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PimpTrickGangstaClik
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"Poll question: Do you think Trump has more or less black support than in 2016?"


  

          

Do you think he can go from 8% in 2016 to 12% support in the 2020 election?
This article poses Trump's strategy for "the blacks" as crucial towards his re-election.
But as the article suggests, the strategy is probably more about suppressing black voters rather than turning them out.


"Florida is a case study in how a small shift in the black vote can make a big difference in a key battleground. According to exit polls, black voters made up 14 percent of the electorate in Florida in 2016, and Trump won just 8 percent of them. Had Trump received 12 percent, it would have netted him more than 50,000 votes, roughly half of his total margin of victory in the state."

Dennard, who worked in the George W. Bush White House and at the Republican National Committee, said Trump is courting African Americans far more aggressively than previous Republican presidential candidates did.

https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/13/trump-reelection-black-voters-082853

Poll result (19 votes)
More (12 votes)Vote
Less (5 votes)Vote
The same (2 votes)Vote

  

  

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More
Dec 13th 2019
1
its irrelevant because he has Russia's support.
Dec 13th 2019
2
Yep.
Dec 13th 2019
5
Underrated reply
Dec 13th 2019
8
i forget how many people have animosity towards immigrants
Dec 13th 2019
3
i see a lot of angst/confusion towards
Jan 30th 2020
14
They do... lol
Jan 30th 2020
15
yeah
Jan 30th 2020
16
i get that
Jan 30th 2020
17
the hate immigrants have for each other
Feb 03rd 2020
32
More with black men less with black women
Dec 13th 2019
4
More with black men. Black women, no change
Dec 13th 2019
6
Are there more coons today than there were 4 years ago?
Dec 13th 2019
7
^^^^ asking the right questions
Dec 13th 2019
9
I dunno about support in the voting booth
Feb 03rd 2020
26
MORE! Prisoners, STEM Funding, Opp Zones and Vets
Dec 13th 2019
10
i don't even know why I even come back here @ this point
Dec 13th 2019
11
Trump allies openly trying to buy votes.
Jan 29th 2020
12
itd be nice to have a functioning fec or non-corrupt doj.
Feb 03rd 2020
33
i'd like to think less but probably more.
Jan 29th 2020
13
More in raw number but smaller percentage depending on dem. Nominee
Feb 01st 2020
18
The question I have is about the mobilization of black voters in
Feb 01st 2020
19
More if they keep sending out cash...
Feb 03rd 2020
20
I swear he's going for the 'Dr. Umar' vote LOL
Feb 03rd 2020
21
Man.. ionno.
Feb 03rd 2020
22
its really hard to tell whats real and whats not.
Feb 03rd 2020
27
That Superbowl ad shows where their focus will be...
Feb 03rd 2020
23
yeah, it was pretty clear
Feb 03rd 2020
24
Where else would he try? Iowa? Wyoming? Lmao
Feb 03rd 2020
28
      If you asked me last year where the Trump would focus his energy...
Feb 03rd 2020
30
maybe trying to get #ADOS support with the new travel ban...
Feb 03rd 2020
25
a sliver of a sliver. it's pretty much a joke
Feb 04th 2020
37
Trump congratulates the Chiefs for repping Kansas in the SB
Feb 03rd 2020
29
lol yesterday the first thing i did was check if that was real
Feb 03rd 2020
31
these people will defend anything.
Feb 03rd 2020
34
      8k people liked that shit
Feb 03rd 2020
35
           seriously how does a country progress
Feb 03rd 2020
36

legsdiamond
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1. "More"
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overall I think most of the things progressives get worked up over aren’t even important to the average Black voter

and by average I mean older god fearing Black voters not the ones on twitter who do t even vote half the time

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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2. "its irrelevant because he has Russia's support."
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Fri Dec-13-19 11:33 AM by Hot_Damali

          

anyone who thinks this election will be fair and untampered with is delusional.

McConnell refuses to allow the Senate to vote on ANYTHING related to protecting the election.

the thumb is officially on the scale.

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5. "Yep."
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navajo joe
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8. "Underrated reply"
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None of this shit really matters because of this

"Regardless if you listen to me, in the end we'll see."
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mista k5
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3. "i forget how many people have animosity towards immigrants"
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my default thinking its only racist white people but nah everyone under the umbrella could hate immigrants enough to vote for trump.

  

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14. "i see a lot of angst/confusion towards"
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Thu Jan-30-20 12:20 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

illegal immigration, many of which are directly affected by it (black or otherwise). i
think some people try to commingle the two (legal and illegal).

  

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15. "They do... lol"
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I’ve always thought it was wild how people cape for illegals.

Where was this energy when Obama was deporting them at high numbers for 8 years?

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Crash Bandacoot
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16. "yeah"
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Thu Jan-30-20 12:39 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

from what i've observed, a lot of people (not just blacks) are upset about it. i live in
sanctuary county and it is directly affecting schools, taxes, employment, traffic,
crime, law enforcement, and citizen rights (or lack thereof). nobody is going to
want their taxes continuously hiked and money taken away in order to support it.

  

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17. "i get that"
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there is a distinction between people crossing legally and not. there are people who do believe in legal immigration. others do not.

i do think there needs to be reform to allow more people to come here legally. to make it easier and quicker to do so. many people are opposed to that.

some people do not care if people come here illegally.

i live in a border city. our wages are low. building a wall is not going to help that. business do open up shop across the border if they are going for low wages. that wont be changed by an anti-immigrant (legal or not) president.

illegal immigration is simply not one of our biggest problems or even the source of our problems.

  

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32. "the hate immigrants have for each other"
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is what troubles me the most. Like these people really be dedicated to giving up their ancestral connections for a taste of "america"
America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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4. "More with black men less with black women"
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6. "More with black men. Black women, no change "
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7. "Are there more coons today than there were 4 years ago?"
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Kanye doesn't count. My more pleasant answer is no. He will not do better.

https://news.gallup.com/opinion/polling-matters/268517/analyzing-black-support-president-trump.aspx

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9. "^^^^ asking the right questions"
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26. "I dunno about support in the voting booth"
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but if he happens to win a second term, it wouldn't surprise me to see black folks publicly kiss his ring if only to get something out of Trump and to use him in some opportunistic sense.

Somewhat similar to how a ton of the Republicans on Capital Hill that once joked and mocked Trump before he won the Republican nomination are now prominent bootlickers.

Just to be clear, I personally don't agree with that tactic because the man is a living breathing cesspool of a human being, but I wouldn't be shocked to see this go down.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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10. "MORE! Prisoners, STEM Funding, Opp Zones and Vets"
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Fri Dec-13-19 03:26 PM by Mori

          

Trump is branded as being really good for the working man and really bad for the man dependent on social services. I think regla schmegla black men are the strongest supporters. Black men do not really benefit from Fed social services other than Obamacare/medicare/disability.

Prisoners- There is so much being done on letting prisoners out and getting them jobs, than ever before in history. These are mainly black men.

Veterans have gotten crazy pay raises, first dibs on Fed and biz jobs and billions of dollars in investments, many vets are black men.

Opportunity Zones exist in largely low income and poor black neighborhoods with big businesses offering low skilled jobs whose recipients are mostly black men.

The STEM shift is impacting every sector of our economy and many black people were not a part of the rise happening during the Obama years. Companies are almost now obligated to interview black from HBCU programs.

Trump represents an ideology that you can do it without government services.

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11. "i don't even know why I even come back here @ this point"
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LMAO

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12. "Trump allies openly trying to buy votes."
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Wed Jan-29-20 09:00 PM by stravinskian

          

Envelopes stuffed with cash. (I posted this elsewhere but it's more relevant here.)

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/01/29/trump-black-voters-cash-giveaways-108072

  

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33. "itd be nice to have a functioning fec or non-corrupt doj."
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13. "i'd like to think less but probably more."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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18. "More in raw number but smaller percentage depending on dem. Nominee"
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And if they can get the why bother/no lesser of two evils/both parties are the same voters off the couch



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19. "The question I have is about the mobilization of black voters in "
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general. There were so many who didn’t vote at all in 2016 - will they be more motivated based on these last few years, or less?

  

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20. "More if they keep sending out cash..."
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Either way we're getting attacked. Trump is messed up but the Dems aren't trotting out the best candidate.

Joe Biden's fake civil rights marching rollout is trash.

Andrew Yang trolling black people has to stop.

Bernie isn't it either.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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21. "I swear he's going for the 'Dr. Umar' vote LOL"
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1) the "using a 501c3 to give away money to niggas" scheme
2) the "run an ad about a woman he may have helped to get out of a lengthy prison sentence"

I see the vision.
Target black folks long disaffected (and often ignored) by the neoliberal politics of the Democratic party. Throw 'em some money. Show that you might let some folks out of prison.

he'll pick a few more off than before on some 2004 George W. Bush... but most black voters (correctly) see him as a racist terror.

not a bad deal to capture the "hold your own nuts" vote. full circle with the types who don't fuck with Bernie because "he don't talk about racism right"

might be a good idea of how the GOP could further bring Black folks over to their side -- if they're willing to concede the white supremacist culture war and go full bore on their REAL agenda like Larry Hogan in MD.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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22. "Man.. ionno. "
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I definitely think there are some black people who legit think this dude ain’t doing a bad job...

I don’t know any tho.

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27. "its really hard to tell whats real and whats not."
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Mon Feb-03-20 12:27 PM by Reeq

  

          

ive never met a black trump supporter in person.

ive never even met someone that approved of the job he is doing.

the most ive seen is someone saying trump isnt that bad...compared to generally racist figures/forces in america. like killer mike saying we survived reagan so we can survive trump (nevermind the fact that a lot of us didnt survive reagan).

but i see some black trump supporters a lil too frequently on twitter/youtube/etc (who knows if theyre real/organic/etc).

in a recent wapo/ipsos poll...65% of black people say his presidency has been a bad time to be black in the country...80% say he is flat out racist...90% disapprove of his job as president.

im just gonna choose to believe thats reality cuz its a lot more comforting than the alternative lol.

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23. "That Superbowl ad shows where their focus will be..."
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The "inner cities".

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24. "yeah, it was pretty clear"
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28. "Where else would he try? Iowa? Wyoming? Lmao"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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30. "If you asked me last year where the Trump would focus his energy..."
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I damn sure wouldn't have said Opa-Locka

But I guess it makes sense to me now. Traditional Republicans are locked in.

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25. "maybe trying to get #ADOS support with the new travel ban..."
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https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/01/africa/nigeria-travel-ban-intl/index.html

Nigerians reacted with shock and anger after Africa's most populous country and largest economy was added to the Trump administration's controversial visa and travel bans list.

The ban, which is one of the US President's signature policies, now includes five other countries as well as Nigeria which have been blocked from obtaining certain types of visas.

Immigrants from Myanmar, Eritrea, Kyrgyzstan and Nigeria will be banned from the US. Tanzanian and Sudan citizens will no longer be able to apply for the "diversity visas," known as the green card lottery, according to the Department of Homeland Security.

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37. "a sliver of a sliver. it's pretty much a joke"
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as much as banning African countries from traveling to the US. That will backfire big time.

  

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29. "Trump congratulates the Chiefs for repping Kansas in the SB"
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Kansas, y'all.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2020/02/03/donald-trump-tweet-congratulates-kansas-chiefs-super-bowl-win


Just no excuse for this type of shit, man.

  

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31. "lol yesterday the first thing i did was check if that was real"
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not that he wouldn't do it but i thought it was one of those fake things everyone jumped on and shared, because they wanted to believe it.

turns out it was. the president of the united states. what a monumental dumbfuck

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34. "these people will defend anything."
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https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1224335680899354624

modern conservatism is basically just a cottage industry of people inventing ways to defend trump at all costs.

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35. "8k people liked that shit "
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on some "duh, exactly! libs are so dumb"

>https://twitter.com/mschlapp/status/1224335680899354624

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36. "seriously how does a country progress"
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with a major political party filled with people like that?

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