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ThaTruth
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"#BeingAtHomeWhileBlack"


  

          

https://fox2now.com/2019/10/13/a-woman-was-shot-and-killed-by-a-fort-worth-police-officer-in-her-own-home/?

  

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or just being at home in general
Oct 13th 2019
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mostly, statistically and disproportionately us tho.
Oct 13th 2019
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im not muddying a damn thing
Oct 13th 2019
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      Yeah, there was another recent story of a man being shot in his home
Oct 13th 2019
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      fuck yes cops are racist belligerent assholes
Oct 13th 2019
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           It can easily be both
Oct 13th 2019
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                of course it can, but i wasnt "muddying the waters"
Oct 13th 2019
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      Stats and history make it unlikely emotions pertaining to appearance
Oct 13th 2019
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      i said what i said.
Oct 13th 2019
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      These folks are exhausting.
Oct 13th 2019
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      here let me make it less exhausting for you
Oct 13th 2019
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           Eat a dick white man.
Oct 13th 2019
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      If we're ever going to get to solutions, we need a better strategy
Oct 13th 2019
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           Nah that's not a better strategy that gets to solutions
Oct 14th 2019
22
                White peoples don’t give a shit if white people get killed by cops
Oct 14th 2019
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                     Yep that's true
Oct 14th 2019
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                     that's largely true and infuriating but if there were more exposure ...
Oct 15th 2019
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      So if Botham Jean was a blond haired surfer dude he still gets murdered....
Oct 14th 2019
21
      Get the Fuck out of Here, the Cops knew the neighborhood and the type
Oct 14th 2019
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           thank you. for once, you don't act like i'm crazy LOL
Oct 14th 2019
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yeah this is true and ignored. still black folks get the worst end by fa...
Oct 15th 2019
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From what I hear her screen door was closed
Oct 13th 2019
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we literally went from 95 one day
Oct 13th 2019
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      Growing up we always took advantage of cool nights
Oct 13th 2019
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           this is what tears me up
Oct 13th 2019
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                I would never call the cops for an open door
Oct 13th 2019
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                     ya i would hope in that situation i would have more certainity
Oct 13th 2019
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A bully is going to bully who they think they can bully
Oct 13th 2019
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Thing is, I don't think they are bullies. I think they are scared. And...
Oct 14th 2019
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      Scared bullies.
Oct 14th 2019
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      They're being trained to be "scared" to justify their evil doings
Oct 14th 2019
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           Saying they are scared doesn't legitimize shit they are doing.
Oct 14th 2019
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           behavior analysis doesn't legitimize anything
Oct 14th 2019
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           .
Oct 14th 2019
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                If someone calls the cops bullies and you say “they just scared”...
Oct 14th 2019
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                     Exactly:
Oct 14th 2019
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f@#k a paid settlement....we need real consequences
Oct 14th 2019
35
I made this piece a few weeks back when Guyger was sentenced
Oct 14th 2019
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so you're using this tragedy to get your views up?
Oct 14th 2019
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      Lol. What views....
Oct 14th 2019
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      But you are right...
Oct 14th 2019
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           Homey don't start listening to every criticism you receive on the intern...
Oct 15th 2019
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Fort Worth police officer who fatally shot Atatiana Jefferson resigns...
Oct 14th 2019
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Welp, now that his name is out there I am sure Aaron Dean has plenty tim...
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      he was not alone, I want to know who the other officers were...
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Aaron Dean charged with murder:
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a lot of times charges are brought but conviction rate is pathetic
Oct 15th 2019
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now they're saying she pointed a gun so he might get probation...
Oct 15th 2019
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did that 8 year old have a lawyer when he made this statement?
Oct 15th 2019
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so basically; water is wet?
Oct 15th 2019
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If that isn't the time to pull out a gun, when is?
Oct 15th 2019
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This is one of those rare situations where I can't find ANYONE...
Oct 15th 2019
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Shouldn't matter. She was in her own home.
Oct 15th 2019
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Yep
Oct 15th 2019
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Thank you.
Oct 15th 2019
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Fuck I wish the nephew hadn’t said that.
Oct 15th 2019
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Nah
Oct 15th 2019
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      RE: Nah
Oct 15th 2019
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           Exactly
Oct 15th 2019
56
man fuck that. they parked on another street and crept around.
Oct 15th 2019
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Her father has passed away
Nov 10th 2019
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GriftyMcgrift
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1. "or just being at home in general"
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Sun Oct-13-19 03:29 PM by GriftyMcgrift

  

          

this white guy got a taste also


south carolina a few months ago cops also lied about what happened until the video came out

still doesnt seem like anything happened to the cop


cops showing up to people's home and shooting at the first thing they see while OUTSIDE is fucking insane


https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/30/us/south-carolina-police-shooting-homeowner-simpsonville/index.html


https://newsmaven.io/pinacnews/eye-on-government/department-finds-cop-who-shot-man-through-his-own-front-door-did-nothing-wrong-ueVrRxk-q06ntK0psuEduA/

  

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Damali
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4. "mostly, statistically and disproportionately us tho."
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don't muddy this, thanks.

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GriftyMcgrift
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5. "im not muddying a damn thing"
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its very unlikely the cop in either situation could tell the race of the person they were shooting through a dark window

I'm saying its unlikely race had anything to do with it in this situation and it is more likely that this idiot cops walk around thinking everyone is out to get them in every situation


but hey sure tell me how i should comment on this post its fine

  

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7. "Yeah, there was another recent story of a man being shot in his home"
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Because the cops went to the wrong address

Their defense; he's an illegal, so he doesn't have any rights

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.usatoday.com/amp/3822559002

I'm not sure what ignoring similar stories helps

WE know there's a disparity...but that's for every injustice in this country

We need legislation that makes these shootings mandatory sentences

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9. "fuck yes cops are racist belligerent assholes"
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with a culture around dehumanizing minorities

this is absolutely true


but in situations like this i feel like it is alot less race related and alot more cops walking around like they are at war type thing

  

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12. "It can easily be both"
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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14. "of course it can, but i wasnt "muddying the waters""
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and i was certainly well within reason to point out some shit like this just happened and the cop as far as ive heard so far sufferred no consequences

  

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11. "Stats and history make it unlikely emotions pertaining to appearance"
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Were not a factor

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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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Damali
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16. "i said what i said."
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17. "These folks are exhausting. "
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“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus

  

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GriftyMcgrift
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18. "here let me make it less exhausting for you"
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19. "Eat a dick white man. "
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And even more dicks if you a nigga.

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20. "If we're ever going to get to solutions, we need a better strategy "
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Than trying to win the tragedy Olympics

Remember BLM

Never even got to a real convo about solutions

Because this country is so racist...they wanted to debate and argue...FACTS

FACTS you know, facts I know

You want to keep educating yt folks about their privilege....here's your gold medal

This shooting and killing people in their own homes feels like an escalation

I don't think excluding people is helpful.

You want to keep the focus exclusively on black suffering...these racist MFers will continue to turn a blind eye.

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22. "Nah that's not a better strategy that gets to solutions"
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it's muddying the waters.

>Than trying to win the tragedy Olympics
>
>Remember BLM
>
>Never even got to a real convo about solutions
>
>Because this country is so racist...they wanted to debate and
>argue...FACTS
>
>FACTS you know, facts I know
>
>You want to keep educating yt folks about their
>privilege....here's your gold medal
>
>This shooting and killing people in their own homes feels like
>an escalation
>
>I don't think excluding people is helpful.
>
>You want to keep the focus exclusively on black
>suffering...these racist MFers will continue to turn a blind
>eye.

How is being dismissive and defensive helpful ? All lives matter is not a better strategy or solution.

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27. "White peoples don’t give a shit if white people get killed by cops"
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Unless if the cop was Black or brown they defend the cop.



shut up already, damn

  

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32. "Yep that's true"
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>Unless if the cop was Black or brown they defend the cop.
>
>

That Black cop in Minneapolis got convicted.

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59. "that's largely true and infuriating but if there were more exposure ..."
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it might not be. for teen to 20s black men, about 1 in 1000 will be killed by law enforcement. that's insane. but for whites it's about 1 in 2500. disproportionate but not negligible. if people knew that and were exposed to the most extreme cases, they might start realizing it could be their kid next and get off their asses.

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21. "So if Botham Jean was a blond haired surfer dude he still gets murdered...."
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in his on home?

In this Ft Worth case you dont think this cop knew the neighborhood and who lived there?

  

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23. "Get the Fuck out of Here, the Cops knew the neighborhood and the type"
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of families that live in that neighborhood. You a fool if you think cops would be going into fancy white neighborhoods and start shooting into random homes.

This is 100% a race issue. Cops don't value black lives so they shoot first and ask questions later.



>its very unlikely the cop in either situation could tell the
>race of the person they were shooting through a dark window
>
>I'm saying its unlikely race had anything to do with it in
>this situation and it is more likely that this idiot cops walk
>around thinking everyone is out to get them in every
>situation
>
>
>but hey sure tell me how i should comment on this post its
>fine


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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33. "thank you. for once, you don't act like i'm crazy LOL"
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57. "yeah this is true and ignored. still black folks get the worst end by fa..."
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i think if the media started framing it as an everyone problem, it would get more traction. but framing it as a race issue is more comfortable for all parties involved. the news media creates more buzz. it becomes a more polar issue. and the cops can keep getting away with it because most of the viewing audience just wants to be "on the right side of history" rather than actually doing anything to ameliorate the problem.

that said, it's hard to talk about this in a serious and accurate manner while ignoring the racial component. cops kill out of fear and out of disregard for human life. they fear black people more and value their lives less. those are just fucking facts and i don't encourage people to ignore them.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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2. "From what I hear her screen door was closed"
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So this is just the typical door open for air circulation and dude didn’t announce himself as a cop.

Smh.

Can’t even chill at home.

shut up already, damn

  

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3. "we literally went from 95 one day"
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to 50 by night time

its been so damn hot ive been dying to open some windows and shit to enjoy some nice weather for once

and this lady is fucking dead jesus christ

  

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8. "Growing up we always took advantage of cool nights "
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Plus, if you are comfortable in your neighborhood you should be able to have you front door open.

The fuck you calling cops for?

shut up already, damn

  

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10. "this is what tears me up"
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because i could be on either side of this situation

i know my neighbors kinda

immediate neighbors left and right but a few houses down? if i saw their doors open in the middle of the night i might be concerned and could see myself calling the cops in some situations


i live in dallas
own lots of guns, am up late and have done stupid shit like forget to close a door or something random so i could have been on that side too

shits fucked up man


and i know this should be a standing rule but every day makes you reconsider what exactly the cops are good for and only under the most dire circumstances should they be getting involved because when they do show up and fuck up thats your problem to deal with not theirs. to them its just another day

  

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13. "I would never call the cops for an open door"
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and a closed screen door.

Mind ya business or go over and knock like a neighbor.

shut up already, damn

  

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15. "ya i would hope in that situation i would have more certainity"
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that something bad was going on and that wasnt my immediate reacion

  

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6. "A bully is going to bully who they think they can bully"
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till they get their ish split.

It's really that simple.

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24. "Thing is, I don't think they are bullies. I think they are scared. And..."
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is scared to go into certain areas then they shouldn't be cops.


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25. "Scared bullies. "
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shut up already, damn

  

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26. "They're being trained to be "scared" to justify their evil doings "
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We as citizens, especially black citizens shouldn't sit up here and try to legitimize their go to excuse for constantly murdering unarmed civilians


This isn't a issue of individuals with the same job being too frightened to do that job; it's who and how the job itself is systematically operated by, for and against

  

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28. "Saying they are scared doesn't legitimize shit they are doing. "
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Or even excuse it.

They don't value black lives. That's the crime and problem that this cop should go to jail for. Cops should think, If I recklessly take a black life, a may go to jail.



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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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34. "behavior analysis doesn't legitimize anything"
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29. "."
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30. "If someone calls the cops bullies and you say “they just scared”..."
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It does sound like an excuse because we all know “I feared for my life” is what they are trained to say to get away with extrajudicial murders.


They are not simply scared, is the point. That’s just their excuse to murder people with impunity; let’s not repeat it for them

  

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31. "Exactly:"
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>It does sound like an excuse because we all know “I feared
>for my life” is what they are trained to say to get away
>with extrajudicial murders.
>
>
>They are not simply scared, is the point. That’s just their
>excuse to murder people with impunity; let’s not repeat it
>for them

  

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35. "f@#k a paid settlement....we need real consequences"
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We need the name of this cop so we can do a social media check on his background and then this cop must be punished. Fuck a transfer, fuck a leave.....jail is the only justice. Fuck police reform. Real consequences for these cops will reform the police.
A paid family settlement with no jail time for the perpetrator sends a message of no consequence and they will just keep doing this. Shooting someone while doing a wellness check? And who cares if a gun was found in the house. She was not holding it. Also....it's Texas!!!! Every home has a gun....well should according to gun rights advocates.
Ridiculous.

  

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36. "I made this piece a few weeks back when Guyger was sentenced"
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....and at first it was just to deal with the frustration and get it off my chest, but I think I'm going to mix it and share it

https://youtu.be/RG-ADojkMjU

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37. "so you're using this tragedy to get your views up?"
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41. "Lol. What views...."
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....its less taxing on me emotionally to respond to the I internet this way than to comment/reply to every post, thread, or event.

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42. "But you are right..."
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....you've given me some perspective. The way I approached sharing and posting that was all types of "Eww!"
I apologize. And thank you

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44. "Homey don't start listening to every criticism you receive on the intern..."
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Dude just criticized you for making art in response to some fucked up shit going on out there in the world. SMH.


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38. "Fort Worth police officer who fatally shot Atatiana Jefferson resigns..."
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https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/fort-worth-police-officer-who-fatally-shot-atatiana-jefferson-resigns-n1065866?

  

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39. "Welp, now that his name is out there I am sure Aaron Dean has plenty tim..."
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to clean up his social media and get his story straight. Thanks Fort Worth PD.


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40. "he was not alone, I want to know who the other officers were..."
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Aaron Dean fired the shot but he was not alone. I trying to figure out what part of a "welfare check" consists of sneaking around to the back yard with guns drawn instead of just knocking on the front door.

The screen doors were closed so it's not like the house was just wide open....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzDEQLjVrp0

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/10/14/fort-worth-officer-who-fatally-shot-atatiana-jefferson-has-resigned-chief-says/

  

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43. "Aaron Dean charged with murder:"
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https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2019/10/14/former-fort-worth-police-officer-aaron-dean-charged-murder-atatiana-jefferson/

  

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60. "a lot of times charges are brought but conviction rate is pathetic"
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it's crazy how in most criminal cases the conviction rate is probably around 80%. but this shit gets before a grand jury and they almost never convict. the charges are usually just damage control by the city (or state if it's a state trooper), and in the end they don't mean much. his resignation is the only positive sign so far because sometimes these fuckers end up back in law enforcement in some capacity once the dust settles.

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45. "now they're saying she pointed a gun so he might get probation..."
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Atatiana Jefferson pointed gun at window before Fort Worth officer killed her, nephew told authorities

The police chief says it made sense for the 28-year-old to arm herself if she thought someone was in the backyard of her home.

https://www.dallasnews.com/news/crime/2019/10/15/atatiana-jefferson-pointed-gun-out-window-before-fort-worth-officer-killed-her-nephew-told-authorities/

By Dana Branham

11:07 AM on Oct 15, 2019

A murder warrant for Aaron Dean, the Fort Worth officer who killed Atatiana Jefferson, tells what led up to the shooting from the perspective of her 8-year-old nephew, who was in the room with her when she was shot.

The boy told a forensic interviewer that he and his aunt were playing video games together about 2:30 a.m. Saturday when she heard noises outside. She took her handgun from her purse and pointed it “toward the window” before she was shot, the nephew said, according to the arrest-warrant affidavit.

The 8-year-old saw his aunt fall to the ground. Jefferson, 28, was pronounced dead at 3:05 a.m.

Interim Police Chief Ed Kraus said at a news conference Tuesday that it “makes sense that she would have a gun if she felt that she was being threatened or there was someone in the backyard.”

That sentiment was echoed by an attorney for Jefferson’s family. Lee Merritt said Jefferson had every right to defend herself. The officers did not announce themselves as law enforcement.

“It’s only appropriate that Ms. Jefferson would have a gun,” he said at a news conference Tuesday, noting that the gun was legally owned and she had a license to carry it.

Merritt accused the Fort Worth Police Department of providing a defense for Dean by writing that Jefferson had pointed a gun at the window before Dean fired.

Fort Worth Mayor Betsy Price, speaking at a news conference a day earlier, said the gun was irrelevant.

“She was in her own home,” the mayor said of Jefferson. “She was taken from her family in circumstances that are truly unthinkable.”

Kraus said previously that the department’s decision to release a still image of the firearm found in the room where Jefferson was shot — without any further information about the weapon or what it had to do with the case — wasn’t the right call.


Dean, 34, was arrested at his attorney’s office about 6 p.m. Monday on a murder charge. He was freed from the Tarrant County Jail after posting $200,000 bond shortly after 9 p.m., court records show.

Kraus, who spoke before the affidavit was released, said it’s still unclear what Dean was thinking when he shot through a bedroom window, striking Jefferson.

The former officer, who resigned Monday, has not provided a written statement nor answered any questions, the chief said. Kraus had been prepared to fire the officer Monday morning, but Dean quit before he could.

Dean and another officer had been called about 2:30 a.m. Saturday to Jefferson’s mother’s home in the 1200 block of East Allen Avenue. A neighbor had called a non-emergency line to report that the home’s lights were on and its doors open.

An arrest-warrant affidavit for Dean released by police Tuesday said the glass storm doors to the house were closed, but the front and side interior doors were open. Officers peered into the residence through the storm doors but did not see anyone, and they did not announce their presence, according to the affidavit.



In body-camera footage of the shooting, Dean walks around in the backyard of the home. About a minute and a half into the recording released by Fort worth police, Dean swivels toward a window, shouts at Jefferson to put up her hands and shoots her, all in a matter of seconds.

The chief said the shooting has been trying for the department.

Kraus got choked up as he likened the aftermath of the shooting to ants working to build an anthill, when “somebody comes with a hose and washes it away and they just have to start from scratch.”

“We have a great many officers who work extremely hard every day,” Kraus said. “I ask you please do not let the actions of one officer reflect on the other 1,700. There’s absolutely no excuse for this incident.”

Staff writer Jennifer Emily contributed to this report.

  

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46. "did that 8 year old have a lawyer when he made this statement? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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47. "so basically; water is wet? "
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48. "If that isn't the time to pull out a gun, when is?"
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But yeah, they're going to use that to say he had legit reasons to shot smh.

And the demographics of Ft. Worth are different than Dallas (the venue for the Guyger case), so a jury may be sympathetic to that argument.

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49. "This is one of those rare situations where I can't find ANYONE..."
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... sympathetic to the cop.

I move in online spaces where I usually get to hear the other side's justifications for this shit. This time, even THEY'RE like, 'oh, nah.'

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50. "Shouldn't matter. She was in her own home. "
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Some dudes outside shining flashlights in the window, what would you do?

This is precisely the argument the NRA makes for gun ownership.

And why is nobody centering on the fact that this was supposed to be a welfare check. Why didn't the officers trying ringing the fucking doorbell first?


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53. "Yep"
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>Some dudes outside shining flashlights in the window, what
>would you do?
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>This is precisely the argument the NRA makes for gun
>ownership.
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>And why is nobody centering on the fact that this was supposed
>to be a welfare check. Why didn't the officers trying ringing
>the fucking doorbell first?
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Yep neighbor called it in on non emergency line, cop should have started with the doorbell.

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54. "Thank you. "
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Meanwhile if she had fired first the other cops would’ve unloaded on her.
They thought they were walking up on a burglary and responded as such because they love property protection more than they love black people.

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51. "Fuck I wish the nephew hadn’t said that. "
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‪Not that I wanted the traumatized nephew to lie but this makes me sad to hear—NOT BECAUSE I DONT THINK SHE WAS JUSTIFIED, SHE WAS—but because this might provide cover for the cop or the police force to say he was in the right. 😡‬

  

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52. "Nah"
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>‪Not that I wanted the traumatized nephew to lie but this
>makes me sad to hear—NOT BECAUSE I DONT THINK SHE WAS
>JUSTIFIED, SHE WAS—but because this might provide cover for
>the cop or the police force to say he was in the right.
>😡‬

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55. "RE: Nah"
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I mean, the cops found the gun anyway, and made SURE to film it sitting on the ground after the shooting was over in order to justify it.

But from what the family's lawyer said, the cop wouldn't have been able to see her holding the gun from the angle of where he was standing. Which I'd hope the prosecution would be able to prove.

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56. "Exactly"
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That's interesting what the family lawyer said about the angle.

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58. "man fuck that. they parked on another street and crept around."
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even if she did point a gun at him, that should not be a mitigating circumstance and much less to that extent. she is in her own home. they did not identify themselves as law enforcement, park in front of the home or attempt to enter the home in a straightforward manner, such as ringing the doorbell or knocking on the door. for their lack of protocol and proper conduct, she paid the ultimate price, and this guy should pay handsomely for his mistakes, too.

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61. "Her father has passed away"
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https://www.newsweek.com/father-woman-shot-white-cop-dies-heart-attack-1470858

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