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MeshaMeesh
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"Y'all see this? TFA reissue w/ essays from 15 and BT in Sept"


  

          

https://twitter.com/BigSto/status/1162400183172378625

Hadn't seen OKP or the fellas share this on social media.

If this is true, all I wish for is the OG version of "Quicksand Millenium". Whoo!

I'd love some instrumentals too... specifically for "Step Into the Realm", and "Nothin' New". I found low quality instrus of "Act Too" and "The Next Movement" some years ago on the innanet, so let's hope that we get those too.

Shoot.

Do allum lol


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Didn't he say that fire was gonna prevent any reissues?
Aug 16th 2019
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Pretty sure he meant just for albums pre-TFA actually.
Aug 16th 2019
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Yeah, I swore it was all pre-TFA albums too
Aug 16th 2019
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We don't know what was lost or what the will use
Aug 16th 2019
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      I'm not too familiar with the Clean album version differences
Aug 16th 2019
5
           Copy/paste of an old note I have about Clean ALbum
Aug 16th 2019
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                WELP, looks like I gotta buy this now too lmao
Aug 16th 2019
7
                     NO INBOX
Aug 16th 2019
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                          MAY DA LORD BLESS YOUR EXISTENCE
Aug 16th 2019
9
Ayeeee so they ARE reissuing DYWM and Infidel Hellfire
Aug 16th 2019
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What are things y’all would wanna see/hear on those?
Aug 16th 2019
11
Infidel Hellfire?!!?
Aug 17th 2019
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      LOL, yeah
Aug 17th 2019
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      FOUND IT
Aug 17th 2019
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Okayplayer is only selling the standard edition...limited edition is at ...
Aug 17th 2019
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You just saved me from accidentally buying the standard
Sep 28th 2019
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I was right about Quicksand Millenium, but no instrus
Sep 28th 2019
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does anyone have the liner notes
Sep 28th 2019
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I copped the standard reissue
Sep 30th 2019
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RE: I copped the standard reissue
Sep 30th 2019
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im tempted to get the limited edition
Sep 30th 2019
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It is *crazy* how hard it is to find the limited edition.
Sep 30th 2019
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the link is above.
Sep 30th 2019
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      Nah I know
Sep 30th 2019
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           agreed
Sep 30th 2019
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                i bought mine from uDiscover Music...they haven't shipped it yet though
Sep 30th 2019
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                     It showed up today
Oct 05th 2019
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Original version of Adrenaline is on the album with Dice Raw closing it
Oct 05th 2019
28
Now with 100% more “bitch”
Oct 06th 2019
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1. "Didn't he say that fire was gonna prevent any reissues?"
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2. "Pretty sure he meant just for albums pre-TFA actually."
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Like I actually kinda recall him specifically noting that, though I also could just be completely making that up hah. But now that we're talking about it it rings a bell so I don't think I am just making it up.

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Fri Aug-16-19 12:11 PM

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3. "Yeah, I swore it was all pre-TFA albums too"
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4. "We don't know what was lost or what the will use"
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TFA has been reissued before - they could just use the same tapes for that. Many reissues for many bands don't come from the original masters - they have safety copies and other generations around too.

The bonus stuff on here has all been released before, so I suspect they'll use the masters used on the singles or other albums. Where are the real rarities - we know they have a bunch in the can - or at least the stuff on the "CLEAN ALBUM" version of TFA with the different Act Fores.

I'd really like a surround version of the record - but I'll bet the multi tracks are what was lost in the fire.

E1 Table of Contents #3 – cut from album; previously released on The Legendary EP; not up digitally
I'm pretty sure they have 2 more TOCs in the can.

E2 What You Want – from The Roots Come Alive
From existing album.

E3 Quicksand Millennium ¬- cut from the album, released on Homegrown! Vol. 2 compilation
From existing album.

E4 We Got You (Extended) – extended version of track from The Roots Come Alive
From existing album.

E5 You Got Me (Drum & Bass w/ Jill Scott) - unreleased
This could be either the original version that was on the Demo tape - and on the Hidden Beach Presents: The Original Jill Scott From The Vault, Vol. 1. or this could be something liek those Q-Cru remixes but using Jill instead. https://www.discogs.com/pt_BR/The-Roots-vs-Q-Cru-You-Got-Me-The-Mixes/release/464516


F1 You Got Me (Me Tienes Remix) – from “You Got Me” CD single; not up digitally
From existing single.

F2 Act Too (Love of My Life) – from Brown Sugar soundtrack; not up digitally
From existing album.

F3 Y'all Know Who – from Homegrown! Vol. 2 compilation
From existing album.

F4 The Lesson - Part III (w/ Jaguar Wright) - from The Roots Come Alive
From existing album.

F5 New Years @ Jay Dee's – from “You Got Me” CD single; not up digitally
From existing single.

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5. "I'm not too familiar with the Clean album version differences"
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I'll have to look into that


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6. "Copy/paste of an old note I have about Clean ALbum"
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Things Fall Apart (1999)****
54. Act Won...Things Fall Apart
55. Table Of Contents (Parts 1 & 2)
56. The Next Movement (ft. DJ Jazzy Jeff)
57. Step Into The Realm
58. The Spark
59. Dynamite!
60. Without A Doubt
61. Ain't Sayin' Nothin' New
62. Double Trouble
63. Act Too...The Love Of My Life
64. 100% Dundee
65. Diedre Vs. Dice
66. Adrenaline
67. 3rd Act: ? Vs. Scratch 2...Electric Boogaloo *****
68. You Got Me
69. You Don't See Us
70. Return To Innocence Lost (Ursula Rucker) + Still Out Deah (The is no Hidden Track, We Think)
70. Things Fall Apart The Center Will Not Hold (Rich Medina) + The Hidden Track (Rahzel + Scratch) (Early Version of Rahzel's Carbon Copy (I Can't Stop)) (Plus South Park Skit)
71. Act Fore...The End?

**** The Clean Album differs from the retail explicit album in many ways. First, the 'curse' words are either reversed or replaced with with sound effects such as horns, beeps, bird calls, sirens, dog barks or buzzers ala the video version of Boogie Down Production's 'Love is Gonna Get 'cha.'. Secondly, many tracks have slightly different musical sections, background vocals and mixes.
The tracks may blend into one another in a different manner than on the retail version.

I can discern differences on the following tracks:
0)Act Won on the explicit album has the Rhodes keyboard backward-masked. The version on the clean album has the Rhodes played normally. (Thanks to Questlove for pointing this out.)
1)Table of Contents Pt. 1 and 2: Pt. 1 has a different mix, while Pt. 2 has slightly different backing vocals.
2)The end of 'With out a Doubt' where Questlove sings "Black Thought, Kamal on the keys, Questlove rides shot on the M.I.C" has different music.

I am sure there are many other subtle differences between the two versions of this album.

Also note that the promotional cassette of this album sent to reviewers and major retailers has Jill Scott's version of '68. You Got Me' and includes Erykah Badu's version as a bonus track.

***** Two versions of this track exist. The clean album version is different than the explicit version. The explicit version is :51 seconds long and the clean version is 1:31, and while both are Quest and Scratch messing around, they differ in musical content entirely. They share the same name.

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7. "WELP, looks like I gotta buy this now too lmao"
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Fri Aug-16-19 02:04 PM by MeshaMeesh

  

          

Thank you for pasting this!


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8. "NO INBOX"
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https://gofile.io/?c=fjY6aE

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9. "MAY DA LORD BLESS YOUR EXISTENCE"
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THIS IS WHO I CALL A GOOD SAMARITAN!

THANK YOUUU!!!!


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10. "Ayeeee so they ARE reissuing DYWM and Infidel Hellfire"
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https://www.okayplayer.com/music/buy-the-roots-things-fall-apart-reissue-1999.html


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11. "What are things y’all would wanna see/hear on those?"
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Despite the troubles because of the fires, I’m interesting to see what’s this gonna look like.

I’ll always want instrumentals to “There’s Something Going On” and “What Goes On Pt. 7” from DYWM and “Episodes” and “No Alibi” from IH. Doubt it tho lol


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13. " Infidel Hellfire?!!?"
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it took me a sec before I realized what you meant.
*CROCKER*

word booty.

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14. "LOL, yeah"
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I'm sorry about that, I could've sworn that there was a joke going around that someone called Illadelph Halflife as Indifel Hellfire in a review or something and now it's an insider OKP joke. I can't find it nor remember how/when I heard that


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15. "FOUND IT"
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Reply # 35

https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2871266&mesg_id=2871266&listing_type=search


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12. "Okayplayer is only selling the standard edition...limited edition is at ..."
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Limited Edition includes 5 lithographs of the five different covers of TFA...and in clear vinyl...

Standard range from $65-70...Limited is $100

  

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16. "You just saved me from accidentally buying the standard"
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I got a $100 gift card for Amazon and was gonna get this from the site. I just so happened to search for this post again since I didn't see any new posts from y'all. Glad I did because I was about to buy the standard thinking it was the limited one. I didn't look closely enough to the images on Amazon.

What I want to find out though is if both of these come with a digital download link so I don't have to buy this album again on Google Play. I don't own a record player but I really want the Limited collection!!!!


"Now's your chance to revisit this classic in two different editions or in a digital configuration. The standard configuration features the original album, remastered on double vinyl with a third LP of bonus tracks curated by Questlove, including a 24-page booklet featuring rare photos, retrospective essays by Black Thought and Questlove and track-by-track liner notes from Questlove. The Collector's Edition features all of the above, but as crystal-clear vinyl and a die-cut slipcase of the primary cover art plus the 4 original alternate covers as interchangeable lithos with foil stamp numbering plus a 6th brand new bonus cover."


https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/the-roots-things-fall-apart-to-be-reissued-for-20th-anniversary-on-3lp-september-27-via-geffenurban-legends-300924705.html



Link for the Standard:

https://www.amazon.com/Things-Fall-Apart-Deluxe-LP/dp/B07VFQNWN6/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=the+roots+things+fall+apart&qid=1569698205&s=music&sr=1-1


Link for the Limited:

https://shop.urbanlegends.com/products/things-fall-apart-limited-edition-3lp



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17. "I was right about Quicksand Millenium, but no instrus"
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:(

I've never heard the Act Too Remix before, and obviously the Drum & Bass mix of You Got Me has never been heard before.


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18. "does anyone have the liner notes"
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19. "I copped the standard reissue "
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While the lithographs sounded cool, I know that I will likely keep this thing on the shelf more than not as I do with most of my records in 2019.

Essays and liner notes are great. If you’re cut from the same ant farm cloth as I am, you’ll be familiar with some of the anecdotes but still some good stories I hadn’t heard. Haven’t given the actual wax a listen yet (again, 2019), but I will later this week.

Between this and seeing them do the whole album at the Hollywood Bowl a couple weeks ago, nostalgia is at an all-time high and I’m more ready than ever to hear EndGame, particularly because it’s supposed to be more of a nod to their past than their previous albums.

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25. "RE: I copped the standard reissue "
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Can you update us on if/how the quality has changed on this reissue? I know the album is supposed to be remastered.

Also, is the Quicksand Millenium on here taken right from Home Grown 2, or is it a different but similar mix, and is the outrolude the same?
I was hoping they'd remaster the slightly slower OG mix, but I doubt it.


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20. "im tempted to get the limited edition"
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i kind of wish i didnt buy a repress a couple weeks back and just bought this instead.

  

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21. "It is *crazy* how hard it is to find the limited edition."
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Why not sell it on this damn site?

Anyway.

I bought the regular one since I just want the liner notes but I was ready to spend the extra $25-$30 for the limited. It was just too hard to find.

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22. "the link is above."
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I bought the standard thinking it was was limited, but now I want the limited, shit

https://shop.urbanlegends.com/products/things-fall-apart-limited-edition-3lp


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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23. "Nah I know"
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I bought it before this post, unfortunately. Shouldn't take me forever to find where it is.

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24. "agreed"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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26. "i bought mine from uDiscover Music...they haven't shipped it yet though"
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starting to get nervous...

  

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27. "It showed up today"
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28. "Original version of Adrenaline is on the album with Dice Raw closing it "
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Instead of Beans...

  

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29. "Now with 100% more “bitch”"
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Finally got around to listening today and lo and behold, the censorship of the word “bitch” is no longer there.

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