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Boogie Stimuli
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"Lies of Leaving Neverland - Full Movie"


          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXOfz1YkWeA

I guess those of yall who insist on believing the lies will have to skip this one in order to continue doing so, but I wanted to share this for those interested in the facts.



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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
props to Yahoo Entertainment for reporting this initially
Aug 17th 2019
1
That's wassup. I saw it on Taj Jackson's Twitter.
Aug 19th 2019
4
      whoever put this film package together (I have a suspicion as to who)
Aug 19th 2019
6
           LOL
Aug 23rd 2019
11
                OK, Jake Tapper.
Aug 24th 2019
13
                     for...accurately describing heavy.com?
Aug 26th 2019
38
that's crazy
Aug 17th 2019
2
y'all will really give any scammer youtube clicks
Aug 19th 2019
3
as opposed to paying HBO subscription money to watch scammers
Aug 19th 2019
5
Flawless Victory!
Aug 19th 2019
7
sorry somebody tried to make you feel bad about being an MJ fan
Aug 23rd 2019
9
      that they lied and continue to lie makes me feel worse.
Aug 24th 2019
12
           how do you know that they lied?
Aug 26th 2019
36
           go somewhere with that appeal to authority bullshit.
Aug 27th 2019
42
                *crickets*
Aug 27th 2019
45
                nah boy.
Aug 27th 2019
47
                you made the claim that your problem is "they lied"
Aug 27th 2019
48
                wtf is this made up shit?
Aug 27th 2019
52
                yeah I prolly wouldn't follow up on this either.
Aug 31st 2019
64
           your words
Aug 27th 2019
49
and you believe absolute bullshit
Aug 19th 2019
8
      I can't say this clearly enough
Aug 23rd 2019
10
           and you're a fucking liar and a fool
Aug 25th 2019
18
                what'd I lie about
Aug 26th 2019
34
                     it's weird man, no one can point out the part where I lied about anythin...
Aug 30th 2019
63
Nah, don't need to watch. I believe them 100%. MJ molested kids
Aug 25th 2019
14
^ Like I said, you gotta skip this one if you wanna believe the lies
Aug 25th 2019
15
You believe lies
Aug 25th 2019
16
She voted for Trump?
Aug 26th 2019
23
I'm not even American (thank god) and you're
Aug 26th 2019
33
      claiming randomly that someone voted for trump is such a weird thing
Aug 26th 2019
40
this is a mighty white reply.
Aug 26th 2019
29
all intelligent people knew from day 1 that MJ never molested no kid
Aug 25th 2019
17
this is a bit extreme
Aug 26th 2019
19
Do you think the lies are extreme?
Aug 26th 2019
20
I feel free, thanks
Aug 26th 2019
21
      And what you're doing with said freedom is speaking volumes
Aug 26th 2019
22
           oh, now you’re talking about my character
Aug 26th 2019
24
           You may wanna lurk if you wanna hide it.
Aug 26th 2019
25
           You might also wanna choose another sig
Aug 26th 2019
26
                you might wanna try being less emotional and more rational
Aug 27th 2019
46
                     Take your own advice. I'm more rational than you here.
Aug 28th 2019
56
                          being so rational that you can self-evaluate your own rationality
Aug 28th 2019
57
                               *here's your attention*
Aug 28th 2019
58
                                    a response is not required
Aug 28th 2019
61
                                         You're welcome
Aug 30th 2019
62
           makaveli replied to someone who claimed to have all the info they needed
Aug 27th 2019
54
                And I questioned the fact that *that* compelled him to respond
Aug 28th 2019
55
                     LOL
Aug 28th 2019
59
                          🤣🤣🤣
Aug 28th 2019
60
a bit? lol
Aug 26th 2019
27
Simple question: Did adult MJ ever share a bed with young boys?
Aug 26th 2019
28
it is a fact.
Aug 26th 2019
31
because Smollett. and Trump.
Aug 26th 2019
39
i wouldn't call that abuse in itself
Aug 26th 2019
32
The reason it's abuse is because he was in a position of power
Aug 27th 2019
41
idk if that's abuse
Aug 26th 2019
37
      haha
Aug 27th 2019
44
           it's just something I can't do.
Aug 27th 2019
50
                you voted for trump
Aug 27th 2019
51
                     it's the only reasonable answer tbh
Aug 27th 2019
53
day 1 is a stretch
Aug 26th 2019
30
that's a weird claim to make about another person
Aug 26th 2019
35
If having sex with women was illegal...
Aug 27th 2019
43
in a world with epsteins and weinsteins
Aug 31st 2019
65
Good lookin out, Black! Finna watch right now.
Aug 31st 2019
66
Fasho
Aug 31st 2019
67
MJ was WEIRD AF, sorry he a creep to me.
Aug 31st 2019
68

Dr Claw
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1. "props to Yahoo Entertainment for reporting this initially"
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https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/michael-jackson-accuser-wade-robsons-224957776.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw

now... don't go looking for COON_grapes and the rest of them eggheads who got tight around the balls when this was pointed out before to about face now that the lies are laid out there for everyone to see.

shit was a scam from the get go. Jussie Smollett 2.0, only it worked (mostly) as planned.

and with all the associated fuckery, one has to wonder why no one has looked into the possibility that this whole charade was funded by ...someone not related to the movie maker or its subjects.

I find it highly dubious that those two dudes have the $$$ to keep the lawsuits alive, to keep the PR machine rolling, to fund the movie and get it shoved into Sundance ahead of the Weinstein doc (Untouchable), so on and so forth.

HBO is currently out here claiming a First Amendment violation when no one, government entity or otherwise, kept them from publishing this bullshit in the first place. All to avoid public arbitration over an agreement which had very clear language as to what to do or not do.

https://deadline.com/2019/08/michael-jackson-finding-neverland-lawsuit-dismissal-hbo-sex-abuse-documentary-emmys-1202670029/

motherfuckers out here like the goddamn Lib Dems in the UK, willing to let Brexit happen just so as long as "socialist" Corbyn doesn't have PM, temporarily.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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4. "That's wassup. I saw it on Taj Jackson's Twitter."
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Mon Aug-19-19 06:48 AM by Boogie Stimuli

          

As a survivor of molestation, dude is really passionate about defending his uncle. He and his cousin Brandy did a great interview about the lies in the mockumentary if you haven't seen it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ8PUNP8FkA
Edit: youtube recommended this other interview with Brandy and Taj after I found the one with Nicole: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-yUqqYjsJc

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Everything's turning out perfectly

  

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Dr Claw
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6. "whoever put this film package together (I have a suspicion as to who)"
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did so with the implied purpose of it getting shared (given the download link).

of course if corporate media did its fucking job, no one would have to resort to using viral videos to be the whistleblower.

Heavy.com had a piece that was published sometime yesterday that did its best to explain away the bullshit ("they explained this in the movie"). a movie that was curiously bereft of the kind of expertise that usually accompanies such stories. using Surviving R. Kelly as an example, they had experts on the topic at hand contributing. this was actually part of Stereo Williams' critique.


I hate sounding like a petty right winger, but "political correctness" in this particular regard shouldn't be part of journalism. to that, I don't mean you go print stories that call people names, or are defamatory.

but you can't be afraid to investigate something that looks suspicious because you'll look a certain way.

This is Jussie Smollett 2.0, only the media gatekeepers are looking the other way when the evidence is presented. alt-centrist coonery.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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11. "LOL"
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heavy.com REEL JOURNALIZM

aka anything y'all will click on in google

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Dr Claw
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13. "OK, Jake Tapper."
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Rjcc
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38. "for...accurately describing heavy.com?"
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what I said isn't even disputable.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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2. "that's crazy"
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Sat Aug-17-19 08:02 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

i haven't seen leaving neverland either

  

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3. "y'all will really give any scammer youtube clicks"
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if they tell you you're a really special snowflake.

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5. "as opposed to paying HBO subscription money to watch scammers"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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7. "Flawless Victory! "
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

  

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9. "sorry somebody tried to make you feel bad about being an MJ fan"
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and then you had to waste dozens of hours "proving" why you don't need to feel bad.


that was a lot of wasted time for you.

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Dr Claw
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12. "that they lied and continue to lie makes me feel worse."
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Sat Aug-24-19 07:50 AM by Dr Claw

  

          

I like the man's music.
I don't like aspects of his personal life.

but I despise the way the media has handled this topic regarding him. There is a bias, and it is not based in fact. the fact that they have gone full court press in the face of provable lies is a problem.

and the man has been dead for 10 years.
so whatever "public interest" they pretended to have with this film is nil.


Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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36. "how do you know that they lied?"
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I'm deeply interested in your history of investigating claims of sexual assault that give you the expertise to know what makes one person a confirmed liar about it.

because surely this isn't the only case you've investigated so thoroughly, right?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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42. "go somewhere with that appeal to authority bullshit."
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the niggas are on tape telling a vastly different story than they tell in the film.

court documents and photos that were obtained and verified prove or at least greatly suggest the timeline of events claimed by the accusers to be impossible.

this isn't some work of someone manipulating footage to match a narrative. these are the accusers' own words, unmodified.

if the fact that documents leaked, or that you're waiting on "a real journalistic outlet" to put this information out is a problem...

then why is the absence of those same entities of authority in the original film, or any sort of corroboration of the claims also being absent not also a problem?

we're told a story and compelled to believe it because... reasons.

no proof, just reasons.

meanwhile, one side consistently has proof of what they claim.

it doesn't matter who puts it out as long as it's substantiated.

  

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45. "*crickets*"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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47. "nah boy."
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you want to make yourself the sexual assault investigator, show how you became qualified to do it.

you say you're not just a fan searching for an excuse, then do the fuckin work.

or maybe admit what the fuck you fucking are.

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48. "you made the claim that your problem is "they lied""
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then you need to establish how you came to that and what puts you on the side of motherfucking truth.

because you *claim* that part of the reason you're going hard on this is so that real victims get believed.

you owe them more than this.

unless you're a lying little boy who is afraid of what he'll find out if he looks more closely.

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52. "wtf is this made up shit?"
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"if the fact that documents leaked, or that you're waiting on "a real journalistic outlet" to put this information out is a problem..."


I have no fuckin clue what you're even talking about.

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64. "yeah I prolly wouldn't follow up on this either."
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cuz this is basically a list of reasons to support r kelly, bill cosby, george pell and a hundred other motherfuckers you've never heard of because you think you're an expert based on...some scammer youtubers telling you that you are.



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49. "your words"
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"but I despise the way the media has handled this topic regarding him. There is a bias, and it is not based in fact. the fact that they have gone full court press in the face of provable lies is a problem."

so c'mon.

let's run down the stories of other adults who've accused someone of abusing them while they're children and find out if they have inconsistencies too.


because that's what's important to you, right?

the truth.

and if anything is wrong, then they're lying. This means you should be defending the legend of Joe Paterno btw


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8. "and you believe absolute bullshit"
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fuck you.

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10. "I can't say this clearly enough"
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there's nothing about your opinion of me that I care about, on any level.

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18. "and you're a fucking liar and a fool"
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your fake fuck opinion doesn't mean shit to anyone with any intelligence. go fuck off bitch.

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34. "what'd I lie about"
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63. "it's weird man, no one can point out the part where I lied about anythin..."
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14. "Nah, don't need to watch. I believe them 100%. MJ molested kids"
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for years.

Thats why he sought them out, kept them sleeping in his bed, showed them porn and kept them young, replacing one after the other.

If you REFUSE to see the obvious, that's on you.

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

  

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15. "^ Like I said, you gotta skip this one if you wanna believe the lies"
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Exhibit A

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16. "You believe lies"
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you also vote for trump. you're a fucking fool. also, nobody believes fake fucks like you.

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23. "She voted for Trump? "
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shut up already, damn

  

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33. "I'm not even American (thank god) and you're "
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Are the one who has to live with the most laughable orange clown ever to live on this earth. We just shake our heads from afar.

I was a HUGE MJ fan. His music? The very fucking best, no contest.

But he molested children.

'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

  

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40. "claiming randomly that someone voted for trump is such a weird thing"
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but dude has to maintain his delusion, so

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29. "this is a mighty white reply."
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>Thats why he sought them out,

this is patently false.
it is easily proven that the only contact Michael ever had with these children was through the persistent contact of their parents. rare was it that he voluntarily chose their company.


>kept them sleeping in his bed,

as is this. there is no doubt that he slept in the same bed as children and that's reasonable room for suspicion. but this has been litigated numerous times already.

he absolutely did not invite children into his bedroom or his bed.

>showed them porn

false. this was disproven in the 2005 case. no children were ever shown pornographic material. it was alleged, but it was found that the porn entered into evidence was printed AFTER a report was made. Sneddon also allowed the accuser to handle the material in question during grand jury proceedings BEFORE entering it into evidence.

>and kept them young, replacing one after the other.

absolutely false.
this allegation falls apart when you look at the allegations of Leaving Neverland in detail.

Wade suggests he was "replaced" by Macaulay Culkin, who has for decades denied abuse, in and out of court, including under penalty of perjury. Culkin's father (who was abusive to Macaulay and his brother) even corroborates these claims.

Culkin is older than Wade Robson by a couple of years.

the other principal accuser alleges the end of abuse at age 14. he also alleges abuse in a location that did not exist until he was at least age 16.

he also alleges being "discarded" at the same age. there are multiple photos showing him in the vicinity of Jackson 2 years after that point. and much later in the 2000s, on a job shooting his last video prior to the allegations of that period. his mother is also seen in some of those same photos.


>If you REFUSE to see the obvious, that's on you.

what's obvious is that you've been regurgitating tabloid falsehoods that were disproven when brought up under a microscope.

and you refuse to see the tangible proof otherwise.

that is, on you.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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17. "all intelligent people knew from day 1 that MJ never molested no kid"
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anyone who thought otherwise should be ashamed of themselves. They are fucking fools, and that's being nice.

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19. "this is a bit extreme "
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20. "Do you think the lies are extreme?"
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Feel completely free to keep the same energy under reply 14.
Reply 3 as well if you don't mind replying to trolls.

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21. "I feel free, thanks"
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I don’t know what MJ did or didn’t do, but calling someone an idiot for believing he might have done those things is a bit extreme in my opinion.

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22. "And what you're doing with said freedom is speaking volumes"
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about your character.

>I don’t know what MJ did or didn’t do, but calling
>someone an idiot for believing he might have done those things
>is a bit extreme in my opinion.


Notice you said "believing he MIGHT HAVE done those things" while reply 14 says he absolutely did those things... even added a proven lie in there on the cool.
Your issue isn't the slander or the lie tho... just with someone calling the liar names.

Beyond that, some of the stuff MJ "did or didn't do" is provable, but you say you don't know, which makes it clear that you don't care to know... which means you're in here to police others' language? What is your motivation?

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24. "oh, now you’re talking about my character"
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I’m glad we had this conversation.

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25. "You may wanna lurk if you wanna hide it."
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Character tends to show when we interact w/ people.

>I’m glad we had this conversation.

So am I.


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26. "You might also wanna choose another sig"
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>“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

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46. "you might wanna try being less emotional and more rational"
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56. "Take your own advice. I'm more rational than you here."
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57. "being so rational that you can self-evaluate your own rationality"
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is definitely a thing rational people do.

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58. "*here's your attention*"
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61. "a response is not required"
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62. "You're welcome"
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54. "makaveli replied to someone who claimed to have all the info they needed"
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on day 1. and that whoever didn't is unintelligent and should be ashamed

his reply wasn't even anything extreme. he claimed its a bit much.

and you wanna make this about HIS character? lol

> which means you're in here to
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55. "And I questioned the fact that *that* compelled him to respond"
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to this post, despite a proven lie being told before that point.
So are we just recounting what happened now? lol


>and you wanna make this about HIS character? lol

Yes, because of the aforementioned point.
Now the lie is still there and this conversation is what compels you, so your character comes under question for defending him instead of pointing it out. *shrugs*

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59. "LOL"
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>>and you wanna make this about HIS character? lol
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>Yes, because of the aforementioned point.
>Now the lie is still there and this conversation is what
>compels you, so your character comes under question for
>defending him instead of pointing it out. *shrugs*
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60. "🤣🤣🤣"
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27. "a bit? lol"
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28. "Simple question: Did adult MJ ever share a bed with young boys?"
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If that's true then it's abuse and he cannot be defended in any way, shape or form.

Folks can put any kind of spin on that they want but that is a fact.

  

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31. "it is a fact."
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it is also wrong, and incredibly stupid. indefensible.

However, that act is not what these allegations (nor this film) is about. it's about the serial rape of children.

and when tangible proof that the accusers are likely lying about this matter and that the director of the film was being purposely deceptive to drive home the point has been not only been made available but compiled, acting as if that's a relevant point with regards to a film that has been presented as unimpeachable proof is coon shit.

this a Jussie Smollett situation.

for some odd reason, he (very likely) preyed on the heightened public sensitivity and outrage toward homophobic violence and the fanaticism of Trump supporters... for reasons unknown.

when the proof came out that he may have staged his assault, the dude was raked over the coals and looked to be facing a serious penalty until the cops dropped the charges.

this is the same thing, only the Trump machine isn't there to actually force the issue of fact finding in the mainstream. also, the alleged perpetrator is dead, so there will be no law enforcement investigation. when this was the case, we saw what happened.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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39. "because Smollett. and Trump."
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there's a thing here. you have to change the subject.

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32. "i wouldn't call that abuse in itself"
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it's def inappropriate and weird for a 40 something man and someone else's kids, and even if it was something completely innocuous on mj's part, it just makes it that much harder to climb out when accusations arise.

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41. "The reason it's abuse is because he was in a position of power"
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and used that to do inappropriate things.

It's irrelevant that the boys may have enjoyed sharing a bed with him. He should not have put them in that situation.

Abuse can manifest itself in many ways, some subtle and others not.

  

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37. "idk if that's abuse"
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but I have a weird thing where if a grown man tells me he slept in a bed with young boys, I'm unwilling to be the person who says I know for one hundred percent certainty that he didn't do anything to them

maybe it's just me.


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44. "haha"
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>but I have a weird thing where if a grown man tells me he
>slept in a bed with young boys, I'm unwilling to be the person
>who says I know for one hundred percent certainty that he
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50. "it's just something I can't do."
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what happened between him and those kids?

I don't feel qualified to say, and despite some looking, I haven't found anyone among his defenders who is.


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51. "you voted for trump"
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53. "it's the only reasonable answer tbh"
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30. "day 1 is a stretch"
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but given the information that has been available for the past 25 years, you are correct.


after the 1994 GQ article that told the story behind Reuters reports of the 1993 allegations, this should have been the end of discussion.

even further more, the ridiculousness of the 2005 trial should have been the END end.

this is the fault of media not cleaning up their mess after it was over.

niggas that know the truth is contrary to their belief will push the "sleeping in beds" point when that's already been litigated.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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35. "that's a weird claim to make about another person"
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but thank you for admitting that it is impossible for you to believe any accusations about michael jackson, so there's really no reason to interact with you


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43. "If having sex with women was illegal..."
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65. "in a world with epsteins and weinsteins"
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who werent caught for decades, I don't buy this excuse anymore. Wealthy people buy their way out of jail all the time.

  

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66. "Good lookin out, Black! Finna watch right now."
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67. "Fasho"
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68. "MJ was WEIRD AF, sorry he a creep to me."
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