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las raises
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"Eminem just dropped a new album"


  

          

He has Black Thought on one of the tracks and of course BT kills it, Q Tip is on the hook and Royce on the track too

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i thought this was a joke
Jan 17th 2020
1
Backlash because of a line...
Jan 17th 2020
2
Time to get paid, blow up like the world trade
Jan 17th 2020
8
      True... but we live in different times now.
Jan 17th 2020
9
      Album literally starts with audio of him killing a woman
Jan 17th 2020
19
      That line was a throwaway line then and basically trash
Jan 19th 2020
32
I'm 3 songs in...FIRE! This is circa early 2000s Em. He's fucking BACK!
Jan 17th 2020
3
I'm in the Lord Jamar line....
Jan 17th 2020
4
verbatim
Jan 17th 2020
16
Bushwick Bill -
Jan 17th 2020
5
this is good
Jan 17th 2020
6
RE: this is good
Jan 17th 2020
7
What's with Tip doing nothing but hooks nowdays
Jan 17th 2020
10
it's not bad, but it's not great by any means either.
Jan 17th 2020
11
More highs than lows. But enough lows. Step Dad???
Jan 17th 2020
12
"Stepdad" would be much better with a different hook.
Jan 17th 2020
21
      yep
Jan 20th 2020
41
pretty forgettable
Jan 17th 2020
13
RE: pretty forgettable
Jan 18th 2020
29
Your standouts are the tracks Royce produced
Jan 19th 2020
33
i didnt realize that until later lol
Jan 20th 2020
39
Very forgettable. I'm one and done on it
Jan 20th 2020
36
Havent listened yet but lol @ the album cover and name
Jan 17th 2020
14
Pass on Eminem
Jan 17th 2020
15
Lmao.. listen to You Gon Learn
Jan 17th 2020
18
      Yeah that was good
Jan 20th 2020
38
lol @ get your ass beat at the basketball court...
Jan 17th 2020
17
lol..yall care?
Jan 17th 2020
LOL!!!
Jan 17th 2020
22
      Nigga cared enough to post..
Jan 17th 2020
23
           twice
Jan 17th 2020
24
           Doubled downer ass
Jan 17th 2020
26
           yeah that means soooo much
Jan 17th 2020
25
                Happy Fryday nigga!!!
Jan 17th 2020
27
lol..yall care?
Jan 17th 2020
20
I'm hoping he makes a non angry album
Jan 17th 2020
28
right? for me not even content, but it's often overlooked how playful he...
Jan 22nd 2020
53
      Well said. Turns out Dre is in the production credits a lot on this albu...
Jan 22nd 2020
55
Yah Yah is a dope track and the 2nd half of Godzilla is fucking bananas
Jan 18th 2020
30
questions:
Jan 18th 2020
31
you're asking the wrong questions
Jan 19th 2020
35
Dude shouted out 3xDope...this joint is classic off the strength of that...
Jan 19th 2020
34
Em is an old ass bitter back packer
Jan 20th 2020
37
      He spits on most of them but he's incapable of making ...
Jan 20th 2020
40
           The beats are straight, and work well for the gymnastics IMO
Jan 20th 2020
42
           RE: The beats are straight, and work well for the gymnastics IMO
Jan 21st 2020
44
                Seems like rap bores you a lot.
Jan 21st 2020
46
                     Haha who else have I said that about ?
Jan 21st 2020
47
           Honestly.. it’s rare of a lyrical miracle dude to make good songs
Jan 21st 2020
43
                Yea agreed but he used to make good songs that's why it's glaring.
Jan 21st 2020
45
                     its like he makes music only to impress other
Jan 21st 2020
48
                     Yea absolutely - and he's still technically mind-blowing on the mic.
Jan 21st 2020
49
                          yup.and shows little, if any growth outside of that.
Jan 21st 2020
50
                               Yea same here.
Jan 21st 2020
51
                     RE: Yea agreed but he used to make good songs that's why it's glaring.
Jan 22nd 2020
54
                          Yea I mean I guess that is exactly what it is right ?
Jan 22nd 2020
56
                               ever since he started producing his own shit
Jan 22nd 2020
58
                                    Well, I think Eminem Show was dope.
Jan 22nd 2020
59
                                         eminem show is when i got over eminem
Jan 22nd 2020
60
                                         drugs played a role as well as having
Jan 22nd 2020
62
Basura
Jan 21st 2020
52
Fuck it - I enjoyed it
Jan 22nd 2020
57
The hate is strong in here... typical
Jan 22nd 2020
61
Just discovered the original demo version of "Lose Yourself"
Jan 22nd 2020
63
totally dude also produced this
Jan 22nd 2020
64

justin_scott
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1. "i thought this was a joke"
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good for BT to get some more shine. gotta hear this later tonight.

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cal.25
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2. "Backlash because of a line..."
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In the song 'Unaccommodating'

"I'm contemplating yelling 'bombs away' on the game / Like I'm outside of an Ariana Grande concert waiting."

Controversial Em lyrics are nothing new, but this isn't a good at all

  

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falafel stand pimpin
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8. "Time to get paid, blow up like the world trade"
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One of the most revered lines in history

  

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legsdiamond
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9. "True... but we live in different times now. "
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The fact that someone would even suggest outrage for this line is proof.

and I hate it this outrage culture.

shut up already, damn

  

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legsdiamond
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19. "Album literally starts with audio of him killing a woman"
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add the album cover and I don’t think anyone can listen to this and get offended.

It’s like going to a horror movie and getting upset because their is horror.

shut up already, damn

  

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32. "That line was a throwaway line then and basically trash"
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I don’t remember anyone giving that line props back in the day.

Peace,

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3. "I'm 3 songs in...FIRE! This is circa early 2000s Em. He's fucking BACK!"
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4. "I'm in the Lord Jamar line...."
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Never checked for the dude.
Never heard a full album etc..

Not on some above it all shit
his stuff just never remotely resonated with me.

AT ALL.

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16. "verbatim"
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5. "Bushwick Bill -"
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I ball out like Bushwick Bill....

LOL - maaaan



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6. "this is good"
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about halfway through, he' spittin. the end of Godzilla is crazy.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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7. "RE: this is good"
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>about halfway through, he' spittin. the end of Godzilla is
>crazy.


dude!

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10. "What's with Tip doing nothing but hooks nowdays "
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Also these beats are horrid.

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11. "it's not bad, but it's not great by any means either."
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it's middle of the road.

listenable (most songs, a couple real duds tho) but not worth re-listening much.

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12. "More highs than lows. But enough lows. Step Dad???"
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21. ""Stepdad" would be much better with a different hook."
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Fri Jan-17-20 03:40 PM by squeeg

  

          

Actually, that goes for a lot of this album.

  

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41. "yep"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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13. "pretty forgettable"
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not the worst thing hes done but he really needs to stop trying to sing hooks. could use better beats.

you gon learn and darkness are the only tracks i might come back to.

  

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29. "RE: pretty forgettable"
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>not the worst thing hes done but he really needs to stop
>trying to sing hooks. could use better beats.
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>you gon lrn and darkness are the only tracks i might come
>back to.


This is the story with ALL of his albums

  

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33. "Your standouts are the tracks Royce produced"
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Peace,

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39. "i didnt realize that until later lol"
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i could tell you gon learn sounded like a royce track, pretty surprised about darkness.

im going to listen to everything (decent and up) from january again once the month is done. well see if i like anything else.

  

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36. "Very forgettable. I'm one and done on it"
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14. "Havent listened yet but lol @ the album cover and name"
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Pure Eminem

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15. "Pass on Eminem "
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based on the replies in this post.

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18. "Lmao.. listen to You Gon Learn "
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Flames

I know that sample... it’s an acid trip hop song and I can’t remember it.


shut up already, damn

  

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38. "Yeah that was good"
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I like Yah Yah with BT and the Young MA cut.

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17. "lol @ get your ass beat at the basketball court..."
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"lol..yall care?"


  

          

  

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22. "LOL!!!"
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Fri Jan-17-20 03:54 PM by makaveli

  

          

not really, but it's not that bad.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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23. "Nigga cared enough to post.. "
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I cared enough to listen and find out for myself.

Shits pretty easy to do with Spotify.

shut up already, damn

  

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24. "twice"
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26. "Doubled downer ass"
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shut up already, damn

  

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25. "yeah that means soooo much"
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>I cared enough to listen and find out for myself.
>
>Shits pretty easy to do with Spotify.
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27. "Happy Fryday nigga!!! "
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shut up already, damn

  

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20. "lol..yall care?"
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28. "I'm hoping he makes a non angry album"
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Looking forward to dude making an album when he's happy.

This album has a song with Black Thought and Q-Tip on it.

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53. "right? for me not even content, but it's often overlooked how playful he..."
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That's hard to hold onto with age, but I really think he could have a lot of fun if he just dialed the performative anger back 30%. I stumbled over this bit I wrote about him after MMLP2 and it really resonated with me:

"For the rest of the LP, in attempting to return to the dark, sarcastic tone of Marshall Mathers LP, Eminem approaches it through the humorless affect of a 12-step addict who always found being an asshole the perfect escape from his own insecurities. In doing so, Eminem reveals once and for all that his success owes as much to timeliness as talent."

Eminem without the Bass Brothers and Dre just feels like self-parody too often.


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55. "Well said. Turns out Dre is in the production credits a lot on this albu..."
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And Em is handling a lot of his own production.


>That's hard to hold onto with age, but I really think he
>could have a lot of fun if he just dialed the performative
>anger back 30%. I stumbled over this bit I wrote about him
>after MMLP2 and it really resonated with me:
>
>"For the rest of the LP, in attempting to return to the dark,
>sarcastic tone of Marshall Mathers LP, Eminem approaches it
>through the humorless affect of a 12-step addict who always
>found being an asshole the perfect escape from his own
>insecurities. In doing so, Eminem reveals once and for all
>that his success owes as much to timeliness as talent."
>
>Eminem without the Bass Brothers and Dre just feels like
>self-parody too often.

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30. "Yah Yah is a dope track and the 2nd half of Godzilla is fucking bananas"
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alot of them were typical forgettable Em tracks that I skimmed through.
Was worth checking just for the highlights though

Dude's like a .200 batter who occasionally hits home runs into the next county

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31. "questions:"
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1. Who are the producers?
2. How many Eminem beats?
3. How many Skyler Grey hooks? Or hooks in that lane?
4. How many songs does he scream rap on?
5. Is he riding the beats?
6. How many “motivational” songs does he scream rap on while saying all kinds of foul and weird shit, with a hook sung by Em?

If I don’t like the answers to these questions, I’m not listening. Thanks for your time.

  

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35. "you're asking the wrong questions"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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34. "Dude shouted out 3xDope...this joint is classic off the strength of that..."
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not really...
but still...
yeah...
he got it in on this album...

  

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37. "Em is an old ass bitter back packer"
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and no, shit ain’t classic but he spits on a few of these.

shut up already, damn

  

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40. "He spits on most of them but he's incapable of making ..."
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.. interesting music anymore. It's all bland, somber production, with Em playing verbal gymnastics and rapping really fast and/or angry. Technically it's wildly impressive, what he's able to do with his pen. But it's exhausting and boring musically.

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42. "The beats are straight, and work well for the gymnastics IMO"
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The problem I see is that this isn't *purely* a "for the spitters" album, as he makes a few plays for bigger, arena-styled songs. So... Stepdad has a dope ass beat and he raps his ass off, until Angry PeeWee screams the chorus. So that's a mixed bag.

But this shit is a rap clinic, and definitely not for everyone. I don't think he has the overall ear of a Jay or 50, or the project window sentiment of Nas.

But this is some pure spitter shit, by and large, even with the attempts to do something greater.

  

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44. "RE: The beats are straight, and work well for the gymnastics IMO"
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>The problem I see is that this isn't *purely* a "for the
>spitters" album, as he makes a few plays for bigger,
>arena-styled songs. So... Stepdad has a dope ass beat and he
>raps his ass off, until Angry PeeWee screams the chorus. So
>that's a mixed bag.

Yea he always kinda does that tho doesn't he ?

Anyway to your point about the beats working for what he's doing - that's kind of exactly my point. Sure, these beats give room for Em to spit but the beats are still boring IMO for the most part. Like in his heyday, even on his "diss songs" and/or straight spitting songs, the beats were strong and interesting, while still giving him room to flex. I'm thinking of "The Sauce" and that type of song.


>But this shit is a rap clinic, and definitely not for
>everyone. I don't think he has the overall ear of a Jay or 50,
>or the project window sentiment of Nas.

Yea again that's fine. I just wish the beats had more variety.


>But this is some pure spitter shit, by and large, even with
>the attempts to do something greater.

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46. "Seems like rap bores you a lot. "
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You always speak on being bored by beats or rhymes.. lol

shut up already, damn

  

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47. "Haha who else have I said that about ?"
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I mean I don't doubt that I've said it before, just don't recall off memory.

I assume it was about more modern hip-hop but maybe I'm wrong haha.

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43. "Honestly.. it’s rare of a lyrical miracle dude to make good songs"
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even someone like Thought has a hard time making good songs by himself.

It’s truly an art form to spit and edit it down to where you get a dope 16 and a good hook.

I think this is what makes guys like Kendrick special.

I don’t listen to Em for replay value.. I listen for dope lines and dexterity and I guess I’ve gotten better with approaching rappers like him without holding them to the same standard as a Jay.

It’s not something I will have in rotation.

shut up already, damn

  

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45. "Yea agreed but he used to make good songs that's why it's glaring."
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>I don’t listen to Em for replay value.. I listen for dope
>lines and dexterity and I guess I’ve gotten better with
>approaching rappers like him without holding them to the same
>standard as a Jay.

Like I know Em has always been polarizing for everyone for various reasons but IMO in the first part of his career, he was obviously a glorified battle rapper, but he was still able to make interesting and good songs even if he was still clearly just rappity rapping for the most part. The production was a huge part of that but he also flowed with said beats way better at that time.

His last few albums the beats have been mostly somber and boring and he's just Bone Thugz' rapping over them a good chunk of the time.

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48. "its like he makes music only to impress other "
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rappity rap rappers. not that he owes anyone anything, but if the songs are built just for him to do that type of music, its a lot less interesting.

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49. "Yea absolutely - and he's still technically mind-blowing on the mic."
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But it's just not interesting music. And it's exhausting to listen to. Like a chore.

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50. "yup.and shows little, if any growth outside of that."
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even Ras Kass tries making songs on that Apollo Brown joint.

I like bars, but I just don't have the patience or time no more. I haven't even finished the album yet lol.

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51. "Yea same here."
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>even Ras Kass tries making songs on that Apollo Brown joint.
>
>I like bars, but I just don't have the patience or time no
>more. I haven't even finished the album yet lol.

At least not over the course of a whole album. Some songs demand a little patience lyrically, a little flow. I don't love the theme of the song, but "Darkness" is a great, rare example of him flowing with the beat and spirit of the song.

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54. "RE: Yea agreed but he used to make good songs that's why it's glaring."
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>>I don’t listen to Em for replay value.. I listen for dope
>>lines and dexterity and I guess I’ve gotten better with
>>approaching rappers like him without holding them to the
>same
>>standard as a Jay.
>
>Like I know Em has always been polarizing for everyone for
>various reasons but IMO in the first part of his career, he
>was obviously a glorified battle rapper, but he was still able
>to make interesting and good songs even if he was still
>clearly just rappity rapping for the most part. The production
>was a huge part of that but he also flowed with said beats way
>better at that time.
>
>His last few albums the beats have been mostly somber and
>boring and he's just Bone Thugz' rapping over them a good
>chunk of the time.


You mean when Dre and his team were full on producing his stuff?

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56. "Yea I mean I guess that is exactly what it is right ?"
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That when Dre and the Bass Bros were fully engaged they wouldn't really allow him to devolve into this type of sound and highlighted his playfulness.

Hate to say it but I also think drugs had a lot to do with his more upbeat and playful attitude in that early part of his career.


>You mean when Dre and his team were full on producing his
>stuff?

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58. "ever since he started producing his own shit"
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with no producers to reel him in it has just been one long unlistenable ride.
Not that his first albums are classic in my book, but at least that's somewhat debatable.

Yeah I sometimes think Wu should start smokin on dustblunts again too.
It's a selfish thought and obviously i prefer them and Em to stay healthy in mind body and spirit but it does take away from the art unfortunately.

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59. "Well, I think Eminem Show was dope."
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>with no producers to reel him in it has just been one long
>unlistenable ride.
>Not that his first albums are classic in my book, but at least
>that's somewhat debatable.

... and Em produced the bulk of that himself. So what you're saying is true besides that one exception. In other words we obviously know he's *capable* of producing interesting music. He just stopped doing it for whatever reason.


>Yeah I sometimes think Wu should start smokin on dustblunts
>again too.
>It's a selfish thought and obviously i prefer them and Em to
>stay healthy in mind body and spirit but it does take away
>from the art unfortunately.

Exactly.

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60. "eminem show is when i got over eminem"
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not because it wasnt quality i was just in backpacker mode so anything popular was basura to me lol i would say it is the last album he made that i mostly enjoyed.

im pretty sure ive listened to all of his albums at least once. i have a lot of his tracks thumbed up after the eminem show and when they come on i do not enjoy them. basically ive tried to give his newer stuff a chance but i just dont enjoy most of it.

  

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62. "drugs played a role as well as having"
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dre and whomever keep him focused. but I think youth and experience also play a role. being young can make you think the world is fine, especially when you're on top of it.

everything before was mainly delivered as jokes, tone wise. now he'll talk about gun control and other political topics. those aren't fun topics.

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52. "Basura "
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57. "Fuck it - I enjoyed it"
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Likely won't get much replay, but ya gots to appreciate his skill and it's always fun to listen to it on display...

so much hate on here... at this point, we all know better... so just enjoy his wordplay and on to the next one....

That said, his first album Infinite is still by far my favorite, so shows were I am at as far as his jarring content is concerned.




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61. "The hate is strong in here... typical "
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shut up already, damn

  

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63. "Just discovered the original demo version of "Lose Yourself""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpnmusENHRI

It's a completely different song, lyrically. Refreshing to hear new Eminem from a time period where he was at his best, in my opinion.

Per his annotation Genius:

When we were making 8 Mile, I was revisiting this old CD from two years before, going through old loops. I found the “Lose Yourself” demo on this session where me and Jeff Bass were just making beats. Jeff was just sitting on those guitar chords, and then it went into something different. I was just like “Yo, that section, right there, I gotta make a beat out of that.” I recorded the demo version of it the same day I made the beat. I didn’t like the rhyme, and put it off to the side.

But it’s one of those beats I never gave up on. That beat was definitely a highlight of my producing. I ended up doing the new version on the set of the movie, just writing between takes.

8 Mile wasn’t coming out for another year and a half, and Curtis really wanted music for the movie. He wanted it to be created from the environment, so he was pushing me to make stuff. I think “Lose Yourself” was the only thing I worked on specifically for the movie.

We filmed half of it in the dead of winter. We had a music trailer on set, designed like a studio. One trailer was music, and we had another with gym equipment in it.

We were on lunch break, and I needed to finish the track. I don’t think it was one take all the way down, but it was one take each verse. “Got the first verse, okay, punch me in at the second. OK, the whole third verse.” For some reason, I just captured something there that I didn’t want to change. I remember trying to change it and go back and re-do the vocals, and I was like “Yo, let me listen to the old ones? Just keep the old ones, fuck it.”

  

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64. "totally dude also produced this"
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this was actually a great record.

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