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legsdiamond
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"I don’t know how daytraders do it"


          

I’m on this M1 and this shit got me heated. Watching that shit 5 times a day. Up, down, up down..

I have to put this app in a folder.

I know this shit is like Method Man torture. See your asshole closed and keep feeding it and feeding it

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Daytraders do it this way: LOSING
Sep 23rd 2019
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^
Jun 15th 2023
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I was going to reply but dude already said what needed to be said
Jun 15th 2023
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If you are doing stocks then no.
Sep 23rd 2019
2
I’m buying and holding long term
Sep 23rd 2019
3
Like Bopper said Options Futures and Forex are best for day trades
Sep 23rd 2019
4
I could never day trade.
Sep 23rd 2019
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      Yeah man if that's you're strategy set it and forget it
Sep 23rd 2019
7
Exactly
Sep 23rd 2019
6
i started learning forex and HFX right before covid hit
Jun 15th 2023
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      lol no it's not
Jun 15th 2023
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           thanks for your deep insight brother.
Jun 15th 2023
29
How do you like M1 so far?
Sep 23rd 2019
8
Shit is awesome
Sep 24th 2019
12
Heres how they do it
Sep 23rd 2019
9
Fam. This looks like a scam site
Sep 24th 2019
18
r/wallstreetbets/
Sep 24th 2019
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My favorite book
Sep 24th 2019
11
      I've been reading it for the past...3 years?
Sep 24th 2019
13
           RE: I've been reading it for the past...3 years?
Sep 24th 2019
14
                1. #facts 2. scared money don't make money.
Sep 24th 2019
15
                     Exactly
Sep 24th 2019
16
                     I mean... the content has been lagging lately lol
Sep 24th 2019
17
has anyone had any recent success with this? anybody use Robinhood?
Jun 15th 2023
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I bought Tesla at $95 and cashed out some when it hit $275
Jun 15th 2023
20
so you buy stock, but not necessarily a full blown day trader?
Jun 15th 2023
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      hell nah.. I have a full time job. No way could I day trade
Jun 15th 2023
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Daily retail loss of $358,000 on 0DTE options since 5/16/22
Jun 15th 2023
25
I sold JOBY as soon as I made any profit…
Jun 15th 2023
31
unless you were doing calculus in 5th grade
Jun 15th 2023
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Actually it's quite easy, allegedly NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE
Jun 15th 2023
30
Have you ever done it actively?
Jun 16th 2023
32
      Yes, stocks and crypto.
Jun 16th 2023
33
           What is that crypto portfolio worth now? Honestly asking
Jun 16th 2023
34

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1. "Daytraders do it this way: LOSING"
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A bunch of gambling addicts who lose their shirts and worship AND hate the 5% of daytraders than can eek out a living.

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23. "^"
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27. "I was going to reply but dude already said what needed to be said"
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years ago

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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hip bopper
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2. "If you are doing stocks then no."
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That’s more of a buy and hold strategy, and hopefully you chose a stock that pays a dividend.

Binary options and forex are the only viable day trading options. Futures are good too, but it’s best to have an account manager for that.

  

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3. "I’m buying and holding long term"
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But in the past when I had a 401K i rarely looked at it. I would see gains most years and losses some years or breaking even..

But with M1 I can see that shit in real time.

I just have to stop looking and keep feeding it.

I don’t know enough to buy individual stocks and buy and sell them quick fast.

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Atillah Moor
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4. "Like Bopper said Options Futures and Forex are best for day trades"
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Swing trading traditional equities seems like a better route. Options is where it's at though imo

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5. "I could never day trade. "
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I’m a buy and hold type of guy.

I’ve just been watching my holds daily and it’s stressful.

Need to set it and forget it.

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Atillah Moor
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7. "Yeah man if that's you're strategy set it and forget it"
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6. "Exactly "
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>But in the past when I had a 401K i rarely looked at it. I
>would see gains most years and losses some years or breaking
>even..
>
>But with M1 I can see that shit in real time.
>
>I just have to stop looking and keep feeding it.
>
>I don’t know enough to buy individual stocks and buy and
>sell them quick fast.
>

Which is why stocks that pay dividends are the best option for long term growth as well as establishing a supplemental income.

Have you though about rolling over your 401K into an IRA and move about 10-20% of the cash into gold or silver?

If you switch over to forex, options, or future and let a firm manage it, then it will relieve a lot of the anxiety that comes along with trading.

  

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24. "i started learning forex and HFX right before covid hit"
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IMO there is nothing like it. i havent been making alot of money because i work full time and i dont really have the energy to do much of anythg when i get off work...but ive actually learned this shit pretty good over the last couple of years. this will probably be my last job.

theres alot to it tho alot of ppl give up on it and i completely understand why...i just see the big picture. this is white boy/wall street type of action/money...its not for everybody

  

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28. "lol no it's not"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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29. "thanks for your deep insight brother."
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8. "How do you like M1 so far?"
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I tried it last year but I turned off the auto re-investing feature and just created my own pie. I've since pulled out my cash (needed the liquid funds). I thought it was pretty cool overall and plan to throw some money at it when I'm able to again.

  

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12. "Shit is awesome"
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It makes me want to learn more about investing and buying stocks.

I’m using the expert pies right now.

I rolled a 401K into a roth and I also started another one with a hundred and throw $10 at it every 2 weeks. I want to make sure I don’t liquidate or dip into it so I didn’t put much in it to start.

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9. "Heres how they do it"
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https://learnplanprofit.net/welcomepage

Use this and research better. Its still too much work so I feel you.

  

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18. "Fam. This looks like a scam site"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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10. "r/wallstreetbets/"
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before you get your dick wet consider reading:

The Intelligent Investor
https://www.amazon.com/The-Intelligent-Investor-Rev-Ed/dp/B00V7328GS/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3PQTBQG89RF13&keywords=securities+analysis&qid=1569336724&s=books&sprefix=securities+ana%2Cprime-instant-video%2C127&sr=1-6

it's dry as fuck, old, boring. But, its the foundation Buffet built his empire on.

For the love of god, stay away from options.

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11. "My favorite book"
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>before you get your dick wet consider reading:
>
>The Intelligent Investor
>https://www.amazon.com/The-Intelligent-Investor-Rev-Ed/dp/B00V7328GS/ref=sr_1_6?crid=3PQTBQG89RF13&keywords=securities+analysis&qid=1569336724&s=books&sprefix=securities+ana%2Cprime-instant-video%2C127&sr=1-6
>
>it's dry as fuck, old, boring. But, its the foundation Buffet
>built his empire on.
>
>For the love of god, stay away from options.

Options are the way to go.

  

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13. "I've been reading it for the past...3 years?"
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I actually find it to be super interesting but I get into modes where I'm deep in it, then some life shit happens (sick kids, work really picks up, etc) and then I put it down and then its hard to get back into that learning state again


I say stay away from options because its a dangerous game. While it is possible to really make some money and its where the money is made, its a lot like driving a sports car without doors, windshield and seatbelts. Oh, you will be thrilled, hear the engine and feel the wind, but if you crash...you stand to lose everything.

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14. "RE: I've been reading it for the past...3 years?"
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>I actually find it to be super interesting but I get into
>modes where I'm deep in it, then some life shit happens (sick
>kids, work really picks up, etc) and then I put it down and
>then its hard to get back into that learning state again
>

It’s has been and will always be a constant reference point for me. You will always stay reading that book.


>I say stay away from options because its a dangerous game.
>While it is possible to really make some money and its where
>the money is made, its a lot like driving a sports car
>without doors, windshield and seatbelts. Oh, you will be
>thrilled, hear the engine and feel the wind, but if you
>crash...you stand to lose everything.

Options are the way that the wealthy get their money. You do have to put constant time and effort into learning how to effectively trade them. If you ever do then your wins will far outweigh your losses.

  

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15. "1. #facts 2. scared money don't make money. "
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>Options are the way that the wealthy get their money. You do
>have to put constant time and effort into learning how to
>effectively trade them. If you ever do then your wins will
>far outweigh your losses.


oh, I agree all the way. The problem is most people don't put in the time to read through those 10-k and 10-Q statements and will YOLO their 401k off a gut feeling or watercolor chatter or "because you know, Netflix content is getting stale, I should have a short position".

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16. "Exactly"
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>oh, I agree all the way. The problem is most people don't put
>in the time to read through those 10-k and 10-Q statements and
>will YOLO their 401k off a gut feeling or watercolor chatter
>or "because you know, Netflix content is getting stale, I
>should have a short position".
>

Which is why people shouldn’t do any investing if they haven’t done any reading or research of their own.

  

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17. "I mean... the content has been lagging lately lol"
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19. "has anyone had any recent success with this? anybody use Robinhood?"
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20. "I bought Tesla at $95 and cashed out some when it hit $275"
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but most of my individual stock purchases did not do well. Granted its when I was chasing shit late during the pandemic.

but my Berkshire funds have been popping.

Best bet is to buy some ETF’s and let it ride.

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21. "so you buy stock, but not necessarily a full blown day trader? "
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22. "hell nah.. I have a full time job. No way could I day trade"
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and no stones or capital for that type of stress



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25. "Daily retail loss of $358,000 on 0DTE options since 5/16/22"
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"Between February 2021 and February 2023, retail investors lost $184,000 on the average day; since the introduction of a daily expiration calendar in May of 2022, this number has grown to average losses of $358,000 per day."

Research data from Jan '21 to Feb '23 says retail traders lost $70mm on same-day options.

Retail traders lost $4 billion on options trading from Nov' 19 to Jun '21.

https://www.wealthmanagement.com/equities/retail-investors-are-love-same-day-options

  

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31. "I sold JOBY as soon as I made any profit…"
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and that was like a little over $5.00, and now it’s damn near $8 a few weeks later. It’s some flying car company or some shit.

I was so conditioned to losing after the last few years that I jumped the gun, smh.

  

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26. "unless you were doing calculus in 5th grade"
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you will lose money. almost all the people who make money doing this sort of thing were born very good at math and were funneled through elite institutions. for the rest of us, it's gambling

  

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30. "Actually it's quite easy, allegedly NOT FINANCIAL ADVICE"
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This is for entertainment purposes and not financial advice just an opinion.

It's really easy actually. Let's say ampe trades sideways between 50 and 60 cents. Someone buys 10K of stock at 50 and trades at 55 then exits. It drops to 50 and they buy in with those profits, it rises to 56 sold at that point before dipping back to 50. Rinse and repeat.

None of that is financial advice just an opinion.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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32. "Have you ever done it actively?"
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33. "Yes, stocks and crypto."
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Built a 4K portfolio of memecoins built off 20 cent positions.

Stock side was easier because everything as discounted. Imagine a stock soaring from 50 cents to $1. It's a large profit if you invest right.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

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34. "What is that crypto portfolio worth now? Honestly asking "
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