2. "listened to it this morning." In response to Reply # 0
resonated so much with me.
the key to happiness is not being rich; it's doing something arduous and creating something of value and then being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor
4. "I've heard him talk about this before, just not as in depth." In response to Reply # 3
And it always made sense to me, even if I can't *personally* understand it. But I think the portions that most resonated with me were when he was saying that the fact that he has such a history with his art, and therefore high expectations (both from himself and from the fans/critics) makes it hard to figure out how to move forward making *new* art because of the pressure.
I can sorta grasp that and understand it. Even if, as a fan, it's still frustrating not to have new music from such a transcendent and important talent.
he's definitely mentioned things about the pressure before. that bar is high. it would be really hard to have 'success' relative to what he's done before.
sux for us, but sux even more for him to battle the mental aspects and not feel like he can do much. I hope this convo helps him see that is ok for him to at least make the music rather than thinking about it so much.
>he's definitely mentioned things about the pressure before. >that bar is high. it would be really hard to have 'success' >relative to what he's done before. > >sux for us, but sux even more for him to battle the mental >aspects and not feel like he can do much. I hope this convo >helps him see that is ok for him to at least make the music >rather than thinking about it so much.
19. "I don't think he's been as clear with it prior to this." In response to Reply # 17
I knew there was some insecurity from previous interviews and even some of the music would kinda say it too, but this podcast allowed him to the comfort to be more frank about it.
>RE: I don't think he's been as clear with it prior to this. >I knew there was some insecurity from previous interviews and >even some of the music would kinda say it too, but this >podcast allowed him to the comfort to be more frank about it.
12. "Incredibly insightful convo..." In response to Reply # 0
..I expect nothing less from Rubin & 3000.
Hopefully, this helps fans/critics recognize that being a professional creative is much larger than desire (you, me, & everybody). That even when you want to continue, there are things (personal standards, integrity, LIFE, etc.) that effect your creative process that simply can't be ignored.
16. "Life is weird..." In response to Reply # 15 Wed Dec-18-19 12:22 PM by CyrenYoung
>some things were a bit weird but it was some cool insight.
That's just it: life is weird.
But life for a working professional creative is extreme in ways that most people never acknowledge. The simplest task can often become the most challenging aspect of your day, for reasons completely outside of your control.
The impact of that can be astounding.
Which is why as much as we might crave something new from our tried & true favs, we might be better served by returning to their previous efforts. Learn to listen for things we've never known or somehow long forgotten. Everything we need to know is right there. Life is in the music.
37. "RE: Fascinating that Rubin brought up Kid A and 808s," In response to Reply # 14
yeah but with The Love Below.. he had already primed us for it.
It wasn't a complete left turn (for me).
He had slowly built up to it from ATLiens through Stankonia with the increasing amount of Dre-sing sung choruses, the cross-genre instrumental experimentation.. even Southernplayalistic incorporated a lot of soul/funk/rock elements.
Essentially, The Love Below was the next logical progression. It was new, but it wasn't totally unexpected.
38. "I mean, to an extent maybe." In response to Reply # 37 Thu Dec-19-19 04:24 PM by Brew
>yeah but with The Love Below.. he had already primed us for >it. > >It wasn't a complete left turn (for me). > >He had slowly built up to it from ATLiens through Stankonia >with the increasing amount of Dre-sing sung choruses, the >cross-genre instrumental experimentation.. even >Southernplayalistic incorporated a lot of soul/funk/rock >elements. > >Essentially, The Love Below was the next logical progression. >It was new, but it wasn't totally unexpected.
But there's a difference between slight experimentation on otherwise very hip-hop sounding albums full of rap verses, like he did from Southern through Stankonia; and almost *completely* abandoning hip-hop all together, and singing about love for 20 tracks.
The leaps from Southern to ATL to Aquemini to Stank were incremental. The leap from Stank to TLB was MASSIVE. Know what I'm saying ?
So even if in hindsight it was *A* logical progression for his career, I'm not sure anyone (besides you, apparently, lol) heard TLB and immediately thought "yea, that makes sense." In hindsight, maybe. But right away I have a hard time believing that there were a lot of people nodding their heads like "yep this is exactly where I saw him taking his sound."
Pretty sure it was jarring for 99.999999% of OutKast fans to hear not a single rap verse until the very last of 20 songs.
20. "Regardless if this sparks his hip-hop creativity," In response to Reply # 0
It feels like he needed this convo. I feel like I heard him catch some moments of enlightenment. They said they went on to talk a lot more, and I wish I could hear that part, too.
21. "I think we will. The narrator during breaks ended by saying:" In response to Reply # 20
>They said they went on to >talk a lot more, and I wish I could hear that part, too.
"... but this will have to be it, for now" so I'm hoping "for now" is indicative that we can expect them to release parts of the rest of the conversation at a later time.
25. "Yea I kinda want him to do this for the whole album now lol." In response to Reply # 24
Cause next time I listen to that album and specifically, those two songs, I'll be going in with a totally different perspective which is kind of exciting.
Continues the conversation about meditation with him.
knowing there is a way to put a buffer on the thought spiral that can lead to negative ones is really something that could help 3k...
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32. "I haven’t listened to the whole thing but his Heiro shout out" In response to Reply # 0
is appreciated
That first album was crazy.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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