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rdhull
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"Poll question: Biggie made 2 albums and is in the Rock N Roll Hall of Fame lol."


  

          

Poll result (20 votes)
and? (9 votes)Vote
Lauryn can be in too then (5 votes)Vote
If Pac is in, he should be (3 votes)Vote
man, f the rnrhof..its all (party) n bullshit anyways (3 votes)Vote

  

  

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initially I thought the same, but
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RE: initially I thought the same, but
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i voted yellow
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Biggie was so large I was shocked he only had 2 album credits
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My cousins 6 year old was wearing a Biggie shirt.
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i always hated this argument
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RE: i always hated this argument
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      i voted blue
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Red. And Blue is dumb. Lauryn didn't die at the age of 24.
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I’m imagining if Biggie did an unplugged album
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LOL yup
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so she should be held back for....NOT dying?
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      Perhaps she should try making 2 great albums?
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      She did....The Score counts
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      No. She had 20 years to make more albums
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      This right here
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      For what?
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           Impact just like Biggie
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                Lauryn didn't have the impact Biggie did.
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                     Buffonery will always sale but that doesn't mean it's good
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                          k
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                               lol
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                                    ....and here you are, replying more.
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                                         Tell me more about the 6 year old wearing a shirt with Biggie
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                                              It's insane how you keep deflecting the point.
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                                                   My 2 and half year old cousin likes Blippie
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                                                        ....still doing it!
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                                                             Fred and Barney from 88
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                                                                  Serious ?: at what point did you realize you have no argument?
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                                                                       Macho man Randy Savage can not be denied
Jan 15th 2020
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                                                                            ....do you think this is going well for you?
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34
                                                                                 Steve Martin and Jim Belushi white guy rap
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                                                                                      Your jokes are not good.
Jan 15th 2020
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                                                                                      No joke Tairrie B was signed to Eazy E's label
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                                                                                      Lotta effort to not say anything.
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                                                                                      Once again no joke
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                                                                                      You're literally saying nothing.
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                                                                                      Your words 6 year old wearing a shirt
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                                                                                      again - *I* dont have to make the argument
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                                                                                      If your words mean fuck all why offer any words or make the case
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                                                                                      Here's your attention.
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                                                                                      It's not about attention
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      I'm one of the few people who LOVED her Unplugged album.
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what about an artist that had one great album
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Man Nas isnt getting in
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Dunno why this is putting my reply here. Oh well.
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I didn’t make an “argument”.
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RRHF indcuts rap occasionally - the last few have been popular
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LL Cool J still isn’t in? That’s some bullshit
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is NWA based on just the group work?
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      Clapton is In there three times
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           thats cool. ive never really bothered to look into specifics of this.
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Madd Rapper gotta be heated.
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lol
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cultural impact
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tariqhu
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1. "initially I thought the same, but "
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number of albums doesn't really mean much. he was impactful as hell with that short career.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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3. "RE: initially I thought the same, but "
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>number of albums doesn't really mean much. he was impactful
>as hell with that short career.

like with The Sex Pistols






pistols

  

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mista k5
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2. "i voted yellow"
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but as a teen this did bother me. how he gonna be the goat and only released one album??????

but nah that first album was enough, the second was just icing. dude was just fly.

could be worse choices to include.

  

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4. "Biggie was so large I was shocked he only had 2 album credits"
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Seemed like he was on the scene for a long ass time because he was so huge.

He got us with the Party and Bullshit fight on stage at Jones Beach. We ran... then we were like ohhh shiiittttt!!!

Loved that song. Remix better tho.

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Ryan M
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5. "My cousins 6 year old was wearing a Biggie shirt."
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Biggie died fucking 23 years ago.

Yeah, he's had an impact and should be in - no question.

Nobody's checking for Miseducation in 2020 but people still play Ready to Die *kanye shrug*

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6. "i always hated this argument"
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great art is great art. if you look at writers, then some make it into the canon with only publishing one or two great works. other writers write multiple works, but only two or three of those remain culturally relevant. in terms of outcomes, it's pretty much the same in terms of the one or two works that remain celebrated regardless of intial output

  

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rdhull
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7. "RE: i always hated this argument"
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>great art is great art. if you look at writers, then some
>make it into the canon with only publishing one or two great
>works. other writers write multiple works, but only two or
>three of those remain culturally relevant. in terms of
>outcomes, it's pretty much the same in terms of the one or two
>works that remain celebrated regardless of intial output

thats the "and?" red choice

  

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12. "i voted blue"
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8. "Red. And Blue is dumb. Lauryn didn't die at the age of 24. "
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9. "I’m imagining if Biggie did an unplugged album"
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then showed up late for shows for the next 20 years...

How would we view him?

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11. "LOL yup"
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>then showed up late for shows for the next 20 years...
>
>How would we view him?
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13. "so she should be held back for....NOT dying?"
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If Big's work gets him in, so does Lauryn's.

I know the cool guy thing to do is shit on her or whatever, but the logic is...weird.


  

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Ryan M
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14. "Perhaps she should try making 2 great albums? "
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46. "She did....The Score counts "
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15. "No. She had 20 years to make more albums"
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and instead she decided to spend her days showing up late to shows.

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16. "This right here"
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>If Big's work gets him in, so does Lauryn's.
>
>I know the cool guy thing to do is shit on her or whatever,
>but the logic is...weird.
>
>
>

^^^^^^^^^ yep

Plus they leaving out Biggie's second album was a double album and that was not great.

Lauryn should get in.

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Ryan M
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17. "For what? "
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I'm not shitting on Lauryn. I like her enough, and her work with the Fugees/solo is great. But LASTING RnR HOF status? Nah.

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20. "Impact just like Biggie"
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Wed Jan-15-20 07:05 PM by Lurkmode

  

          

>I'm not shitting on Lauryn. I like her enough, and her work
>with the Fugees/solo is great. But LASTING RnR HOF status?
>Nah.

You shitting on her when you dismiss what she accomplished.

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Ryan M
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21. "Lauryn didn't have the impact Biggie did. "
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Period.

There's no discussion here, but I'd welcome an argument.

There ISNT one, but go for it *shrug*

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22. "Buffonery will always sale but that doesn't mean it's good"
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>Period.
>
>There's no discussion here, but I'd welcome an argument.
>
>There ISNT one, but go for it *shrug*

You are not Black so you don't understand the damage caused by spreading Ready to Die, but feel free to make the case over the Miseducation message

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Ryan M
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23. "k"
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>>Period.
>>
>>There's no discussion here, but I'd welcome an argument.
>>
>>There ISNT one, but go for it *shrug*
>
>You are not Black so you don't understand the damage caused by
>spreading Ready to Die, but feel free to make the case over
>the Miseducation message

I don't need to make the case for a dude who just made the hall of fame.

You DO for a person who didn't.

Thanks for trying to put it back on me though!

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25. "lol"
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>>>Period.
>>>
>>>There's no discussion here, but I'd welcome an argument.
>>>
>>>There ISNT one, but go for it *shrug*
>>
>>You are not Black so you don't understand the damage caused
>by
>>spreading Ready to Die, but feel free to make the case over
>>the Miseducation message
>
>I don't need to make the case for a dude who just made the
>hall of fame.
>
>You DO for a person who didn't.
>
>Thanks for trying to put it back on me though!
>

Like I said Too Black Too Strong

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26. "....and here you are, replying more."
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Thanks for your input on this topic. Your opinion is very valuable.

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27. "Tell me more about the 6 year old wearing a shirt with Biggie "
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on it. Does he/she know the lyrics to warning ?

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28. "It's insane how you keep deflecting the point."
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Like, truly.

You COULD have made a case for Lauryn Hill, who has made one good album that was not as good as you remember it being, by now....but you haven't, and yet are still replying to me.

But sure, *I'M* the one who doesn't get it.

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29. "My 2 and half year old cousin likes Blippie"
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They should put Blippi in the RRHOF

Blippi's impact.

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30. "....still doing it!"
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All that typing and not one argument for Lauryn Hill to be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

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31. "Fred and Barney from 88"
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How long have they been around ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oX_dgcSsu1Q

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32. "Serious ?: at what point did you realize you have no argument?"
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33. "Macho man Randy Savage can not be denied "
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his place in RRHOF given his impact

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34. "....do you think this is going well for you? "
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35. "Steve Martin and Jim Belushi white guy rap"
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goes way back. Impact!! RRHOF

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36. "Your jokes are not good. "
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38. "No joke Tairrie B was signed to Eazy E's label"
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some 6 year old kid has a shirt which equals impact. RRHOF

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39. "Lotta effort to not say anything. "
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Like I said, your jokes aren't even funny.

I'm killing time at work. You? You're...failing to do anything of note.

"LULZ LEMME TYPE IMPACT AGAIN"

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40. "Once again no joke"
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John Goodman did a rap some 6 year old has a shirt equals impact automatic RRHOF

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41. "You're literally saying nothing."
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42. "Your words 6 year old wearing a shirt"
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Icy Blu is getting robbed if 6 year old has her shirt on.

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43. "again - *I* dont have to make the argument"
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You do.

Biggie's in.

Make the case for Lauryn.

You clearly CANT otherwise you WOULD. You latch onto ONE thing I said and repeat it, which is insane. If you could make an argument for her, you would. If you need me to type up an essay on Biggie, I could. I'm not GOING to, because he's in. And he's....VERY clearly a bigger deal in every sense than Lauryn Hill.

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44. "If your words mean fuck all why offer any words or make the case"
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>"My cousins 6 year old was wearing a Biggie shirt."

Biggie's in your words mean fuck all.


>Biggie died fucking 23 years ago.

Biggie's in your words mean fuck all

>Yeah, he's had an impact and should be in - no question.

Biggie's in your words mean fuck all

>Nobody's checking for Miseducation in 2020 but people still play >Ready to Die *kanye shrug*

What is this ? A reason why Biggie is in and L Boogie is not when, Biggie is in so that means fuck all ?





>You do.
>
>Biggie's in.
>
>Make the case for Lauryn.
>
>You clearly CANT otherwise you WOULD. You latch onto ONE thing
>I said and repeat it, which is insane. If you could make an
>argument for her, you would. If you need me to type up an
>essay on Biggie, I could. I'm not GOING to, because he's in.
>And he's....VERY clearly a bigger deal in every sense than
>Lauryn Hill.

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45. "Here's your attention. "
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48. "It's not about attention"
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you made a stupid argument and being bored at work is not an excuse.

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53. "I'm one of the few people who LOVED her Unplugged album."
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I had it on heavy rotation on and off for about 3 or 4 years after it came out.

I thought she was one of the best MCs in Hip-Hop, period, in the wake of The Score.

But her fall-off at a point that should have been her prime has to be factored in, and she loses points in totality because of it.

  

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mista k5
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10. "what about an artist that had one great album"
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and 10 trash ones?

  

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19. "Man Nas isnt getting in"
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49. "Dunno why this is putting my reply here. Oh well. "
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I said one small thing. I don’t need to make an argument for a dude who made the Hall. Not sure if you know this, but I didn’t get to vote.

You HAVENT made an argument. You’ve said a lot of weird things though.

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50. "I didn’t make an “argument”. "
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I said one small thing. I don’t need to make an argument for a dude who made the Hall. Not sure if you know this, but I didn’t get to vote.

You HAVENT made an argument. You’ve said a lot of weird things though.

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18. "RRHF indcuts rap occasionally - the last few have been popular"
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2020: Biggie
2017: Tupac

I'm saying those 2 are because of popularity and personality more than the music on the albums.

2016:N.W.A.

I count NWA as 1 "proper" album only - but I couldn't argue with it.


2013: Public Enenmy

This one seems to fit the model of having several influential albums

2012: Beastie Boys

Again, several influential albums and impact on popular culture.

2009: Run DMC
No way to argue this one.


2007: Granmaster Flash and The Furios Five
These guys didn't break out commercial as much as those that followed, but this is honoring people at the start.

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47. "LL Cool J still isn’t in? That’s some bullshit"
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52. "is NWA based on just the group work?"
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meaning is it possible cube or dre would get inducted on their solo work or are they already in?

  

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54. "Clapton is In there three times"
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For Derek and the dominos, Cream and his solo work. So yeah, dream and cube eventually getting in is very possible.

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55. "thats cool. ive never really bothered to look into specifics of this."
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thanks.

  

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24. "Madd Rapper gotta be heated."
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37. "lol"
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51. "cultural impact"
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ya'll should be smarter than this

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