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"Poll question: "....got Me Too'd" "


  

          

I got this gripe thats been growing on the subject of the Me Too movement

its the way the language around the issue has shifted in a way thats makes the aggressors the victims.

What I mean is, IF and WHEN a story breaks about a celebrity and sexual misconduct the talks around the water cooler seem to now sound something like,

"Gosh, didjahear, Russel Crowe got me-too'd?"

"Oh wow, I was just reading about how if Hugh Hefner were in his prime today he would have gotten me-too'd"

or what about Kanye's use of it in 'Yikes'?

"Russell Simmons wanna pray for me too / I'ma pray for him 'cause he got #MeToo'd"


BRUH.

You don't get Me-Too'd. You're not the victim if whats happening is light being placed on the bad and fucked up things you've done behind closed doors.


When I hear "MeToo'd" I hear people saying "these people would have gotten along fine if those damn pesky victims would have just shut the fuck up about it all"

Poll result (22 votes)
Agree (13 votes)Vote
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it has to be proven first, right?
Feb 13th 2020
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...
Feb 13th 2020
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I mean...
Feb 13th 2020
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      is this the hill you plan to die on?
Feb 13th 2020
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of course, but thats kinda not important
Feb 13th 2020
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Not any more.
Feb 13th 2020
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isn't it just akin to "got busted"?
Feb 13th 2020
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right, but there is a difference...
Feb 13th 2020
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      i assume cops and friends of cops probably do say this
Feb 13th 2020
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           so imagine if it became common language everywhere
Feb 13th 2020
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                i get the line of thinking but don't see it as most people's perception
Feb 13th 2020
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                     I agree with you but I also think, language shapes perception
Feb 13th 2020
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just means they got busted for some old dirt
Feb 13th 2020
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The voice of the verb is kind of inconsequential
Feb 13th 2020
11
i thought it just meant they got caught / found out ?
Feb 13th 2020
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it does. nobody is saying it like "those women got him"
Feb 13th 2020
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      please explain the Kanye lyric then.
Feb 13th 2020
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           what needs explaining about it.
Feb 13th 2020
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                Yeah we're just not gonna agree on that one
Feb 13th 2020
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                     yeah i dont get that read at all from the line.
Feb 13th 2020
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                          I can see it when Ye starts off
Feb 13th 2020
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My wife's mentor got Me Too'd
Feb 13th 2020
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it's probably so common that they've made it okay
Feb 13th 2020
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100% agree
Feb 13th 2020
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Trinity444
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1. "it has to be proven first, right?"
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they may say it because everyone that cries victim isn’t always a victim.

  

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2. "..."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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soulpsychodelicyde
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8. "I mean... "
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16. "is this the hill you plan to die on? "
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Thu Feb-13-20 02:25 PM by Trinity444

  

          

not sure what your beef is with me, sis
chill tho...

  

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5. "of course, but thats kinda not important"
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because people use the phrase "MeToo'd" before any proving happens.

can we just go back 5 years and return to using "allegations"?

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IsaIsaIsa
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10. "Not any more. "
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www.Tupreme.com

  

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3. "isn't it just akin to "got busted"?"
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i know what you're saying but i think you're overthinking it.

if someone says J got busted for robbing houses, no one is mistaking J for the victim... unless there's some idea that he was falsely charged. same thing would apply to being metoo'd

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6. "right, but there is a difference..."
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>i know what you're saying but i think you're overthinking
>it.
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>if someone says J got busted for robbing houses, no one is
>mistaking J for the victim... unless there's some idea that he
>was falsely charged. same thing would apply to being metoo'd


while I agree with the idea that its being used as "caught" or "busted" "#Me Too" has a specific context that is tied to victims of sexual assault/harassment.

It's be like if people started saying "Oh yeah, officer Johnson was Black Lives Matter'd for being accused of shooting that kid last month...thank god there were no cameras"

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7. "i assume cops and friends of cops probably do say this "
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>It's be like if people started saying "Oh yeah, officer
>Johnson was Black Lives Matter'd for being accused of shooting
>that kid last month...thank god there were no cameras"
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9. "so imagine if it became common language everywhere"
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this is where my head is at with me too

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13. "i get the line of thinking but don't see it as most people's perception"
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i can only speak on what i've seen personally, but usually when i hear the mention that someone new got metoo'd, the immediate response is usually to ask what they did.

i get how it gets more murky if we're talking hypothetically about someone like Hef.

the only time i really hear it in the context of the accused being seen as the potential victim is with someone like Aziz.

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14. "I agree with you but I also think, language shapes perception"
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i.e., this: https://youtu.be/DiK5z3pbXgI?t=27

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4. "just means they got busted for some old dirt "
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it ain’t that deep.



shut up already, damn

  

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11. "The voice of the verb is kind of inconsequential"
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speaks more to a social media hashtag being adopted or appropriated by pundits and whatever Kanye is

If #metoo is the actor and those that get called out by the hashtag or movement behind it are victims, I guess that's what it's meant for?

  

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12. "i thought it just meant they got caught / found out ?"
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15. "it does. nobody is saying it like "those women got him" "
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like the guy is a victim, unless they're gassing up the circumstances.

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17. "please explain the Kanye lyric then."
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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18. "what needs explaining about it."
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he got metoo'd. he got caught. its just a clever way to say breh was so worried about me when he needed to be worried about himself.

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19. "Yeah we're just not gonna agree on that one"
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I'm gonna pray for him because he got me too'd is absolutely portraying him as a victim.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

"There is only one god and his name is death. And there is only one thing we say to death: not today."

  

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20. "yeah i dont get that read at all from the line."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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22. "I can see it when Ye starts off "
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by saying he's gonna pray for him. like Russell fell victim to it even tho he caused it. allegedly.

otherwise, I don't normally take it as being victimized. more so just bruh got caught up.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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21. "My wife's mentor got Me Too'd"
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pretty public position but he was listed among a bunch of other people for a public company that employees complained had a sexist environment. His infraction was that he dated multiple subordinates. married one. Had a child with another. He stepped down. Some of the more prominent others who were accused did not.

Anyway, my wife complains is that she was in a company summit and it was super white and the most highest ranking black person from before wasn't there anymore because he got "me too'd"

I don't mind beating a dead horse, some times white feminism doesn't serve black interest.


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23. "it's probably so common that they've made it okay"
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to play the victim.

  

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24. "100% agree"
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the whole point of "me too" was for women to come forward and say "this happened to me too". for the offenders to basically use the phrase in the form of a trap is disrespectful. i've heard dudes say they don't even want to be around women because they don't want to get "metoo'd". like really dude? you're acting like women are sitting around plotting how to force you to harass them? that's so twisted and backwards. shows how much of a problem it is in the first place.

  

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