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Pete
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"Cheated, feeling guilty"


          

Y'all, I done fucked up and now I'm feeling type stupid with the wrenched gut. What can I do short of confessing (cause I don't think that's gonna do any good)?

Long story short, I found out after about 1.5 yrs with my girl that shortly after we started seeing each other, she fucked a friend of a friend, after I thought we were already connecting pretty well and I wasn't trying to be out there fucking around.

She told me cause she felt guilty, but it was too much for my pride and I wound up going and and fucking somebody too. It was a stupid and horrible experience, not even enjoyable.

Fast forward a year, and I got this guilt creeping up on me all the time, I think it's even affecting my physically. I would tell her, but why ruin a great relationship because of one stupid mistake? What happened meant nothing, was momentary, and will never happen again.

Fuck!

Any thoughts?

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Take it to the grave fam.
Sep 27th 2019
1
RE: Take it to the grave fam.
Sep 27th 2019
7
^this
Sep 28th 2019
39
Bruh, this relationship is done... y'all both cheating on each other
Sep 27th 2019
2
RE: Bruh, this relationship is done... y'all both cheating on each other
Sep 27th 2019
10
^^type of dude that throw away a whole belt 'cause the buckle hit the ur...
Sep 27th 2019
17
      I actually laughed out loud...loudly
Sep 27th 2019
18
      Said here quite a few times that cheating is a hard line for me
Sep 30th 2019
49
Hang in there nigga!!!!!
Sep 27th 2019
3
"I think it's even affecting my physically"
Sep 27th 2019
4
RE: "I think it's even affecting my physically"
Sep 27th 2019
8
I feel you and it's easy for me to say it but
Sep 27th 2019
11
      RE: I feel you and it's easy for me to say it but
Sep 27th 2019
13
putting pain on her to soothe his own conscience aint nec the move
Sep 28th 2019
33
Nigga go please tell her and report back
Sep 27th 2019
5
I don't think he waited a year...
Sep 27th 2019
6
      RE: I don't think he waited a year...
Sep 27th 2019
9
           Awwwe nigga.. real talk. You really want to tell her
Sep 27th 2019
21
           got it now...
Sep 27th 2019
29
                RE: got it now...
Sep 28th 2019
35
                     what’s the chances of her finding out?
Sep 29th 2019
47
                          he didn’t appreciate you staying or did he want out?
Sep 30th 2019
53
                               appreciate me...
Oct 04th 2019
103
it's clearly not a great relationship if y'all can't even be honest
Sep 27th 2019
12
RE: it's clearly not a great relationship if y'all can't even be honest
Sep 27th 2019
14
Best Grown Folk Response!
Oct 04th 2019
104
fam just confess to it but blame it on her.
Sep 27th 2019
15
you're a piece of shit and this is why men are trash.
Sep 27th 2019
25
i blame you.
Sep 27th 2019
28
      I'll take "What an Incel Would Say" for $500, Alex
Sep 28th 2019
40
           its your fault.
Sep 28th 2019
41
                Keep telling yourself that.
Sep 28th 2019
42
damn breh, that kind of shit works on some brainless jumpoff, but not .....
Oct 01st 2019
73
That's only acceptable if a woman is saying it to a man. A man
Oct 05th 2019
108
breh forget that shit if you trying to be w/ her for real.
Sep 27th 2019
16
guilt is a powerful thing
Sep 28th 2019
34
Odds are that's just the one you know about
Sep 27th 2019
19
Right? Carl Thomas that shit
Sep 27th 2019
22
      *mario winans.
Sep 27th 2019
24
           Him too
Sep 27th 2019
27
that feeling aint gonna go away....
Sep 27th 2019
20
alternate non-popular opinion
Sep 27th 2019
23
how long ago was the cheating?
Sep 27th 2019
26
Is this guilt or resentment?
Sep 27th 2019
30
1. you sound stupid. 2. dont be stupid
Sep 27th 2019
31
Please tell him again
Sep 28th 2019
46
^^^^^^^^
Oct 01st 2019
63
yall aint even married, this was a yr ago? man, drop it.
Sep 28th 2019
32
"shortly after we started seeing each other" sounds like you were single
Sep 28th 2019
36
Confess
Sep 28th 2019
37
RE: Cheated, feeling guilty
Sep 28th 2019
38
This post illustrates why most people suck at true intimacy
Sep 28th 2019
43
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATJhCIeaqo
Sep 28th 2019
44
are you expecting me to click that link? lol
Sep 30th 2019
50
illustrates how some people know how to stay together
Sep 28th 2019
45
again "staying together" is some external facing fake shit
Sep 30th 2019
48
      When keeping it real goes wrong^^^
Sep 30th 2019
51
           i said what i said, coward.
Oct 01st 2019
55
                This coward is a loving Husband and Father
Oct 01st 2019
58
                     ^^^^^^^^
Oct 01st 2019
77
                     and? this post has nothing to do with whether folks are "loving"
Oct 01st 2019
81
                          I think it does have something to do with loving your SO
Oct 02nd 2019
91
                               or love them enough to be honest and vulnerable
Oct 03rd 2019
92
everybody walks their own path
Oct 01st 2019
88
      true and some people's path is "fake and dishonest" *shrug*
Oct 03rd 2019
93
           some people never even get the opportunity
Oct 03rd 2019
98
                that's true.
Oct 04th 2019
100
is telling her going to free you from the guilt you're feeling?
Sep 30th 2019
52
Affecting you physically huh? Did she burn you?
Sep 30th 2019
54
I've been with my wife for almost 20 years.
Oct 01st 2019
56
alladis
Oct 01st 2019
59
nice
Oct 01st 2019
60
She cheated. He cheated.
Oct 01st 2019
61
Ninja you don't think some of them 30+ year relationships I mentioned...
Oct 01st 2019
62
      I guess we all have a different idea of what works in
Oct 01st 2019
64
           you married or single
Oct 01st 2019
67
                I like that
Oct 01st 2019
69
                     You say that now. Throw in a house, few cars and some kids
Oct 01st 2019
70
                          RE: You say that now. Throw in a house, few cars and some kids
Oct 01st 2019
71
u really out here equating a white lie about weight with cheating/betray...
Oct 01st 2019
82
.
Oct 01st 2019
84
      LoL
Oct 03rd 2019
95
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Oct 03rd 2019
94
people (cis hetero men mostly) need to learn how to self-soothe more
Oct 04th 2019
102
posts like this make me realize somethn wrong with me
Oct 01st 2019
57
It is
Oct 01st 2019
65
      Yup. Wonder if dude is married or single.
Oct 01st 2019
68
      or you're just on that "sober thoughts" shit
Oct 01st 2019
72
      I used to be a dog
Oct 01st 2019
74
      RE: or you're just on that "sober thoughts" shit
Oct 01st 2019
75
           something like that, a little less leaning and squinting
Oct 04th 2019
101
      Add on top of that Kota line how your KIDS feel.
Oct 01st 2019
76
      Bruh. Kids changed everything for me
Oct 01st 2019
78
           can't relate... no kids life
Oct 05th 2019
109
                This makes sense
Oct 07th 2019
113
      these were relationships in my early 20s
Oct 05th 2019
105
           Hope so
Oct 05th 2019
107
      thanks, doc
Oct 05th 2019
106
           Welcome, patient
Oct 05th 2019
110
make peace with it and move forward
Oct 01st 2019
66
I agree w BG re: go to therapy about it
Oct 01st 2019
79
lol @ everybody having a dog in this
Oct 01st 2019
80
he shared it on a public forum and asked for opinions.
Oct 01st 2019
83
always sauntering in mad late too..
Oct 01st 2019
85
i been busy
Oct 01st 2019
87
lol.. thanks for feeding me.
Oct 01st 2019
86
      Why be that guy tho?
Oct 02nd 2019
89
           lol... seems like maybe you know
Oct 02nd 2019
90
LoL shutup
Oct 03rd 2019
96
      "Are you talking to me?!" ~ Donald Bickle
Oct 03rd 2019
99
also: you might want to get tested, whether condoms were used or not
Oct 03rd 2019
97
Wait you felt away because she had sex while you
Oct 06th 2019
111
Might wanna go to the doctor, could be something waaaay
Oct 06th 2019
112
Dr. Ruth weighs in.
Oct 22nd 2019
114

Buddy_Gilapagos
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1. "Take it to the grave fam. "
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And go to therapy and talk about it.

If you learned your lesson, I don't know what telling her does for HER.


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Pete
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7. "RE: Take it to the grave fam. "
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Yeah, that therapy might be a good idea

  

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39. "^this"
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flipnile
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2. "Bruh, this relationship is done... y'all both cheating on each other"
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Fri Sep-27-19 10:34 AM by flipnile

          

You can let it die a slow, painful death or you can walk away and remain positive with each other (friends).


Also, can you expound on this:

>It was a stupid and horrible experience, not even enjoyable.


...because IMHO the sneaking around is wack-as-hell, but the strange???

  

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Pete
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10. "RE: Bruh, this relationship is done... y'all both cheating on each other"
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I think it was two moments of hurt pride and stupidity on both of our parts

  

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17. "^^type of dude that throw away a whole belt 'cause the buckle hit the ur..."
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18. "I actually laughed out loud...loudly"
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49. "Said here quite a few times that cheating is a hard line for me"
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Mon Sep-30-19 10:15 AM by flipnile

          

Much easier mentally to break up and move on to a new positive relationship, then try and salvage a relationship that's probably far too rotted already.

Not for me.

  

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3. "Hang in there nigga!!!!!"
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4. ""I think it's even affecting my physically""
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This is your mind and body telling you to fess up. The feeling won't go away.

Trust and honesty are the basis of a long lasting relationship. Tell her and see how the chips fall. Do the right thing and good luck.

  

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Pete
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8. "RE: "I think it's even affecting my physically""
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I worry it's just gonna ruin a relationship when it was really nothing, not gonna happen again. Why take away her happiness for a ridiculous moment a year ago?

  

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Vector
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11. "I feel you and it's easy for me to say it but"
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from my experience honesty really is the best policy.

From what you've written I think it will eat you up and that may affect your relationship anyhow.

  

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13. "RE: I feel you and it's easy for me to say it but"
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Gotta think on that, thanks

  

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33. "putting pain on her to soothe his own conscience aint nec the move"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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5. "Nigga go please tell her and report back "
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Seriously tho, if it’s fucking with your health you may need to dead the relationship or go see a ducking doctor and get some blood work done.

IMO y’all even.

You did some female shit tho.. usually it’s the woman who waits a year and then gets a nigga back.

You still cool with the friend of a friend? Cause if so.. that’s why you did that shit.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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6. "I don't think he waited a year..."
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he found out and immediately did his thing...and is still feeling guilty a year later...if I read it right.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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9. "RE: I don't think he waited a year..."
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Yeah, it was a year ago, but now for some reason I got this delay effect guilt weighing me down.

  

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21. "Awwwe nigga.. real talk. You really want to tell her"
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Don’t be that dude.

Take that shit to the grave like buddy said.

Fuck around and she gonna clap back with some “well, by the way”

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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29. "got it now..."
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was it mutual commitment or assumed?

  

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35. "RE: got it now..."
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Assumed. Stupid on my part, I know.

  

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47. "what’s the chances of her finding out? "
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if it were me...as the girlfriend, not sure I’d want to know. Things can go left or right depending on how you’ve treated the relationship. If it’s even defined now, is it?

by way of example, when my lover confessed his infidelity to me, my first reaction wasn’t to leave him. I stayed but, he didn’t appreciate it. he was too busy beating himself that he didn’t recognize my fight.

  

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53. "he didn’t appreciate you staying or did he want out?"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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103. "appreciate me..."
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I don’t have the energy to type out the details (and nigga YOU need details), but I’ll share it when I do

It’s a masterpiece lol.

  

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12. "it's clearly not a great relationship if y'all can't even be honest"
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Fri Sep-27-19 10:54 AM by Damali

          

relationships are a facade without honesty

tell her about, tell her why you did it, discuss the deeper meaning to the betrayal and decide if y'all can be real with each other

can y'all talk about being attracted to other people without fucking?

can y'all really be yourselves with each other?

can y'all make space for someone to fuck up, come clean, and be forgiven?

is it possible to overcome feelings of sexual ownership and still be in an honest relationship?

if y'all haven't even ever DISCUSSED the above in any fashion, you're not in a "great relationship"

that shit takes work and vulnerability. Maybe neither one of y'all are mature enough.

Just be single, then.

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14. "RE: it's clearly not a great relationship if y'all can't even be honest"
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That's a lot of food for thought, thanks

  

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104. "Best Grown Folk Response!"
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After years and years of romance and broken heartedness, I can attest that if you are not honest, this can go nowhere.

Don't think that you can get with a new person and repeat the same passive aggressive bullshit.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

  

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15. "fam just confess to it but blame it on her."
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‘ever since you fucked that other dude...i never felt fully secure or completely trusted you. it was a deep emotional wound that never healed. i thought i could get over it by getting under someone else but that only made me love you more and regret betraying you the way you easily betrayed me’.

women fall for stuff like that lol. pretty soon shes gonna feel guilty for making you tap another womans cervix.

always blame the woman for your fuckups. it works.

  

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25. "you're a piece of shit and this is why men are trash."
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28. "i blame you."
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40. "I'll take "What an Incel Would Say" for $500, Alex"
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41. "its your fault."
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42. "Keep telling yourself that. "
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73. "damn breh, that kind of shit works on some brainless jumpoff, but not ....."
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your actual partner. she'll still feel the sting and even if she initially swallows that guilt trip, she'll eventually get around to justifying her side and condemning yours.

i don't even like to do that kind of shit to fuck buddies, i'd rather just be up front. but of course a little convenient manipulation to ride out the string on one side or both is bound to happen there. but this is a lot more serious.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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108. "That's only acceptable if a woman is saying it to a man. A man"
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doesn't get to use that strategy. He should *not* try this.

  

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16. "breh forget that shit if you trying to be w/ her for real."
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34. "guilt is a powerful thing"
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have you think that telling her is for HER

...

its not

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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19. "Odds are that's just the one you know about "
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I'd call it even and leave it in the past

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22. "Right? Carl Thomas that shit"
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I don’t want to know...

She told him about he one he might’ve found out about

Don’t go back.. go forward.

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24. "*mario winans."
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27. "Him too"
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20. "that feeling aint gonna go away...."
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trust me. And a relationship built on a lie will die a slow death.

Fess up. It may blow up the relationship. But it also may be a chance for you both to reset with a fresh start.

It wont be easy. Might be the hardest process you ever have to go through. But if you really love her and want to be with her long term, its worth it.

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23. "alternate non-popular opinion"
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You are an evolved human having human experiences. This is where monogamy gets hairy. If cheating is a one time fuck...and not an ongoing side relationship where there are ongoing lies that hurt perhaps your kids, etc.... then....

I often tell my lady, if you feel the need to cheat (as in a one time thing) .... keep it safe and don't tell me. Cause when you tell me, then we are done. What I don't know, I don't know. Ignorant is bliss is real.

And as far as I know, neither of us have cheated. Non-issue. In fact .. maybe offering the freedom to go ahead wit it.... has kept her (as far as I know..wink) from doing it.

I say don't beat yourself up about it and move on. Now if you murdered someone and didn't speak up.... now that's fucked up.

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26. "how long ago was the cheating? "
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30. "Is this guilt or resentment? "
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Feels like you did this and didn’t get the satisfaction because she doesn’t know it happened

So you still have visuals of her with dude but she thinks you been faithful and you want to tel her you got it in

Nothing good will come from telling her you did this.

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31. "1. you sound stupid. 2. dont be stupid"
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delete every mention of this in your phone off your email and every other thing. and never whisper it aloud again.

you been watching too many movies. truth is overrated. you going to fuck around and tell the truth and lose your good thing

  

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46. "Please tell him again"
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Why blow up ya life cuz you feel funny and weird? If it made you feel messed up then endeavour to never do it again. Tell ya pastor, but dont tell her, it's just news made to hurt.

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63. "^^^^^^^^"
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32. "yall aint even married, this was a yr ago? man, drop it. "
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You already realize its was a mistake and havent dont anything like that since (right..right?), so leave it alone. If its effetcing you so much as you say, go see somebody and I bet after one session youll be fine

>Y'all, I done fucked up and now I'm feeling type stupid with
>the wrenched gut. What can I do short of confessing (cause I
>don't think that's gonna do any good)?
>
>Long story short, I found out after about 1.5 yrs with my girl
>that shortly after we started seeing each other, she fucked a
>friend of a friend, after I thought we were already connecting
>pretty well and I wasn't trying to be out there fucking
>around.
>
>She told me cause she felt guilty, but it was too much for my
>pride and I wound up going and and fucking somebody too. It
>was a stupid and horrible experience, not even enjoyable.
>
>Fast forward a year, and I got this guilt creeping up on me
>all the time, I think it's even affecting my physically. I
>would tell her, but why ruin a great relationship because of
>one stupid mistake? What happened meant nothing, was
>momentary, and will never happen again.
>
>Fuck!
>
>Any thoughts?

  

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36. ""shortly after we started seeing each other" sounds like you were single"
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your hurt pride made you go fuck

18 months later that moment doesnt matter unless a kid or a STD came from it

forgive yourself in silence and dont listen to anyone suggesting you confess

  

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37. "Confess"
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Tell her, it's mot a good thing if you have to hide the truth.

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38. "RE: Cheated, feeling guilty"
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Urge to confess is still all about your ego... be mindful of that

By confessing you are trying to put the owness on someone else to process your feelings and ability to be ok (or not) with yourself.

Doing it could solve the issue by eliminating it (end your relationship) while that might feel easier you will never have dealt with the internal "tit for tat" reaction that led you to do it in the first place.

the conditional way in which you apply your respect, trust or love is gonna sneak up on you again if you don't process now.

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43. "This post illustrates why most people suck at true intimacy"
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just terrified of actually being honest and real. y'all settle for some fake shit that looks good from the outside.

shit's sad.

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44. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATJhCIeaqo"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ATJhCIeaqo


>just terrified of actually being honest and real. y'all
>settle for some fake shit that looks good from the outside.
>
>shit's sad.
>
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50. "are you expecting me to click that link? lol"
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cuz yeah i don't do that on here.

you're free to actually use your own words, though.

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45. "illustrates how some people know how to stay together "
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instead of always yapping and running people off.

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48. "again "staying together" is some external facing fake shit"
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folks can "stay together" AND be vulnerable/honest. but that's too hard and too risky, right? you can do the mental gymnastics to justify lying all you want.

but cowards gonna coward, i guess.

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51. "When keeping it real goes wrong^^^"
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Y’all chatty patty asses talk too damn much.

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55. "i said what i said, coward."
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58. "This coward is a loving Husband and Father "
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77. "^^^^^^^^"
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______________________________________

Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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81. "and? this post has nothing to do with whether folks are "loving""
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nice goalpost move tho

lol

and you want your cookie now, or later?

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91. "I think it does have something to do with loving your SO"
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Love them enough to stfu

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92. "or love them enough to be honest and vulnerable"
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88. "everybody walks their own path"
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somethings are not experienced universally and nothing is absolute.. personally I'm all in and blessed.. and lord knows I've been tested too.

  

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93. "true and some people's path is "fake and dishonest" *shrug*"
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98. "some people never even get the opportunity"
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not to mention the subjectivity of what they might define it as for themselves right?... a lot of folks don't even know.

  

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100. "that's true. "
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52. "is telling her going to free you from the guilt you're feeling?"
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are you telling her for her purposes or yours?

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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54. "Affecting you physically huh? Did she burn you?"
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56. "I've been with my wife for almost 20 years. "
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Though I don't always feel like it all of the times today I have no doubt there is no one else in the world I would want to be with and feel lucky to have her. If you asked me a year ago the answer might have been differnt.

I also grew up in a two parent household that has been married 40+ years and gone through ups and downs but today my mother is happy even though my father is in a home suffering from dementia.

My cousin's wife who has been married to my cousin for 30 years gave me the best advice when she told me that the secret to marriage is realizing that marriage isn't a straight line but a circle. A circle that goes up and down and she has fallen in and out of love with my cousin many times over the decades.


I give all that background to say, be careful who you get advice from. You got folks lecturing on what a good relationship and you have no idea what there longest healthy relationship. I am going to be bold and claim more authority than most folks because I've been around good models of relationships and plenty of bad models of relationships and I recognize communications is a big part of a good relationship, having a mate who is a best friend is a big part of a healthy relationship and havin the same goals for your family are key among other things.

However, nowhere in all the good advice and good models have I seen total and complete honesty is the key to a happy relationship. Ask anyone who has been in a 30+ year good relationship. If your wife has gained a few pounds and she asks you how she looks, you say she looks amazing every time. That's oversimplified but yeah you get it. You be honest about the things that matter and learn to keep some things to yourself.

Now because you are physically ill I think maybe this matters but I am not convinced that it was the act of cheating that is your underlying problem. It may be more of a symptom. That's why I say, go talk to an expert. Therapy can be a good thing. Good luck.


As I think about this post i might be doing too much because I don't have much of a sense of how serious your relationship is. My advice is for super serious path to marriage relationships. If you are in an early relationship or something not that serious I would avoid needless drama like the plague.




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59. "alladis"
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60. "nice"
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61. "She cheated. He cheated."
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Talking to a therapist is not going to help their relationship.

  

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62. "Ninja you don't think some of them 30+ year relationships I mentioned..."
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...dealt with cheating? LOL.



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64. "I guess we all have a different idea of what works in"
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a relationship and how to make it work if we want to.

I can't imagine being in a long term relationship if we've both cheated.

  

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67. "you married or single "
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Here is the thing

If you are with someone for more than 10 years you prolly have a night or a moment where someone would define it as cheating.

Hopefully it happens before you get married.

A lot of times it happens after.. and they stay together because people just aren’t perfect.

This idea where people bounce and expect 100% loyalty is fantasy shit.

I’ve known far too many people who have left good relationships over one night or one incident and they have never been a able to find that type of love again.

But everyone is different and some people would rather be alone and perfect than together and flawed.

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69. "I like that"
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>But everyone is different and some people would rather be
>alone and perfect than together and flawed.
>

I'm planning on getting married next year.

If I cheated I would tell her. I'd prefer to be alone and honest.

  

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70. "You say that now. Throw in a house, few cars and some kids "
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and 15 years invested.

You may have every intention of saying something until you realize what you could lose.

I mean. Plenty of people confess.. but plenty dont.

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71. "RE: You say that now. Throw in a house, few cars and some kids "
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>and 15 years invested.
>
>You may have every intention of saying something until you
>realize what you could lose.
>
>I mean. Plenty of people confess.. but plenty dont.

Fair enough.

I get why folks don't and I don't judge them at all.

I recommended to the OP earlier to be honest because I don't think they're down that road yet and the cheating is cutting him up and not a good way forward. But if he works on that and makes a success of his relationship I'll be happy for them both.

  

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82. "u really out here equating a white lie about weight with cheating/betray..."
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that's what you wrote all that for? LOL

yeah that's a gross false equivalency if I've ever heard one

y'all sure do spend alot of keystrokes to defend not being honest about betraying your relationship, but go off, King

d

p.s. the length of a relationship is NOT a direct measure of its success/health. i know plenty of couples who stay together by default but they aren't happy

  

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84. "."
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95. "LoL"
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_____________________
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94. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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exactly


not shocked at some of the responses in here, but everything you said is GOSPEL

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102. "people (cis hetero men mostly) need to learn how to self-soothe more"
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honestly, unless you have warm bodies throwing themselves at you, if you love the person you're with, just release yourself. the urge is gone. you're good. move on.

i always lean on howard stern's comments on sex/sex-drive-- paraphrasing-- he doesn't understand why men are always cheating or looking for kinky stuff. he's so happy a woman/his wife will let him sleep with her in the "regular" way that when she's not up to it, he just fires up safari and takes care of it. done. over. move it along.

people are too romantic about sex sometimes. like bin said above, they watch too many movies. everybody needs to just calm down.

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57. "posts like this make me realize somethn wrong with me"
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cuz i've cheated and didn't flinch an eyelid


maybe I didn't care enough about the particular gf at the time

  

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65. "It is"
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no empathy.

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68. "Yup. Wonder if dude is married or single. "
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Kota the friend has a line...


“If you about to do something stupid just think about how she feel”

Until you care about someone as much as yourself you will do dirt and not feel a thing. Those also be the same dudes who get cheated on once and never recover.

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ConcreteCharlie
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72. "or you're just on that "sober thoughts" shit"
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so much dirt has been done that it all just feels normal. having lived in more than one of what i'd consider hyper-sexualized cultures, i've definitely seen that, too. whether it was a party school (uscb, boulder), europe (amsterdam), south american (medellin, rio), i definitely saw people with a sort of acceptance toward cheating and on both ends. one chick summed it up when she was asked "what would you do if you came home and found your boyfriend fucking another woman?" She said, calm AF, "I'd make fun of his stupid ass because you don't let yourself get caught!"

don't get me wrong, i saw the total hypocrites, too. one time i put it on this bad lil blonde mami that i took for a trip up to the coast with me. i just got done knocking the lining out of it and her man calls. she gets all intense with him like he's the one cheating while she's gone. she's like "because he is mine and only mine. i am his and only his!" i just gave her kind of a long sideeye and even she realized how ridiculous that was in context and she started laughing like crazy.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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74. "I used to be a dog"
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Real bad dog... bad dog.

Part of it was growing up with a bunch of female friends who were also doing their thing so there was a “game” to it.

Other part was simply not caring to lose the person so it was whatever. It wasn’t until I felt like I had something to lose that I was like “lemme chill”

But then.. in VA these women were ruthless. They approached you, made the moves and had dudes on the side

I guess it comes down to finding the right person. Ause I damn sure treated some women better than they wanted to be treated.

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75. "RE: or you're just on that "sober thoughts" shit"
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i am his and only his!" i just gave her
>kind of a long sideeye and even she realized how ridiculous
>that was in context and she started laughing like crazy.

https://i.imgur.com/d7KZNKD.png
that's how i picture you looking at her lmao

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101. "something like that, a little less leaning and squinting"
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i was in the doorway and she was on the bed so it was more standing back and just staring wideyed with a quarter-smile like "you fuckin' kiddin' me, right?"

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76. "Add on top of that Kota line how your KIDS feel. "
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Wanting to look them in the eye and remain the superhero that you are to them....


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78. "Bruh. Kids changed everything for me"
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No way my kids will ever look at me on some “why Dad why?”

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Amritsar
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109. "can't relate... no kids life"
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we dont want em lol

  

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113. "This makes sense"
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Not judging but a good amount of people I know who don’t want kids have a hard time seeing past themselves.

Empathy and shit.

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105. "these were relationships in my early 20s"
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college and grad school type stuff

I'm mid 30s now and engaged. Like to think i've grown out of that

  

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107. "Hope so"
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106. "thanks, doc"
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110. "Welcome, patient"
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66. "make peace with it and move forward"
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i dunno enough to form a concrete opinion but based on what you've said you think she is faithful now, you wanna be with her and she wants to be with you, right?

ok, then i don't think telling her is the move, especially now that a ton of time has passed and she will not find out otherwise. don't hurt her, don't put things in jeopardy. live with your mistake and move forward. talk to a professional about it if necessary.

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79. "I agree w BG re: go to therapy about it"
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... and let your convo(s) w the therapist decide for you

What I am getting from you so far is that the relationship has been overly smooth besides two incidents: the one where she cheated on you and the one where you cheated on her. Other than that, you are on a trajectory to marriage. It's not possible to predict how she would handle the news, especially since it's been a year

On one hand, this would be an amazing hurdle to overcome as a couple. If you were to tell the truth and, ideally, she were to forgive you, and you would be set free of your guilt and still get to keep your prize

On another hand ... it's fucking hard out here man. And if she leaves and doesn't come back, you're back out in the wild. I married my college sweetheart and divorced 3 years ago, and I can tell you that the wild fucking sucks Pete. So I'm a big proponent of this: if there's something that can be overlooked for the greater good of the longevity of the relationship, whether it's you overlooking your own fault or her overlooking it ... do that thing

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80. "lol @ everybody having a dog in this"
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good luck Pete.. the rest of you.. lol nevermind.

  

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83. "he shared it on a public forum and asked for opinions."
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20 years later and there's still always an above it all troll on the scene, so distressingly not concerned with it that they have to post about how everyone else is so concerned. Ole Myspace ass yatch...

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85. "always sauntering in mad late too.. "
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87. "i been busy"
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86. "lol.. thanks for feeding me."
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sorry I'm just laughing at how mean folks got.. lol I've done my time and I know what's up.

  

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89. "Why be that guy tho? "
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90. "lol... seems like maybe you know "
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and might be better at it.

  

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96. "LoL shutup "
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rude!

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99. ""Are you talking to me?!" ~ Donald Bickle"
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97. "also: you might want to get tested, whether condoms were used or not"
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your partner's physical health should be your top priority

but emotional health, if you believe telling her would help your relationship, then you should

did her telling you help?

seems not.

I don't think telling her would be helpfu, just shifts the emotional responsibility. If you plan to stay together, you might want to her eventually

but if you don't plan on staying together, say nothing. It'd just be selfish and hurtful.

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111. "Wait you felt away because she had sex while you "
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Were only dating? Not on some exclusive shit?

She didn't owe you anything at that point, you guys were only dating. Or were you more hurt that it was a friend of a friend?




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112. "Might wanna go to the doctor, could be something waaaay"
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bigger than cheating on ya little girlfriend.


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114. "Dr. Ruth weighs in."
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https://www.insider.com/dr-ruth-advice-dont-tell-your-partner-you-cheated-2019-10


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