I say this next part, please read this:
>KIDADA: I was kicked out of Buckley in second grade for
>behavior problems. I didn’t want my mother to come to my new
>school. If kids saw her, it would be: “your mom’s
>white!” I told Mom she couldn’t pick me up; she had to
>wait down the street in her car. Did Rashida have that
>problem? No! She passed for white.
>
>RASHIDA: “Passed”?! I had no control over how I looked.
>… Today I feel guilty, knowing that because of the way our
>genes tumbled out, Kidada had to go through pain I didn’t
>have to endure. Loving her so much, I’m sad that I’ll
>never share that experience with her.
>
>^^That's Rashida and her sister talking about growing up. In
>the same article, Rashida talks about how she felt comfortable
>with her white grandparents while her sister didn't (solely
>due to their skin color). Please notice that she's talking
>about NEVER HAVING TO ENDURE the pain of being black, being
>rejected by white people, etc. That was her sister's pain...
>and her pain was that she couldn't feel her sister's pain.
>And that's why I think her black mannerisms in this show
>looked so off to me. Even when she was giving the speech about
>black women's struggle during the interview, it just didn't
>look authentic at all to me. She moved and sounded like a
>white woman who still says "flava." I feel like Mary Elizabeth
>Winstead would've looked exactly like that, delivering the
>same lines. Maybe that's supposed to be part of the
>authenticity, but I can't take it seriously coming from
>someone who has literally said she never experienced the pain
>of being black. This is the worst kind of trolling.
>
>
>
>Pros...
>I thought some of the humor was good. It legit got some laughs
>outta me. Enjoyed the way he highlighted how under-appreciated
>(black) fathers are. The private jet scene right after he says
>he's gonna be a hero for his family, I thought was the
>pinnacle of that here. The way family issues are handled here
>is well done imo. The fight with no resolution, the sibling
>jealousy over the intimate partner, worrying about their
>daughter being a potential ho, etc.
>I can appreciate his effort to tie everything back to slavery.
>There's some attempt at consciousness here that I can dig,
>even if I think it's half done... at least it's there.
>
>
>
>Overall this was hard for me to sit through, but I paid
>attention just to see what the hoopla was about. I just feel
>relieved that it's over. I'm also not a comedy sitcom type of
>person either tho. For people who are a fan of this kind of
>show, I'd probably recommend it just based on my list of
>pros.


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145. "Word."
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>I feel like you did what I did. After the "Is Rashida Jones
>Black?" debate, I searched the net and the most I got her
>saying "I'm ethnic" and the Galmour article you referred to.
>The article about how Kidada grew u black and Rashida grew up
>white.



Truth be told, my disinterest in the show came from the fact that I read that article years ago. I knew she'd experienced life as a white person, so her being cast in "#blackAF" was immediately off-putting to me. With all the praise the show as getting, I thought maybe this was addressed in the show or something. I should've known better tho lol. They really got her wearing fake pain.



>I've met Bi-racial people who claim black. and I met
>Bi-racial people who identify as "Bi-racial". I've met
>Bi-racial people who pass (Don't know any who identify as
>white but how would I know, they are passing).
>
>So the whole, "Of course Rashida is black, here dad is Quincy
>Jones" sounds like some BS to me...but I don't have the energy
>to argue Rashida Jones blackness with anyone because its a
>nuanced complex subject. I feel like she has claimed different
>statuses through her life which is her right...I guess...but I
>am not sure anyone can say without a doubt she is black.


I've actually argued that she's white b/c she's experienced her entire life as a white person and was born into wealth (with white grandparents' acceptance to boot), so the lineage argument about generational disadvantage doesn't even apply to her. Technically, she has "black blood", but so does Ronda Rousy. We wouldn't accept her playing a black person tho. Add in the fact that Rashida has *literally* said she never experienced the pain of being black, and honestly I lost respect for HER for even accepting this role. She obviously doesn't need my respect, but I think it would've shown a lot of integrity on her part had she said she couldn't accept the role due to never having truly lived a black experience... especially since she's actually said that publicly before. Just my view tho. *shrugs*

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146. "To be totally clear about a couple of things..."
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When I talked Kenya's silent statement about the bottom 95% of black people and I say his whole family has immediately visible issues, I'm talking about the cookout episode and his family from Inglewood, not his immediate family living in the house.

Also, when I say Rashida never had to endure the pain of being black, being rejected by white people, etc... I'm saying she was never rejected by white people (she says this herself). That's her sister's pain. I just realized that sentence might read like I'm saying she was rejected by white people, depending on how it's interpreted.

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147. "a couple of things..."
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sounds like you're projecting your own personal issues with Rashida Jones based off one article onto the show. With a name like "Rashida Jones" I wonder how hard was it for her to "pass" as white. Growning up in Bel-Air as Quincy Jones' daughters I'd imagine they both had an upbringing somewhat similar to the kids in the show.

Also, the show is basically a parody of Barris' life and Black-ish where a black dude has a bi-racial wife named Rainbow, the name of Barris' actual wife who looks lite, brite, and damn near white in every pic I've seen.

Secondly, Rashida was hilarious and low-key stole the show.

Most black people that have succeeded and attained significant wealth in entertainment, sports, as well as other areas, a lot of them still have extended families like the one depicted in the show, not "weird" at all. Some of them still associate with their possibly "less evolved" friends from back in the day as cited by specific examples in the show lol.

All the episodes were hilarious and built on each other. From the relationship between Barris and Rashida, to each one of the kids. He basically says everything he wanted to say on Black-ish but couldn't.

The 2nd episode with them buying the molly and going to the concert was hilarious. I met up with some friends in their 40's at a recent Chris Brown show and we had similar experiences minus the molly lol.

  

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148. "RE: a couple of things..."
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>sounds like you're projecting your own personal issues with
>Rashida Jones based off one article onto the show. With a name
>like "Rashida Jones" I wonder how hard was it for her to
>"pass" as white. Growning up in Bel-Air as Quincy Jones'
>daughters I'd imagine they both had an upbringing somewhat
>similar to the kids in the show.


You don't have to imagine. They tell you in the article I cited:
https://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/quincy-jones-daughters-reveal-why-they-had-issues-with-their-blackness/
There's a link there that leads to a copy of the full article as well.


With all due respect, what you've said here doesn't make sense, and I'm not trying to smash on you or anything. This is a discussion, so I'm going to explain why I'm saying that (provided it's not clear from reading that article).
Again, Rashida **literally** said she didn't experience the pain of white rejection. She grew up as a white person. It's hard for her to admit, but she does admit that. Even her white grandparents were more accepting of her than her sister.
Also, growing up in school, kids aren't deciding who they fool with based on a name at the top of a resume. It's about how you appear. She looked white and was accepted as such. At most, it'll be novel that they have a white friend named Rashida. To add to this, their very white and blond mom, Peggy, used to pick them up from school. It was her sister Kidada whose circle looked at her weird, especially in the white school they went to as small children.





>Also, the show is basically a parody of Barris' life and
>Black-ish where a black dude has a bi-racial wife named
>Rainbow, the name of Barris' actual wife who looks lite,
>brite, and damn near white in every pic I've seen.
>


Yeah I get that. Rashida is also the only person on the show who's not based on his actual family member. His children on the show are based on his actual children, but his wife isn't based on his actual wife (well, ex-wife now).
https://www.newsweek.com/blackaf-kenya-barris-wife-rainbow-149960



>
>Most black people that have succeeded and attained significant
>wealth in entertainment, sports, as well as other areas, a lot
>of them still have extended families like the one depicted in
>the show, not "weird" at all. Some of them still associate
>with their possibly "less evolved" friends from back in the
>day as cited by specific examples in the show lol.




I don't indicate that they don't. I brought up that that's the ONLY kind of person he depicts from his old neighborhood. I was just waiting on ONE person from there who was normal. I got knucklehead friends and family from my old neighborhood too, but I also have normal, responsible friends and family who still live there.



>All the episodes were hilarious and built on each other. From
>the relationship between Barris and Rashida, to each one of
>the kids. He basically says everything he wanted to say on
>Black-ish but couldn't.



I'm not knocking you for liking the show.



>The 2nd episode with them buying the molly and going to the
>concert was hilarious. I met up with some friends in their
>40's at a recent Chris Brown show and we had similar
>experiences minus the molly lol.



Cool.



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153. "Yeah you should read the article. It's Rashida speaking in her own word..."
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So you don't have to speculate how she grew up. She was very upfront about it.

In fact, the only difficulties she speaks about receiving from other people were the black people at Harvard being mean to her and that pushing her more in the white direction.

Of course it's a 10+ article so maybe she's has had some new experiences that have changed how she views it...but today it seems to me to be the actress that has the privelege of being ethnically ambiguous allowing her to play black and white roles and everything in between.


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162. "its not that deep and I don't really care that much, prior to this all....."
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I knew was that Quincy Jones had 2 biracial daughters and one was dating Tupac at the time he died.

The fact that one "passed for white" while her sister 2 years old at the same school and looks almost identical didn't is whatever.

I've personally known bi-racial siblings who grew up in the same house but identified with opposite sides of their racial heritage.

The whole "bi-racial" identity thing has been discussed on this board a million times.

I liked Rashida's character on the show.

  

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165. "..."
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You don't care that much but you're trying to belittle thoughtful commentary on the show? Make it make sense.

You've replied to me with an untrue assumption about the character being based on his wife. When I proved that wrong, you completely ignored it.

Before that, you accused me of injecting personal views about her when I'm only talking about her actual words. When that's brought to your attention, now it's "well it ain't that deep."

I don't understand why yall feel threatened when people critique stuff yall like. The whole center of all your responses has been "but the show good tho."


>The fact that one "passed for white" while her sister 2 years
>old at the same school and looks almost identical didn't is
>whatever.



If you wanna downplay the point, at least be honest and pay attention the words you're typing. They don't look almost identical, and there's 2 years difference between them. One of them passing for white her whole life definitely isn't "whatever" in a discussion like this. For future reference, this isn't a discussion until you can say WHY it's "whatever." Otherwise, it's just dismissive, which is borderline offensive when folks tryna have a real discussion. Why do I have to teach yall this kind of stuff?


>I've personally known bi-racial siblings who grew up in the
>same house but identified with opposite sides of their racial
>heritage.



Ok? What does this add to the discussion? Do you have a point attached or just telling us a piece of your life story?



>The whole "bi-racial" identity thing has been discussed on
>this board a million times.



Not in this context and not with quotes from someone who said what Rashida said. If you can't separate this from whatever conversation you've had a million times, this is probably out of your league.


>I liked Rashida's character on the show.


And that's really the bottom line. You liked it, and that's enough for you. You don't care about any criticism or that your assumption about the basis for her character is wrong. I have no problem with that UNTIL you come talking about I'm "projecting my personal views" and whatnot. Don't make these accusations and then hide your hand when that gets run through the meat grinder on some Carole Baskin shxt.





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167. "okayplayer..."
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like I said its not that deep. I like the show and I like Rashida's character on the show. I haven't done deep research on the Jones sisters to determine how black they are or how they identified as children.


You seem to be well versed in that area and if you want to count that as a win I will kiss the rings.

  

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168. "RE: okayplayer..."
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>like I said its not that deep. I like the show and I like
>Rashida's character on the show. I haven't done deep research
>on the Jones sisters to determine how black they are or how
>they identified as children.
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>You seem to be well versed in that area and if you want to
>count that as a win I will kiss the rings.


My bad if I come off like I'm trying to "win." That ain't the goal. I'm just trying to facilitate thoughtful discussion by adding my 2 cents to the pot, some facts to consider and hear what others have to add.

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137. "its like Black Curb your Enthusiasm with luxury goods"
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139. "Meh"
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I tried

Watched about 6 eps...didn’t really LOL

The situations are funnier than the characters and dialogue IMO

I think the errors are casting IMO

Parroting a reply above...OMG I CAN’T STAND HIS VOICE

He sounds like a whiny toddler trying to wear down his parents on an unreasonable request

He looks like a bigger dude
from Inglewood...?
and whenever he talks it sounds like...whiny lil beeyotch

I also think Rasheeda was a mistake
Her previous roles felt like she was passing
Hard to take her blackness serious...based on previous roles

If this was suppose to be a harder hitting, unfiltered blackish
The show suffers from the casting of the parents

+one of my bigger issues with another series, Billions, was the constant obscure pop culture references...that everyone immediately gets
This show does that in a similar way...that’s also frustrating

I’ve given up.

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144. "Goodness, you’re problematic across multiple topics "
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>
>I also think Rasheeda was a mistake
>Her previous roles felt like she was passing
>Hard to take her blackness serious...based on previous roles
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150. "THIS."
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156. "Pop Culture Humor is annoying "
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I do not like when shows make references to pop culture as if it is real. It is contrived. So if you joke about Jussie Smollet or some other dated event, it makes the show less classic and more In Living Color-ish.

Casting was fine. This man's real life wife was as light and racially ambiguous as Rashida. I think that there is a voice for the light skinned passing black woman that is more than a tragedy, sexual object or fetish.

I liked Rashida because she never showed too much skin, she behaved like a mom and she didn't let her light skinned-ness become a go to joke or predictable beauty standard.

I don't think Rashida is really a BEAUTIFUL light skinned woman. She is not ugly, but she is a standard attractive woman with a normal body. I know light skinned women like this who don't use that to make themselves feel better than brown/dark skinned women. I think Steph Curry's mom has this energy. I hope Rashida's character will break light skinned women stereotypes and open more scenes with black /brown women redefining beauty and relationships in Hollywood.

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158. "RE: racially ambiguous as Rashida"
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I think the problem I'm having with her casting...is the reality show/documentary angle of the show

We're given alot of actual reality...Kenya is playing himself
The other characters are based on his real life kids and wife
Occupation
Etc...

It's difficult for me to separate Rashida's real life with her role

I'm suppose to believe Peggy Lipton's daughter, born and raised in Bel-Air, Harvard graduate, romantically linked to white men

Is the Black AF mother of 6 black kids, married to the Black AF creator of Blackish

It's a big ask, a huge acting challenge, and TBH, I never separated Rashida Jones from Joya

I get that it's satire...but I just never get there with Rashida's role.

"I hope Rashida's character will break light skinned women stereotypes"

This is what I was referencing IRT her roles to date

She seems to get alot of those racially ambiguous roles

She dated a white man in both the Office and Parks and Recs

Which I would assume are her most notable roles

...and I would imagine didn't have black writers, writing for her...

Those were probably roles meant for white women.

Maybe someone like a Maya Rudolf would have been more believable...?

Anyway, in the end...it just wasn't funny to me

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159. "Some additional facts really inform your points..."
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>We're given alot of actual reality...Kenya is playing himself
>The other characters are based on his real life kids and wife
>Occupation
>Etc...


Rashida's role in #blackAF actually isn't based on Kenya's wife IRL. People are just going with that because of her complexion.
https://www.newsweek.com/blackaf-kenya-barris-wife-rainbow-1499603
His kids are based on his actual children tho... some even share nicknames.


>It's difficult for me to separate Rashida's real life with her
>role
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>I'm suppose to believe Peggy Lipton's daughter, born and
>raised in Bel-Air, Harvard graduate, romantically linked to
>white men
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>Is the Black AF mother of 6 black kids, married to the Black
>AF creator of Blackish
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>It's a big ask, a huge acting challenge, and TBH, I never
>separated Rashida Jones from Joya
>
>I get that it's satire...but I just never get there with
>Rashida's role.


I don't think it can be overstated that both her and sister Kidada said that Rashida grew up as a white person and never experienced the pain of being black (her sister used the word "passing" which Rashida didn't like, b/c she associates that with effort, but the fact remains)... so when she gives a speech about how "WE black women" have had it rough, that's just disingenuous.
https://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/quincy-jones-daughters-reveal-why-they-had-issues-with-their-blackness/




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>"I hope Rashida's character will break light skinned women
>stereotypes"
>
>This is what I was referencing IRT her roles to date
>
>She seems to get alot of those racially ambiguous roles
>
>She dated a white man in both the Office and Parks and Recs
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>Which I would assume are her most notable roles
>



Word. I just want to reiterate here that it's beyond the roles she plays. She hasn't experienced a black persons's life, period. Earlier you said the reality/documentary style of the show makes it extra hard to believe, and I agree with you there. I'm thinking that's why there even had to be an article that says Rashida's not based on Rania. Everything's based in reality except her. Also, from reading Rashida's own statements, you can see that she always WANTED to have a black experience (says it hurt that she couldn't share her sister's pain)... but she wants to put it on and take it off... much like Dolezal tbf.


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161. "Maybe Kenya was taking a dualistic approach to Black AF"
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He being the example of overcoming the obstacles of a black man from Inglewood...to attain success...and struggling to keep his black identity through that process

juxtaposed with Rashida being of a privileged background, liteskinneded enough to pass...and constantly overcompensating to try to prove she is indeed Black AF

I get that through the satire...and for some reason her hip-hop dance classes really enforced that duality

...that might be a leap in trying to justify the roles...

?

But I'll always come back to the fact...that I just didn't find it funny

+, I think Robin Thede woulda killed

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164. "That's one way of looking at it."
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>He being the example of overcoming the obstacles of a black
>man from Inglewood...to attain success...and struggling to
>keep his black identity through that process
>
>juxtaposed with Rashida being of a privileged background,
>liteskinneded enough to pass...and constantly overcompensating
>to try to prove she is indeed Black AF
>
>I get that through the satire...and for some reason her
>hip-hop dance classes really enforced that duality
>
>...that might be a leap in trying to justify the roles...
>
>?




I actually think that's what he was going for in a sense (I also got the sense that he thinks he's better than those from his past based on how he depicted them, but that's another story). I just think they shot the attempt to hell when they had Rashida give some speech about black pain from a "we" perspective when she's lived her whole life on the outside of that pain, looking in.

If somebody called her on that in the show, and she had to admit they were right? That would've worked for me. Hell she already admitted it IRL. The show is dishonest in that way and asks us to pretend we don't see the person who's playing the role imo. It wants to confront race and play games with it simultaneously.



>But I'll always come back to the fact...that I just didn't
>find it funny
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Word.


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140. "This was hilarious. The whole cookout episode killed me."
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I had extremely low expectations for kenya after his last spinoffs but he came through.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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151. ""white Juwanna Man" took me out. i wanna see his film tho!"
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154. "i was dyin' off of that. "
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171. "LOL the cousin made valid points."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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141. "this is Kick Your Enthusiasm To The Curb"
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somebody up here made the kenya barris doing a larry david observation and that really made it click for me.



episode w/ tyler perry and the cookout was amazing.

and there was levels to the high council of blackness he assembled.


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152. "exactly!!"
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>and there was levels to the high council of blackness he
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and yes! I want to explore this more...i feel like there were levels to this I was missing. please expound? cuz i don't even know who the guy on the far left of the screen was

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155. "It’s the blackest shit I’ve seen on TV since..."
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the Cosby show. dare I say! It’s a shame many get so caught up in the visions because it’s such a beautifully written show. but, you know...



  

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157. "Atlanta? Insecure? "
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Those things exist.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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149. "Finished it: ep 5 was the only legit funny one "
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Broadway is awesome and the oldest girls boyfriend is pretty funny.

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Which to me tells me that it really isn't about the Rashida Jones being Bi-racial. Personally, I don't have a problem with the character being bi-racial if that's reflecting Barris' life and that was fundamental to her character ...being caught between both worlds.

Rashida has voiced being not as comfortable in black settings and it shows. Now, if that was the source of the character, that would make a lot of sense and could be done well, but that's not how the character is portrayed.

But Rashida plays it like a white girl trying to play a down black girl. Tracee Ellis Ross comes off waaay more authentic. Rashida is trying too hard and looks goofy in her cornrows.

Now I don't know anything about the real life rainbow but from the couple of interviews I have seen of her and seeing they met in high school I get the impression that the real raina grew up around black people and is comfortable in that setting.

Alright. I've said enough on this subject.
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163. "Its called "acting". Obviously Barris was not trying to make a show..."
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EXACTLY like Black-ish.

  

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166. "Kenya said Rashida being biracial is the only thing in common w/ wifey"
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"The wife character is not so much based upon my kids' mom other than her being biracial. I really took a different approach with this time—I wanted her to be a little bit more militant and a little more zany"
https://www.newsweek.com/blackaf-kenya-barris-wife-rainbow-1499603

Apparently Tracee's character was more based on Rania than Rashida's character.


I just find it rather backwards that he chose somebody who admits never experiencing life as a black person to be the militant one, giving speeches about what "we" experience.

^I also think that's important for everyone who keeps saying the wife character is based on his actual wife... especially in response to critiques of her militancy, because that's one of the things that actually deviates from her personality.


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169. "I think it’s an unfair assessment..."
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all of it.

It’s TV he chose an actress who he thought could play the part. I really can’t believe we’re discuss how black someone is not - when the content is so damn good.

  

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175. "This. its really freakin ridiculous"
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he's casting a role

  

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176. "Ridiculous that Rashida's character isn't based on his wife?"
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That's the main point.

Ridiculous that ppl are saying she's based on his wife? I'd agree, since he said she's not.

Are you on topic or focusing on a side thought?

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177. "Ridiculous that you think she isn’t Black enough to be cast in that"
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Role. Kenya should have consulted you and the other ass backward folks who are still grappling with what is Black or not

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179. "I can't take her seriously giving that speech w/o a caveat or expressed"
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irony. That's really my only problem with her playing the role. I've already said that tho.
That's my view. It obviously upsets you enough to insult me, but I'll send you good vibes and hope you'll be ok. You're not being attacked.


>Kenya should have consulted you and the other ass
>backward folks who are still grappling with what is Black or
>not


I'm not grappling with anything, sir. I understand race is a social construct, and this woman has been socially white since she was a child by her own admission. Luckily, her own words made this very easy for me to understand.



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181. "How serious are we supposed to take anyone on this show? "
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its hard tot ale any criticism of the show seriously when it’s based on personal speeches and photos of sisters.





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183. "That's for you to decide."
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If the speech she gave was a joke to you, then that's your prerogative I guess. I took it as a serious moment on the show... or at least serious content in service of a funny moment.

>its hard tot ale any criticism of the show seriously when
>it’s based on personal speeches and photos of sisters.


I'm not sure which personal speeches you're talking about, but the photos of her aren't a criticism of the show. They are a response to someone saying they look alike in an attempt to diminish their own words about how they grew up. You gotta take that up with the person who brought them looking alike into this. I was focused on what they said.

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170. "This is ridiculous, even in what you quote above she was puzzled "
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By the implication that she passed, ie it was not active. She can’t help the way she looks nor should she be ashamed of it nor does it make her any less Black. Likewise for people who have dark skin and nappy hair.

Her name is Rashida Jones. That’s a pretty unambiguous Black name, she has never tried to hide it and has played Black and mixed roles (including the mixed sister of the wife on Blackish)

And just becuz someone hasn’t experienced the injustices against their race doesn’t mean they can’t feel that shit as injustice, I’ve never had a cop point a gun at me, does that mean I can’t speak on police murdering Black men and racial bias in policing???

Blacker than though discussions are best placed in the trash bin.

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173. "Let's not do that."
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I mean if we're calling one another ridiculous...
It's also ridiculous how you approached Bentagain above so disrespectfully without simply saying you disagreed for whatever reason. We can easily be respectful on here without trying to start unnecessary hostilities. We done with that now or nah?


>By the implication that she passed, ie it was not active.

I acknowledged that. My point in this is that it doesn't matter what you call it. What they're both describing is someone experiencing life as a white person... albeit an empathetic one... but still as a white person.




>She can’t help the way she looks nor should she be ashamed of it
>nor does it make her any less Black.



That goes without saying, and where have I even indicated that she should be ashamed of her looks? That's just randomness.



>Her name is Rashida Jones. That’s a pretty unambiguous Black
>name, she has never tried to hide it and has played Black and
>mixed roles (including the mixed sister of the wife on
>Blackish)



I addressed this name stuff already in the post. Frankly, it's a cheap and lazy argument. At most, kids on the playground just thought it was novel that they had a white friend named Rashida. Can't believe people are saying a name solidifies ethnicity. Think about the implications of that.



>And just becuz someone hasn’t experienced the injustices
>against their race doesn’t mean they can’t feel that shit
>as injustice, I’ve never had a cop point a gun at me, does
>that mean I can’t speak on police murdering Black men and
>racial bias in policing???



This is a logical leap and far oversimplifies my point. ANYONE can speak on it. People praise Jane Elliot and Tim Wise for speaking on it. That has never been what I've said about any of this. You can speak on the fear of being pulled over and murdered by police based on how you look. Rashida can't. This is what it means when we say race is a social construct. Socially, she's been white since she was a child. People say she black on a technicality of having a black parent. It's not how she exists in the world tho. Please understand this difference so we can see one another's viewpoints here.


>Blacker than though discussions are best placed in the trash
>bin.


This isn't a matter of "blacker" imo. It's much more nuanced than that.




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178. "Blacker than thou notions should be left in the trash bin. It’s 2020"
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This is ur focus? Call the show wack, unfunny whatever, but discussing if the actor cast to play his wife was Black enough for the role is basic as fuck. If you espouse those views you are basic as fuck. End of reply.

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180. "The one drop rule should be left in the trash bin. It's 2020"
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We should have more nuanced understandings of race at this point.

>This is ur focus? Call the show wack, unfunny whatever, but
>discussing if the actor cast to play his wife was Black enough
>for the role is basic as fuck. If you espouse those views you
>are basic as fuck. End of reply.


I said a lot of things about the show in here actually (even said I would recommend it to certain ppl), and if I wanted to call it wack or unfunny, I wouldn't need your permission to do that. You're responding to me posting quotes from Kenya that are relevant to the topic at hand, so this is just as much your focus as it is mine... especially since you chose to ignore everything else I said in here. I'll continue to discuss the show as I like to discuss things, and you will continue to chase me around, calling me names like a 5 yr old, based on one of my many views, if you wish. *shrugs*


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172. "And by the way, Kadida and Rashida Jones look very similar"
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I think from what’s quoted by the Rashida Jones detractors in here one could get the perception that Kadida is some dark brown skin afro’d up person but that’s pretty far from the case.

Do your googles folks.

Looking forward to season 2 with Rashida Jones reprising her role as the wife and mom. Great show

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174. "Here's a side-by-side"
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https://www.iloveoldschoolmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/11/quincy-jones-daughters-childhood-pic.jpg

Also remember that Kidada didn't feel accepted by their white grandparents while Rashida did. Kidada felt embarrassed when her white mother picked her up from school while Rashida didn't have this problem. Kidada never felt comfortable at school until her mom let her go to a predominantly black school.
Kidada describes a situation where her friend tried to hook her up with a guy. She said "tell him I'm tan." He gets there and says "You didn't tell me she was black." Rashida says people always said to her "But you look so white!" "You're not black!" She says that hurts. Her pain is white acceptance. Kidada's was white rejection.

But yes... they look alike. They're sisters afterall.

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182. "link is broken but nah.. they look just alike"
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Only difference is fashion accessories.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/c6/eb/7e/c6eb7e6aa090684ef1e43734231b077f.jpg

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184. "That doesn't change the drastically different existence they outlined th..."
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which was my point.

Here's another source for the pic:
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hNCqBXizeCY/VNLPDDidQiI/AAAAAAABHnQ/H4tKHtXd1BY/s640/blogger-image-919208761.jpg

So again...

Also remember that Kidada didn't feel accepted by their white grandparents while Rashida did. Kidada felt embarrassed when her white mother picked her up from school while Rashida didn't have this problem. Kidada never felt comfortable at school until her mom let her go to a predominantly black school.
Kidada describes a situation where her friend tried to hook her up with a guy. She said "tell him I'm tan." He gets there and says "You didn't tell me she was black." Rashida says people always said to her "But you look so white!" "You're not black!" She says that hurts. Her pain is white acceptance. Kidada's was white rejection.

But yes... they look alike. They're sisters afterall.


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185. "Sounds like the typical sister rivalry"
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I have 2 sisters and I’m married to a Black woman who has a sister 5 shades darker than her.. and the rivalry is real.

It’s always “they treated me different”

but usually, the sibling also plays into it by carving out their own niche”

but again, not sure what any of this has to do with Rashida playing a role on a show. She’s an actress. Off camera experience rarely has an impact on these casting decisions.

This whole show feels like the joke is overcompensating for their “lack of blackness”

Kenya isn’t even viewed as BlackAF by the rest of his family for obvious reasons.

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186. "They both confirm she was perceived as white."
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That's not sibling rivalry. That's just the reality of her life according to her sister's claim and her own admission.


>but again, not sure what any of this has to do with Rashida
>playing a role on a show. She’s an actress.


I realize that. That's also not how this got introduced into the convo on my part. Among what I said was that I thought her mannerisms looked off and that, given the name of the show, I figured a white-passing actor's presence in the main cast would be addressed in some way. It wasn't.
Mainly tho, I said *I* can't take her seriously giving that speech... as much as I couldn't take Rachel Dolezal seriously giving the same speech. **I'm not talking one-drop rules. I'm talking race as a social construct and societal positioning.** Peoples' insistence that she's black is also what makes the totally cool with the speech, correct? Would you accept it from Ronda Rousy, even if she was acting? Why or why not?
(the following is not yelling, but emphasis...)
RACE AS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT vs RACE AS BIOLOGY IS THE FUNDAMENTAL DISAGREEMENT YOU ALL ARE HAVING WITH ME.


>Off camera experience rarely has an impact on these casting
>decisions.


I realize that also... even though that's been quite the debate, especially with non-American actors being chosen for iconic Black American roles (MLK, Harriet Tubman, etc... even Sam Jack's issue with Get Out).


>This whole show feels like the joke is overcompensating for
>their “lack of blackness”
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>Kenya isn’t even viewed as BlackAF by the rest of his family
>for obvious reasons.


That's really neither here nor there, given the conversation isn't about Kenya being accepted as white his entire life based on his looks. That can only be ignored w/ regard to Rashida.


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190. "But this wasn’t due to her complexion. "
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Seems like this perception is/was based on her choice.

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192. "“But you look so white!” “You’re not black!”"
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That's definitely not based on her choice... especially when the next part is...
I want to say: “Do you know how hurtful that is to somebody who identifies so strongly with half of who she is?” … When people don’t know “what” you are, you get your heart broken daily.

Earlier she said...
Today I feel guilty, knowing that because of the way our genes tumbled out, Kidada had to go through pain I didn’t have to endure. Loving her so much, I’m sad that I’ll never share that experience with her.



She's definitely not speaking like someone who made a choice. In fact, she's explicitly saying she *didn't* have a choice.


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193. "Not sure where you grew up but I had more than a few biracial girls"
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and it’s always the same shit.

You look so “this or that” and it’s not usually based on complexion. It’s based on the way they interact with people


I’ll put it this way.. I dated more than a few because I was caught up AND I wanted to bring them all to the dark side. We know it’s a small sample side but hell, I prolly dated

Women who identified as Black or White ALWAYS carried a bag of quotes and memories that helped confirm their beliefs or reason for identifying as such


What’s odd is anytime I was able to witness conversation or experienced that didn’t align with them they didn’t see it or glossed over it.

I’m not denying they were treated different but looking at them sure by side it wasn’t due to hair color or straightened hair.


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187. "How similar they look helps our point. "
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This has nothing to do with shade of skin. Looking at how similar they look , in fact, makes Kidada and Rashida's discussion about how they grew up so differently actually supports the idea that how they choose to identify was a decision on their part.

I beg you. Read the whole article. It's the most in-depth statement from Rashida Jones on her relationship to blackness. Rashida talks about how she identified more with the white side of her family and friends and Kidada with the black side. Kidada wanted to live with her father and leave the white schools and go to black schools. Rashida wanted to live with mom and felt uncomfortable around Kidada's black friends and the black kids at her schools.

So no one is sitting in judgement of her blackness and deciding for her. She is telling us her relationship to blackness.

I've had more than one uncomfortable conversations with Bi-racial people who were offended when I tried to tell them they are black. So I wouldn't presume a bi-racial identifies as black just because they have a black parent.

As far as the casting. If the character were a character who was bi-racial who tries to go extra hard to present her blackness. Rashida Jones would make a lot of sense in casting. And it did seem like that's how the character was being presented at first. But over time the character started to present like the "militant" character Barass describes her as. That Rashida Jones does not pull off well because it's obvious on screen she isn't THAT comfortable with her blackness...just like she said about herself.

I love the idea of a Shuan King-like militant bi-racial character and I don't dislike Rashida Jones, I just think she was miscast.





>I think from what’s quoted by the Rashida Jones detractors
>in here one could get the perception that Kadida is some dark
>brown skin afro’d up person but that’s pretty far from the
>case.
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>Do your googles folks.
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>Looking forward to season 2 with Rashida Jones reprising her
>role as the wife and mom. Great show


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188. "RE: How similar they look helps our point. "
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>This has nothing to do with shade of skin. Looking at how
>similar they look , in fact, makes Kidada and Rashida's
>discussion about how they grew up so differently actually
>supports the idea that how they choose to identify was a
>decision on their part.



That's something to consider as they aged. Although I wouldn't blame Rashida for taking advantage of looking white in a racist white society.

However, I just wanna point out that, from what I'm seeing in the article, it was their different appearances as children that actually caused them to grow up so differently.

The pic I posted shows them about as natural as they can be, Rashida with naturally straight blond hair and green eyes and Kidada with brown skin, brown eyes and curly black hair. She looks like a mixed child while Rashida just looks white.

Then the article has Kidada giving the account of the boy being disappointed ("you didn't tell me she was black") and Rashida saying she gets told “But you look so white!” “You’re not black!” <- those facts, to me, outline a difference between blackness & whiteness as social constructs... as it's largely about how the world perceives you.
Police will shoot you because of how you racially appear, and this extends to how people treat you at every turn in society down to the smallest of things. Kidada was never perceived as white in school or beyond it. Rashida always was. Given their statements, no amount of pictures where they look they same can override their own statements about how people saw them, solely based on their appearances.




>I beg you. Read the whole article. It's the most in-depth
>statement from Rashida Jones on her relationship to blackness.


And as you pointed out right there, folks don't seem to want to read what Rashida and Kidada have said in their own words. I appreciate you reading it tho.



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189. "Not sure why people are saying she is miscast. "
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Seems like she fits perfectly for the show.

She ain’t blackity black and it’s obvious that’s part of the joke.

My biggest beef with Rashida is her wardrobe. She wears some really boring ass clothing in the show.. lol.

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191. "Sometimes it seems like the joke is she is trying to hard. "
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Other times it seems like she is supposed to be the militant down one and ain't pulling it off.


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194. "I see her as trying too hard"
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and also calling him out on his bullshit

and also indulging in the lifestyle he has provided.

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195. "HARD PASS"
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196. "What was the movie they bleeped out in episode 5? "
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Sorry to Bother You? Or Black Panther?

  

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198. "Harriet"
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Jk. But it's the movie that most fit the bill to me.


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199. "Didn’t white people make that?"
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>Jk. But it's the movie that most fit the bill to me.

  

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197. "Kenya and Rashida are duds this makes me appreciate Black-ish more"
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It's nice to get a few highly relatable moments every show but I don't find the show entertaining overall. The only engaging character is the know it all daughter.

  

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