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lightworks
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"Ya boy Kevin Hart is a fucking idiot. "
Wed Sep-04-19 12:48 PM by lightworks

          

https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1169232154980753408?s=21

https://twitter.com/beebabs/status/1169245289946976261?s=21

  

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SMH...we can't have nothing
Sep 04th 2019
1
I get how barbershop convos work
Sep 04th 2019
2
      walk into a barbershop and call someone a fucking idiot then.
Sep 04th 2019
18
           ^ ^ ^Came in here makin sense!
Sep 04th 2019
57
i really liked that moment actually. that's the barbershop in a nutshell
Sep 04th 2019
3
and when it's Kevin, he's gonna be wrong more than sometimes.
Sep 04th 2019
4
He's gaslighting the kid, though.
Sep 04th 2019
6
      where?
Sep 04th 2019
10
      LNX says "I was growing up to hate this [being gay]"
Sep 04th 2019
15
           that's why LNX hit him with the "cmon now," lol
Sep 04th 2019
21
           here's my interpretation
Sep 04th 2019
22
           +, the same context that made LNX hate being gay...shaped Kev's
Sep 04th 2019
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           I absolutely believe that'w what KH was going for. Problem is
Sep 04th 2019
26
           As I said when he withdrew from hosting the Oscars...
Sep 04th 2019
29
                Dude gonna have to wear a dress
Sep 04th 2019
36
           That’s a horrible interpretation.
Sep 04th 2019
27
                great.
Sep 04th 2019
32
           I hope that after Kev says "WHY?!"
Sep 04th 2019
44
                that wouldve been damn funny. and in line w/ the barbershop
Sep 04th 2019
51
                Ether lol
Sep 04th 2019
52
      ^^^^^^^^
Sep 04th 2019
13
I mean, maybe he should know better...
Sep 04th 2019
5
They want Kev to tuck his balls and go home
Sep 04th 2019
16
      I dunno about that.
Sep 04th 2019
34
           I was prepared for Kev to really step in it
Sep 04th 2019
35
is the outrage because he made bad jokes a while ago?
Sep 04th 2019
7
that's the hot sauce
Sep 04th 2019
9
      okay, so he's disingenuous at worst. that's the outrage?
Sep 04th 2019
12
      That's the part.
Sep 04th 2019
17
He isn't having the best year
Sep 04th 2019
8
Nothing wrong here. He's just being simple. NasX is being complex
Sep 04th 2019
11
I see it similarly.
Sep 04th 2019
19
      He hit him with a “really my nigga?”
Sep 04th 2019
24
           yup i saw it as a productive conversation in that sense
Sep 04th 2019
39
                Right
Sep 04th 2019
46
What’s the problem?
Sep 04th 2019
14
Kevin Hart + Gay = BAD.
Sep 04th 2019
20
Jokers need a reason to get a dopamine rush
Sep 04th 2019
31
They don't know, Bruh!
Sep 04th 2019
55
first that damning post about Nipsey--on his birthday.
Sep 04th 2019
25
I thought he made a post while recovering
Sep 04th 2019
28
I wish him a speedy recover on his car accident.
Sep 04th 2019
33
post title is uncalled for
Sep 04th 2019
42
      Blame HBO for her post title, not her!
Sep 04th 2019
43
      Lmao my post title ain’t impacting that man nor his recovery.
Sep 04th 2019
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^ ^ ^ ^Sees it!
Sep 04th 2019
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It's like yall don't know any black men.
Sep 04th 2019
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They don’t know any they like... lol
Sep 04th 2019
37
basically. n/m
Sep 04th 2019
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the thing where you project other people being mad at a black man
Sep 04th 2019
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      RE: the thing where you project other people being mad at a black man
Sep 04th 2019
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           I know, there's no words for you to say.
Sep 04th 2019
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looks like people having a conversation
Sep 04th 2019
38
if only we could do that for Medicare 4 All
Sep 04th 2019
49
Basically.
Sep 04th 2019
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I took the Kev's responses as overzealous but not
Sep 04th 2019
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Great observation
Sep 04th 2019
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Wayment. If the environment was so different then versus now why would
Sep 04th 2019
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      This is a dumb ass question
Sep 04th 2019
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      lol
Sep 04th 2019
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           Unless I’m reading it wrong she just doesn’t get it.
Sep 04th 2019
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                Oh please enlighten me as to what I don’t get.
Sep 04th 2019
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                     I don’t think surprised is the right word to describe Kevin’s reacti...
Sep 05th 2019
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      different environment doesn't mean there's not work to be
Sep 04th 2019
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Did you watch the whole show?
Sep 04th 2019
64
outrage first. ask questions later
Sep 05th 2019
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there's literally no extra context in the show
Sep 05th 2019
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      then there's nothing to see, really
Sep 05th 2019
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Literally nothing to be outraged about in that show.
Sep 05th 2019
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Why'd you post the 2nd link?
Sep 05th 2019
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Your tone toward me is trash but to answer your question I didn’t have
Sep 05th 2019
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My tone is mad friendly!
Sep 05th 2019
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      ...in his defense...and to your point...alot of this is HBO's marketing
Sep 05th 2019
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           Oh ok, I appreciate the context.
Sep 05th 2019
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           they stay sippin’ on that show
Sep 05th 2019
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i'm glad she did. its an example of how ridiculous twitter has become
Sep 05th 2019
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I think Kevin Hart was right *shrug*
Sep 05th 2019
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you, and your ilk, are being idiots about this.
Sep 05th 2019
71
Straight like dat!
Sep 05th 2019
74
People will do anything for clicks
Sep 05th 2019
75
funny this post is happening while Kev is in the hospital
Sep 05th 2019
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and not for nothing, i saw SO many loud and wrong people...
Sep 05th 2019
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      yeah, I definitely do NOT rock with that shit.
Sep 05th 2019
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      while i shouldn't be surprised by shit like this
Sep 05th 2019
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Discussing the accident
Sep 05th 2019
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I had thought he was drunk driving & friend took the fall
Sep 05th 2019
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      or his team swooped in and got him
Sep 05th 2019
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           If that's what happened they'll be found out.
Sep 06th 2019
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           No not like that. Like the Scene from that Chris Rock Movie. 5 Mics.
Sep 06th 2019
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           LAPD treats celebs different
Sep 06th 2019
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           RE: or his team swooped in and got him
Sep 06th 2019
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1. "SMH...we can't have nothing"
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good luck pc policing barbershop conversations

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2. "I get how barbershop convos work "
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But once you put them on TV on a global platform you would be stupid to think people aren’t gonna have opinions about what you say...

  

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18. "walk into a barbershop and call someone a fucking idiot then."
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Wed Sep-04-19 01:42 PM by bentagain

  

          

they're facilitating a conversation about the perception of being gay in the black community

I will watch the whole thing to get the context and full conversation at some point

...but you jumping all the way out the window...off of Kev asking why...?

that's doing a lot.

someone had said...Lil' Nas X being gay was not a surprise

isn't it a natural question...to ask a relatively young man...successful musician...black man...why at the height of his career he felt compelled to come out

?

I'm assuming this leads into a conversation...but you want to cut film at the sight of Kevin Hart

that's progress?

If you know how barbershop convos go...then you know you'll get all kinds of different perspectives on any topic offered

If you're going to get that offended...to where you call someone a fucking idiot...yeah, like I said, good luck with that.

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57. "^ ^ ^Came in here makin sense!"
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3. "i really liked that moment actually. that's the barbershop in a nutshell"
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sometimes niggas gonna be slam wrong

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4. "and when it's Kevin, he's gonna be wrong more than sometimes."
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especially when it comes to anything about LGBTQ issues.

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6. "He's gaslighting the kid, though."
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Can't ride for that.

  

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10. "where?"
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"he said he was gay, so what?"

sounds progressive to me

"why were you growing up hating it?"

sounds like an attempt to provoke conversation in a talking forum

Dave Chappelle was right about cancel culture being ridiculous, but my opinion remains he spiraled into offensive territory as a middle finger to cancel culture

  

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15. "LNX says "I was growing up to hate this [being gay]""
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Then KH says: "hate what?". Then after LNX explicitly says homosexuality, KH says "why?" That "why?" is an implicit refutation of LNX talking about growing up to hate homosexuality, and that being a prevalent part of culture and how most people are raised. It's KH basically calling LNX a liar, which is the gaslighting part.

  

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21. "that's why LNX hit him with the "cmon now," lol"
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It was such a disingenuous response that Kevin was giving.

btw, imagine being a 20-year-old gay rapper, sitting in a room with THE Kevin Hart, and giving him such a casual and dismissive "cmon now"-- major props to LNX, because if I was in a room with, say, Chris Rock or some other guy who's an icon to people my age, and Chris Rock started questioning in a room full of people what I knew was real, I'd fold like a goddamn card table and give him a "I dunno, maybe you're right."

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22. "here's my interpretation"
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Kevin Hart was under heat in the past year for gay jokes

his PR/publicist probably saw a good opportunity to have him sit with a gay kid and redeem himself as an understanding supporter

so he played dumb and went with a heavy handed "gay is okay" approach to try erasing what hurt people before

that's not the same as gaslighting

  

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23. "+, the same context that made LNX hate being gay...shaped Kev's"
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perspective on not wanting his son to be gay.

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26. "I absolutely believe that'w what KH was going for. Problem is "
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that's most likely not what he really thinks or feels, which is why he fumbled the execution of it. What he was probably trying for was something more like "damn, I'm sorry that that message (anti-gayness/homophobia) was all around you and caused you to feel the way you did. But that message is bs and there's nothing actually wrong with you or who you love". etc. Kevin couldn't pull that off, though. His inner defensiveness kicked in and he wound up using the wrong tone and word choice. It would have been better if he just hadn't said anything (which was probably impossible - everyone there knew the point was to get him and LNX into a direct dialogue over this issue.)

  

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29. "As I said when he withdrew from hosting the Oscars..."
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"He's smart to step away. Even if he apologized again, the same folks are still gonna be mad. The only way to win is to not play."

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36. "Dude gonna have to wear a dress "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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27. "That’s a horrible interpretation."
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32. "great."
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44. "I hope that after Kev says "WHY?!""
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LNX says "Because someone might break a fucking dollhouse over my head"

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51. "that wouldve been damn funny. and in line w/ the barbershop"
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52. "Ether lol"
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>LNX says "Because someone might break a fucking dollhouse
>over my head"

  

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13. "^^^^^^^^"
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Wed Sep-04-19 01:32 PM by lightworks

          

The same man that joked he would smash a dollhouse over young his black son’s head is acting shocked SHOCKED a black male young man would be hesistant to come out.

What an idiot.

  

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5. "I mean, maybe he should know better..."
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But I don't really think he did anything wrong. I just watched this clip and not the full episode though. Lil Nas X gave a great answer.

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16. "They want Kev to tuck his balls and go home"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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34. "I dunno about that. "
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35. "I was prepared for Kev to really step in it"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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7. "is the outrage because he made bad jokes a while ago?"
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9. "that's the hot sauce"
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he's out here being brand new as to why Lil Nas X coming out as gay is a big deal.

that's the outrage.

  

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12. "okay, so he's disingenuous at worst. that's the outrage?"
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17. "That's the part."
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He's full of shit and being totally disingenuous. Classic ass gaslighting.

  

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8. "He isn't having the best year"
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11. "Nothing wrong here. He's just being simple. NasX is being complex"
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Him and NasX are just approaching this from two different angles.

Kevin is basically saying it doesn't matter that he is gay. That shouldn't change how we feel about him, positively or negatively. Which should be true (right?).

NasX is saying it's bigger than that. His announcement was to help change societal perceptions

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19. "I see it similarly."
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I think there's an argument that Kevin Hart, who got roasted for making jokes about his own personal gay panic, and using homophobic words on social media is being disingenuous when he says "why should people care that he's gay"

when he likely knows the answer why.

Lil Nas X tells us why.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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24. "He hit him with a “really my nigga?”"
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I think Kevin is trying to be progressive by acting like it shouldn’t be a big deal anymore.

and here is the thing, in Kevin’s world NOW it’s not a big deal. He’s in LA. Prolly spends a lot of time around them and doesn’t see the big deal now but lil dude let him know why.

I honestly saw a really good promo for a good episode that I’m excited to watch. I never heard Lil Nas speak or chop it up and dude sounds grounded as hell for his age.

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39. "yup i saw it as a productive conversation in that sense"
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Lil Nas said don't act brand new, and you know it's not that simple

he broke it down well

  

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46. "Right"
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I do need to see the whole convo though.

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14. "What’s the problem? "
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20. "Kevin Hart + Gay = BAD."
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31. "Jokers need a reason to get a dopamine rush"
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.
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

  

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55. "They don't know, Bruh!"
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Dumbazz psuedo-progressives just lookin for something to get mad at.






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25. "first that damning post about Nipsey--on his birthday."
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now this, while Hart is currently lying in a hospital bed, after a catastrophic car accident on Mulholland Drive this weekend.

you think you're slick.

  

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28. "I thought he made a post while recovering"
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she stay on some grimy shit.

Type broad to want to have a “serious talk about our relationship” when you wake up from surgery after being robbed and beat to a pulp.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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33. "I wish him a speedy recover on his car accident."
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But that clip was released yesterday after the car accident was announced, so don’t get on me for having an opinion about something that was released after he got into the accident.

Blame HBO, don’t blame me.

  

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42. "post title is uncalled for"
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he's in the hospital right now. it's kinda weird that you felt like that post title is appropriate.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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43. "Blame HBO for her post title, not her!"
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>he's in the hospital right now. it's kinda weird that you
>felt like that post title is appropriate.

  

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45. "Lmao my post title ain’t impacting that man nor his recovery."
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Not are the millions of tweets right now calling him homophobic.

He will be alright.

Y’all get precious over the weirdest things on here.

  

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54. "^ ^ ^ ^Sees it!"
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

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30. "It's like yall don't know any black men. "
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Lil Nas X is in his element and can handle himself.

Proud of that lil dude. Yall though. SMH.

What's funny is that yall will be hating him soon enough...give it time.




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37. "They don’t know any they like... lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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40. "basically. n/m"
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48. "the thing where you project other people being mad at a black man"
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because you have to imagine it just to avoid whatever the subject is.

it says a lot about you.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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50. "RE: the thing where you project other people being mad at a black man"
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https://media.giphy.com/media/lj935f7J3guGc/giphy.gif


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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53. "I know, there's no words for you to say."
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you got nothing

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38. "looks like people having a conversation"
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and everyone's fine

until someone on twitter tries to make it into a thing

very 2019

  

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49. "if only we could do that for Medicare 4 All"
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>until someone on twitter tries to make it into a thing

  

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58. "Basically."
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41. "I took the Kev's responses as overzealous but not"
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disingenuous. Kev's a 40 something talking with a 20 year old. maybe he's thinking that a 20yr old in 2019 may not feel the same pressures that a lot of us old heads grew up with. naïve for sure, but the environments is different today than when Kev was making jokes about it.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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47. "Great observation"
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I always found it funny when Nas X said it was obvious he was gay because he put it in a song...

then I heard the lyrics and literally had no clue how anyone would decipher it based on his lyrics.

all in all.. no one gave a shit and I think that’s kind of what Kevin was trying to play up.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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56. "Wayment. If the environment was so different then versus now why would"
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there have been a controversy in 2018 about jokes from 2010?

Seems to me the real answer is the environment hasn’t, despite Pose being a popular show on TV now, changed and therefore if Kevin was actually asking that because he thought the environment truly changed then he really didn’t learn a damn thing from the firestorm last year.

  

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59. "This is a dumb ass question "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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61. "lol"
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Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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62. "Unless I’m reading it wrong she just doesn’t get it. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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63. "Oh please enlighten me as to what I don’t get."
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My view is Kevin acting surprised Lil Nas X would announce he is gay is, as folks have said, gaslighting, because he should know thanks to his controversy how difficult things still are for gay folks in America, and yes as Nas implied add an extra layer for gay folks who are also black.

Maybe folks in thread are right, and maybe Kevin acting surprised was an act he was putting on to get some good press given his controversy but he still deserves the heat he’s getting because we don’t know either way if he’s genuinely gaslighting or if he’s just trying to maneuver some good PR.

Honestly neither option is as good as just plain being a genuinely good as person who is accepting of people no matter how they sexually identify, no tricks or stunts at all, which it doesn’t seem like Kevin is capable.

  

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69. "I don’t think surprised is the right word to describe Kevin’s reacti..."
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I think he was saying it shouldn’t be a big deal that he is gay in 2019.

The environment has definitely changed BECAUSE such a big deal was made about jokes in 2010. Jokes many of us had no clue were even made back in 2010. Hell, some people outraged in 2018 prolly laughed at the jokes in 2010.

Point is.. the needle has changed because it wasn’t even a big deal when Nas X announced he was gay. There are a lot more shows than Pose. We have shows and movies with Black gay story lines and it’s not controversial.

The only pushback was because Kevin has tons of fans... and you know what fans are.. fanatic. You don’t really expect a popular figure to lose all his support over a joke 8 years ago that he already apologized for numerous times.

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60. "different environment doesn't mean there's not work to be"
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done. but I'd be hard-pressed to believe you think there's been zero progress in acceptance of gay people. everybody aint there yet.

hell, Lil Nas X is at least one example of that. how many folks would've come out in hip hop when Kev was making those jokes? there are folks that came at Lil Nas after he said his piece, but for the most part, it seemed to have blown over.

For Kev, we can't get a good view of him from this short clip.

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64. "Did you watch the whole show? "
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65. "outrage first. ask questions later "
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67. "there's literally no extra context in the show"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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84. "then there's nothing to see, really"
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Kev tried a little too hard and was being a bit dishonest about his "why". LNX called him on it and broke it down.

They handled it all right there. everything else is noise

  

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73. "Literally nothing to be outraged about in that show."
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if this post wasn't made, and the twitter mob didn't already put Kev's head on a spike

...again...

I would have watched that entire episode without ever raising an eyebrow or giving a sideye

I thought the entire episode was a great exchange

Didn't see anything remotely problematic with the exchange between Kev and LNX

...in fact, I think they both probably have a new found level of respect for one another after the conversation...

Unfortunately, Kev was bubblin' and dominated the entire episode

I really found his elitist humor hilarious

But I wanted a more expansive conversation on anxiety

Felt like KLove got overshadowed

Incredibly interested in his story of having the worst time of his life...during a championship run...

Really wanted to hear more about that.

But the Kev vs LNX storyline was some bullshit

Good show though.

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66. "Why'd you post the 2nd link?"
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Do you consider her an important person who's killin it with that forced and played out point?
Is she your anger translator?

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68. "Your tone toward me is trash but to answer your question I didn’t have"
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time to explain why I thought Kevin’s point was dumb and some of y’all on here can’t think on their own so I added the tweet as context in case folks couldn’t figure it out.

I wanted a discussion not a string of “what’s your point?” posts if I only posted the link.

  

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76. "My tone is mad friendly!"
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It's kinda hypocritical to accuse people of not being able to think on their own when you're using someone else's words to speak for yourself, and that might be part of the reason people are responding the way they are.
But anyway, those were my honest thoughts on what the woman said, b/c the histories, the way people find out and thus implications of the issues are vastly different. If this issue is capable of standing on its own, its probably best to let it do so, as one or both of these issues is being disrespected by the comparison. It's cheap and either ignorant or disingenuous.

To the point about Hart, I think he was trying to defend and support LNX but the "why would you hate it" question was silly. Just chill out. It's almost like he was drunk and spouting off without just hearing the kid out first.

Another weird thing about the clip to me is that there's a room full of mostly black men who are all understanding and attentive but they only pan to show the white guy actively listening. It's subtle, but it's registering to people subconsciously. And maybe the whole show takes time to show the rest of them listening, but this is clip they chose to use as marketing, so there's that.

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78. "...in his defense...and to your point...alot of this is HBO's marketing"
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I can't remember the exact reference

but if you recall, the original internet dustup clip for the show

consisted of LeBron speaking on his experience as a teenager and being exposed to YT culutre...and his initial distrust of YT pee poe

the twitterverse ran with that too...on some, LeBron hates YT pee poe bullshit

so to your point, yeah, alot of this faux outrage is the result of HBO's intentional marketing strategy

...and yes, Kev was at least buzzed...if not drunk.

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80. "Oh ok, I appreciate the context."
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>I can't remember the exact reference
>
>but if you recall, the original internet dustup clip for the
>show
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>consisted of LeBron speaking on his experience as a teenager
>and being exposed to YT culutre...and his initial distrust of
>YT pee poe
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>the twitterverse ran with that too...on some, LeBron hates YT
>pee poe bullshit
>
>so to your point, yeah, alot of this faux outrage is the
>result of HBO's intentional marketing strategy
>
>...and yes, Kev was at least buzzed...if not drunk.

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82. "they stay sippin’ on that show"
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Prolly to loosen them up so you get real exchanges

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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77. "i'm glad she did. its an example of how ridiculous twitter has become"
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and how people take their cues from ridiculous people on twitter

i could easily see CNN having a panel discussion over this on a slow trump day

  

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70. "I think Kevin Hart was right *shrug*"
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It's not a big deal to be gay in 2019. While there are barriers still being broken and work to be done in the civil rights realm, it's not nearly as taboo as it was even 10 yrs ago.

I've seen multiple commercials with same sex couples...explicitly positioned as couples for the ads. Can't say I recall ever seeing a commercial in this realm prior to maybe 3 yrs ago.

D-Wade's son just got tons of support from him and others about his sexuality.

Taylor Swift performed an ode to the LGBTQ community in her VMA performance, having a prominent gay viral rapper on stage.

Multiple pro football players have come out, most recently Ryan Russell.

There are openly gay politicians in office, hell Chicago's Mayor is a black lesbian.

And while yes, there's still that undercurrent of bigotry floating around, LNX coming out as gay at height of his popularity was risky but not as big of a deal had this been 2005 or something.

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71. "you, and your ilk, are being idiots about this."
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Everything Kevin said was actually supporting Lil Nas X. I don't know how people are so dumb as to twist this into some anti-gay shit.

I mean, he literally told Lil' Nas X that "in no way shape or form should you ever have to defend (yourself by saying) 'but guys, this is who i am'" and then he basically says that Lil' Nas X is standing on who he is and is successful and doesn't need to explain himself...THEN Maverick Carter asks Kevin HOW he got to that place and Kev says "I had to get fucked up in life," implying that he made mistakes speaking on being gay in the past and he LEARNED.

Does it get any more pro-gay (or at least pro-Lil-Nas-X-who-is-gay)?

SMH.

  

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74. "Straight like dat!"
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Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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75. "People will do anything for clicks"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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72. "funny this post is happening while Kev is in the hospital"
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the duality is interesting.

i'm not saying the post or discussion should not happen.

i am saying that its a trip how when someone like Kev has a lot of media output it can be interesting that two big discussions can happen

on one side, what he said in the clip

on the other side, the big question if he will be able to walk again.

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79. "and not for nothing, i saw SO many loud and wrong people..."
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wishing DEATH upon Kev saying it was too bad he didn't die in the accident about an incident THAT THEY TOTALLY GOT FUCKING WRONG (see my post above).

fucking sad man. people are fucking miserable.

  

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Dr Claw
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81. "yeah, I definitely do NOT rock with that shit."
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Dislike him all you will, but that shit is dirtbag shit

  

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83. "while i shouldn't be surprised by shit like this"
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I always am. the shit people will say behind a keyboard that they think is justified because they feel they're on the right side of things

>wishing DEATH upon Kev saying it was too bad he didn't die in
>the accident

  

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85. "Discussing the accident"
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I don't really care about this other stuff.

He had his back fused now. The weird shit tho is he was taken out the car and back to his house while the driver and his girl were still in the car? And then at the house they realized he was more injured/not coherent and called 911? Something odd about it all but glad nobody died and hope all recover, just odd.

  

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86. "I had thought he was drunk driving & friend took the fall"
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But TMZ reported the way the friend was rescued he had to have been driving because he had steering wheel impact.

So then it becomes “what innocent friend would leave the scene of a crime with his two friends trapped?”

An either “I’m blackout levels drunk and therefore shouldn’t be looked at as a wack friend or “fuck them friends” type.

I am guessing the former.

Glad everyone is okay.

  

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87. "or his team swooped in and got him "
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because he is their bank.



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88. "If that's what happened they'll be found out."
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There was a case here where a driver (with a car full of people) killed a dude on a motorcycle late one night. Originally, the driver was supposed to have be the DD for her intoxicated boyfriend. It turns out, he was behind the one behind the wheel (drunk, of course), and everyone in the car agreed to say the the girlfriend was driving. NYPD pulled the text messages between them, plus surveillance footage from the bars they had been at just before the accident to prove he had been drinking all night. If there's anything remotely like that here, LAPD will do the same.

  

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90. "No not like that. Like the Scene from that Chris Rock Movie. 5 Mics. "
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You whisk him away to minimize the pubilicity and drama and liability claims. You also leave someone there to manage everything. Dude standing around would have made it a circus and he didn't abandon them.




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91. "LAPD treats celebs different "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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89. "RE: or his team swooped in and got him "
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>because he is their bank.

I think this is probably what happened. It still sounds low key shady to leave the other people unless someone else from the team stayed with them until the ambulance arrived.

  

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