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Mori
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"Black Male Music artists dying vs. Black Female Music artists"


          

So Juice's death, Mac Miller, XXXTentacion, and Nipsey all make me wonder what is going on with black men in the music industry. Why aren't black women affected?

Is the music industry just a microcosm of society? Overall, I can't remember a black woman dying of a drug-related or violence-related death since Whitney Houston.

What is going on or is this just a part of the culture?

Some blame the older hip hop generation.
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Young men engage in more risky behavior than women.
Dec 11th 2019
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That tweet is wrong-as-fuck. Dude must be like 21 himself.
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During that era, the drug deaths were distributed
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      It has always been mostly young men dying early in entertainment
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I hate to be all personal responsibility but ummm
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You are likely not a creative or an artist
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      False. I’m a creative and I used to tour in a band.
Dec 12th 2019
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      a mission to save young black men? LOLLLL
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           Black men really don't give a fuck about other black men
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                That’s because society doesn’t want to save us
Dec 13th 2019
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                who is apathetic?
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young men die of completely avoidable shit at a ridiculous rate
Dec 11th 2019
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idgaf what jorney lucas or tank have to say about literally anything
Dec 11th 2019
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Are you saying we should throw up our hands?
Dec 11th 2019
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      I don't think Juice WRLD, or the next Juice WRLD
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Mac Miller...black...somebody tell this man....
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Hip-Hop just reflects life.
Dec 12th 2019
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True... dude just pointed out Mac Miller
Dec 12th 2019
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Mac Miller was White.
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Teknontheou
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Wed Dec-11-19 02:13 PM

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1. "Young men engage in more risky behavior than women."
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Drugs, guns, gang-life (in the case of Nipsey, I'm putting that on Eric Garner, not Nip).

Remy and Da Brat did too, but no one died in those cases.

  

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flipnile
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Wed Dec-11-19 02:20 PM

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2. "That tweet is wrong-as-fuck. Dude must be like 21 himself."
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Guess he missed all the young black jazz artists that died from heroin or other drugs, as well as musicians in rock, soul, etc.

The dude that wrote that shit probably only listens to rap, so there that goes.

  

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Mori
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Wed Dec-11-19 06:31 PM

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4. "During that era, the drug deaths were distributed"
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But, during the last 20 years, you only really see males dying of drugs. In the black music world, it appears overwhelmingly to be men. Maybe there are more black men in the music entertainment industry, specifically hip hop.

Doesn't seem like anyone really cares about your young black music artists beyond how much they can entertain and sell us fantasies. I think it is sad.

I do blame some of the old heads who don't seem to care what happens to the next generation.

If I had a black son, I would be very worried about him getting eaten by black hip hop culture.

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flipnile
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Thu Dec-12-19 12:19 PM

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13. "It has always been mostly young men dying early in entertainment"
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Thu Dec-12-19 12:23 PM by flipnile

          

Black, white or other. Of course there are a fair number of women that have passed away too soon as well.

Males are largely disposable in our society (see: wars throughout history for proof). For many of us, we can never be great unless we take great risks. Sometimes those risks (like drugs and violence) are bad decisions with terrible consequences.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pop_musicians_who_died_of_drug_overdose

  

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legsdiamond
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Wed Dec-11-19 02:23 PM

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3. "I hate to be all personal responsibility but ummm"
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there was never a time where I thought heavy drug use and guns was a good for my health.

shut up already, damn

  

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Mori
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Wed Dec-11-19 08:49 PM

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8. "You are likely not a creative or an artist"
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Wed Dec-11-19 08:51 PM by Mori

          

Many creatives are vulnerable to anxiety and depression so they turn to other "remedies". I am just shocked that after so many deaths in the last two years, there is not one mission, effort, discussion or urgency to intervene for these kids. I consider under 25 to still be somewhat of an adolescent.

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legsdiamond
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Thu Dec-12-19 12:40 PM

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14. "False. I’m a creative and I used to tour in a band. "
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I just never fell for the hype of hard drugs.

Seem too many creatives fall hard from that shit.






shut up already, damn

  

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Thu Dec-12-19 09:12 PM

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16. "a mission to save young black men? LOLLLL"
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Mori
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17. "Black men really don't give a fuck about other black men"
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I am always shocked when I hear these apathetic responses from seemingly intelligent black men.

Whatever, let y'all asses drop dead then.

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legsdiamond
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18. "That’s because society doesn’t want to save us"
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local churches and community centers do a good job helping Black men.

However, you aren’t going to see a bunch of federal programs being advertised on TV or in the news.

shut up already, damn

  

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19. "who is apathetic?"
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everyone acknowledges there is a problem.

they think you're approaching it the wrong way.

if you think you're right, then go forward, the worst that can happen is you fail and at least you tried.

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Rjcc
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5. "young men die of completely avoidable shit at a ridiculous rate"
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mostly for reasons you can guess.

having a bunch of money and attention makes it worse.

women aren't socialized to chase danger in that same way, so they respond to the stress differently


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6. "idgaf what jorney lucas or tank have to say about literally anything"
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Mori
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7. "Are you saying we should throw up our hands?"
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I think this is an epidemic and worthy of more attention from the male hip hop community. Surprised that so many men are just chalking this up to being a man in America instead of looking at what is slipping through the cracks and allowing a 21 year old to make decisions that cost him and his mini empire millions.

I guess maybe as a woman, I would want to start an org/movement dedicated to addressing young black male artists and preventing them from doing self destructive things. But maybe men know the hearts of other men and realize that any intervention to save young black men from themselves in futile.

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9. "I don't think Juice WRLD, or the next Juice WRLD"
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is going to directly or even indirectly take my calls on how to live his life


I think there's a lot of stuff to be done, in terms of improving how people, particularly young men, view themselves and how to handle the world. specific to young artists, idk. what really are you going to tell a young man with a lot of money and power and not a lot of experience living life that's going to get through to him?

having been a young man, I think your best bet is to catch them earlier, late, you can listen but at that point you're basically hoping they'll live through it to be older.

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10. "Mac Miller...black...somebody tell this man...."
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11. "Hip-Hop just reflects life. "
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What's going on in Hip-Hop is going on in the black community (albeit more intensely).



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12. "True... dude just pointed out Mac Miller"
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and whole dude is white the opiod crisis is real af in Western PA

shut up already, damn

  

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15. "Mac Miller was White. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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