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"new Dave special 8/26 on Netflix. "Sticks & Stones""


  

          

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Hopefully it's better than the last ones. They were hit and miss.
Aug 15th 2019
1
No. He doesn’t have to catch up
Aug 15th 2019
10
yeah the Dave needs to catch up takes are weird
Aug 15th 2019
13
It's not pushing boundaries to recycle the same tropes for generations
Aug 15th 2019
15
      The only obligation a comedian has to anyone is be funny.
Aug 16th 2019
40
           Ok.
Aug 26th 2019
55
                Wasn’t funny to you
Aug 26th 2019
58
                Uh. Okay.
Aug 26th 2019
59
                     I bet some homosexuals and trans laughed at it too
Aug 26th 2019
61
                          Um. Okay.
Aug 26th 2019
63
                               I watched all of his specials and agree with you on this completely..
Aug 27th 2019
73
                I don’t think those things are funny, but Dave’s jokes were...
Aug 27th 2019
109
I disagree. I didn't like the pimp shit but I do appreciate a comedian.
Aug 15th 2019
17
i don't even think he's consciously pushing back on anything
Aug 15th 2019
18
      That may be true but I also understand why it's tough for some ...
Aug 15th 2019
21
           there's nothing lazy at all about what he's doing
Aug 16th 2019
23
           Uhm what ? Who said he owes me anything ?
Aug 16th 2019
29
                i don't think that was directed at you personally
Aug 16th 2019
38
                Either way it was strange to respond to me but ignore ...
Aug 16th 2019
39
                only thing strange is your reaction lol
Aug 16th 2019
41
                     LOL fair points.
Aug 16th 2019
42
                          *daps*
Aug 16th 2019
43
           Depending on how old you are...
Aug 27th 2019
121
he's a 46 year-old black man.
Aug 26th 2019
51
Niggas stop growing at 35?
Aug 26th 2019
54
      Lmao.
Aug 26th 2019
60
The only thing Dave needs to do is be Dave.
Aug 30th 2019
262
      "Abnormal behavior"
Sep 02nd 2019
287
           Cool that YOU outed yourself there.....
Sep 02nd 2019
288
                Erykah Badu should've never taught ya'll dumb asses that term
Sep 02nd 2019
293
                     Yet your dumbass ain't smart enough to see how you fit it perfectly.
Sep 02nd 2019
303
                          Good luck with that "music career"
Sep 03rd 2019
305
                               * *wipes dick off* *....Try not to spit so much next time.
Sep 03rd 2019
308
                                    And now your homophobia makes total sense.
Sep 03rd 2019
310
                                         Phobia means fear, ...who fears a homosexual?
Sep 04th 2019
334
                                              Aaaaaaaaaand we're done here.
Sep 04th 2019
337
                                                   Exactly.
Sep 04th 2019
341
I'm gonna check it out.
Aug 15th 2019
2
yes
Aug 15th 2019
3
i didnt appreciate dave as a comedian until his Netflix specials
Aug 15th 2019
4
LOL what ?! Really ?
Aug 15th 2019
5
^^^^^This question
Aug 15th 2019
6
ftr, i didnt think he was bad
Aug 15th 2019
7
      Damn. That's some wild shit.
Aug 15th 2019
8
           I know Dave ain’t for everyone but umm...
Aug 15th 2019
11
                Ahaha right.
Aug 15th 2019
12
Lmao
Aug 15th 2019
9
I with you on this. His earlier standup specials weren't outstanding.
Aug 15th 2019
16
(next level) it did. it cemented him as a GREAT for me
Aug 15th 2019
19
Lmao. He wasn’t Chris Rock levels huh
Aug 16th 2019
26
I didn't think his earlier standups were great either.
Aug 16th 2019
24
      Y’all trippin’
Aug 16th 2019
25
           why does every opinion have to be approved by you?
Aug 16th 2019
36
           Oh god.
Aug 16th 2019
37
           If you don’t like how message boards work...
Aug 16th 2019
46
           the sesame street, pepe le pew bit is still an all time favorite
Aug 16th 2019
45
           The Sesame Street bit is classic
Aug 16th 2019
47
           I'm glad you found them so funny that you'd say I'm trippin
Aug 30th 2019
240
                he cant imagine a world where opinions differ from his own
Aug 31st 2019
266
                     yup and we should all, from noW own, stop replying to him.
Sep 02nd 2019
300
Lol at okp post thanos forums down snap
Aug 15th 2019
14
HAHA!
Aug 16th 2019
27
I see they finally got him into a dress...Why it gotta be a tube dress t...
Aug 15th 2019
20
Haha damn, he is kinda wearing a dress
Aug 15th 2019
22
so ironic
Aug 16th 2019
28
Dead!!!
Aug 16th 2019
30
lol
Aug 16th 2019
31
LOL My first thought was about that t-skirt
Aug 16th 2019
34
*spits out drank @ "t-skirt" * LMAO
Aug 16th 2019
35
should've went with leggings underneath
Aug 16th 2019
44
*snickers*
Aug 27th 2019
101
why is he walking like a claymation figure?
Aug 16th 2019
32
#hookerdressstruggles
Aug 16th 2019
33
I'll only wacth if people I KNOW watch first
Aug 16th 2019
48
I didn't fully vibe with the first two, but this one was pretty good
Aug 26th 2019
49
Just finished it and I'm here with it
Aug 26th 2019
66
I'm surprised he didn't catch more heat when he taped this
Aug 26th 2019
50
give it a few days.
Aug 26th 2019
57
Oh the think pieces are coming
Aug 26th 2019
62
There is no such thing as a free trip to Hawaii....
Aug 26th 2019
52
I don't agree with every take on this one
Aug 26th 2019
53
though in general
Aug 26th 2019
56
Love this shit
Aug 26th 2019
64
Love this shit
Aug 26th 2019
65
yeah im here for these as long as Netflix/Dave are
Aug 26th 2019
67
Classic Dave...
Aug 26th 2019
68
It was funny but he definitely crossed some lines
Aug 26th 2019
69
I think that was very much his point
Aug 28th 2019
171
That’s the summary of his career from Chappelle Show forward
Sep 01st 2019
274
staying in the grey
Aug 26th 2019
70
not for the easily offended
Aug 26th 2019
71
Felt a bit trite, but its aight
Aug 27th 2019
72
I kinda felt like this too...
Aug 27th 2019
80
Sounds like Dave Chappelle to me
Aug 27th 2019
85
.
Aug 27th 2019
84
so typical dave.
Aug 27th 2019
86
      I havent seen all of his stand ups
Aug 27th 2019
94
Damn...I didn’t think this was funny at all really
Aug 27th 2019
74
lol
Aug 27th 2019
78
      Yes but it didn’t seem fresh to me
Aug 27th 2019
88
           Not the bad guy, a different opinion
Aug 27th 2019
92
You clicked on my face!!!
Aug 27th 2019
75
my wife is a huge Bourdain fan...she almost turned it off
Aug 27th 2019
76
Did that setup ever come to a punchline / conclusion?
Aug 27th 2019
77
the punchline was him suggesting to his buddy from hs
Aug 27th 2019
89
*sigh*
Aug 27th 2019
90
      ?
Aug 27th 2019
91
RE: Did that setup ever come to a punchline / conclusion?
Aug 28th 2019
172
there was nothing to work through, the joke was "let's shame suicide"
Aug 27th 2019
79
Right. that joke was about shaming suicide. SMH.
Aug 27th 2019
81
I don't have it memorized verbatim
Aug 27th 2019
95
      I think part of the implication is YT privilege
Aug 27th 2019
111
           Definitely pointing out the racial angle when it comes to hardship
Aug 27th 2019
122
           it also alludes to Dave's longstanding critique of how brutal
Aug 28th 2019
131
                Great point
Aug 28th 2019
137
                     Agreed, that's probably part of it too...also, comedians find humor in e...
Aug 28th 2019
145
I think the point was you never know what someone is going through
Aug 27th 2019
83
this is what me and my wife both got out the bit
Aug 27th 2019
105
Yeah... lol... that was pretty obvious. And he said that exactly.
Aug 27th 2019
110
      He even said “ my point is”
Aug 27th 2019
112
      Right. Lol... Rap Genius should start doing comedy specials.
Aug 27th 2019
127
      so explain the funny part to me
Aug 27th 2019
117
           irony of Bourdain killing himself vs his childhood friend
Aug 27th 2019
118
           hilarious and bold, bro
Aug 27th 2019
119
                It was funny to me. And I laughed. I also miss Bourdain.
Aug 27th 2019
126
                     That’s impossible
Aug 28th 2019
133
           The funny part --->>>> *crowd laughs* <<<<---
Aug 29th 2019
189
wow
Aug 27th 2019
87
Yeah. I think it’s a reach
Aug 27th 2019
96
      Can you provide examples from his earlier work ?
Aug 27th 2019
99
      I know this question is for Legs but here is an example
Aug 27th 2019
103
      Brilliant
Aug 27th 2019
108
      LOL good one.
Aug 27th 2019
115
      Mostly the show
Aug 27th 2019
107
           Word yea I think the race angle plays a factor.
Aug 27th 2019
116
                and this is exactly the point everyone is missing in this post.
Aug 29th 2019
219
                     Nah all of that is wrong
Aug 29th 2019
223
                          it's not "wrong" or "right". It's my analysis.
Aug 29th 2019
224
                               In that case I disagree with your analysis.
Aug 29th 2019
228
                                    much better.
Aug 30th 2019
248
                                         Thank you
Aug 30th 2019
253
                                              RE: Thank you
Aug 30th 2019
255
                                                   RE: Thank you
Aug 30th 2019
261
      Exactly
Aug 27th 2019
100
i didn't take it this way
Aug 27th 2019
93
Hello, I'm the point. I think you missed me.
Aug 27th 2019
113
im reminded of this....
Aug 27th 2019
106
      RE: im reminded of this....
Aug 27th 2019
114
There's a lot of comedians fist pumping this shit.....
Aug 27th 2019
82
Only complaint was the LGBT setup...never had a punchline
Aug 27th 2019
97
He’s so good at executing
Aug 27th 2019
98
I more or less agree with this
Aug 27th 2019
120
yeah the car analogy was pretty unnecessary/aimless.
Aug 27th 2019
129
      actually it was spot on if you listen to it when he got to the T part...
Aug 28th 2019
135
           Yeah that G & L hate T because they're making the trip take forever
Aug 28th 2019
140
                RE: There wasn't a big pay-off
Aug 28th 2019
142
                     Nah, the Q hitchhiking had me rolling
Aug 28th 2019
143
                     "I really wanna get in this car."
Aug 29th 2019
178
                     Big is subjective.
Sep 01st 2019
276
Did anyone watch the prologue?
Aug 27th 2019
102
the Jussie joke seems to have landed hardest.
Aug 27th 2019
104
Even though they said they were filming here, I didn’t realize it was ...
Aug 27th 2019
124
      that part where
Aug 28th 2019
139
Dude's a master
Aug 27th 2019
123
btw did they take his first Netflix special off of Netflix?
Aug 27th 2019
125
Never mind I see it
Aug 27th 2019
128
the stuff meant to offend was pretty good.
Aug 27th 2019
130
The majority of the audience are huge Dave fans
Aug 28th 2019
132
Funny is funny, this was decent
Aug 28th 2019
134
i didn't find this hilarous. it was chuckle inducing.
Aug 28th 2019
136
Mocking white dude with a rifle across his lawn
Aug 28th 2019
138
It was aite
Aug 28th 2019
141
I watched it twice. I think it's an instant classic.
Aug 28th 2019
144
Same here! Funny or not, Left me thinking
Aug 29th 2019
234
T'was Dope and not for the PC Crowd.
Aug 28th 2019
146
definitely not lol
Aug 28th 2019
147
Absolutely. A great Comedic Commentary on Cancel Culture and PC Culture
Sep 03rd 2019
316
this from the guy who's against LGBT rights
Aug 29th 2019
185
      What are LGBTQIA rights?
Sep 03rd 2019
317
           don't ask stupid questions
Sep 04th 2019
332
                ^^ As usual. Nothing.
Sep 04th 2019
340
I'm done with "Comedian OUTRAGE CULTURE"
Aug 28th 2019
148
lmao
Aug 28th 2019
149
This was a comedy special not a debate.
Aug 28th 2019
152
      True
Aug 28th 2019
154
      they were like, sychopathic super fans
Aug 28th 2019
156
           His description is a great example of why Dave made this special
Aug 28th 2019
157
                exactly. i had to laugh.
Aug 28th 2019
158
                YOU CLICKED ON MY FACE!!!
Aug 28th 2019
159
                     Dave won
Aug 28th 2019
166
I'm kinda in this line & lmao @
Aug 28th 2019
150
You don't see hypocrisy in the cancel culture coming for Kevin Hart
Aug 28th 2019
151
I think it was less about "cancelling" Kevin Hart.
Aug 28th 2019
160
I think it was more about...the group you are offending
Aug 28th 2019
161
      agree on most of this but
Aug 28th 2019
162
           RE: in the sports world
Aug 28th 2019
163
                even if the analogy is flawed, you're still wrong
Aug 28th 2019
164
                     Yup. If you can make a ton of money you will work with anyone
Aug 29th 2019
180
I think its about black comedians getting too powerful and making too...
Aug 29th 2019
179
cool think piece, bro
Aug 28th 2019
155
correct
Aug 29th 2019
187
perfectly said.
Aug 29th 2019
220
The Epilogue was great
Aug 28th 2019
153
i bet half these dim bulbs in this post...
Aug 28th 2019
165
TBH I didn't even know there was one
Aug 29th 2019
204
Aziza works very hard to appease his audiences. Dave seems to have zero ...
Aug 28th 2019
170
Yeah, opening up with 1999 was the tell tale sign
Aug 29th 2019
205
The diff for me is Aziz is phony & Dave is incapable of being phony
Aug 29th 2019
175
      Aw I don't find Aziz phony at all.
Aug 29th 2019
177
           I mean dude wrote a book on relationships and how to treat women
Aug 29th 2019
186
           Fair enough but I never read the book. Nor was I there for the date.
Aug 29th 2019
188
           Essentially I have no idea who the real Aziz is & it appears...
Aug 29th 2019
190
                Word OK. I get what you're saying but ...
Aug 29th 2019
191
                I would think that if they were subtle changes...
Aug 29th 2019
195
                Co-sign this...
Aug 29th 2019
199
                It's a little Kanye-ish
Aug 29th 2019
202
The best joke teller alive in the world
Aug 28th 2019
167
Damn you sound like you can’t even form your own opinion
Aug 28th 2019
168
Because I'm not offended...
Aug 28th 2019
169
      I didn’t find anything in the entire stand-up offensive
Aug 28th 2019
173
           You seem triggered, rest assured my comment is not...
Aug 29th 2019
182
                LOL @ this see-through art stance you’re taking
Aug 29th 2019
222
                     So, which is it, my opinion is disingenuous or I can't form one?
Aug 29th 2019
226
                          Wow...
Aug 29th 2019
233
                               Sticks & Stones
Aug 30th 2019
235
                                    Lol
Aug 30th 2019
238
People are just too stupid with regards to comedy.
Oct 14th 2019
367
Just didn't find a lot of it particularly funny.
Aug 28th 2019
174
A few shining moments but some went on too long.
Aug 29th 2019
176
I think the Daphne thing was pointing out how..
Aug 29th 2019
181
The Daphne bit was a setup to the unexpected end
Sep 01st 2019
275
I mostly laughed at the 25 minutes I saw. But it is hard to square
Aug 29th 2019
183
Yea pretty much exactly this.
Aug 29th 2019
184
      what is his stance on Ts...other than he finds being
Aug 29th 2019
192
      I wish Nas would make another Illmatic
Aug 29th 2019
197
           ? I never said "I wish" anything. Just made observations. But do you pla...
Aug 29th 2019
198
I laughed HARD at certain points
Aug 29th 2019
193
I think he doubled down because he doesn’t give a fuck
Aug 29th 2019
194
      I mean yea. And that's his right and all but in this day and age ...
Aug 29th 2019
196
      Who is we? Those who like his comedy will applaud
Aug 29th 2019
200
      We is the majority of the country who hates Individual 1's America.
Aug 29th 2019
203
      Well I’m applauding him
Aug 29th 2019
210
      Dave needs to do what he feels
Aug 29th 2019
218
      this is a simplistic, binary falsehood.
Aug 29th 2019
221
           y’all always jump to Trump comparisons.
Aug 29th 2019
225
                when it quacks like a duck...
Aug 29th 2019
227
                     Who I saying you can’t have an opinion.
Aug 29th 2019
230
                          u spent your whole life not knowing what an opinion is?
Aug 30th 2019
252
                          WTF?
Aug 31st 2019
268
                               lol @ him being better than this
Sep 01st 2019
277
                                    glad u said it *chucklechuckle*
Sep 02nd 2019
294
      we shouldnt be
Aug 29th 2019
215
      post #51...folks expecting him to transform into some uber-liberal PC...
Aug 29th 2019
209
           The audacity of these broke woke fucks..lol.
Aug 29th 2019
211
Bottom line is his trans jokes weren’t funny enough...
Aug 29th 2019
201
I don’t like CK so that part was meh to me
Aug 29th 2019
206
it's called wanting to see where an "intelligent" comedian is going
Aug 29th 2019
216
Nah those jokes were funny
Aug 29th 2019
207
Lmao so every joke in a show is automatically funny because it made it i...
Aug 29th 2019
212
      No, but Chappelle is not so weak that he would have to use a joke
Aug 29th 2019
214
RE: Bottom line is his trans jokes weren’t funny enough... <- to you
Aug 29th 2019
208
      Uh...yeah? Everyone is giving their opinion right?
Aug 29th 2019
213
           That’s cool but no one is forcing you to keep watching his specials
Aug 29th 2019
231
Some of the jokes were kinda wack, but I felt the theme of the show
Aug 29th 2019
217
.
Aug 30th 2019
236
Breitbart Loves it!!!
Aug 29th 2019
229
I had actually FORGOTTEN why he left Chapelle show
Aug 29th 2019
232
I can’t control whole likes me - Obama
Aug 30th 2019
251
*shrug* they love anything that upsets liberals
Aug 30th 2019
237
Exactly.
Aug 30th 2019
242
yup. Liberalism can be attacked from both the left & the right
Aug 30th 2019
245
      WHOA there fam! That's too much work for OKP.
Sep 01st 2019
272
thanks for posting... he probably didn't want it with trump
Aug 30th 2019
239
Trump at this point is kind of a layup joke
Aug 30th 2019
243
haha totally agreed however even a SINGLE ill trump joke
Aug 30th 2019
258
      his best joke on the recent mess was in another special
Sep 04th 2019
336
Ain’t no one trying to hear 5011 more Trump jokes
Aug 30th 2019
244
shiiet trump's family tree is a racist goldmine of comedy
Aug 30th 2019
259
RE: thanks for posting... he probably didn't want it with trump
Aug 30th 2019
247
everything doesn't always have to be about Trump
Aug 30th 2019
249
the kayne MAGA crack was hilarious
Aug 30th 2019
260
he talks about why he doesn't talk about Trump in the epilogue
Aug 30th 2019
250
      Basically it's not about Trump, it's about the people that voted him in
Aug 30th 2019
254
      yeah i realized i didn't watch it so i'll check it
Aug 30th 2019
256
Lmao :/
Aug 30th 2019
241
and you took the bait.
Aug 30th 2019
246
You are precisely the 'audience' he was referring to
Sep 01st 2019
278
duh. tha fuck i care if he was referring to me?
Sep 02nd 2019
295
As my pops would say
Sep 04th 2019
345
re-watching the whole thing again I almost feel like the main part...
Aug 30th 2019
257
I thought it was funny
Aug 30th 2019
263
I'm torn
Aug 31st 2019
264
About 40% of the jokes could have been done by Larry The Cable Guy
Aug 31st 2019
265
I LIKE Larry the Cable guy, but N'awww I don't see it.
Sep 01st 2019
280
big difference between pushing boundaries and cheap shock value
Aug 31st 2019
267
LOL if you don't think it's funny that is enough, no need to add on.
Aug 31st 2019
269
      cmon...
Sep 03rd 2019
323
           Wait a min
Sep 03rd 2019
331
Funny as shit!
Aug 31st 2019
270
Finished it earlier. Dem liars/accusers ain't shit for.....
Aug 31st 2019
271
The perspective of an HONEST
Sep 01st 2019
273
Tip: Sell you worthless stuff man
Sep 01st 2019
279
      Yo these wrong thread comments are wild
Sep 01st 2019
281
      AHAHAHA,
Sep 02nd 2019
289
comedy writer Rae Sanni hammered it home on Twitter
Sep 01st 2019
282
Leave it to you....
Sep 01st 2019
283
lol
Sep 02nd 2019
286
finally, another Dave's not woke enough take
Sep 01st 2019
284
he doesn't need to be woke. he just needs to shut the fuck about LGBTQ
Sep 02nd 2019
299
      "he needs" lol
Sep 02nd 2019
302
      Naw Dumbmali, he can joke on alphabet ninjaz just as much as anyone else...
Sep 03rd 2019
309
I actually agree with this part...
Sep 01st 2019
285
equating the fight homosexuals have with the fight
Sep 02nd 2019
290
      That's not what's happening here.
Sep 02nd 2019
292
      BLACK GAY PEOPLE EXIST
Sep 02nd 2019
298
           And guess what Black Gay people don't run $hit
Sep 02nd 2019
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                https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif
Sep 04th 2019
335
a slur said by white people
Sep 02nd 2019
291
No one associated with A Black Lady Sketch Show should tell DC how
Sep 03rd 2019
312
      so she has no point because you dont like her comedy? that's wild
Sep 03rd 2019
313
           What's wild is an unfunny person telling a funny person what's funny.
Sep 03rd 2019
326
                you might do well to read her words again
Sep 03rd 2019
328
The reviews are in - some white power folks love Dave's HOT TAKES
Sep 02nd 2019
296
Oh nooo!!! the Black Joe rogan sycophantic audience is going to
Sep 02nd 2019
297
So anything that makes “libs” mad is evil?
Sep 03rd 2019
304
Same ppl who'll spike their own healthcare if it means owning the libs
Sep 03rd 2019
320
I'm not sure I agree with, because bad people like it, it must be bad.
Sep 03rd 2019
306
the quotes you provided pretty much show why it shouldn't matter
Sep 03rd 2019
321
      Wasn’t it execs in the room that made Dave leave?
Sep 03rd 2019
324
           ahh.. I don't remember
Sep 03rd 2019
325
                My coworker said Dave sounded old
Sep 03rd 2019
327
This thread proves Dave WINS
Sep 03rd 2019
307
great comedy has one job.
Sep 03rd 2019
311
his last couple NetFlix Drops
Sep 03rd 2019
314
I wish I could be this fuckin silly every day
Sep 03rd 2019
315
FACTS.
Sep 03rd 2019
318
Dave won a long time ago
Sep 03rd 2019
319
y'all really let the facebook algorithm tell you what's important
Sep 03rd 2019
322
see ya in the next post about the thing you don't care about
Sep 03rd 2019
329
      people whining about shit they've made up in their heads
Sep 03rd 2019
330
Unfortunately :(
Sep 04th 2019
333
"Unfortunately I enjoyed it" just sounds crazy to me.
Sep 04th 2019
338
      oh, it's cool. just bracing myself for the name calling....lol
Sep 04th 2019
344
Think-piece culture sucks.
Sep 04th 2019
339
RE: Think-piece culture sucks.
Sep 04th 2019
342
      ha.
Sep 04th 2019
343
      wow.
Sep 17th 2019
346
i liked it more on the second watch
Sep 18th 2019
347
and the plot thickens (swipe)
Oct 13th 2019
348
has nothing to do with Dave.
Oct 14th 2019
349
Sounds like she was honored to be in his show.
Oct 14th 2019
350
RE: has nothing to do with Dave.
Oct 14th 2019
352
The reason most people know who she is IS because of
Oct 14th 2019
356
absolute zero on Dave
Oct 15th 2019
372
(just chill) i believe everything Dave said about Daphne
Oct 14th 2019
351
RIP
Oct 14th 2019
353
How dare you...
Oct 14th 2019
355
Well said. And RIP Daphne.
Oct 14th 2019
357
exactly. Her suicide is not his fault. However, words have power.
Oct 14th 2019
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      This is well said, too. I agree.
Oct 14th 2019
359
      Yeah but she countered your point about punching down
Oct 14th 2019
360
      yeah, no
Oct 14th 2019
361
      isn't everyone vulnerable?
Oct 14th 2019
363
      semantics isn't my game. you can play alone
Oct 14th 2019
364
      not playing (semantics), but ill educate myself more
Oct 14th 2019
369
      the average life expectancy of a trans woman is between 30-35 yrs old.
Oct 14th 2019
365
           good point.
Oct 14th 2019
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           wow
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           That's not what this report says at all, lol
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                umm, Reeq? lol.. this is a bad look if true.
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                Reeq?
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                     all twitter and no real life makes reeq a dull boy
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                You should read this.
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                     I've seen this before, and it kinda draws attention to its own flaws
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      We have no idea why daphne committed suicide
Oct 15th 2019
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no it doesnt (RIP still tho)
Oct 14th 2019
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have dave and the people who love this special
Oct 14th 2019
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dave lowkey did some tokenism shit.
Oct 14th 2019
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Not even lowkey. That's exactly what he did.
Oct 15th 2019
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Nah that didn't happen
Oct 15th 2019
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Tokenism....or challenging groupthink?
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      both
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      Thank you
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      except it's not "censorship"
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      It is censorship if actions are taken to suppress his speech
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           GOVERNMENTS, private institutions, corporations.
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           Governments aren't friing people from their jobs or cancelling appearanc...
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                Nah tho
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                Just ignore a literal definition because it doesn't fit your world view
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                     it ain't got shit to do with the definition. it has everything to do wit...
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                jesus christ these dudes are losers
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           ... how was Dave's voice suppressed at *all*, lmao?
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                thankfully there is a word called 'precedence'
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                what backlash has dave received?
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                     for a celebrity, constant negative press
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                          lying ass
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                               yep, you definitely cannot read
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                                    got $100 that says you won't do shit
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                                         you actually have $100?
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                                              and I still have $100 because you didn't shit
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                I'm talking about the definition of cencorship, not Dave's personal stor...
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                     you literally can't spell censorship
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      I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement.
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      RE: I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement.
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           RE: I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement.
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                Are you trans?
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                     imagine being this much of a loser every day
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                          imagine being illiterate
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      you notice how no one has any answer for the original question?
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they're unwilling and unable to answer. huh.
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What's the original question ?
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      it's in my first reply.
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      there's a question mark on it, if that makes it easier to find.
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           Oh 362
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                cool, keep at it
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this is both silly & fucked up
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      it's fucked up to ask what you're doing to help people?
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I liked it...
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you know this place is dead as fuck if someone like Rjcc can still be a
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Mark Twain Prize for American Humor (link to ceremony)
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Didn't Jay Leno win that award too? Congrats to that big homie too
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Dude I'm sorry buy Jay Leno was fucking hilarious
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      I wouldn't describe him as fearless and uncompromising, even then.
Apr 21st 2020
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Brennan's Half Baked story was pretty funny
Jan 14th 2020
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RIGHT! I don't understand why they bash it so much
Jan 15th 2020
'Cuban B' alone puts it in the hall of fame
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      "Samson? It's Shelia....mama fell SHUTUP BITCH!"
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RIGHT! I don't understand why they bash it so much
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Though laid on rather thick, it was also to see a brother get so much
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Yeah, it really hit me when K. won the pulitzer for DAMN
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They playerhaters bruh
Jan 15th 2020
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just watched it on Netflix last night, overall I thought it was great...
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Nah that shit was kinda live
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      Che’s special was hilarious. Didn’t know he was the funny
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I LOVED it...
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2 Emmys. gives shot out to critics
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Not only did he win - he was able to angrily whine too!
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lol not like they asked him about the nba playoffs
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....the critics are also the people who gave him the award
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      ^Sees it
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      RE: ^Sees it
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      He says to critics "Shut the fuck up for ever"
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           RE: He says to critics "Shut the fuck up for ever"
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                ^I see that
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      I'm sure a "No Dave, I will not STFU" thinkpiece
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           HYPERBOLIC
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                thanks, twitter
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      an award he basically said we shouldn't give a fuck about
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That’s the best time to tell y’all critics to stfu
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      lol
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well deserved. and he deserved those 2 emmys too.
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Cardi B won 2019 Rap Album Of The Year at The Grammys
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      that's deep, bro
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           lol
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           in case you dont know about the Command+F function on a Mac
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           lmao
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           you introduced awards as a metric implying quality of a thing
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lol @ y'all's mans
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you're an idiot if you catch covid because of joe rogan
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The level of confidence in "Dave's retreats"
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heavy smoker tho....not gonna lie, I laughed...
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Out of curiosity
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      guess I could have said 'top/front of the line service'
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I love Dave but you could see this coming a mile away.
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      I swear some people are trying to catch it
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           people just out there, every day
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                It's egomaniacs, narcissits AND the working poor
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                     that's the thing though folks at dave's level are corporations with a lo...
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                          except Dave doesn't live in texas
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                          Doing stand-up sets at a barbecue place isn’t that
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                               We have pro football, basketball and hockey teams traveling back and...
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                                    Yes and those are ego maniacal narcissistic and greedy people too
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                                    like I said it comes down to money like everything else, I'm watching...
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                                         Money's the root or something......
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                                              Agreed
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                                    Yes, Dave Chappelle is as silly as Tilman Fertitta
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see he's fuckin fine and he's even richer
Feb 12th 2021
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Yes Dave. We are a buncha pussies
Feb 12th 2021
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ayyy new dave
Feb 12th 2021
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Yeah...... he don't be reading the room much....
Feb 12th 2021
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Dude is GONE
Feb 12th 2021
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Dave is right
Feb 12th 2021
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Can't he just go off and get an editor and write a book
Feb 12th 2021
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What was the point of this?
Feb 12th 2021
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      Bitter and being enabled
Feb 12th 2021
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Dave asked everyone to boycott his show...
Feb 12th 2021
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Dave asking them to boycott is literally minding his own business.
Feb 12th 2021
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      the act of them boycotting netflix
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           Him asking them to is.
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                nothing you're saying is adding to the conversation
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                     at all. but being deliberately obtuse is their schtick.
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Hit dogs'll holla
Feb 12th 2021
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haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love
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      Tautologies going tauto-t
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people that are mad don't know many old black men
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1. "Hopefully it's better than the last ones. They were hit and miss."
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Dave still hasn't/hadn't caught up to where we're at as a society. His comedy used to be progressive and while he was trying to catch up in his last two specials, he was still somewhat caught in the past in his views...

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10. "No. He doesn’t have to catch up"
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His comedy and his views are what make him special

We need to stop trying to force comedians to “get with the times”

Especially comedians with loyal fans. Stop trying to make Dave into a 20 something year old vegan. He’s hot wings and cigarette smoke.

IMO it’s the viewers who have to check themselves. Comedy should always push boundaries regardless if we like it or not.

and I say that as someone who doesn’t like some of these off brand new comedians who I find terrible. It’s not for me and it’s cool.

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13. "yeah the Dave needs to catch up takes are weird "
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let some of these thinkpieces tell it, Dave is a relic who should take notes from Hanna Gadsby on where comedy in 2019 is supposed to be

  

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15. "It's not pushing boundaries to recycle the same tropes for generations"
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And comedians do need to get with the times, like everyone else. Entertainers, politicians, whoever.
They (comedians) love to complain about "pc culture" or "outrage culture" or whatever the fuck, which is just a stylized way of saying "I want to be able to say whatever the fuck I want about the groups of people who have been historically oppressed and have that be okay."
And his comedy is much bigger than jokes about gay and trans people. I'd hope you see that.
Dave's still vocally homophobic (as we saw in the Daniel Caesar debacle). "He looks so gay" That shit is lame as fuck.
Punching down is pushing no boundaries at all. Its pulling the boundaries tighter.

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40. "The only obligation a comedian has to anyone is be funny. "
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55. "Ok."
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Homophobia ain't funny though.
Transphobia ain't funny.
Not in the way Dave was doing it.

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58. "Wasn’t funny to you"
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59. "Uh. Okay."
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I'm sure that shit is hilarious to homophobes tho

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61. "I bet some homosexuals and trans laughed at it too"
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Trans and homosexuals aren’t some protected group that can’t get joked.

FOH.

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63. "Um. Okay."
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Some black men allow their white girlfriends say "nigga."
And some people think cucumbers taste better pickled.
But that's essentially your post. And just a "hunch" that you have.

But, most things can be made fun of if done from angles that aren't demeaning, that aren't trying to make the unnacceptable accepted, that aren't contributing to the oppression of marginalized folks, that aren't punching down.
Dave was punching down.
And no one said they were "protected"
What was said is that Dave makes homophobic and transphobic jokes/statements.
That's not even remotely the same as saying "homosexuals and transpeople are off limits as subject matter"

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73. "I watched all of his specials and agree with you on this completely.."
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I think he's always psuedo-masked his homophobia on stage and it's apparent but folks just lap it up simply because it's Chappelle.

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109. "I don’t think those things are funny, but Dave’s jokes were..."
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funny to me.

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17. "I disagree. I didn't like the pimp shit but I do appreciate a comedian."
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thoughtfully pushing back on PC Culture when few progressive types have the balls to do it.

Being a truth teller and PC has to conflict at times.


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18. "i don't even think he's consciously pushing back on anything"
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one side is acting like he's taking a stand and the other is acting like he's stuck in the past but don't feel like he even has much interest in the whole "pc culture" debate

Dave's just gonna say what he feels. As he should. People are free to have and express their problems with it, but I hate the idea that his views *need* to fit within a certain box.

  

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21. "That may be true but I also understand why it's tough for some ..."
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... to reconcile someone who in his prime was seen as part of that larger black progressive movement, being so ... I dunno, lazy ? laissez faire ? about the issues that are at the forefront of progressive discussion in the modern day. Like I get he's just trying to make people laugh, and I'm not personally offended. But I can understand why folks would be.

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23. "there's nothing lazy at all about what he's doing"
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people seem to act like Dave owes them something, or has some sort of obligation to be a certain way. if there's anything consistent about Chappelle, it's not bending to people's expectations, and being true to his own shit

  

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29. "Uhm what ? Who said he owes me anything ?"
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This was a really strange response.

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38. "i don't think that was directed at you personally"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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39. "Either way it was strange to respond to me but ignore ..."
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... the entire context of what I said, like not even address it at all lol. He may as well have just made a completely independent post.

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41. "only thing strange is your reaction lol"
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i just re-read both of them and we're both talking about 'people's' expectations of dave.

dunno you how you interpreted that as 'fuck off, dave doesn't owe you, shit'

we're just talking, man. I'm not trying to fight here lol

>This was a really strange response.

  

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42. "LOL fair points."
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My bad.


>i just re-read both of them and we're both talking about
>'people's' expectations of dave.
>
>dunno you how you interpreted that as 'fuck off, dave doesn't
>owe you, shit'
>
>we're just talking, man. I'm not trying to fight here lol
>
>>This was a really strange response.
>

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43. "*daps*"
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121. "Depending on how old you are..."
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The way Dave thinks isn't too far fetched. Im 44. I have seen a lot of stuff change and stay the same. Honestly, idgaf about most of the whiney shit going on today. If it doesn't affect me, do you. I see all the agendas out here, but I got other stuff to do.

I'm a lurker. What you have just posted must have been that awesome!

  

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51. "he's a 46 year-old black man."
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54. "Niggas stop growing at 35?"
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60. "Lmao. "
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We get it, you are super progressive and ahead of the times.

Dave ain't where you are.. I’m sure he will address you and yours in this new special.

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262. "The only thing Dave needs to do is be Dave."
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You can miss us with that convoluted shit you talkin.

Dave has no obligation to accept abnormal behaviour, bottom line.

You psuedo-progressives are a funny bunch.




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287. ""Abnormal behavior""
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Cool that you outed yourself there

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288. "Cool that YOU outed yourself there....."
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I appreciate you for playing.





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293. "Erykah Badu should've never taught ya'll dumb asses that term"
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"bitchazz ninja"
Lol. You can't be serious.

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303. "Yet your dumbass ain't smart enough to see how you fit it perfectly."
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Keep being stupid.
Its better this way...


https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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305. "Good luck with that "music career""
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I hope that shit takes off for you and you get... you know, at least one supporter on bandcamp before you turn 50.

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308. "* *wipes dick off* *....Try not to spit so much next time."
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*zips up*








https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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310. "And now your homophobia makes total sense."
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always suppressing your urges toward that "abnormal behavior."
best to you.

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334. "Phobia means fear, ...who fears a homosexual?"
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Try again.












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Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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337. "Aaaaaaaaaand we're done here."
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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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341. "Exactly."
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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2. "I'm gonna check it out."
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3. "yes"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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4. "i didnt appreciate dave as a comedian until his Netflix specials"
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i look forward to this one

  

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5. "LOL what ?! Really ?"
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6. "^^^^^This question"
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n/m

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7. "ftr, i didnt think he was bad"
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and im talking Stand-Up Dave here, not Comedy Central Dave

i just didnt get the hype, his coveted DC stand-up included

the Netflix specials made me a believer though

  

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8. "Damn. That's some wild shit."
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Your position on this is pretty much the polar opposite of everybody, I think. Haha.

I'm not trying to be snarky either. I've just literally never known anyone who felt this way about Old Dave vs. New Dave.

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11. "I know Dave ain’t for everyone but umm..."
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ionno man.. lol.

OKP is back.

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12. "Ahaha right."
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>OKP is back.

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9. "Lmao"
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16. "I with you on this. His earlier standup specials weren't outstanding. "
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Was no where near a Chris Rock level at the time.

Folks like it wasn't the Show that catapulted dude to Upper Echelon of black comedy.

His standup reached the next level post the show.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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19. "(next level) it did. it cemented him as a GREAT for me"
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26. "Lmao. He wasn’t Chris Rock levels huh"
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No one is saying he was one of the best stand ups ever but umm... his shit was funny as hell.

Y’all funny too.

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24. "I didn't think his earlier standups were great either."
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I was surprised his show was as funny as it was.

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25. "Y’all trippin’"
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His standups were hilarious

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36. "why does every opinion have to be approved by you?"
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OKP should give you and your minions your own lobby

sheesh

stfu please

  

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37. "Oh god."
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46. "If you don’t like how message boards work..."
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log off

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45. "the sesame street, pepe le pew bit is still an all time favorite "
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47. "The Sesame Street bit is classic"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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240. "I'm glad you found them so funny that you'd say I'm trippin"
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for disagreeing.

That's clearly a lot of joy, and I'm happy for you.

Genuinely.

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266. "he cant imagine a world where opinions differ from his own"
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to him, anything outside of his world view must mean you're trolling

his feeble mind simply cannot comprehend it

imagine dealing with that idiot in real life

working with him

or being married to him

or him being your father

jesus.

god bless his family, wife and kids

  

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300. "yup and we should all, from noW own, stop replying to him. "
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legsdiamond is officially cancelled

LOL

D

  

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14. "Lol at okp post thanos forums down snap"
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27. "HAHA!"
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nm

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20. "I see they finally got him into a dress...Why it gotta be a tube dress t..."
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22. "Haha damn, he is kinda wearing a dress "
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I'm still gonna check this out. A thousand percent chance I'm watching it. I love Dave.

  

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28. "so ironic"
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30. "Dead!!! "
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31. "lol"
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34. "LOL My first thought was about that t-skirt"
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Always looking forward to more Dave

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A lot of you players ain't okay.

We would have been better off with an okaycivics board instead of an okayactivist board

  

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35. "*spits out drank @ "t-skirt" * LMAO"
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>Always looking forward to more Dave


"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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44. "should've went with leggings underneath"
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complete the look

  

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101. "*snickers*"
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32. "why is he walking like a claymation figure?"
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33. "#hookerdressstruggles"
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48. "I'll only wacth if people I KNOW watch first"
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And they say it's funny and TIGHT.

The last batch of specials was very uninteresting to me.

But remember: He got paid upfront - my decision will not affect him.

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49. "I didn't fully vibe with the first two, but this one was pretty good"
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IMO he did a pretty good job of responding to the anger over his trans jokes from the last go around, as well as dancing around the issue of #MeToo in a pretty clever and stand-up lifer kind of way. Him wearing the construction jumpsuit definitely doesn't distract from the "get off my lawn" vibe of some of it, but I was hysterical at some of these jokes in a way I don't recall for his first two specials.


Maybe part of it was having no idea this was coming out when it was and just pressing play when I saw it in my queue at 1AM so I had much lower/no expectations, but I really liked this special.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
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66. "Just finished it and I'm here with it"
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Definitely better than the last two to me. And I think it was better written, a bit more empathetic, and funnier.

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50. "I'm surprised he didn't catch more heat when he taped this"
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Dave tripled down.

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57. "give it a few days."
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62. "Oh the think pieces are coming "
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Fuck em
This shit was hilarious

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52. "There is no such thing as a free trip to Hawaii...."
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GOAT Status Certified!!!!!!

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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53. "I don't agree with every take on this one "
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But, as his standup over the last few years has implicitly/explicitly implied, that doesn't mean I can't appreciate it as a whole and give credit to what I *do* like about it.

I definitely laughed out loud a lot here, and he's still one of the most thought-provoking comedians of our time.

www.twitter.com/seandammit

  

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56. "though in general"
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I think the outrage against "the outrage" (cancel culture) is often a strawman, his one bit where he points his finger at the audience was the funniest shit in the show to me.

just the way it was delivered and set up... perfect comedy

  

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64. "Love this shit"
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Love the pivot in his comedy too

  

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65. "Love this shit"
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Love the pivot in his comedy too

  

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67. "yeah im here for these as long as Netflix/Dave are"
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another stellar entry in the collection.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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68. "Classic Dave..."
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..tough topics, but he's always been fearless.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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69. "It was funny but he definitely crossed some lines"
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171. "I think that was very much his point "
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274. "That’s the summary of his career from Chappelle Show forward "
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Peace,

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http://wutangbook.com

  

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70. "staying in the grey"
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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eyOkypzFfHo

I loved it again. Asking questions. Commenting. Not holding back for fear of backlash. I love that he seems to be trolling the idea that saying something that folks don't agree with should be outlawed in a country where you can forreal say 'nigga' all over the place and Donald Trump forreal had about half of the country vote for him to be forreal president. Recently. And he's still prez. And he might win again. And I'm supposed to broken up about some shit that Dave says if/when I don't agree with him? Shiiiiiiiid. Are we that accustomed to tailoring our content to echo chambers now?

And yeah, he's doing his version of 'tackling' heavy topics from his angle. And he seems sincere enough which is wildly risky now cuz we live in a cloak and dagger universe now. Folks will say harsh shit ABOUT you when you're not around but won't sack up and say anything of that sort directly to you. Well wait...unless it's online...then, errbody's gangstafiiiiiiiiiiiiied!.

The best thing is that he seems to understand that he might be wrong about some pieces of what he's saying. That too is a wild stance to walk around with now. I swear I'm surrounded by folks who are finished products and geniuses if you listen to them talk about themselves. And of course, almost everyone around them is an idiot per them.

  

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71. "not for the easily offended"
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I wasn't offended but I didn't quite laugh a lot either

he kept stepping over the line of good taste just to shock and awe people, but the crowd loved it

  

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72. "Felt a bit trite, but its aight"
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80. "I kinda felt like this too..."
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>he kept stepping over the line of good taste just to shock and
>awe people, but the crowd loved it

jokes about sexually assaulting children can only go so far

  

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85. "Sounds like Dave Chappelle to me"
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Dude has always pushed the limits.

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84. "."
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86. "so typical dave."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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94. "I havent seen all of his stand ups"
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of the last three from Netflix, this is the most inflammatory, with more emphasis on going to bat for Louis CK and joking about violating kids

  

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74. "Damn...I didn’t think this was funny at all really"
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I’ll give it another try because I was tired but I honestly didn’t laugh much.

It seemed to be missing something for me.

He was covering a lot of the same shit as the last two specials and it came off kind of like a rapper with nothing else to talk about.

Nothing too original and seemed a bit predictable.

Kind of sad I feel that way because I love Dave and was looking forward to it.

I didn’t even feel like he crossed the line that much... just kind of *shrugs*

  

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78. "lol"
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Most comedians come back to the same topics.

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88. "Yes but it didn’t seem fresh to me"
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*shrugs*

I’ll be the bad guy I guess

  

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92. "Not the bad guy, a different opinion"
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75. "You clicked on my face!!! "
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Dave doing the heavy lifting for a lot of comedians with this one.

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76. "my wife is a huge Bourdain fan...she almost turned it off"
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i told her let him work through the whole bit
i think that exchange is a microcosm of todays climate

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77. "Did that setup ever come to a punchline / conclusion?"
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Anthony Bourdain had an amazing job and took his own life, the failed law student dude works at Foot Locker at 45 and hasn't considered suicide? That was it?

  

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89. "the punchline was him suggesting to his buddy from hs"
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that maybe he should.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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90. "*sigh*"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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91. "?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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172. "RE: Did that setup ever come to a punchline / conclusion?"
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>
>Anthony Bourdain had an amazing job and took his own life, the
>failed law student dude works at Foot Locker at 45 and hasn't
>considered suicide? That was it?

I thought the ultimate conclusion was 'you don't know what folks are going through forreal even if you know a zoomed out version of their situation. One guy seemed to have a great life. The other didn't. BUT WE DON'T REALLY KNOW! WE LOVE TO THINK WE DO BUT WE DON'T'.

  

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79. "there was nothing to work through, the joke was "let's shame suicide""
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his whole game plan was "how far can I go before people will stop laughing?" starting with a bit about how good Anthony Bourdain's life was

  

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81. "Right. that joke was about shaming suicide. SMH. "
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So many of the takes like this I see on twitter have me convinced that Dave is doing the most important, revelatory work in comedy right now.

That was not a joke at Anthony Bourdain's expense. It also misses the whole set up with the 1999 lyrics.



  

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95. "I don't have it memorized verbatim"
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"he had an amazing job and killed himself. a guy I knew went to law school, got with a woman, divorced, lost half of everything and it never occurred to him to kill himself"

explain the genius important, revelatory thing I missed

  

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111. "I think part of the implication is YT privilege"
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i.e. why is this happening to me

That was also part of the bit about being poor and being broke

That's the joke

A black man, that had everything and lost it...never even thought about suicide

A YT man, who seemingly had everything...killed himself...because...?

That's the joke.

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122. "Definitely pointing out the racial angle when it comes to hardship"
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Was it a tasteful joke? Nope

But that’s Dave.

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131. "it also alludes to Dave's longstanding critique of how brutal"
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entertainment is to entertainers.
This is the dude who walked away from a bigass check and got called crazy/suicidal becasue of it.

Joke works on a few levels.

  

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137. "Great point"
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I saw Dave live right after he got back from Africa and he was pissed. Hilarious, but pissed off. Joked about how his wife called him and asked him how long he had been smoking crack because she read it in Time magazine.

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145. "Agreed, that's probably part of it too...also, comedians find humor in e..."
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comedians find humor in everything

A friend suggested the comedians in cars w/Eddie Murphy

I've never watched that series

but one point that stood out, in relation to this subject/joke

I think Seinfeld brought up finding humor in death, and making jokes about funerals

"That was enough of him anyway"

to the point of the subject/joke being in bad taste

that's comedy.

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83. "I think the point was you never know what someone is going through"
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and people have different tolerance levels.

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105. "this is what me and my wife both got out the bit"
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110. "Yeah... lol... that was pretty obvious. And he said that exactly."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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112. "He even said “ my point is”"
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before saying his point.

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127. "Right. Lol... Rap Genius should start doing comedy specials."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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117. "so explain the funny part to me"
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Anthony Bourdain committed suicide

*crowd laughs*

my black friend didn't

*crowd laughs*

okp: he said you never know what anyone is going through, don't you get it

  

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118. "irony of Bourdain killing himself vs his childhood friend"
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Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

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119. "hilarious and bold, bro"
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126. "It was funny to me. And I laughed. I also miss Bourdain."
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Shocking.

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133. "That’s impossible"
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189. "The funny part --->>>> *crowd laughs* <<<<---"
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>Anthony Bourdain committed suicide
>
>*crowd laughs*
>
>my black friend didn't
>
>*crowd laughs*
>
>okp: he said you never know what anyone is going through,
>don't you get it

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87. "wow"
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lol

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96. "Yeah. I think it’s a reach"
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Just seems like some folks aren’t getting what Dave is doing which isn’t new.. he’s always been above and beyond as a comedian.

If you want to find controversy it’s real easy when watching Dave because he’s always finding ways of spinning serious topics into jokes

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99. "Can you provide examples from his earlier work ?"
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>Just seems like some folks aren’t getting what Dave is
>doing which isn’t new.. he’s always been above and beyond
>as a comedian.
>
>If you want to find controversy it’s real easy when watching
>Dave because he’s always finding ways of spinning serious
>topics into jokes

Honest question cause I'm trying to think back and I can't really come up with anything that anyone would really consider "offensive" or harmful to a select group of people. Like the most egregious material I can come up with is like the baby selling crack bit from "Killin' 'Em Softly," or Wayne Brady choking a bitch lol and it's like ... I dunno, that's not really comparable to suicide jokes and gay jokes.

But I could certainly be forgetting a bunch of material from the show or his early standup so that's why I'm asking. Cause in my mind Dave's never been the type of comedian who had to resort to shock value or cheap gimmickry to get laughs.

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103. "I know this question is for Legs but here is an example"
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I'm sure some would call this blaming the victim



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108. "Brilliant"
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115. "LOL good one."
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Forgot about that one. And yea I'd agree, I think that one would draw some thinkpieces.

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107. "Mostly the show "
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The gay landscaper
The Niggar family
Clayton Bixby
She looks like she had Underwear with Dick holes in them

Dude was always line stepping but I think since a lot of it was racial it was okay.

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116. "Word yea I think the race angle plays a factor."
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Cause obviously he's black so he's got some license to take that issue head on. And also he's on the progressive side of that issue. So while he's technically "pushing the envelope" it's not quite apples to apples with "punching down" on trans folks etc.


>The gay landscaper
>The Niggar family
>Clayton Bixby
>She looks like she had Underwear with Dick holes in them
>
>Dude was always line stepping but I think since a lot of it
>was racial it was okay.

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219. "and this is exactly the point everyone is missing in this post."
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>Cause obviously he's black so he's got some license to take
>that issue head on. And also he's on the progressive side of
>that issue. So while he's technically "pushing the envelope"
>it's not quite apples to apples with "punching down" on trans
>folks etc.

an individual being personally offended is not the problem. folks are going to be offended by all sorts of things...it is what it is.

Dave is also straight...which give him zero license to punch down at people that are not. Like zero.

That shit isn't offensive to me..its highly disappointing and juvenile. it's also hypocritical because he understood, during his Chappelle's Show, era that no artists work exists in a vacuum...that you bear at least some responsibility for the effect it has on the populace

and he was smart enough to pick up that all his sketches about Niggas let white people laugh just a bit too hard for his comfort...he understood the inherent danger in that.

so for him to ignore that now...at a time when his power and privilege are at the greatest point its ever been..at a time when those in power are sonning the powerless in ways we haven't seen...when trans folk are being murdered...for him, and all of you, to play the "its just jokes" card is naive and dangerous.

These jokes...so widely a part of pop culture, add to the danger folks face every day. That's far more important to me than a comedian feeling "safe to say whatever he likes".

your individual freedom should not cost others their lives.

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223. "Nah all of that is wrong"
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If Dave singled out Trans and only made jokes about them you could say he was punching down but he's going in on everybody.

The same with his show, if the white people laughed at every sketch as hard as they did at the ones that made Dave uncomfortable, then you could say Dave was wrong and he is hypocritical, but since that probably didn't happen.

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224. "it's not "wrong" or "right". It's my analysis."
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>If Dave singled out Trans and only made jokes about them you
>could say he was punching down but he's going in on
>everybody.

Then you don't understand what punching down means. He punched up at white people and other power structures AND down at Queer folk etc in that special. It does not make the punching down ok. Not even close.

>
>The same with his show, if the white people laughed at every
>sketch as hard as they did at the ones that made Dave
>uncomfortable, then you could say Dave was wrong and he is
>hypocritical, but since that probably didn't happen.

ok i'm sorry but i did not understand your point here.. imma need you to rephrase it a bit

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228. "In that case I disagree with your analysis."
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>>If Dave singled out Trans and only made jokes about them
>you
>>could say he was punching down but he's going in on
>>everybody.
>
>Then you don't understand what punching down means. He punched
>up at white people and other power structures AND down at
>Queer folk etc in that special. It does not make the punching
>down ok. Not even close.


Some Queer folk are part of the power structure and some are white so it's not really punching down.

>>
>>The same with his show, if the white people laughed at every
>>sketch as hard as they did at the ones that made Dave
>>uncomfortable, then you could say Dave was wrong and he is
>>hypocritical, but since that probably didn't happen.
>
>ok i'm sorry but i did not understand your point here.. imma
>need you to rephrase it a bit
>
>d


Ok you said

"he was smart enough to pick up that all his sketches about Niggas let white people laugh just a bit too hard for his comfort...he understood the inherent danger in that. so for him to ignore that now."

I'm saying I don't believe Dave walking away from his show because whites laughed too hard at those sketches, is the same as Dave making jokes about Trans.

I believe that's why comedians have problem with this kind of criticism, they feel like they can't say anything.

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248. "much better."
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Fri Aug-30-19 11:14 AM by Damali

          

>Some Queer folk are part of the power structure and some are
>white so it's not really punching down.

It is when the Black and brown ones are the ones in the most danger of being harmed. So because white ones might not face blowback from Dave's "jokes", doesn't matter, huh?


>Ok you said
>
>"he was smart enough to pick up that all his sketches about
>Niggas let white people laugh just a bit too hard for his
>comfort...he understood the inherent danger in that. so for
>him to ignore that now."
>
>I'm saying I don't believe Dave walking away from his show
>because whites laughed too hard at those sketches, is the same
>as Dave making jokes about Trans.

True...that isn't why he walked away. But I remember him expressing discomfort about that when some white guy on set during the Niggards sketched laughed a bit too hard. Even if that wasn't the final straw, i'm quite sure it was a contributing factor.


>I believe that's why comedians have problem with this kind of
>criticism, they feel like they can't say anything.

Then boo hoo for their sensitive asses. Clearly he CAN say anything, cuz he just did and got $60 mil for it. so their "feeling" is just them wanting free speech then wanting to silence the criticism when it comes, just as freely.

that's some hypocritical bullshit and its the exact sensitivity that they themselves complain about.

Point being, EVERYONE is sensitive..those telling the jokes AND those on the receiving end. There is nothing wrong with being sensitive.

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253. "Thank you"
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>
>It is when the Black and brown ones are the ones in the most
>danger of being harmed. So because white ones might not face
>blowback from Dave's "jokes", doesn't matter, huh?
>

Yes it matters but Whites shouldn't get a pass for the harm they cause just because they have something in common with Black and brown Trans.


>
>True...that isn't why he walked away
> But I remember him
>expressing discomfort about that when some white guy on set
>during the Niggards sketched laughed a bit too hard. Even if
>that wasn't the final straw, i'm quite sure it was a
>contributing factor.
>

Why did he walk away ?



>
>Then boo hoo for their sensitive asses. Clearly he CAN say
>anything, cuz he just did and got $60 mil for it. so their
>"feeling" is just them wanting free speech then wanting to
>silence the criticism when it comes, just as freely.
>

He can say what he wants, but they can take him down. I don't believe Dave and the other comedians want to silence free speech and the criticism that comes with it. They have a problem with that community ending their career.

>that's some hypocritical bullshit and its the exact
>sensitivity that they themselves complain about.
>

Its not hypocritical when that community supported Joan Rivers, Lisa Lampanelli and worst.

>Point being, EVERYONE is sensitive..those telling the jokes
>AND those on the receiving end. There is nothing wrong with
>being sensitive.
>

I agree nothing wrong with being sensitive.

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255. "RE: Thank you"
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>
>Yes it matters but Whites shouldn't get a pass for the harm
>they cause just because they have something in common with
>Black and brown Trans.

And that we 110% agree on.

>
>Why did he walk away ?
>

When he was on inside the Actor's Studio, he seemed to imply that the $50mil would have required him to live a sheltered life that he didn't want...that the money kinda scared him at that time

clearly, he's over that lol


>
>He can say what he wants, but they can take him down.

the check cleared. he has reached the pinnacle of his career already..oh and who is they?

ultimately, he is responsible for the impact of his own words. period. you trash vulnerable people and receive career backlash for it, THEN DON'T TRASH VULNERABLE PEOPLE.

also, no you can't run into a crowded movie theater and yell "Fire".

and you can't threaten to blow up people.

WORDS MATTER.

like its simple. its like me complaining my job "took me down" cuz I stole some shit. THEN I SHOULDN'T STEAL NEXT TIME lol


I don't
>believe Dave and the other comedians want to silence free
>speech and the criticism that comes with it. They have a
>problem with that community ending their career.

whose career has been ended unfairly? i'm still waiting for that info cuz that's an irrational, strawman fear, if comedians have it. It gives them a phantom menace to rail against..and folks are falling for it


>Its not hypocritical when that community supported Joan
>Rivers, Lisa Lampanelli and worst.

which community? Most certainly not the Black one.


>I agree nothing wrong with being sensitive.

*daps*

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261. "RE: Thank you"
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>>
>>Yes it matters but Whites shouldn't get a pass for the harm
>>they cause just because they have something in common with
>>Black and brown Trans.
>
>And that we 110% agree on.
>

true indeed


>
>When he was on inside the Actor's Studio, he seemed to imply
>that the $50mil would have required him to live a sheltered
>life that he didn't want...that the money kinda scared him at
>that time
>

Thanks it's been years since I watched that. Yep the money definitely scared him.

>clearly, he's over that lol
>

lol yes he is, fear of big checks is not an issue.


>
>the check cleared. he has reached the pinnacle of his career
>already..oh and who is they?
>

I don't mean a single check or payment, they can take his money and career.
They is the gatekeepers, Exec's, anybody in a position with power, money and connections.

>ultimately, he is responsible for the impact of his own words.
>period. you trash vulnerable people and receive career
>backlash for it, THEN DON'T TRASH VULNERABLE PEOPLE.
>

It don't stop right there. Right wing radio full of people who made careers out of trashing vulnerable people,no backlash. Howard Stern didn't face backlash he got promoted and celebrated. Jeff Ross given shows to roast people.

>also, no you can't run into a crowded movie theater and yell
>"Fire".
>
>and you can't threaten to blow up people.
>
>WORDS MATTER.
>
>like its simple. its like me complaining my job "took me down"
>cuz I stole some shit. THEN I SHOULDN'T STEAL NEXT TIME lol
>

Yes words do matter but everything is not equal, yelling fire in a crowded theater or threatening to blow up people is not the same as a comedian telling jokes to people who paid to see him or clicked on his Netflix special.

If I stabbed someone at work should I face the same backlash/punishment that you did, because you stole something ?


>
>whose career has been ended unfairly? i'm still waiting for
>that info cuz that's an irrational, strawman fear, if
>comedians have it. It gives them a phantom menace to rail
>against..and folks are falling for it
>

If they are doing it behind the scenes, it will be hard to prove. It didn't start or stop with the Red scare but it did happen.

>>Its not hypocritical when that community supported Joan
>>Rivers, Lisa Lampanelli and worst.
>
>which community? Most certainly not the Black one.
>

The LGBTQ community.

>>I agree nothing wrong with being sensitive.
>
>*daps*
>

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100. "Exactly"
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I think they they need to watch the Epilogue, calling that bit shaming suicide is too much. Dave is doing jokes using a Asian stereotype trope that his wife hates. That's just Dave

https://www.newsweek.com/dave-chappelles-sticks-stones-netflix-comedy-special-has-hidden-ending-1456203

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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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106. "im reminded of this...."
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(oddly titled on youtube. but the meat of what carlin is saying speaks to what i feel some comics are attempting to do)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVZMifGcW64

  

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Wow - this was so good. I need dig back into Carlin.



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82. "There's a lot of comedians fist pumping this shit....."
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Great set. Dave went hard and made you think and made you uncomfortable with YOURSELF.....but he made you laugh. This outrage culture bullshit needs to get to a realistic place. Dave could pack up his shit and leave for good if he wanted but he's sticking this out cause he knows he's one of the few that can push back.

  

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97. "Only complaint was the LGBT setup...never had a punchline"
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he's setting up this alphabet joke...and it ends with Q getting in the back seat...

Other than that...fucking loved it

I've never seen a comedian come out throwing haymakers at the audience

channeling his inner Lenny Bruce

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120. "I more or less agree with this"
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I felt like there were some jokes going too far in the name of edgelording, which I guess is his style now? meh

but at least this time around it felt more like he thought about what he was gonna say regarding queer people than before. the other two specials just seemed flabby and sick and comparison. this one had more energy.

Impressions were the most hilarious part.
As were the opioid segments. Timely given there's a 572 million dollar judgment against Johnson and Johnson for their role in it all.

  

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129. "yeah the car analogy was pretty unnecessary/aimless."
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minor complaint tho.

  

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135. "actually it was spot on if you listen to it when he got to the T part..."
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it kind of brought it all together

  

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140. "Yeah that G & L hate T because they're making the trip take forever"
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shit was spot-fucking-on.
There wasn't a big pay-off but the set-up was great.

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142. "RE: There wasn't a big pay-off"
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This was my point

Being familiar with Dave's style...I have to remind myself alot of times...he's not just telling a story

He's using all of these descriptions, etc...to setup a joke

...that segment...just kinda...ends...

Plenty of funny comments during the delivery...as you pointed out

But...Ts are making the trip take longer...isn't the pay off.

I'm not critiquing his ability to tell a funny and interesting story

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178. ""I really wanna get in this car." "
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lmao

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It wasn’t the best joke in the special, but the payoff was there. You just didn’t dig it.

I thought it was nuanced, probably because he workshopped it in a San Fran club where the audience was (more likely than not) attuned to LGBTQ culture and probably gave him an idea of what would and wouldn’t work.

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102. "Did anyone watch the prologue?"
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Where he talked about building the material for this set and answered questions from the audience?


I think the best part was when he told the story about the transgender woman in SF (whom he actually posted a pic of in the credits too) that enjoyed his whole set, including his transgender jokes. How she said that she read about him in the NY times and how they criticized him for normalizing R. Kelly for making jokes about him on Chappelle show but how they didn't give him credit for normalizing Transgenders by making jokes about them.

I also found the bit about the Comedy Central Standards department telling him he couldn't say the F-word and her response as to why he could say the N-word but not the F-word.

I would have loved to hear the response to "but I'm not a n*gger either". I wish he'd finished the story.

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104. "the Jussie joke seems to have landed hardest."
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people are meme-ing the fuck outta that segment, LOL

  

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124. "Even though they said they were filming here, I didn’t realize it was ..."
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Hope my face isn’t in this shit. That being said, the Jussie joke was one of the hardest times I laughed (and one of the only parts I remember smh)

  

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139. "that part where"
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he does the impressions... and the audience pipes in with who they think it is off the bat, that had me laughing before he answered

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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123. "Dude's a master"
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i don't know where i'd rank this among his recent specials. I'd have to watch it again, but he def didn't disappoint.

  

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125. "btw did they take his first Netflix special off of Netflix?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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130. "the stuff meant to offend was pretty good."
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seemed like there was a really dope relationship with the audience where they understood what was going on and appreciated it.

hes kinda losing a step on the generally observational stuff tho.

this was a decent waste of time...which is all i pretty much ask for nowadays. my expectations are down across the board on modern comedy. im not sure theres anyone alive that can produce the type of timeless/classic set we were fortunate to come up on.

  

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132. "The majority of the audience are huge Dave fans"
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the idea of a bunch of people going to his show not knowing what to expect is kind of head scratching to me.

It happened to me with CK tho. I didn’t know much about him before I went to his show and he wasn’t that good. Audience groaned at his Black joke which made him pack it up early. It was a bad joke tho.. wasn’t funny at all.

I think when it happens to Dave he will pivot or adjust but as long as the jokes hit, and IMO he was firing on all cylinders in this last special, folks will have to deal with it or just move on from him.

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134. "Funny is funny, this was decent"
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He's one of the best comedians out here, but obviously he's falling behind the times and there's nothing shocking or spectacular about these jokes imo. Felt more like a grown head whose jokes and humour isn't hitting like that anymore, maybe it is shock and awe to some, but he's not sharp like he used to be and the content really isn't original or thought provoking. Just... meh

Dave Chappelle will always be Dave Chappelle tho & he'll always be one of the greats even though he aint got it like that no mo, judging from this special in particular



  

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136. "i didn't find this hilarous. it was chuckle inducing. "
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but i did enjoy the fact that he's challenging everyone. i think i liked that more than the actual jokes.

  

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138. "Mocking white dude with a rifle across his lawn"
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“Ain’t that a bitch?”

  

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141. "It was aite"
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144. "I watched it twice. I think it's an instant classic. "
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The theme of the whole special is right up top in singing 1999. - "Tryin' to run from the destruction, you know I didn't even care."

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234. "Same here! Funny or not, Left me thinking"
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He took it back to traditional comedy. His pacing, his dialogue, the discomfort. I really enjoyed it and he has proved that he can deliver thoughtful funny content. Can't tell if it will hold up over time. More about contemporary issues.

But America is about speaking from the heart without condemnation. He resurrected that people want to be able to say whatever the fuck they want to say. The internets have people pretending to be politically correct. Everybody has some shit. At least we can laugh and admit it.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

  

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146. "T'was Dope and not for the PC Crowd. "
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

  

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147. "definitely not lol"
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316. "Absolutely. A great Comedic Commentary on Cancel Culture and PC Culture "
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

  

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185. "this from the guy who's against LGBT rights"
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317. "What are LGBTQIA rights?"
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.
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

Looking for Good News: https://www.goo

  

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332. "don't ask stupid questions"
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you know where you stand on these issues

  

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340. "^^ As usual. Nothing. "
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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

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148. "I'm done with "Comedian OUTRAGE CULTURE""
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The change with Dave has been that he's attacking things he feels are attacking him - and since I'm not him I don't care a lot.

And he's OUTRAGED over OUTRAGE culture.

He's a victim AND a victim blamer.

He did seem a little more connected during this one that the last one I watched. And a littler healthier and more connected.

His voice is going bad- he'll sound like Lucille Ball soon. (Lucille Ball yelling at Mr. Mooney.)

Lenny Bruce sucked when all he talked about was being attacked (and he was unfairly and viciously attacked - way worse than Dave or Seinfeld.)

Carlin flirted with this in the 88-91 period - but by 1992 he was back in his right mind (well, until his wife died - and then he's depressed and insane.)


And yes, I know SOME of these jokes Dave told that were dumb as fuck are the jokes you tell your friends when being "naughty" or "silly" but it's doesn't hit with me when he's telling it in front of a sycophantic audience. (They felt sycophantic to me - or maybe more like SUPERfans.)

If Dave keeps this up he'll get fanbase only the black Joe Rogan can dream of.

But no matter what we think: He got paid.

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149. "lmao"
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>The change with Dave has been that he's attacking things he
>feels are attacking him - and since I'm not him I don't care a
>lot.
>
>And he's OUTRAGED over OUTRAGE culture.
>
>He's a victim AND a victim blamer.
>
>He did seem a little more connected during this one that the
>last one I watched. And a littler healthier and more
>connected.
>
>His voice is going bad- he'll sound like Lucille Ball soon.
>(Lucille Ball yelling at Mr. Mooney.)
>
>Lenny Bruce sucked when all he talked about was being attacked
>(and he was unfairly and viciously attacked - way worse than
>Dave or Seinfeld.)
>
>Carlin flirted with this in the 88-91 period - but by 1992 he
>was back in his right mind (well, until his wife died - and
>then he's depressed and insane.)
>
>
>And yes, I know SOME of these jokes Dave told that were dumb
>as fuck are the jokes you tell your friends when being
>"naughty" or "silly" but it's doesn't hit with me when he's
>telling it in front of a sycophantic audience. (They felt
>sycophantic to me - or maybe more like SUPERfans.)
>
>If Dave keeps this up he'll get fanbase only the black Joe
>Rogan can dream of.
>
>But no matter what we think: He got paid.


What was this ? "black Joe Rogan ? sycophantic audience ? Damn

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152. "This was a comedy special not a debate. "
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The audience paid to see him

TOKP forming like Voltron in here.

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154. "True"
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>The audience paid to see him
>
>TOKP forming like Voltron in here.


lol


Plus he toured so it's not like that was the only audience that heard those jokes.

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156. "they were like, sychopathic super fans"
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they paid to see a comedian they liked, then laughed at his jokes

  

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157. "His description is a great example of why Dave made this special"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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158. "exactly. i had to laugh."
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like, what kinda audience do you expect him to perform for?

  

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159. "YOU CLICKED ON MY FACE!!!"
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166. "Dave won"
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No doubt.

And just because you fucking love it doesn't means it's good.

Such is art.

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150. "I'm kinda in this line & lmao @ "
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the fanbase only the black Joe Rogan can dream of

  

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151. "You don't see hypocrisy in the cancel culture coming for Kevin Hart"
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...but the academy has no problem with the former host of The Man Show hosting the Oscars...

I think the comedian outrage was a cue to what has now become cancel culture

...and I hope we can see how ridiculous it is and the disparity in when it is deployed...

I hope.

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160. "I think it was less about "cancelling" Kevin Hart."
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It was more about - look at what happened to Kevin. He made bad jokes, said he wasn't going to apologize for them AGAIN, quit his dream gig, then goes on a 6 week apology tour only for people to still label him a homophobe.

I guess the point is why apologize to a group of people who just want to "cancel" whatever celebrity this week if you're just going to be labeled problematic anyway. Lean all the way in, and don't sacrifice your artistic beliefs.

That's how I took it, anyway.

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161. "I think it was more about...the group you are offending"
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i.e. the alphabet people

IRT Jimmy Kimmel
prior misogyny
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLHhEiV_9tk
= ok
previous racism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aPbefau2Zc
= ok

offend the LGBTQ community = outta here.

it's the selectivity in the application of the outrage

there is literally no one that doesn't have something problematic in their past

labeling Kevin a homophobe also reminds me of Dave's Juicy SmooL-YAY comment...racist/homophobes aren't watching empire

Kev lives in LA. Would a homophobe move to LA?

It's apparant to me, from Dave's routines, he knows more LGBTQ members than I do...but he still gets labeled a homophobe

Is it even possible to be in the entertainment business AND a homophobe?

none of it makes sense to me.

You're right...might as well not even worry about it...tell your jokes...let those easily offended be offended = fuck em, do you.

If the pitch forks come out, they come out

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162. "agree on most of this but"
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>Kev lives in LA. Would a homophobe move to LA?

>Is it even possible to be in the entertainment business AND a
>homophobe?

Yes and yes. That's almost like saying a white person who works in the sports world couldn't possibly be racist.

I def think exposure could play a huge factor in opening one's eyes, as you start seeing people as people your preconceived notions begin to crumble. I was pretty homophobic growing up. Working in media definitely played a huge role in recognizing my own ignorance. It's a safer space for the alphabet car but it's also not non existent.

All that said, i agree Hart was done dirty, and as you said damn near everyone has shitty things in their past, and all this cherry picking is bullshit.



  

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163. "RE: in the sports world"
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the owners are white

in entertainment, you have writers, producers and studio execs that are gay

I would imagine, a talent that is genuinely homophobic, is going to struggle for work in hollywood

...and would have a hard time with daily activities living in west la...

in your sports analogy...would a black owner hire a yt racist subordinate?

would that yt racist subordinate even be able to work for a black owner?

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164. "even if the analogy is flawed, you're still wrong"
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you asked if it's even possible to be in the entertainment business and homophobic

the answer is yes. I've seen it plenty times over in the past 15 years. same goes for conservatives who make a similar claim. There's plenty of both. It's just not the norm.

or that a homophobe would never ever move to LA.

that's ridiculous.

  

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180. "Yup. If you can make a ton of money you will work with anyone "
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179. "I think its about black comedians getting too powerful and making too..."
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much money and they want to reign that it.

I hope Eddie comes back and kills the game too.

  

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155. "cool think piece, bro"
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187. "correct"
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the audience came across like "we have to laugh, it's Dave"

I'll admit when Jay Z or Kendrick Lamar drop something that isn't good

  

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220. "perfectly said. "
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153. "The Epilogue was great "
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and showed there's a level of self-awareness in his material that a lot of critics don't give him credit for. Keeping it a "secret track" was a good reminder that if you're just there for the jokes, Dave Chappelle is probably not for you at this point of his career.

A lot of people are comparing this to Aziz's special but imo they're two different performers. I think Aziz is better suited for theater and drawing connections for the audience. Someone pointed above that Dave's style can have long/drawn out setups, which make more sense for comedy rooms as opposed to a big stage. That style can be a little too intimate to translate well for a Netflix special.

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165. "i bet half these dim bulbs in this post..."
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didn't even peep the Epilogue.

  

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204. "TBH I didn't even know there was one"
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I was pleasantly surprised when it popped up

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170. "Aziza works very hard to appease his audiences. Dave seems to have zero ..."
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To give.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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205. "Yeah, opening up with 1999 was the tell tale sign"
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or DJing AND nightlife...
peep Opening Set Podcast
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@stankpalmer

  

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175. "The diff for me is Aziz is phony & Dave is incapable of being phony"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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177. "Aw I don't find Aziz phony at all."
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Cheesy maybe. But not phony. Quite the opposite actually.

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186. "I mean dude wrote a book on relationships and how to treat women"
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And then behaved like a fuck boi on a date.

But besides that, I do think he lays it on thick...and I am a fan of his.


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188. "Fair enough but I never read the book. Nor was I there for the date."
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>And then behaved like a fuck boi on a date.
>
>But besides that, I do think he lays it on thick...and I am a
>fan of his.

And frankly his trite and apologetic response to the allegations actually further proves, to me at least, that he isn't a phony. He's complex and contradictory like the rest of us. But he owned up to his shitty mistake(s).

And I can't really speak to whether or not he's "phony" based on the book cause I never read it. For all I know he had an entire section of the book dedicated to how you can be the most woke straight man alive but horniness can *still* take over and make you do shitty things. Haha. Probably not, just saying.

Anyway - your point is valid, but like I said I think the fact that he addressed the issue head on and didn't deny or hide from it, or hide behind some bullshit excuse, only makes him *more* genuine to me, not phony.

But all that aside, my response was speaking strictly about his presence on stage and in his TV shows and such. I never found him phony at all, personally.

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190. "Essentially I have no idea who the real Aziz is & it appears..."
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he’s still trying to find himself.

I’m a fan... but so far in his career he’s been:

Hipster comedian
Starfucker comedian
Suave Relationship Comedian
Nebbish Woody Allen/Louis CK comic actor
And now he’s intimate sit on the stool let me talk to you about some real shit comedian

To me... he’s doing whatever he thinks will sell at any given moment.

And I reiterate he’s been my dawg since Human Giant & Flight of the Conchords

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191. "Word OK. I get what you're saying but ..."
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I just look at all of that as "growing up" and evolving as a person. But that's just my view of it, like I said I understand your position.

The reason I don't see it as phony is because his general temperament has remained the same throughout all of those comedic iterations. So I don't necessarily see it as "phony" coming from him, or like .. that he's a sellout or anything like that. I just see it as someone who *was* a hipster who then suddenly became super famous almost overnight and therefore had different stories to tell so he *was* a starfucker. And simultaneously he started getting laid more frequently so he had more perspective to use for his relationship stuff, so he *was* the suave relationship guy. And so on and so forth. It comes off as honest to me, and furthermore I prefer he evolve his comedic chops rather than rehash the same jokes and/or the same TYPES of jokes for years.


>RE: Essentially I have no idea who the real Aziz is & it appears...
>he’s still trying to find himself.
>
>I’m a fan... but so far in his career he’s been:
>
>Hipster comedian
>Starfucker comedian
>Suave Relationship Comedian
>Nebbish Woody Allen/Louis CK comic actor
>And now he’s intimate sit on the stool let me talk to you
>about some real shit comedian
>
>To me... he’s doing whatever he thinks will sell at any
>given moment.
>
>And I reiterate he’s been my dawg since Human Giant & Flight
>of the Conchords
>

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195. "I would think that if they were subtle changes..."
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but they seem like gimmicks. And I don’t feel he’s doing it for artistic reasons. He seems uncomfortable to me. But he’s not young. So I’m guessing he’s gonna continue trying out new personas until one sticks.

It took Chris Rock a while to settle in from doing Eddie Murphy rip-off to Martin rip offs. So we’ll see.

Most stand-ups that I think are great stay consistently within their stand-up persona.

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199. "Co-sign this..."
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>I’m a fan... but so far in his career he’s been:
>
>Hipster comedian
>Starfucker comedian
>Suave Relationship Comedian
>Nebbish Woody Allen/Louis CK comic actor
>And now he’s intimate sit on the stool let me talk to you
>about some real shit comedian

I liked him a lot him up until he became "Suave relationship comedian." It felt like an absolute & complete flip of his prior persona. And he wasn't super-great at it either. After that, IMO, he became just "meh."

  

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202. "It's a little Kanye-ish"
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>To me... he’s doing whatever he thinks will sell at any
>given moment.

Kanye's had so many different personas during his career but was always guaranteed to adopt whatever sound (work with whatever artists) was bubbling and make it mainstream.

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167. "The best joke teller alive in the world"
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layered jokes
non-linear jokes
tragic jokes
thoughtful jokes
insightful jokes
hilarious jokes

I don't understand, even if you're offended by some of the topics touched, how anyone can't recognize his greatness and appreciate the artistic mastery.

I'm no opera fan, I barely appreciate it and I never listen to it for plain enjoyment. But as a supporter of the arts, I paid to see Andrea Bocelli at the Hollywood Bowl a while back, only so I could witness a master perform live.

Netflix specials are next to being free entertainment, his performance might as well be a gift. We need to appreciate what we have while we have it.

...and every critical hit piece I read in response was lazy and simplistic, some authors even admitted not watching anything beyond snippets.

  

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168. "Damn you sound like you can’t even form your own opinion"
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169. "Because I'm not offended..."
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...except by the multitude of weak criticism made about his craft, for outrage's sake?
OK.

  

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173. "I didn’t find anything in the entire stand-up offensive"
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You’re honestly just proving my point lol

  

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182. "You seem triggered, rest assured my comment is not..."
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...based on your reply up top, I didn't take time to read it but for a quick glance now to understand your angle.
You objecting to how good the special is doesn't equate to a heightened analysis in thought.
Opinions formed based beyond an individual's simple taste is not how I value criticism, of the arts especially.
Valuing the details in the performance and recognition of an artist executing their craft well is, no matter taste preferences.

But cheers to you for being a grown-up and forming your own opinions...unlike all these other sheepole--like me.

  

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222. "LOL @ this see-through art stance you’re taking"
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The shit is either funny or it’s not.

This bullshit about, “he’s such a master at his craft it doesn’t even matter if it’s funny because he is so intelligent” is actually funnier than the stand-up.

It’s easy to tell when people have a disingenuous view because they think a certain opinion reflects positively on their own taste.

  

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226. "So, which is it, my opinion is disingenuous or I can't form one?"
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You're all over the place homes.
Not deciding not to like it, and for some reason being unnerved (with your weird lols) because I do doesn't magically degrease fat meat.
The special was excellent nigga.
Name another Netflix original that's better.

  

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233. "Wow..."
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You opinion is disingenuous because it full of talking points, thus my conclusion that you can’t form your own opinion.

Carry on...

  

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235. "Sticks & Stones "
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238. "Lol"
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367. "People are just too stupid with regards to comedy."
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No one is safe during a comedic routine.

It doesn’t matter the ethnicity, gender, social issue, politics, spirituality etc... if a comedian can craft a joke out of the situation then they will.

  

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174. "Just didn't find a lot of it particularly funny."
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The opioid stuff was gold. And some of the Jussie stuff was funny. Outside of that, there was a few "Oh damns," but not a lot of it was laugh out loud funny.

Some of it reminded me of the Anthony Jeselnik that he did a little while ago for NetFlix, where a lot of the humor was built around going somewhere the audience didn't expect. It didn't work as much as it should.

I agree that I thought the epilogue was better and funnier overall.

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176. "A few shining moments but some went on too long."
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The LGBTQ part went on too long.

So did the heroin addict in his house thing.

The Bourdain joke was very well told, I understand the outrage but that joke cracked me up.

The Jussie stuff cracked me up too.

Didn’t like the whole “Dapne said my jokes were funny so THERE” angle—felt too much like a “I can’t be racist my best friends are black” thing.

  

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181. "I think the Daphne thing was pointing out how.."
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folks try to speak for EVERYONE when they need to stfu

Half the time the people most outraged by shit aren’t even part of the group.

If you want equality you have to be able to get joked.

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275. "The Daphne bit was a setup to the unexpected end"
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It was classic Dave. It was set up so you’d think he would use it as a defense for his jokes? Then he went somewhere else.

Peace,

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183. "I mostly laughed at the 25 minutes I saw. But it is hard to square "
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his main thesis around the trans stuff with this reasoning for leaving the show 15 years ago (the white people were laughing at him, not with him). I keep coming back to the conclusion that he's being hypocritical. And I say that as someone who still finds him pretty funny (although I do miss his old style of Black Goofiness - he seems sadder and darker now.)

  

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184. "Yea pretty much exactly this."
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>RE: I mostly laughed at the 25 minutes I saw. But it is hard to square
>his main thesis around the trans stuff with this reasoning
>for leaving the show 15 years ago (the white people were
>laughing at him, not with him). I keep coming back to the
>conclusion that he's being hypocritical. And I say that as
>someone who still finds him pretty funny (although I do miss
>his old style of Black Goofiness - he seems sadder and darker
>now.)

I'm yet to see the epilogue, so maybe he covers this - but it'd be one thing if he at least acknowledged his strange positions on trans people as the result of a personal blindspot/prejudice or something like that. Because yea, it's definitely hypocritical of him to take this type of position.

I also said the same thing re: his new vs. old style. It's not that he wasn't covering edgy or controversial material in his older work - of course he was. But he did it in such an endearing and accessible way, which is what made it so brilliant. The way I put it to my friend yesterday is that he's more cynical and jaded now, which I guess is a result of age but still - it's sad to see. And the cynicism makes the edgier material less funny IMO.

I laughed several times throughout this special and he's still got it to a certain extent, but he certainly isn't nearly as lethal as he used to be.

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192. "what is his stance on Ts...other than he finds being "
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trapped in the wrong body hilarious

You know, like freaky Friday or any other movie where the characters switch bodies

?

He does raise an interesting point

Why is gender the only identity that people are conflicted by

Why not ethnicity, etc...?

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197. "I wish Nas would make another Illmatic"
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You talk about Dave like he chose to get older and more sarcastic.

People been screaming Rick James at him for 20 fucking years. Of course he isn’t his young happy self. Hell, are comedians even actually happy irl?

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198. "? I never said "I wish" anything. Just made observations. But do you pla..."
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>You talk about Dave like he chose to get older and more
>sarcastic.

No, I don't talk about him like that.


>People been screaming Rick James at him for 20 fucking years.
>Of course he isn’t his young happy self.
>Hell, are comedians
>even actually happy irl?

Never said anything counter to this, not a single thing.

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193. "I laughed HARD at certain points"
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I'm not a member of the LGBTQ community so it's not up to me to deem his comments about that group as no big deal.

(I'd be curious to see the reaction to a Gay, White comedian doing that f---ot n---a bit about Jussie Smollet)

The part about (some of) the other members of the LGB community treating Trans people greasy is actually a good bit of nuance that will probably go unrecognized because it's Dave saying it.

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194. "I think he doubled down because he doesn’t give a fuck"
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196. "I mean yea. And that's his right and all but in this day and age ..."
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.. should we be applauding that ?

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200. "Who is we? Those who like his comedy will applaud "
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Those who don’t, won’t

I guess it sucks to be a fan who has grown tired of his style of comedy. Oh well... hopefully ticket prices go down so I can cop better seats

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203. "We is the majority of the country who hates Individual 1's America."
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210. "Well I’m applauding him"
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He isn’t for everyone and that’s ok.

But like he said..

“YOU CLICKED ON MY FACE!!!”

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218. "Dave needs to do what he feels"
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i'm not for shock for its own sake, but if this is where he is, and what he finds interesting and funny, go with it. if he's truly behind the times his career will die a slow death

What he needs to NOT do is try to cater his act to where other people say it needs to be, or worry about if he's upsetting this tribe to much or appealing to that tribe too much, That's all noise.

meaning I haven't paid attention to any articles or takes outside of this post or my own friends, but I'm willing to guess the fox folks or twats like ben shapiro will be championing this because they get off on anything that triggers liberals, and that the woke twitter/thinkpiece crowd will be reacting as expected.

  

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221. "this is a simplistic, binary falsehood."
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>Those who don’t, won’t

Dave has always been my favorite comedian. his style of comedy is expert level genius that probably no one will reach, like ever.

he also cowardly punched down while doing the very thing he complained about. I wasn't offended at all..I found it whiny, mean-spirited and beneath the level of intelligence and nuance that I expect of him.

The simple fact is: he's stuck in the past, is bitter about it and wants us all to know.

that's cute and all, but its also irresponsible. I'm disappointed in him and I have a right to feel that way without mofos trying to gaslight me and write off my legit critique as "you just don't get it" or "you don't have a sense of humor" or "you're too sensitive" or "he's just being himself"....yall sound just like the mofos that be defending Trump

fuck that. My opinion is just as valid as the rest of y'alls.



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225. "y’all always jump to Trump comparisons. "
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It’s his special, tts his life, it’s his story.

He gets paid a ton of money to give his opinion.

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227. "when it quacks like a duck..."
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and yup he has a right to speak freely

we also have a right to criticize and point out the harm of that shit

you can't applaud one and stifle the other, my dude

*kanye shrug*

d

p.s. interesting how you didn't substantively address anything else i said lol

  

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230. "Who I saying you can’t have an opinion. "
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I’m just telling you that your opinion on Dave is wrong.

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252. "u spent your whole life not knowing what an opinion is?"
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seriously?

its neither right nor wrong.

that's what makes it an OPINION

only facts can be right or wrong.

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268. "WTF?"
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>I’m just telling you that your opinion on Dave is wrong.

huh?

You're better than this. Some liked it. Some didn't.

She made several points why she didn't like it. You can address those or not, but you can't tell anyone they are wrong for not liking something.

I am a huge Dave fan. This shit just wasn't that funny to me.

You are doing way too much in this thread my man.

  

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277. "lol @ him being better than this"
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294. "glad u said it *chucklechuckle*"
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215. "we shouldnt be"
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209. "post #51...folks expecting him to transform into some uber-liberal PC..."
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comedian are going to be disappointed.

Netflix is paying him $20 mil a special and he lives on a 65-acre farm in Ohio.

He really doesn't give a fuck what anybody here thinks.

  

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211. "The audacity of these broke woke fucks..lol. "
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Black man is paid HANDSOMELY and they want a nigga... no, no, the EXPECT him to change????



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201. "Bottom line is his trans jokes weren’t funny enough..."
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...to outweigh how offensive they were.

I said earlier to someone Seinfield said in an interview that when you have an offensive joke you gotta weight how funny the joke is versus offensiveness and if it isn’t funny enough to outweigh offensiveness you shouldn’t do it.

Basically Dave’s jokes on trans folks aren’t funny enough to outweigh how offensive they are.

Also now that I’m thinking about it I found a lot of his justifications silly.

The punchline that Kevin would have to but the dollhouse for his son to break it over his head was dumb once you realize he has a son and daughter...

Also saying Louis masterbating wasn’t a big deal because he wasn’t hurting anyone completely removed the power dynamic...if he had found a joke that touched on that I guess it would have been possibly funny, but as is just sounds like he’s trying to defend his friend poorly.

  

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206. "I don’t like CK so that part was meh to me"
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Pancake batter was funny tho.

But again, Dave sets it up as being a friend and a victim blamed. Pretty much Dave tells us he isn’t going to use logic when discussing these things because he has a personal bias.. and a microphone.

To me tho, the majority of the special highlights how people swear they are offended but not so offended to turn it off or get up and leave...

It’s R Kelly Boondocks logic. “If someone tries to pee on me, I move”

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216. "it's called wanting to see where an "intelligent" comedian is going"
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>To me tho, the majority of the special highlights how people
>swear they are offended but not so offended to turn it off or
>get up and leave...
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>It’s R Kelly Boondocks logic. “If someone tries to pee on
>me, I move”

I actually cant believe you applied Riley Freeman (a fictional character who was always wrong about everything) saying preyed upon, violated teens shouldnt have stayed there to people sticking through a comedy set to see if there's redeeming value (there was, on the pro-choice points)

  

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207. "Nah those jokes were funny"
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If they didn't work he would have dropped it from the show.

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212. "Lmao so every joke in a show is automatically funny because it made it i..."
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I don’t buy that premise at all.

  

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214. "No, but Chappelle is not so weak that he would have to use a joke"
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208. "RE: Bottom line is his trans jokes weren’t funny enough... <- to you"
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213. "Uh...yeah? Everyone is giving their opinion right?"
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No need to point out the obvious.

Just because one trans person tells the other they weren’t offended doesn’t negate that they were.

  

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231. "That’s cool but no one is forcing you to keep watching his specials"
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I think we have known Dave long enough to know he isn’t going to change for his critics.

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217. "Some of the jokes were kinda wack, but I felt the theme of the show"
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236. "."
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229. "Breitbart Loves it!!!"
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this is what happens when your "comedy" aligns with right wing / white bro talking points LOL

-anti-LGBT
-"#meToo has gone too far"
- fuck kids
- pro-life

AND the best part is its written by a straight white dude who describes himself as a second class citizen on Twitter

https://www.breitbart.com/entertainment/2019/08/29/dave-chappelle-just-might-save-america/

DAVE CHAPPELLE JUST MIGHT SAVE AMERICA

Comedian Dave Chappelle’s latest Netflix special, Sticks & Stones, is one of the greatest hours of comedy I have ever seen — which is saying a lot. As much as I enjoyed his legendary sketch show from 15 years ago (which I only recently caught up with), I had not been all that impressed with his Netflix specials.
Granted, coming up with an hour of solid stand-up material is probably one of the hardest jobs in the world of show business, and very few can pull it off on a regular basis. Bill Cosby and George Carlin were the Ted Williams of this feat, the closest to enjoying a perfect record. Even The Mighty Richard Pryor had his Here and Now.

Chappelle’s done it. Sticks & Stones is a rarity: a perfect piece of art… Nothing could be improved upon, nothing need be touched up. Every brush stroke is exactly where it should be.


And what makes a stand up routine perfect is something that goes beyond the funny… There are probably at least 12 cylinders that must fire: solid jokes, timing, tone, knowing your audience, dealing with hecklers, insight, truth… But the most important one is having a theme, an overarching idea that sends the audience home thinking about something more than the punch-lines.

Throughout the hour, Chappelle does dozens of bits, but if you’re paying attention, all of them are woven together by one common idea, and that is Chappelle’s demand for his right to enjoy free and unfettered artistic expression.

Dave Chappelle wants to talk about what he wants to talk about, which is a God-given right that had been slowly melting away, starting in the late-eighties with the puritan jihads against Sam Kinison and Andrew Dice Clay. But as of late, in this new blacklisting era of ours, that right is almost entirely gone, and Chappelle is done sitting in the back of the satire bus.

Sometimes he comes right out and says this; the subtext becomes text, and that’s fine…

But even when he’s not saying it, he’s still saying it.

When Chappelle jokes about how great it would be to be molested by Michael Jackson, he is not arguing that it would be great to be molested by Michael Jackson, what he’s saying is, Fuck you, I’m going to joke about the most forbidden thing to joke about because fuck you and fuck you this is America, I’m an American and did I mention fuck you?

I don’t know about you, but while I was laughing at the Michael Jackson jokes I also felt a sense of liberation, as did my wife, who had no idea who Chappelle was, and kept saying, “This guy is fearless.” At least twice, without even thinking, we were so into the show, we both clapped.

My GOD, is there a more beautiful sight than a truly free man being truly free?

My favorite part was a story Chappelle told about a meeting with standards and practices when he was doing The Chappelle Show.

They told him that under no circumstance could he ever use the word “faggot” in a sketch.


He was fine with that, but he did have a question (paraphrasing)…

“How come I can’t say ‘faggot,’ but I can say ‘nigger’ as much as I want?”

“Because you’re not gay,” he was told.

“Okay,” he replied. “But I’m also not a nigger.”

Not only is that funny and insightful, but do you see what he’s doing there… He’s exposing what has slowly been happening in this country.

Think about this…

In popular culture and in the news media, we now have first and second class citizens. There are some groups of people who can be crucified in pop culture, annihilated by comedians, satirized relentlessly with a mile-wide mean streak, and depicted as “a problem” in the news media. That’s us. We’re the second class citizens.

The first class citizens are those you are never allowed to satirize, never allowed to mock or criticize — and this is true for one reason and reason only: they hold all the power in Hollywood and in the media.

Chappelle refers to them as “the alphabet people” aka LGBT, and in the most devastating way a comedian can (truth and insight) he lets these fascists have it. Not because they’re LGBT, not because of what they do with their sex organs, but because they’re thin-skinned fascists.

He also lets the audience have it, you and I, those of us who try to blacklist and cancel people through our social media accounts.

He also lets his friend and fellow comedian Kevin Hart have it for eventually caving to the fascists, for apologizing after he said he wouldn’t over decade old jokes about his fears about his son growing up a homosexual.

Chappelle doesn’t just free himself by doing what he is supposed to do, he also liberates himself by REFUSING to do what he IS supposed to do…

There’s not a single joke about President Trump.

Not one.

And in the post-credit sequence, a Q&A with the audience, when he’s asked what he will do if Trump wins a second term, all he says is. “Get a big tax break.”

Look around… Look at every late night-show, every Comedy Central show, every award show… You are supposed to blast Trump because this proves you are one with the elite tribe, this assures the tribe that you are okay, one of us, with the program, another mindless minion who won’t make waves, who won’t trigger anyone.

White people take a beating from Chappelle… Of course we do. And the bit is brilliant because there’s truth to it. Uncomfortable truth, but truth nonetheless.

When black people were being ravaged by crack in the eighties, white America was all, Build more prisons! Lock ’em up! They should have just said NO!

Now that it’s white people being ravaged by opioids, white America is all, OHMYGAWD, a health crisis!

How is that not true?

But again, look at what Chappelle is saying, look at what he’s doing — declaring his liberation by roasting yet another sacred cow — the Opioid Crisis.

On the issue of abortion, while he believes it’s up to the woman, he called abortion what it is — killing and said that if a woman can “kill” the child he wants the right to “abandon” it if she does decide to keep it; “My money, my choice.”

Overall, though, what Dave Chappelle knows is that the Alphabet People are, by far, the most powerful in his particular vocation, in the entertainment business, and that they and their left-wing allies are abusing this power through straight-up blacklists — all in an effort to protect their oh-so above-it-all selves from criticism. What makes Chappelle especially effective, though, is that he doesn’t respond with anger or even a hint of hate or bitterness His weapons are wit, humor, logic, human nature, a fierce intelligence, and best of all, REASON.

Forgive me if this sounds like a bit much, but what Chappelle is also doing — with a lot of help from Ricky Gervais (who deserves the same praise for his brilliant and hysterically funny and brave Netflix special Humanity) — could save America.

The far-left and their media allies are deliberately and relentlessly looking to shrink the Overton Window, the range of what we are allowed to openly discuss and debate, in the same way the villains in Orwell’s 1984 shrunk the dictionary.

This country cannot survive without open and honest debate, without clear language (i.e., “illegal alien” v. “undocumented immigrant”), and cannot function as a true democracy that protects the rights of the smallest and most vulnerable minority — the individual — if we are fighting the Pronouns Nazis, and the “Shut up, you’re racist” Nazis.

We cannot survive as a free democracy if the far-left fascists who infest Silicon Valley, Hollywood, and the media are allowed to disappear us rather than debate us on the merits.

And we certainly cannot survive if We The People join in, if we fall into the trap, if our attitude is, Well, they got Roseanne so I’m going to get The Hunt.

This shit has to stop.

Our society desperately needs a free speech revolution, and if the Obama-loving Chappelle and the Christian-mocking Gervais want to lead it, I’ll follow them straight into hell.

Follow John Nolte on Twitter @NolteNC. Follow his Facebook Page here.

  

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232. "I had actually FORGOTTEN why he left Chapelle show"
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in the 1st place by this point, thanks to the person above who brought that up.

I wonder if he'll feel bad about the "wrong" people laughing at his jokes now that they aren't being directed at a group he belongs to/something that can actually feel negative effects him.

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251. "I can’t control whole likes me - Obama "
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237. "*shrug* they love anything that upsets liberals"
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They're even less interested in any nuance or intent of what Dave has to say than the woke outraged crowd

  

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242. "Exactly. "
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Breitbart is doing what some liberals do with these "Never Trumper" conservatives like David Frum... who got all the bars for Dolt 45

but every now and then will remind you that he enabled the atrocious behavior 2nd worst Presidential admin of modern times.

Breitbart would have been joining the naysayers if Dave made more fun of white people than he did, and omitted the whole "PC" discussion

  

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245. "yup. Liberalism can be attacked from both the left & the right"
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you shift through the critiques and see what's valid.

  

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272. "WHOA there fam! That's too much work for OKP."
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>you shift through the critiques and see what's valid.
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239. "thanks for posting... he probably didn't want it with trump"
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and his mobs of armed psychos. the jokes would have been insane though.

  

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243. "Trump at this point is kind of a layup joke"
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pretty much at least 22 out of 24 hours a day he gives people endless material to shit on.

it is funny because Trump did figure into this special, just not from Dave's words

  

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258. "haha totally agreed however even a SINGLE ill trump joke "
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from him could be a pop culture boom in the best way.

has anyone joked on his kkk grandfather getting arrested in NYC in the 20s?
his racism against black folks, like his NY tenants, through the years?
his grandfather i think begging not to get deported?

maybe some have, maybe not, but as black comedian under white supremacist-in-chief who focuses on racism this is a weird decision to let this clown of the centuries totally off the hook.

  

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336. "his best joke on the recent mess was in another special"
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where he was talking about kneeling... that shit had me WEAK, especially when he got to the Mike Pence part

  

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244. "Ain’t no one trying to hear 5011 more Trump jokes"
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259. "shiiet trump's family tree is a racist goldmine of comedy"
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that i'd assume an anti-racist comedian would at least fuck with.

  

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247. "RE: thanks for posting... he probably didn't want it with trump"
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>and his mobs of armed psychos. the jokes would have been
>insane though.


Shit talking somebody who can't actually do anything to you (outside of some tweets) ain't brave.

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249. "everything doesn't always have to be about Trump"
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there's something like 12 anti-trump comedy/news shows and regular segments currently on TV. Comedians tweet jokes about him all day every day. Half the stand ups out there tee up a Trump joke or two for claps, and to show their crowd they're on the right side. But Dave doesn't because hes afraid?

  

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260. "the kayne MAGA crack was hilarious"
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as i just posted just fucking with 45 given his historical content and 45's bio seemed like a no brainer.

  

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250. "he talks about why he doesn't talk about Trump in the epilogue"
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I forget what he said but it's not this.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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254. "Basically it's not about Trump, it's about the people that voted him in"
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256. "yeah i realized i didn't watch it so i'll check it"
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241. "Lmao :/"
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246. "and you took the bait."
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278. "You are precisely the 'audience' he was referring to "
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continue to miss the forest for the trees tho

  

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295. "duh. tha fuck i care if he was referring to me?"
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that doesn't make him any less of a whiny baby

"ohhhhh i can't be a trash heap out loud to those terrible alphabet people cuz they mad at me..boo hoo!"

y'all finding that shit insightful, funny or brave is telling.

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345. "As my pops would say"
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"The sun even shine on a dog's ass every now and then"

  

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257. "re-watching the whole thing again I almost feel like the main part..."
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of the show was mostly diversionary for the info he gave you in the back half of the epilogue talking about Chris Tucker coming to his show at a club in San Francisco called the Punchline 15 years ago with Gavin Newsome, Kamala Harris, Al Gore, “the guys from Google”, the president of the naacp and Paul Moooney and Kamala called Barack on the phone...

I feel like that story may be more important that the actual punchline...

  

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263. "I thought it was funny"
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We could argue about the value of punching down with jokes, but I think he pulled off the landing to most of the jokes he launched in the special. If you love Dave, you should like it.

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264. "I'm torn"
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I laughed, but other times I was like, "Yeah that's fucked up". I appreciated how the jokes were crafted but I didn't like the low-hanging fruit nature of some of it. It was definitely a "Tale of Two Cities"situation.

  

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265. "About 40% of the jokes could have been done by Larry The Cable Guy"
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280. "I LIKE Larry the Cable guy, but N'awww I don't see it."
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Even When Dave is showing his age on current social events at the very least he's still manages to come up with clever concepts and metaphors to express those ideas.


And I used to watch the fuck outta those Blue Collar Comedy Tours

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267. "big difference between pushing boundaries and cheap shock value"
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This one is a lot of cheap shock value.

And nah, it isn't because I "dont like Dave" or "dont get Dave" or "must have never liked Dave" or don't have a sense of humor or whatever other wild shit is being thrown at people who just didn't find this thing funny.

I love Dave. I love his old shit. I love his new shit. I think dude is a genius.

I did not like this.

It wasn't that funny. It lacked his usual amount of self-awareness. He seemed more interested in shocking people than being funny.

And yes, at times he punched down.

And we are all laughing at child molestation now? Word? (What threw me is I heard of/read about the suicide stuff, etc.- but not much about the child molestation jokes. Those were much worse imo)


He was so focused on shocking people that not only was it not that funny...but he diluted his points.


Can I say that and still "get Dave" or nah?

Can I passionately dislike UMC and still be a Common fan?

Does one have to like Nastradamus to be a Nas fan?


Or can some of yall lighten up (ironic) and accept that this particular special just wasn't for some of us??


And I'm sorry, but if Breitbart is cosigning your shit to make THEIR point, you have to question yourself.


I'm not cancelling him. I'm not throwing out my DVDs. I'm just saying I didn't find this shit very funny.

  

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269. "LOL if you don't think it's funny that is enough, no need to add on."
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>
>
>And I'm sorry, but if Breitbart is cosigning your shit to make
>THEIR point, you have to question yourself.
>
>

lmao Trump co-signed MLK Jr and Breitbart ran a story about it. If we agree with MLK Jr do we have to question ourselves ?

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323. "cmon..."
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Folks are in here throwing a hissy fit because some people didn't like the special.

And there was no reason for me to add on?


I'm really not understanding why some of ya'll are so triggered and going to these lengths to defend this special.

And I'm a Dave fan.



>
>>
>>
>>And I'm sorry, but if Breitbart is cosigning your shit to
>make
>>THEIR point, you have to question yourself.
>>
>>
>
>lmao Trump co-signed MLK Jr and Breitbart ran a story about
>it. If we agree with MLK Jr do we have to question ourselves
>?

Do you really, honestly, think this is the same?

Can you really not see the difference?


I'm going to assume you do, but are just making an absurd comparison to make some kind of point.



  

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331. "Wait a min"
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>
>Folks are in here throwing a hissy fit because some people
>didn't like the special.
>

No, the people who are throwing a hissy fit is the ones that are shocked and disappointed in Dave Chappelle's special.

>And there was no reason for me to add on?
>

No it wasn't unless you wanted to go at the overreaction by those bending over backwards to complain about a comedian telling jokes.

>I'm really not understanding why some of ya'll are so
>triggered and going to these lengths to defend this special.
>
>And I'm a Dave fan.
>

You don't understand because you are calling the wrong people triggered. Here is some examples of triggered

"he joke was "let's shame suicide"

"His voice is going bad- he'll sound like Lucille Ball soon. (Lucille Ball yelling at Mr. Mooney.)"

"If Dave keeps this up he'll get fanbase only the black Joe Rogan can dream of."

"if Breitbart is cosigning your shit to make THEIR point, you have to question yourself. "

and finally saying "See Dave's just being HONEST - and the guys above are also just being honest."

after making a list of right wing sites pushing an agenda.

>>
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>>>And I'm sorry, but if Breitbart is cosigning your shit to
>>make
>>>THEIR point, you have to question yourself.
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>>>
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>>lmao Trump co-signed MLK Jr and Breitbart ran a story about
>>it. If we agree with MLK Jr do we have to question ourselves
>>?
>
>Do you really, honestly, think this is the same?
>

It's the same tactic they always use.

>Can you really not see the difference?
>

You think Breibart is co-signing Dave ?

>I'm going to assume you do, but are just making an absurd
>comparison to make some kind of point.
>
>
>

You think Breibart is on the level and a credible source ? You giving them that much credit ?

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270. "Funny as shit!"
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271. "Finished it earlier. Dem liars/accusers ain't shit for....."
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...changing their testimonies/stories.

Clearly on the take, especially Robson.

David Reed ain't shit...

And weak-minded Afro-masculine-phobic witchhunters ain't shit for believing them.

Doodoo errywhere!



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273. "The perspective of an HONEST"
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Black man in America with some level of socio-political insight.

I share his sentiment and I'm sure a lot of Black men do to.

Comedy was the only place you could tell the truth and not be attacked but now we see that is not a safe place.

I'm call for calling a spade a spade make these liars uncomfortable.

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279. "Tip: Sell you worthless stuff man"
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If you got a bunch of shit laying around and you haven't used it in over 6 months, then you should probably sell it.

Example: I loaned an old PC to an old friend 2 years ago, perfectly fine i3 PC - with an SSD. Legal copy of Windows on it. Installed Word too. I'd have been with him using it and keeping it - or even selling it and keeping the money.

He hadn't used it ONCE in 2 years and he never tried to sell it.

I took it back and sold it on Craiglist for $140 in 30 minutes.

You could probably sell your stuff too.

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281. "Yo these wrong thread comments are wild"
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289. "AHAHAHA, "
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What?

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282. "comedy writer Rae Sanni hammered it home on Twitter"
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@raesanni
I loved (most of) Dave’s special. But the gay/ Kevin Hart/ Louis CK was wack bc he’s smarter than that. A man well researched enough to get all that Jussie Smollet & opioid shit exactly right, went willfully ignorant to justify conclusions that don’t work based on HIS premises.



Dave had to pretend to not understand the impact of a slur said by white ppl to justify his use of gay slurs. Had to pretend he didn’t know Louis CK abused his power at work to justify to bit. Pretend Kevin’s words are meaningless while trying to use words meaningfully.



It made him a liar, when he is so aggressively honest otherwise. That, for me, was the disappointment. Playing dumb to justify being cruel, when he’s the smartest person around.


He was funny the whole way through, but he’s wayyyyy smarter than funny just for the sake of it, and it bummed me out to see a genius play dumb to chase mediocre bits.


(Chappelle is still a GOD to me, so this ain’t that. But all of his past “controversial” bits ppl like to point out to justify these ones never asked him to lie to me or insult his OWN intelligence to get to them.)

  

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283. "Leave it to you...."
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to consistently provide the most bitchazz response in any given post.

Keep going strong, Bra...


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286. "lol"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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284. "finally, another Dave's not woke enough take"
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everything she approved of was funny. everything she didn't approve of was problematic and he needs to catch up

she loves Dave and doesn't agree with what he says about X so it can only mean he's being dishonest.


  

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299. "he doesn't need to be woke. he just needs to shut the fuck about LGBTQ"
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shit that he isnt a part of and doesn't understand

OR learn how to write a joke that DOESN'T also harm us. (lazy fuck)

he needs to learn some fucking empathy

he needs to LISTEN AND LEARN

he needs to not add to the cultural ethos that trans people are a joke

he needs to talk to trans folks that were targeted and harassed right after his special aired.

that's what the fuck his dumb ass needs to do. and NONE of that requires him to be woke.

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302. ""he needs" lol"
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>shit that he isnt a part of and doesn't understand
>
>OR learn how to write a joke that DOESN'T also harm us. (lazy
>fuck)
>
>he needs to learn some fucking empathy
>
>he needs to LISTEN AND LEARN
>
>he needs to not add to the cultural ethos that trans people
>are a joke
>
>he needs to talk to trans folks that were targeted and
>harassed right after his special aired.
>
>that's what the fuck his dumb ass needs to do. and NONE of
>that requires him to be woke.
>
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309. "Naw Dumbmali, he can joke on alphabet ninjaz just as much as anyone else..."
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Nobody is above gettin joked on.

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285. "I actually agree with this part..."
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>Dave had to pretend to not understand the impact of a slur
>said by white ppl to justify his use of gay slurs.


The joke that ended with "I'm not a nigger either" was just so nonsensical that I was like.... nah bruh. I too found it dishonest, but many will argue that being funny is more important than honest or being right. Comedians most often will take the funny route if they can't do both, so that makes him an average comedian. Mediocrity just isn't what I expect from Dave, so it was a bit disappointing to me in that regard. I expect that joke from a comedian I only know from youtube clips that wouldn't even compel me to click the 'like' button.


>It made him a liar

I tend to use that label when people make lying a habit, but I gotta agree that the "I'm not a nigger either" joke was dishonest.
Some justify this by saying no one really takes comedians seriously, and to that I say bullshit, because there's a whole twitter thread on that clip filled with comments like "FACTS!", "100%", "Shut that white exec down!" etc., so there are those people who do think he actually made a great point there.

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290. "equating the fight homosexuals have with the fight"
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Black people or Africans of the forced diaspora is problematic in several ways and no one wants to dead it when folks start making those comparisons.

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292. "That's not what's happening here."
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What you stated is true but isn't the point.

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298. "BLACK GAY PEOPLE EXIST"
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Black and Gay are not always mutually exclusive

so yes, as a Black Queer person, i can DEFINITELY COMPARE struggles.

all day and all night

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301. "And guess what Black Gay people don't run $hit"
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they are just safe pets of a racist caste system set up by Eurasians
where "White" is on top and Black is on the bottom.

Your talking points are trite and weak dear.

There is no comparison to people of the forced African diaspora with people who want to have financial benefits to transfer wealth to their gay lovers.

I'm sure many plantation owners and slavers were flaming homosexuals that pleasured in raping members of the same sex.

Several higher ups in hollywood and media overall are homosexual and racist.

Nobody cares about the gender politics of a colonized people who don't have sense(or enough heart) to see how confusing the fight for "acceptance" sexual behaviors with colonization, genocide and oppression of a people are NOT SIMILAR AT ALL.

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335. "https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif"
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https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif














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291. "a slur said by white people "
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LOL

  

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312. "No one associated with A Black Lady Sketch Show should tell DC how"
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to do comedy.

In fact, this post shows exactly why A Black Lady Sketch Show is so unfunny. That show takes nary a risk and is deathly afraid of offending anyone.

Dave is doing the opposite of what they are trying to do. Dave is trying to make people laugh at what society considers the most sacred and unfunny taboo subject matters. And A Black Lady Sketch Show is, well I don't know, it felt more like the type of comedian who has more applause lines than laugh lines.

Of course there is rooms for both types of comedy, but I am here for the risk takers.



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313. "so she has no point because you dont like her comedy? that's wild"
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328. "you might do well to read her words again"
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she critically said "funny, but this doesnt work because XYZ"

  

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296. "The reviews are in - some white power folks love Dave's HOT TAKES "
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Or, they just love that he's "triggered" the libtards.

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"Chappelle’s done it. Sticks & Stones is a rarity: a perfect piece of art… Nothing could be improved upon, nothing need be touched up. Every brush stroke is exactly where it should be."
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The Federalist Society:
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For many men, the flip side of “My Body, My Choice,” — a longtime mantra of pro-abortion women — is “Your Baby, Your Problem.” In one simple joke, Chappelle made clear the disastrous effects of a culture which degrades sex and relationships to the point where babies are viewed as afterthoughts to be dispensed with rather than precious lives to be cherished.

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Washington Examiner (Trash Conservative rag) (Opinion piece)
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/dave-chappelles-brilliant-new-netflix-special-sticks-and-stones-might-get-him-canceled

This latest bout of outrage is nothing new, as angry social justice types have repeatedly tried to cancel Chappelle in recent years. They might think they’re advancing some warped version of progress, but all they’re really doing is slowly killing comedy. And that's just not funny.

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Jack Posobiec for Town Hall (One of the Pizzagate guys and credentialed press for the Trump White house)
https://townhall.com/columnists/chrisstigall/2019/08/29/dave-chappelle-the-middle-finger-america-needs-n2552347

Title: Dave Chappelle: The Middle Finger America Needs

In the first 100 words "Full disclosure: I haven’t even watched it yet."

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https://thelibertarianrepublic.com/dave-chappelle-offensive-comedy-netflix/
TRIGGERED AMERICA: Dave Chappelle’s ‘Offensive’ Comedy Is Just What the Doctor Ordered

In light of this, I would like to enlighten these woke elitists who are so offended by Chapelle’s jokes.

Comedy is, by nature, offensive.

Comics are supposed to push boundaries and say things that undoubtedly some person or people group will find offensive.

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See Dave's just being HONEST - and the guys above are also just being honest.

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304. "So anything that makes “libs” mad is evil? "
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Most of these folks hate Dave they just love seeing liberals upset.

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320. "Same ppl who'll spike their own healthcare if it means owning the libs"
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If progressives weren't so pissy over this special the breitbart crowd would be largely ignoring it.

if liberals were gushing over this special Dave would be the anti-white "comedian" who thinks dead fetuses and the opiod crisis are laughing matters


>Most of these folks hate Dave they just love seeing liberals
>upset.

  

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306. "I'm not sure I agree with, because bad people like it, it must be bad. "
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Still working through it.


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321. "the quotes you provided pretty much show why it shouldn't matter"
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and that he probably shouldn't have given some white idiots laughing at his jokes the wrong way any power to drive him away to begin with.

  

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324. "Wasn’t it execs in the room that made Dave leave? "
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I think Dave said something like that amount of money changed everything. Probably wanted him to double down and do more nigger shit.

Ionno.

All I know is if a Black man can walk away from that much money and STILL make a shut ton of money... that’s gangster.

I can’t believe Black folk in here on some “but he had an issue with white folks laughing at him” as some type of gotcha moment.



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325. "ahh.. I don't remember "
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and I agree on the gotcha strategy

I dont even see an issue with people being offended by his special and expressing that. It's the Dave needs to change/catch up stuff that's silly and absurd. Dave needs to be Dave, good or bad

  

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327. "My coworker said Dave sounded old"
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I’m like “Dave IS old” lol...

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307. "This thread proves Dave WINS"
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This is what great comedy does... Has folks catching feelings...it means he made us think outside our bubble.

I thought this was by far more superior than his last couple NetFlix Drops. I thought he was flawless throughout the entire night.

My only gripe is how he landed the final punchline. I didn't think the school shootings line was as strong as the Jackson commentary - or the bordain... so it felt kinda flat to me... woulda like to see him end with the killing yourself joke again.


werd.

  

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311. "great comedy has one job."
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its to make me laff. if I can laff at cringy, it works. some of this stuff was more cringy than funny.

not to say there weren't funny parts, it was just aight to me. I didn't see his last ones, so I'll try to check those out.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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314. "his last couple NetFlix Drops"
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I went back and watched...Age of Spin, equanimity and the bird revelation...

I'll get to the Austin City Limits special sometime this week

...but...

There's not a whole lot of new topics covered in Sticks & Stones

Those specials were released over 2 years ago

I think it was Equanimity that really stood out on the rewatch as a direct comparison to the material in Sticks & Stones

...the jokes were new, but the topics were almost identical...

It's really strange to see the level of outrage amped up just 2 years later.

Kevin Hart, Louis CK, MJ, LGBTQ, etc...

Alot of the material that folks are clutching pearls over in 2019...was already covered 2 years ago

Just makes the reactions even more ridiculous, IMO

and makes it very apparent that the country is moving in a certain direction

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315. "I wish I could be this fuckin silly every day"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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318. "FACTS. "
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Folks want to be outraged about the set instead of listening to the message.


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“It was the evidence from science and history that prompted me to abandon my atheism and become a Christian.” — Lee Strobel, The Case for Christ

The Case for Christ Lecture: https://youtu.be/67uj2qvQi_k

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319. "Dave won a long time ago"
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My coworker didn’t dig it. He’s also the type who uses big ass words and says actually a lot

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322. "y'all really let the facebook algorithm tell you what's important"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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329. "see ya in the next post about the thing you don't care about"
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330. "people whining about shit they've made up in their heads"
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I have time for that.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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333. "Unfortunately :("
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I found it funny. I laughed throughout and wasn't bored one bit. I liked it better than a few of his other Netflix specials.

I liked it, not because I agreed with everything he said, but because I watched it with an 'oh, that nigga's wrong for saying that' frame of mind. I thought he had good delivery, set up, and punchline for his jokes.

He wasn't on the right side for a majority of his topics........buuuuut......that shit was funny. He did his job.

I really liked the epilogue and the story about Daphne was nice.

  

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338. ""Unfortunately I enjoyed it" just sounds crazy to me. "
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And not to single you out homey. a lot of this is being expressed out there.

Dude joked about his own son getting killed by a mass shooter. The point was to make us laugh at such a horrible thing. And he pulled it off. And part of pulling it off is that we know:

-He doesn't want his son shot.
-It was intended as a joke and he doesn't really mean literally.
-He doesn't have any animus or hate towards his son.

Not all his jokes can be explained away so easily. but alot of them can.



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344. "oh, it's cool. just bracing myself for the name calling....lol"
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>And not to single you out homey. a lot of this is being
>expressed out there.
>
>Dude joked about his own son getting killed by a mass shooter.
> The point was to make us laugh at such a horrible thing.
>And he pulled it off. And part of pulling it off is that we
>know:
>
>-He doesn't want his son shot.
>-It was intended as a joke and he doesn't really mean
>literally.
>-He doesn't have any animus or hate towards his son.
>
>Not all his jokes can be explained away so easily. but alot of
>them can.
>

For not going along with the crowd. I've been reading comments/think pieces and trying to see it from as many points of view. And I just don't get the outrage.

I guess I am exhibiting straight Black male privilege here but I didn't get any malice or ill will from the special. Dude was just talking shit and fucking with people as comedians should. Comedians are not a moral authority so they shouldn't be held to those standards. They just simply tell us how they see the world and try to make it as funny as possible during the process.

I read reviews/comments beforehand and went into it expecting to be offended and ready to jump on the bandwagon and start bashing. What I got instead was an enjoyable hour of comedy where I laughed my ass off. I wanted not to laugh because a lot of people said it wasn't funny, but I couldn't help it. I saw what he was doing, his jokes connected.....fuck it. I enjoyed this special more than a few of his others. The epilogue brought it home for me.

  

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339. "Think-piece culture sucks."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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342. "RE: Think-piece culture sucks."
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In a pic

https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69440831_10206328776455191_7608413850513178624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQkAJKzaNiJVg14_QFF3-Z0uEa48v6-3FSVHY_PKqAjFWwn50h0J-RBNaTmmFVxUnDw&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=9bf77cc16d90a871357cca78e3fba5bd&oe=5E14FAFF

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343. "ha. "
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>https://scontent-lga3-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/69440831_10206328776455191_7608413850513178624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&_nc_oc=AQkAJKzaNiJVg14_QFF3-Z0uEa48v6-3FSVHY_PKqAjFWwn50h0J-RBNaTmmFVxUnDw&_nc_ht=scontent-lga3-1.xx&oh=9bf77cc16d90a871357cca78e3fba5bd&oe=5E14FAFF

  

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346. "wow."
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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347. "i liked it more on the second watch"
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I heard he has one more coming out around the new year?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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348. "and the plot thickens (swipe)"
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Dave probably just needs to just chill for a minute..

Doubling down on the trans jokes + that suicide joke about Bourdain = not great timing for the comedian who said timing is everything.

https://www.newsweek.com/daphne-dorman-dead-trans-comedian-dave-chappelle-special-1464880

"Daphne Dorman, the trans comedian and activist, has died by suicide according to officials. She was 44 years old.

The Office of Transgender Initiatives for the City and County of San Francisco confirmed her death to the New York Daily News after she appeared to say goodbye to loved ones in a Facebook post on Friday.

Becky Kugler, who described herself as Dorman's sister, confirmed the comic had died in a message on the social media platform.

"It is with great sadness and despair to hand out this information," Kugler wrote beneath Dorman's last post. "Sweet, sweet Daphne. I so wish we could all have helped you through your darkness. We'll always love you, fly high sweet angel."

Dorman, who was from Philadelphia but lived in the Bay Area of San Francisco, described herself as an actress, activist, author, and advocate in her Twitter bio. She was listed on her Facebook page as a standup comedian.

She had a career as a stage and TV actor spanning 12 years, according to her LinkedIn profile, which included two years on the shopping channel QVC. Dorman was also director of operations for The Actors Center of Philadelphia, where she taught stage combat and improvisation.

Her varied career also saw her setting up a wildlife preserve for primates at sea turtles in Equatorial Guinea. Most recently, she was a software engineer for the Vineti gene therapy platform. As a volunteer with the San Francisco LGBT Center, Dorman shared her skills with transgender people looking for careers in the tech industry.

In 2016, Dorman took part in the San Francisco LGBT Center's Trans at Work campaign highlighting the obstacles trans folk face in the workplace. She told Buzzfeed at the time: "In a world with many obstacles for trans folks, I'm honored and grateful to have the opportunity to help others develop skills they can use to overcome some of those challenges. We all deserve a chance to succeed."

Dorman hit headlines over the summer, after comedian Dave Chappelle spoke of her in his Netflix special Sticks and Stones. Chappelle was criticized for making jokes about trans people in the show.

In a hidden extra, Chappelle recalled becoming friends with a trans woman. According to LGBT news website Pink News, Chappelle said Dorman was at a practice show, and was the member of the audience "laughing the hardest."

"Dorman wrote on Instagram on August 26: "Yeah, you know, it's just that moment when you realize that after Dave Chappelle talks about meeting you in the secret ending of his new Netflix special, you see your photo appears immediately after Barack Obama's photo in the credits."


Dozens of people paid tribute to Dorman beneath her Facebook post.

The San Fransisco Office of Transgender Intiatives wrote on Twitter: "To our TGNC community, we love you.

"We are saddened to learn about of loss of Daphne Dorman today who was a beloved community member.

"If you need support, please reach out to @TransLifeline and @TRANSTHRIVE will be open for drop ins today and tomorrow (Friday and Saturday)."

  

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349. "has nothing to do with Dave."
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350. "Sounds like she was honored to be in his show. "
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and I get the whole timing of it all since he had the Bourdain joke but the gist of it wasn’t joking suicide. Just letting folks know how everyone deals with life differently and you never know what will push someone to that point.

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352. "RE: has nothing to do with Dave."
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It probably doesn't, but you know it will get thrown back at him by "the T's." . Of course, that's nothing new for him; however, with death/suicide intimately in the mix, it could make it more difficult for him to just laugh it off this time.

  

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356. "The reason most people know who she is IS because of"
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Dave mentioning her, despite seemingly having a somewhat successful career in multiple performing arts.

Also R.I.P. /shout out to her doing stuff in my Home town!

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
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372. "absolute zero on Dave"
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clearly a mental health issue
RIP to shorty

  

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351. "(just chill) i believe everything Dave said about Daphne"
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her laughter,
their interaction afterwards,
her perspective of his comedic genius in general,
and her hopes of his words to normalize the LGBTQ community

its odd that you don't

either you skipped the Sticks and Stones epilogue
or you think Dave was flat out lying

  

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353. "RIP"
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it's def already being framed that way by some as "Trans woman Chappelle joked about in special commits suicide" because fuck context and all

even though she had tweeted this https://twitter.com/DaphneDorman/status/1166937728681791488

all that said, in a general sense it should be a reminder that suicide rates among Trans people are sky high, and Dave doesn't *need* to keep joking about them, even if he's not trying to be malicious about it. Maybe back off this one

  

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355. "How dare you..."
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have a balanced, nuanced opinion about this? LOL.

Well said.



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357. "Well said. And RIP Daphne."
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>it's def already being framed that way by some as "Trans
>woman Chappelle joked about in special commits suicide"
>because fuck context and all
>
>even though she had tweeted this
>https://twitter.com/DaphneDorman/status/1166937728681791488
>
>all that said, in a general sense it should be a reminder that
>suicide rates among Trans people are sky high, and Dave
>doesn't *need* to keep joking about them, even if he's not
>trying to be malicious about it. Maybe back off this one

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358. "exactly. Her suicide is not his fault. However, words have power."
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What Dave and other mainstream comics fail to acknowledge is when they traffic in ridiculing vulnerable people for laughs, there can be ripple effects that will never touch those comics, but have dangerous and life-threatening potential consequence for others

to everyone that thought that shit was hilarious...are you in any potential danger from the collective attitude/disdain for LGBTQ folk?

if the answer is no, you have no right to complain about the rightful critique of his highly-visible special.

And whether or not she enjoyed his special is irrelevant...clearly she was suffering from the very thing he was so gleefully making fun of.

  

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359. "This is well said, too. I agree."
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>RE: exactly. Her suicide is not his fault. However, words have power.
>What Dave and other mainstream comics fail to acknowledge is
>when they traffic in ridiculing vulnerable people for laughs,
>there can be ripple effects that will never touch those
>comics, but have dangerous and life-threatening potential
>consequence for others
>
>to everyone that thought that shit was hilarious...are you in
>any potential danger from the collective attitude/disdain for
>LGBTQ folk?
>
>if the answer is no, you have no right to complain about the
>rightful critique of his highly-visible special.
>
>And whether or not she enjoyed his special is
>irrelevant...clearly she was suffering from the very thing he
>was so gleefully making fun of.

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360. "Yeah but she countered your point about punching down"
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https://twitter.com/DaphneDorman/status/1166937728681791488


Punching down requires you to consider yourself superior to another group. @DaveChappelle doesn't consider himself better than me in any way. He isn't punching up or punching down. He's punching lines. That's his job and he's a master of his craft.

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361. "yeah, no"
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>
>https://twitter.com/DaphneDorman/status/1166937728681791488
>
>
>Punching down requires you to consider yourself superior to
>another group. @DaveChappelle doesn't consider himself better
>than me in any way. He isn't punching up or punching down.
>He's punching lines. That's his job and he's a master of his
>craft.


that isn't the definition or criteria of punching down. its about whether you ACTUALLY HAVE PRIVILEGE or STATUS above another group...not whether you THINK you do. So then white people can claim they don't see themselves as better than Black people and make jokes about welfare queens? I think not.

and she would have had no way of knowing with any certainty if he felt he was superior to anyone

but most importantly...fuck all any of that matters anymore. This woman was suffering in the most awful way and its heartbreaking that she felt the need to take her life for any reason.

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363. "isn't everyone vulnerable?"
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364. "semantics isn't my game. you can play alone"
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way to miss the point tho.

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369. "not playing (semantics), but ill educate myself more"
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365. "the average life expectancy of a trans woman is between 30-35 yrs old."
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https://www.oas.org/en/iachr/lgtbi/docs/Annex-Registry-Violence-LGBTI.pdf

over 80% will have been murdered or committed suicide by then.

theres vulnerable.

then theres *vulnerable*.

  

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368. "good point."
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370. " wow"
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>https://www.oas.org/en/iachr/lgtbi/docs/Annex-Registry-Violence-LGBTI.pdf
>
>over 80% will have been murdered or committed suicide by
>then.

  

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371. "That's not what this report says at all, lol"
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you be bullshitting a LOT bruh

it says that of the 770 acts of violence against LBGT people in the OAS states that this report analyzed, 80% of the deaths by trans people were under the age of 35.

That's very, VERY different than saying 80% of trans people die by violent death or suicide...especially when we know that Trans people have the lowest violent death rate of just about every demo in the western world.

  

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379. "umm, Reeq? lol.. this is a bad look if true. "
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382. "Reeq? "
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Lol

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417. "all twitter and no real life makes reeq a dull boy"
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387. "You should read this. "
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There are problems when it comes to tracking crimes against trans people, murders of trans people, and suicides of trans people on record, for a number of reasons detailed below. It's indisputable, however, that trans people receive an exorbitant rate of harassment and criminal treatment.

(Also, Reeq's main scary point-- the point about their life expectancy? Yeah, that's true and still stands. And again, due to frequent misgendering by family members of those who die, that life expectancy may be on the *high* end.)

http://assets2.hrc.org/files/assets/resources/HRC-AntiTransgenderViolence-0519.pdf

In 2014, at least 13 transgender people were murdered in the United States, and at least 19 were murdered in 2013. Their deaths were gruesome — involving gunshots, burning, strangulation and beating — and many have gone unsolved. These totals represent only the known victims; there may very well be countless other victims of fatal anti-transgender violence whose deaths we will never know about because police, the press or family members have consistently misidentified them based on their assigned sex and name at birth. Even in many of the known cases, local media reports misgendered the victims and used their birth names. The local media also further stigmatized some
of these women by highlighting arrest records and using mugshots instead of personal photos.

While awareness about violence against the transgender community is improving, there are still major barriers to data collection and reporting. Following the passage of the Matthew Shepard and James Byrd, Jr. Hate Crimes Prevention Act in 2009, the FBI began tracking bias-motivated crimes based on the victim’s actual or perceived gender identity. While this data is incredibly valuable, it does not paint a complete picture of hate crimes against LGBT Americans because the vast majority of jurisdictions either fail to report their data or inaccurately report that they have had no hate crimes in their jurisdiction.

An analysis of the FBI’s Hate Crime Statistics, 2013 report, the most recent data available, showed that at least three killings — Islan Nettles
in New York, Cece Dove in Ohio and Diamond Williams in Philadelphia — went unreported despite evidence that the perpetrators were clearly motivated by the victim’s gender identity. Nettles’ assailants were shouting homophobic and transphobic slurs while they attacked her; and both Dove’s and Williams’ assailants admitted to killing them specifically because they were transgender. But not one of these incidents was reported to the FBI as a bias-motivated crime. In fact, in the FBI’s 2013 report, only 33 crimes motivated by gender identity were reported nationwide, and none of those were murder or non-negligent manslaughter.

Hate crime laws, accurate reporting of bias-motivated incidents, and proper characterization of a crime as one based on gender identity are essential tools that can be used to address anti-transgender violence. However, the lack of accurate and reliable data collection makes it impossible for advocates to know how widespread this violence really is.

Among the 53 known transgender victims from 2013-2015:
• At least 46, or 87 percent, were
transgender people of color. Among those, at least 39 were African American and 6 were Latino/a.
• At least 46 were transgender women, one was a transgender man, and the identities of other victims were gender non- conforming or unclear.
• 39, or 74 percent, were under the age of 35 at the time of their deaths, and the average age of all the victims was less than 31 years old.
• At least 8, or 15 percent, were killed by intimate partners.
• At least 18, or 34 percent, were or likely may have been engaged in survival sex work at the time of their deaths.
• 18, or 34 percent, were killed in the Southeast, more than twice that of any other region in the country.
• Only 16, or 30 percent, were killed in states that have hate crime laws that account for crimes motivated by the victim’s gender identity;
but despite these provisions and a federal hate crime law, not a single one of these murders was prosecuted or reported to the FBI as a hate crime.

The patterns found in these crimes are indicative of the widespread violence and harassment the transgender community faces every
day in the United States — particularly transgender women of color who disproportionately live in poverty.
In addition to the data and reporting challenges highlighted in this report, the existing data on the size of the transgender population in the United States is limited, complicating further analysis of this data. A conservative estimate, based on the information
we do have, however, shows that transgender women face 4.3 times the risk of becoming homicide victims than the general population of all women.

According to the National Coalition of Anti-Violence Programs (NCAVP) 2013 report on hate violence against lesbian, bisexual, transgender, queer and HIV-affected communities, 72 percent of the victims of LGBTQ or HIV-motivated hate violence homicides in 2013 were transgender women,and 67 percent were transgender women of color. When compared to their non-transgender LGBQ and HIV- affected peers, the report found that transgender people of color were 6 times more likely to experience physical violence from the police, 1.5 times more likely to experience discrimination, 1.5 times more likely to face sexual violence and 1.8 times more likely to experience bias-based violence in shelters.

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412. "I've seen this before, and it kinda draws attention to its own flaws"
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Which are glaring (you don't know if you can identify who is trans? So how can you accurately aggregate data?)
First off that number about trans life expectency is hella contentious. Every place that quotes it never gives the data to support it, or how the info was aggregated. That's a problem.

Re: the specific info in your doc, sounds like the problem of American poverty for poor Black males.
IPV in poor, Black communities looks the same, no matter what "identity" people claim...either killed by partners/acquintances with untreated issues or victims are engaged in illegal activity to survive, and encountering dangerous people/circumstances as a result.
the vast majority of the the trans killed were Black male sex workers in poverty using sex work and other illegal activity to fund themselves/their medical needs.

Instead of empty liberal moralizing, changing policies to alleviate poverty, provide healthcare and housing for poor Black people (including males, and males who consider themselves "trans") would have saved the lives of virtually all those victims.

ALSO, the fact that the number of trans murders is that low (and in America, any national, multi-ethnic demo with under 70 murders in a year, much less THREE years, is low)?
People are rightfully gonna look sideways at "trans activism" that uses that data as a jumping off point.


You should read some gender critical feminist work around the problems with trans theory in re: to women, the gay community & legal challenges to the protections that women have gained.

And some Black sociology about IPV in our communities



  

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373. "We have no idea why daphne committed suicide"
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literally no idea.
What thing was she "suffering from that he made fun of"?

  

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354. "no it doesnt (RIP still tho)"
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362. "have dave and the people who love this special"
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taken any action that makes life easier on people like the woman who died?

idk man

you don't have to tell me about what it is and what it isn't, and who is or is not phobic or anti or whatever, just tell me what you're doing.

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366. "dave lowkey did some tokenism shit."
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'hey a trans person laughed at my trans jokes so anyone complaining (trans or otherwise) is overreacting'.

the one/few apparently diminishes the many.

im old enough to remember when people said the ted danson blackface routine was cool cuz his black girlfriend (whoopi goldberg) thought it was funny.

  

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374. "Not even lowkey. That's exactly what he did."
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And it was wack as fuck

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375. "Nah that didn't happen"
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It's one thing if you don't like the jokes but just making up stuff is going too far.

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376. "Tokenism....or challenging groupthink?"
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>'hey a trans person laughed at my trans jokes so anyone
>complaining (trans or otherwise) is overreacting'.
>
>the one/few apparently diminishes the many.
>
>im old enough to remember when people said the ted danson
>blackface routine was cool cuz his black girlfriend (whoopi
>goldberg) thought it was funny.
>

Because to me, groupthink is more dangerous. In a nutshell, Dave said I don't understand lgbtqia and here is why I don't understand. Dave illustrated with jokes. He didn't advocate laws to be passed against nor call for violence. There is nothing wrong with saying 'I don't understand'. And that's what I got from his special when it came to that particular topic. He doesn't understand the 'Rachel Dolezal' types (i.e. I've been Chinese my whole life) nor certain segments of the lgbtqia. Will he always be this way? That remains to be seen. But he should be allowed growth like everyone else. For that special, it is a snapshot of where he is at now.

RIP Daphne. I don't think Dave was using tokenism at all. I believe he was adding her voice along to the many other voices of comics that denounce censorship in comedy.

  

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377. "both"
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378. "Thank you"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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380. "except it's not "censorship""
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381. "It is censorship if actions are taken to suppress his speech"
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Censorship

From the link:
"Censorship is the suppression of speech, public communication, or other information, on the basis that such material is considered objectionable, harmful, sensitive, or "inconvenient." Censorship can be conducted by governments, private institutions, and corporations."


Any *organized* attempt to suppress one's lawful speech is censorship.

  

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383. "GOVERNMENTS, private institutions, corporations."
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Where are any of those things involved?
People misunderstanding censorship and free speech is so annoying.

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384. "Governments aren't friing people from their jobs or cancelling appearanc..."
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Those are the private organizations and corporations listed in the definition of "censorship". Those are the entities enforcing censorship.

I know you read it because you capitalized "government," so that makes this statement ironic:

>Where are any of those things involved?
>People misunderstanding censorship and free speech is so annoying.

Understand now?

  

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That's not it, chief.

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404. "Just ignore a literal definition because it doesn't fit your world view"
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SMH. Y'all dudes are spineless. No reason to waste time with this shit. Y'all just repeat what you've been told to.

  

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410. "it ain't got shit to do with the definition. it has everything to do wit..."
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People complain about "censorship" because they can't make the distinction between Censorship (ie govt. ie you will be arrested if you say/talk about xyz ie freedom of speech) and "censorship" (the corporate censorship you seem to think is happening here).
It seems to me you'd be quite upset if Walmart fired Tony for saying "Sally got some tig ol fucking bitties!" because "corporate censorship."

And then theres the fact the neither of these situations apply to Dave.

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393. "jesus christ these dudes are losers"
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385. "... how was Dave's voice suppressed at *all*, lmao?"
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Last I checked, he's getting paid millions to say whatever he wants on a giant corporate platform.

When people on Twitter or Vice or wherever say, "Hey, what Dave Chappelle said is shitty and hurtful," that's not remotely censorship. That's criticism. They aren't suppressing him, because they're in no position to do so. They're trying to make people realize that a multi-millionaire comedian isn't necessarily right by virtue of his station as a success.

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390. "thankfully there is a word called 'precedence'"
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>Last I checked, he's getting paid millions to say whatever he
>wants on a giant corporate platform.
>
>When people on Twitter or Vice or wherever say, "Hey, what
>Dave Chappelle said is shitty and hurtful," that's not
>remotely censorship. That's criticism. They aren't suppressing
>him, because they're in no position to do so. They're trying
>to make people realize that a multi-millionaire comedian isn't
>necessarily right by virtue of his station as a success.

And the backlash that he and those like him are receiving is setting precedence where speaking on a certain group if totally off limits. And when it it comes to comedy, the expansion of limitations is very unsettling.

  

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391. "what backlash has dave received?"
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he was paid millions, repeatedly, and continues to tour the world.

show me the backlash you lying motherfucker

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395. "for a celebrity, constant negative press"
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>he was paid millions, repeatedly, and continues to tour the
>world.
>
>show me the backlash you lying motherfucker
>
>www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at


It's a good thing you can't read though.

  

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396. "lying ass "
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literally everyone gets negative press.

you cannot claim that his words don't cause offense. but also claim that people saying they don't like his comedy special is restricting freedom.

go be a loser somewhere else and tell people how I've restricted your freedom of speech.

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400. "yep, you definitely cannot read"
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Why reply? You are making it worse. I'll get you in contact with someone to enroll you in a remedial course.

  

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403. "you actually have $100?"
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**applause**

Knowing you, it was a typo and you meant $1.00

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405. "I'm talking about the definition of cencorship, not Dave's personal stor..."
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Again, y'all ain't gonna address anything I write. Just the lame deflections, strawmen and moving goalposts.

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386. "I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement."
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The statement that jokes that perpetuate misunderstandings of disenfranchised groups are "challenging groupthink," and that this sort of challenge is a noble endeavor.

I assume, if groupthink is one of the great dangers today, that Kanye must also be a hero to anyone who feels this way, right? Because Kanye is absolutely publicly challenging groupthink of topics like "Trump is bad" and "slavery wasn't a choice." Of course, the group is *correct* on these charges-- so is challenging groupthink still a noble endeavor in his case?

Trans suicide rates are ridiculously high, and a *huge* reason that is is because so many people dismiss them as "guys who wanna put on heels and play dress-up." Which is 100% what Dave's jokes are rooted in. If this misleading stereotype is designed to perpetuate misunderstanding about trans people, and Dave is parroting these stereotypes in his comedy... then how else are people supposed to interpret what he's saying?

Dave has done brilliant bits in the past that are designed to tell truth to power-- but he knows, at this point, that people feel his comments about trans people are hurtful, and he continues to double down on them. This isn't a comic telling truth to power, because trans people have no power. This isn't a comic trying to reveal something new about trans people, because his jokes are simple stereotype recitation. If he was *honestly* trying to work through his misunderstandings on trans people, there are avenues he could take that would be faaaar more effective than telling lazy stereotype jokes on a massive corporate platform to millions.

I love Dave, I think he's a brilliant comedian, and he's got at least two of my favorite specials *of all time*-- but he's dead wrong for how he's approaching trans people in his jokes, and he's dead wrong for how he's reacted to people's concerns.

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399. "RE: I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement."
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>The statement that jokes that perpetuate misunderstandings of
>disenfranchised groups are "challenging groupthink," and that
>this sort of challenge is a noble endeavor.

He said he don't get it. Why would you want him to pretend to understand? Just to go along with the current trend of acceptance? He put his ignorance on display which is a bold move for a celebrity because he knows it can cost him and have his career relentlessly picked apart. People are not understanding of everyone at all times and to pretend that we all 'get it' is total nonsense.

Did you watch the special? What joke was particularly hurtful or mean spirited to the lgbtqia community?

Is the community so fragile that they can't be joked upon? No people on the planet has had it as bad as the lgbtqia community?

>I assume, if groupthink is one of the great dangers today,
>that Kanye must also be a hero to anyone who feels this way,
>right? Because Kanye is absolutely publicly challenging
>groupthink of topics like "Trump is bad" and "slavery wasn't a
>choice." Of course, the group is *correct* on these charges--
>so is challenging groupthink still a noble endeavor in his
>case?

No, not exactly. But the 'Black face' Democrats/liberals are not a friend to the African American community as we'd like to think. Doesn't mean go all alt right either but there is nothing wrong with challenging the status quo. Groupthink is going along with with the most popular opinion/belief despite sufficient countering evidence. 'Trump is bad' and 'slavery wasn't a choice' isn't necessarily groupthink because there is sufficient evidence supporting it.

The dangers of groupthink is Germany. I'll leave it at that because I assume you know where I am going with it.

>Trans suicide rates are ridiculously high, and a *huge* reason
>that is is because so many people dismiss them as "guys who
>wanna put on heels and play dress-up." Which is 100% what
>Dave's jokes are rooted in. If this misleading stereotype is
>designed to perpetuate misunderstanding about trans people,
>and Dave is parroting these stereotypes in his comedy... then
>how else are people supposed to interpret what he's saying?

Trans suicide rates are high because people joke about them? Trans people have it worse than decimated African descendant communities across the globe? Jay Edgard Hoover had it worse than Martin Luther King Jr.? Millionaire Trump supporter Caitlyn Jenner can support a misogynistic rapist/racist but comedians cannot make jokes about her?

Trans suicide rates may be high, but jokes are not the sole reason. There are other things happening that needs to be looked into.

Nobody is stopping them from living their life. No laws, no call to violence; especially in this comedy special. Dave wasn't being dismissive, just not understanding the psychology of the new normal and the ever expansion of the lgbtqia (i.e. the alphabet people).

>Dave has done brilliant bits in the past that are designed to
>tell truth to power-- but he knows, at this point, that people
>feel his comments about trans people are hurtful, and he
>continues to double down on them. This isn't a comic telling
>truth to power, because trans people have no power. This isn't
>a comic trying to reveal something new about trans people,
>because his jokes are simple stereotype recitation. If he was
>*honestly* trying to work through his misunderstandings on
>trans people, there are avenues he could take that would be
>faaaar more effective than telling lazy stereotype jokes on a
>massive corporate platform to millions.
>

Dave is not telling truth to power. Dave is telling his truth. And because he is a comedian, the way he told it was funny. It's subjective, I know, but it made a good bit.

There are mean spirited bits and jokes out there that can be meant to harm. Dave's special is not it. It's important to know the difference.

  

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402. "RE: I'm always fairly blown by this kind of statement."
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>>The statement that jokes that perpetuate misunderstandings
>of
>>disenfranchised groups are "challenging groupthink," and
>that
>>this sort of challenge is a noble endeavor.
>
>He said he don't get it. Why would you want him to pretend to
>understand?

He doesn't need to understand it if it has nothing to do with him or isn't stopping his life in any way. I have zero understanding of many things regarding other people's personal lives.

Just to go along with the current trend of
>acceptance?

Yes because accepting other people for who they are costs him NOTHING. it does not stop his life in any way or anyone else's life. yes. ACCEPT TRANS FOLK. period.

He put his ignorance on display which is a bold
>move for a celebrity because he knows it can cost him and have
>his career relentlessly picked apart.

being criticized isn't a COST. it's a part of being in the public eye. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in the public eye is criticized picked apart all the time...whether they put ignorance OR intelligence on display. See: Obama for reference.

being ignorant in public isn't bold at all.


>Is the community so fragile that they can't be joked upon?

actually, yes because the community's lives are at stake. the real COST is to trans folk who are murdered, bullied, harrassed, fired etc. The trans community is fragile because they are fighting for their very survivial. If you can't understand that simple fact, you simply don't want to. You choose to turn a blind eye to this fact.


No
>people on the planet has had it as bad as the lgbtqia
>community?

So now you trying to play the suffering olympics? fuck outta here with that reductive ass strawman logic.


>Trans people have it worse than decimated African descendant
>communities across the globe? Jay Edgard Hoover had it worse
>than Martin Luther King Jr.? Millionaire Trump supporter
>Caitlyn Jenner can support a misogynistic rapist/racist but
>comedians cannot make jokes about her?

where did he say anything about comparing who has it worse? why do you think mentioning how much suffering some other group/person has endured supports your argument? like where did people stupidly learn to debate in this way?

LOL

>Trans suicide rates may be high

not MAY BE. they ARE. clearly, that doesn't concern you at all.

, but jokes are not the sole
>reason.

glad to see you acknowledge that they are part of the reason.

There are other things happening that needs to be
>looked into.

and you're going to do that? excellent!! Please update us on your findings and your plan for what you recommend should be done to combat suicide in the trans community.


>Nobody is stopping them from living their life. No laws, no
>call to violence; specially in this comedy special. Dave
>wasn't being dismissive, just not understanding the psychology
>of the new normal and the ever expansion of the lgbtqia (i.e.
>the alphabet people).

If you are not trans, you do not get to say what effect the special has or has not had on their lives. PERIOD. You are speaking on shit you have no way to know about. Fucking hell...like who the fuck are you to make such a declaration?


It's important to
>know the difference.

It's also important for you to learn to shut the fuck up about a community you aren't a part of and KNOW NOTHING ABOUT.

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406. "Are you trans?"
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Because based on your own logic you should shut the fuck up too!

Trans people are people. People! Not some exception where they have their own little settlement in some corner of America. They are equal and apart of this world like everyone else. To sit back and be like, 'you can make fun of Black, Hispanic, White.....but trans, they are so fragile, you have to leave them alone' is bullshit.

Shit disproportionately affects Blacks, immigrants, women, so on and so forth. That's the world.

I am apart of this world so I am allowed to talk my shit and people are allowed to talk their shit about me. Right or wrong. I am not apart of a community so I should be silent and not hold an opinion? Really? Is that how the world works? Grow the fuck up. People should hold no opinion on Muslims, Christians, atheists, white supremacists, pedophiles? Opinions (...of course many other things) are what makes us human. Your logic is so flawed it's ridiculous.

Today there is a stronger presence behind the lgbtqia community, shit will change. It's changing now because there is more open support than ever before, and will continue. Their issues are on the political forefront, up there with immigration, ahead of many other issues (BLM, climate change); especially on the Democratic ticket.

To treat them as some endangered species that is about to become extinct, and therefore needs some force field of protection on all fronts, is wrong. That's not making them 'human'....it is making them into an 'other'. And it is that 'other' category that makes it harder for acceptance and perpetuates discrimination.

  

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409. "imagine being this much of a loser every day"
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416. "imagine being illiterate "
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where everyone knows to the point that they just stop responding to you.

  

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389. "you notice how no one has any answer for the original question?"
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but you think you can identify groupthink

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415. "this is both silly & fucked up"
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432. "it's fucked up to ask what you're doing to help people?"
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we’re all a bunch hypocrites, if we’re honest.. my soul winced at the 36 year old pussy joke lol

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"moderator"

  

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419. "Mark Twain Prize for American Humor (link to ceremony)"
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https://www.pbs.org/video/dave-chappelle-the-kennedy-center-mark-twain-prize-qbmxgn/

Congrats to big homie.

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420. "Didn't Jay Leno win that award too? Congrats to that big homie too"
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a very fearless and uncompromising comedian, jay leno.

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433. "Dude I'm sorry buy Jay Leno was fucking hilarious"
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You'd see little evidence of it on The Tonight Show - but he was a GOAT stand-up from 80-87.

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434. "I wouldn't describe him as fearless and uncompromising, even then."
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I never said he was unskilled or even a bad comedian.

it's just not quite the "you really took a bullet for free speech" award these fuckos are trying to make it.

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421. "Brennan's Half Baked story was pretty funny"
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Half Baked is still funny as shit to me, even though Dave and them shit on it like it's the worst movie ever.

  

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"RIGHT! I don't understand why they bash it so much"


  

          

Given, it wasn't a cinematic masterpiece

But we loved that movie

Still quote it

anytime someone uses B as a pronoun

c'mon...that's a cult classic

The more they cut it down...the more I feel like I have poor taste or something

Brennan was funny

Never saw him do a set

He's kinda awkward, but hilarious too

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426. "'Cuban B' alone puts it in the hall of fame"
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that shit is FUNNY

  

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423. "RIGHT! I don't understand why they bash it so much"
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Given, it wasn't a cinematic masterpiece

But we loved that movie

Still quote it

anytime someone uses B as a pronoun

c'mon...that's a cult classic

The more they cut it down...the more I feel like I have poor taste or something

Brennan was funny

Never saw him do a set

He's kinda awkward, but hilarious too

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recognition.

And I am side-eyeing the black people who can't appreciate it....old crabs in a barrel ass negroes.



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424. "Yeah, it really hit me when K. won the pulitzer for DAMN"
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Even if you're not a fan, you have to acknowledge what incredible achievements these awards are

Also, in the wake of losing some incredible entertainers

I'm all for celebrating someone while they're here to receive it.

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427. "just watched it on Netflix last night, overall I thought it was great..."
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and it was great to finally see his family that is a source of a lot of his material.

On one hand I feel like it was kind of mainstreamed and "whitewashed" with Jon Stewart and Sarah Silverman being the main hosts but I feel like that was done that way for a reason. Another of the comedians that came out joked about the audience that he didn't know that many old white people were Chappelle fans.

Overall I think he definitely deserved the honor but I was also left thinking about who was or wasn't there and who did and didn't participate as far as black comedians and who's decision was it. Of course Tiffany Haddish opened the show, Eddie did a nice video piece. There were multiple camera shots of Chris Tucker sitting next to Marlon Wayans in the audience. Others were noticeably absent.

Multiple shots of Chance the Rapper in the audience for whatever reason.

  

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430. "Nah that shit was kinda live"
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>On one hand I feel like it was kind of mainstreamed and
>"whitewashed" with Jon Stewart and Sarah Silverman being the
>main hosts but I feel like that was done that way for a
>reason.

I think it was more so because Jon and Sarah came up with him back in the early days. Jon was in Half-Baked when nobody knew who tf he was. 'Cause I tried to go back and watch some of the other award winners on PBS like Eddie Murphy and a few others. Those are whitewashed. They're boring as hell. The Dave one was lit.


Another of the comedians that came out joked about the
>audience that he didn't know that many old white people were
>Chappelle fans.

If you ain't up on Michael Che stop reading this and go watch his special on Netflix right now.

  

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431. "Che’s special was hilarious. Didn’t know he was the funny "
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Sarah was trash tho.. only one worse than her speech was Bradley Cooper. It’s like this people didn’t know they were going g to speak before they arrived at the event.

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429. "I LOVED it..."
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someone tell SuiteLady I found me a favorite, lol

I had the pleasure of meeting him once in Buffalo. well, I stood behind my lover as he talked to him from the window of his tour bus. He was so cool...

told my lover, “that nigga real”

I still have the tix stubs, lol

  

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435. "2 Emmys. gives shot out to critics"
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https://www.vulture.com/2020/09/dave-chappelle-acceptance-speech-emmys-2020.html

  

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436. "Not only did he win - he was able to angrily whine too!"
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He got paid.

He has super fans.

He won the awards.

he got to get ANGRY about winning and people having the NERVE to give him criticism that he didn't like. (As people say - awards are criticism too.)

Still don't think it's funny - but good for him.

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437. "lol not like they asked him about the nba playoffs"
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and he was like "fuck those critics, man!"

if you're gonna express how you feel about your critics, might as well do it while you're accepting an award for the thing they shit on.

*shrug*

  

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441. "....the critics are also the people who gave him the award"
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443. "^Sees it"
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He only wants criticism that he likes.

And EVERYONE ELSE should keep their mouth shit. Not just egregious trolls - but EVERYONE.

Good for him - but I can see it for what it is.

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444. "RE: ^Sees it"
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>He only wants criticism that he likes.
>
>And EVERYONE ELSE should keep their mouth shit. Not just
>egregious trolls - but EVERYONE.
>
>Good for him - but I can see it for what it is.
>
>
Is this a direct quote from Dave? If so, please cite.

  

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447. "He says to critics "Shut the fuck up for ever""
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CFWI4bLnH-_/?utm_source=ig_embed

He's trying to make it a joke - but you can HEAR THE TRUTH in his voice.

Again, nice for him. He's got paid. Got an award. People love him.





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449. "RE: He says to critics "Shut the fuck up for ever""
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I don’t see how that entirely correlates to the words you attributed to Dave. Are you sure that he is only speaking for himself? A lot of other comedians have voiced the same concerns/anger.

  

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454. "^I see that"
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>I don’t see how that entirely correlates to the words you
>attributed to Dave. Are you sure that he is only speaking for
>himself? A lot of other comedians have voiced the same
>concerns/anger.

Yup, since they are "edgy" comedians then ALL negative criticism is bad from their point of view.

Look, in his case , I understand that he has been subjected to intense, crushing pressure from every direction - most of it vindictive and meant to hurt him.

So he lives in a space where it makes sense that any criticism feels like a direct attack on him personally trying to destroy him. (Much of it is designed to be exactly that.)

Doesn't mean I have to agree that he , who is putting out entertainment, should be free from any criticism he doesn't agree with.

I can see who's a right wing or left wing troll - and it's not all of them.

Dave seems honest and is trying, while many of the other comedians who have been criticized are just assholes with views that people don't agree with.

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446. "I'm sure a "No Dave, I will not STFU" thinkpiece"
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will say goofy hyperbolic things like this

>He only wants criticism that he likes.
>
>And EVERYONE ELSE should keep their mouth shit. Not just
>egregious trolls - but EVERYONE.
>
>Good for him - but I can see it for what it is.
>
>

  

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448. "HYPERBOLIC"
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if you want the critics to stop saying stuff, don't show up for their awards show. you are literally validating them with your participation.

but he doesn't care either way, he's just fucking whining

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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451. "thanks, twitter"
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453. "an award he basically said we shouldn't give a fuck about"
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Chappelle went on to shout-out fellow nominees Tiffany Haddish, Patton Oswalt, Hannah Gadsby, and “brother Mulaney,” reassuring them with his take on the results: “I’m sorry you didn’t win tonight, but who gives a fuck anyway?”

  

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439. "That’s the best time to tell y’all critics to stfu"
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Edit: damn, he really told y’all to stfu. I was just embellishing... lol”

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440. "lol"
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>Edit: damn, he really told y’all to stfu. I was just
>embellishing... lol”

  

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438. "well deserved. and he deserved those 2 emmys too."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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442. "Cardi B won 2019 Rap Album Of The Year at The Grammys"
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like what you like, just know awards dont necessarily speak to the quality of a thing

also, this is all subjective

  

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445. "that's deep, bro"
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450. "lol"
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Dude responded like you said
"Chappelle wins 2 emmy's... which means this special is high quality."

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463. "in case you dont know about the Command+F function on a Mac"
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hold down Command and hit F, you can find Mynoriti going hard in defense of Dave in this special all throughout this post

he was definitely using the Emmy win to speak to its value

  

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452. "lmao"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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455. "you introduced awards as a metric implying quality of a thing"
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456. "lol @ y'all's mans"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/CKO3UBblfcY/?utm_source=ig_embed



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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457. "you're an idiot if you catch covid because of joe rogan"
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https://www.tmz.com/2021/01/21/dave-chappelle-positive-test-covid-19-cancel-show/

dave is rich, he'll be fuckin fine, but there must've been people working that show and working backstage who didn't a hundred million dollars from netflix

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458. "The level of confidence in "Dave's retreats" "
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I think he really leaned into rapid testing as a sure-fire way to mitigate risk.

But those aren't 100% reliable - and the disease is VERY contagious.

Plus it appears that he's been slippin' too.

I just hope the folks at 30 Rock don't suffer the same fate.

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459. "heavy smoker tho....not gonna lie, I laughed..."
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I guess he'll get the good drugs?

  

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460. "Out of curiosity"
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>I guess he'll get the good drugs?

by 'good drugs', do you mean the same Regeneron cocktail that Trump got when he had COVID-19? Pardon my ignorance, but what other 'good drugs' are there for COVID-19?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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461. "guess I could have said 'top/front of the line service'"
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462. "I love Dave but you could see this coming a mile away."
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I just had a friend catch it, and similar to Dave it was one of those, "How in the world have you dodged it THIS long?"

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464. "I swear some people are trying to catch it"
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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465. "people just out there, every day"
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it's astounding

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466. "It's egomaniacs, narcissits AND the working poor"
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Look I went to Wal-mart yesterday for the first time in 10 months.

You know who's been there all 10 months? The people who work there for little money.

These fucking rich comedians doing useless shows with RON WHITE and JOE ROGAN and EOLON MUSK are not doing for any other reason that they are bored and feel a 'need' to do it.

Hope the working poor supporting the shows are okay. I'll do that down to Michelle Wolf and Donnell Rawlings -who are working poor compared to a lot of the other folks in the photos.

If you don't HAVE to work then you shouldn't be working right now.

But these FOOLS think they can manage it with "acceptable risks."

Lets hope no one dies for it.

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467. "that's the thing though folks at dave's level are corporations with a lo..."
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of people under him that depend on his work for their income. I feel like a lot of the stuff these big folks these days now is more so that the people under them can eat a lot of whom they probably been paying out of their pocket for free since covid hit.

Everything comes down to money, look at pro sports

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468. "except Dave doesn't live in texas"
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this ain't about the people in his corporation

he didn't have to go there with joe rogan stop making excuses

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469. "Doing stand-up sets at a barbecue place isn’t that"
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This disease spreads faster then people are comfortable admitting to themselves

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470. "We have pro football, basketball and hockey teams traveling back and..."
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forth across the country for money. Some of them are trying to sneak more and more fans into the building to watch and those people are paying a premium to do that

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471. "Yes and those are ego maniacal narcissistic and greedy people too"
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>forth across the country for money. Some of them are trying
>to sneak more and more fans into the building to watch and
>those people are paying a premium to do that

Lest we forget that one the Dodgers won they had their Covid infected players out in the field hugging each other.

None of it’s actually safe, none of it is actually needed, I understand that people are weak and foolish and can’t live without sports. Let’s hope they don’t infect their families too much.

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472. "like I said it comes down to money like everything else, I'm watching..."
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college basketball on tv right now

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473. "Money's the root or something......"
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???

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474. "Agreed"
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475. "Yes, Dave Chappelle is as silly as Tilman Fertitta"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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476. "see he's fuckin fine and he's even richer"
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https://www.instagram.com/tv/CLLdODIHcmW/


how many other people caught it from him who aren't rich

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477. "Yes Dave. We are a buncha pussies"
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For following the CDC


You’re a real man

  

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478. "ayyy new dave"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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479. "Yeah...... he don't be reading the room much...."
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handle
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480. "Dude is GONE"
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Fri Feb-12-21 11:36 AM by handle

          

He thinks being rich beats infectious disease.

And to be fair to him - he's super rich, he has been ACTIVELY plotted against and people HAVE and ARE actively trying to do him harm. Under that pressure it's understandable how he's like this - but still fuck him.

And I'll bet 60% of OKP are with him.

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Lurkmode
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481. "Dave is right"
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Damn cowards

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MEAT
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482. "Can't he just go off and get an editor and write a book"
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I'm a long time fan of this man's brain ... but his body of work has been seesawing the other direction for a while now.

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Hitokiri
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483. "What was the point of this?"
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Dave is gone.
It sucks

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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MEAT
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484. "Bitter and being enabled"
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seasoned vet
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485. "Dave asked everyone to boycott his show..."
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then told them to mind their business.

how does that work exactly?

if they were minding their business, they wouldnt of boycotted the show, and he wouldnt of gotten paid.

anyway, always seek representation kids...UNBIASED representation.

  

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Ryan M
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487. "Dave asking them to boycott is literally minding his own business."
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Rjcc
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488. "the act of them boycotting netflix"
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is not them minding their own business

dave wants participation when he wants it, which is fine

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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Ryan M
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489. "Him asking them to is."
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That's my point.

It's literally his business that he's minding.

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Rjcc
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491. "nothing you're saying is adding to the conversation"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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seasoned vet
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492. "at all. but being deliberately obtuse is their schtick."
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Mafamaticks
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486. "Hit dogs'll holla"
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490. "haters gonna hate, lovers gonna love"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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handle
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493. "Tautologies going tauto-t"
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I know dude's hurt but this is brain damage level shot.

"I'm doing stand up comedy in front of thousands of people who can catch an infectious disease so I'm a HERO and if you disagree you are a coward."

FOH.

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494. "people that are mad don't know many old black men"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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