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81 DUN
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"Are you happy with the state of Black Hollywood?"


  

          

I’m happy that Master P is talking about taking control, creating and owing our projects. But, he’s creating I Got The Hook Up 2.

I like that we have films that are not typical (Us, Last Black Man In SF)

But we still end up with the Slavery/Civil rights/bio pic that were boxed into.
Harriet Tubman, The Best of Enemies.

Out of the 52 Friday’s we have a year there should be at least 20 major black films to get excited about.

  

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Yeah I hear you on that. With all that goes on in Hollywood though
Aug 06th 2019
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Major releases are meh...
Aug 06th 2019
2
In this line...
Aug 07th 2019
3
I remember when every black film was a major event.
Aug 07th 2019
4
Right now it’s 1 or 2 a year
Aug 07th 2019
5
nothing comes to mind...
Aug 07th 2019
6
Why is there a "But" before the statement about I Got The Hook UP 2?
Aug 07th 2019
7
Cuz I looked at the trailer and it was terrible
Aug 08th 2019
8
      Fair enough, I ain't mad at you G. You proved me wrong.
Aug 08th 2019
14
it feels real low budget
Aug 08th 2019
9
Taking control and owning your projects don't mean shit....
Aug 08th 2019
10
I Agree I'm Still Waiting For Them To "Get Out" Of This Period
Aug 08th 2019
11
Hey, ...hey.....put dat gun down Sun!
Aug 08th 2019
15
The definition of "Hollywood" has expanded to include Netflix/Hulu etc
Aug 08th 2019
12
No I’m talking about movies in theaters.
Aug 08th 2019
13
      culturally, movies and "tv" are on equal footing
Aug 08th 2019
16
      youre living in the past then
Aug 11th 2019
20
           exactly
Aug 12th 2019
22
Black media in general is in a pretty bad way
Aug 08th 2019
17
if US counts, I think Gemini Man and
Aug 10th 2019
18
I stopped going to the movies
Aug 11th 2019
19
are there any tv shows about being black in politics?
Aug 11th 2019
21

Atillah Moor
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1. "Yeah I hear you on that. With all that goes on in Hollywood though "
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maybe it's more harm than good idk

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legsdiamond
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2. "Major releases are meh... "
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but these TV shows are awesome.

Snowfall
Queen Sugar
Green Leaf
Atlanta
Insecure
Blackish

All flames.

Also finding a few movies on Netflix that have been good. Not great but good enough.

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3. "In this line..."
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--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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4. "I remember when every black film was a major event. "
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Wed Aug-07-19 10:56 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

Like Everyone showed up the first weekend of DO The Right Thing and COming to America.

SO I can't complain about only 20 decent movies a year.

At any rate, I think 5-7 must see a year would be a more realistic number.


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5. "Right now it’s 1 or 2 a year"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Trinity444
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6. "nothing comes to mind..."
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it might be because of my age tho

  

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NoDrawls McGraw
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7. "Why is there a "But" before the statement about I Got The Hook UP 2?"
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You have an air of disdain and disgust with the notion of P creating this sequel.

Why is that?
(I have an idea but I'm hoping you prove me wrong)





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81 DUN
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8. "Cuz I looked at the trailer and it was terrible "
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Thu Aug-08-19 02:32 AM by 81 DUN

  

          

I still might buy it on Amazon just to support his movement but nah I couldn’t get down with that one. I like the first one

  

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14. "Fair enough, I ain't mad at you G. You proved me wrong."
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Thu Aug-08-19 03:25 PM by NoDrawls McGraw

  

          

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9. "it feels real low budget "
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and the celebrity worshipping within the black community is at an all time high.

America has imported more warlord theocracy from Afghanistan than it has exported democracy.

  

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10. "Taking control and owning your projects don't mean shit...."
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Thu Aug-08-19 10:58 AM by Airbreed

  

          

...unless you have the talent and professional skill set to WRITE and SHOOT a quality film. Otherwise, you'll end up owning a movie no one wants to see or cares about. Period.

Plus, I think most Hollywood black filmmakers are still treating black audiences as a monolithic group with the slavery/SJW/cross dressing comedy narratives.

I still haven't seen black hollywood go beyond that with storytelling in sci-fi, fantasy and adventure. Peele is doing good on the horror/psychological narratives. But he's still struggling with too many plot holes in his films. Once he's able to reconcile with that, Peele will be a force to be reckoned with.

Fuqua and DuVernay are probably the best at what they've been doing in Black Hollywood right now.

But as long as hollywood keeps giving money to people like tyler perry to shoot vapid, low brow, chitlin circuit movies, they'll continue to be seen as the standard, which is shameful in 2019.

  

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11. "I Agree I'm Still Waiting For Them To "Get Out" Of This Period"
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>Plus, I think most Hollywood black filmmakers are
>still treating black audiences as a monolithic group
>with the slavery/SJW/cross dressing comedy narratives.
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>I still haven't seen black hollywood go beyond that
>with storytelling in sci-fi, fantasy and adventure.
>Peele is doing good on the horror/psychological
>narratives. But he's still struggling with too many
>plot holes in his films. Once he's able to reconcile
>with that, Peele will be a force to be reckoned with.

Black Hollywood don't need to always have to make a so-called "black film" to be considered made by black hollywood, Black Panther & Get Out was a good example of what black hollywood can do if they stop trying so hard to make Madea & Wayans Brothers movies, yeah I love comedy movies but so times these movies try waaayyy to hard.

I also sometimes we feel that black people have to been in front of the camera for it to be a Black Hollywood type movie, our minds have been conditioned to what someone said how something should be so much that now we don't think outside the box anymore.


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15. "Hey, ...hey.....put dat gun down Sun!"
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LOL!

>>But as long as hollywood keeps giving money to people like tyler perry to shoot vapid, low brow, chitlin circuit movies, they'll continue to be seen as the standard, which is shameful in 2019.<<


Ninja came thew sprayin!
I ain't mad tho but damn....

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Damali
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12. "The definition of "Hollywood" has expanded to include Netflix/Hulu etc"
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in that respect, the field is rich and vast

the state of Black Hollywood is STRONG

Pose
The Chi
Atlanta
Black Lady Sketch Show
Dear White People
Grown-ish
Black-ish
Mixed-ish
Insecure
She's Gotta Have it
Queen Sugar
When They See Us
"Everything in Shondaland"


recent features also included:
Black Klansmen
If Beale Street Could Talk

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81 DUN
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13. "No I’m talking about movies in theaters. "
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I recognize that television industry is doing a good job. I believe it’s a big difference. Movies still represent American culture in a major way

  

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16. "culturally, movies and "tv" are on equal footing"
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and i put TV in quotations because Netflix and Hulu, et al are not a part of the television industry.

you do not need a television to stream content. the "television" is almost obsolete...in 5-10 more years, they won't exist. Most of us watch shows on a monitor..

does your apparatus at home have an antenna that receives a television signal or does it come from a cable box? just saying...

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20. "youre living in the past then"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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Damali
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22. "exactly"
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17. "Black media in general is in a pretty bad way"
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including Hollywood

  

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sosumi
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18. "if US counts, I think Gemini Man and"
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maybe even Hobbs and Shaw and The Kitchen should count...

Little and Shaft were fine but under supported

and it always annoyed me that Lion King is all animals

  

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19. "I stopped going to the movies"
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I don't support these industries that spread all kinds of subversive propaganda against Black people.

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21. "are there any tv shows about being black in politics?"
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I would like to watch that

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