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_explain555
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"don jr done went and retweeted ados bout kamala not bein ados"


          


and now errbody defendin kamalas American Blackness

on some innanets vs ados shit

dude might even get kicked off da innanet

https://twitter.com/ali/status/1145077008688451585


https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144444244364410880

  

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ados bout to go mainstream and fuckin don jr da one to put it on
Jun 30th 2019
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ankh right (c)
Jun 30th 2019
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ok but kamala gotta whole ass tshirt she sellin tho? ionno bruh
Jun 30th 2019
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      RE: how this ain't that = it's a fundraiser
Jun 30th 2019
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      dis the tweet dat popped shit off right here
Jun 30th 2019
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           I'm not following the logic
Jul 01st 2019
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      What ados history? It's her history
Jun 30th 2019
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      na but she black but not Black, like ADOS Black. ADOS history way diff
Jun 30th 2019
10
           What is she claiming?
Jun 30th 2019
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           This Kamala shit shows why the ADOS distinction is politically silly
Jul 01st 2019
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      im not even sure what youre asking here.
Jun 30th 2019
13
      Your complaint is that she is exploiting her bio for political gain?
Jun 30th 2019
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Ali Alexander: "I can couple it with Jesus and Sun Tzu"
Jun 30th 2019
4
This whole thing got me confused? How is she not African American?
Jun 30th 2019
5
Seems like terms aren't consistent from the OP to the arguemt
Jun 30th 2019
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black people are in a constant state of hunger games.
Jun 30th 2019
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whats wrong wit ados stickin up for itself tho?
Jun 30th 2019
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Division and distinction aren't the same.
Jun 30th 2019
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Her pops is Jamaican, moms ain't Black at all. That isn't ADOS
Jun 30th 2019
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      She is American and she is a Descendant of Slavery but not ADOS
Jul 01st 2019
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           Correction: Descendant of Slave OWNERS
Jul 01st 2019
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                You don't think she is the descendant of slaves?
Jul 01st 2019
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                     You don't think she's a descendant of slave owners?
Jul 01st 2019
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                          You realize a lot of black people are both?
Jul 01st 2019
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                               Of course I do.
Jul 01st 2019
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                                    1. Then what exactly is the point of your "correction"?
Jul 01st 2019
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                                         1.She expressly refused to do anything specifically for black people
Jul 01st 2019
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                                              RE: 1. That's not true.
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                   man aint no need to google when you can ctrl-f ya link for reparations
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                   1. Then what exactly is she saying here....
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                        Did you read my reply?
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                             I hit "reply" before your edit apparently
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                                  RE: This is about the policies.
Jul 01st 2019
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                                                                       yall talkin all that anti-reparations shit is da REAL right wing talkin ...
Jul 01st 2019
92
                                                                            Who here is anti-reparations?
Jul 01st 2019
97
He looks like Sammy Davis Jr., wtf is he from???
Jun 30th 2019
17
As Pan African as I am I find it funny
Jun 30th 2019
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This is flawed on so many levels
Jul 01st 2019
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      Context is vital
Jul 05th 2019
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sometimes I worry that we have the president we deserve
Jul 01st 2019
26
I think we do. And I’m also tired of hearing about any race issue
Jul 01st 2019
29
Hmmm
Jul 01st 2019
33
Peace to you. Take care of your mental health.
Jul 01st 2019
50
      Yes!!! Thanks.
Jul 01st 2019
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           💯
Jul 02nd 2019
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I think this often.
Jul 01st 2019
52
ive been slowly veering into this lane.
Jul 01st 2019
75
She isn’t ADOS... but she is black. shrugs
Jul 01st 2019
30
I really hate that niggas is falling for the okey doke.
Jul 01st 2019
31
Reply 15
Jul 01st 2019
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Still can't ride with it.
Jul 01st 2019
43
      Oh ok. You just don't fool with the idea.
Jul 01st 2019
48
sheeeeiiiit. There's a clear economic outcome difference in the
Jul 01st 2019
67
      ^^^ This too
Jul 01st 2019
74
when da warren native american shit came out them mfuckas clapped
Jul 01st 2019
32
You didn't answer my question above. What is she claiming?
Jul 01st 2019
35
https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144444244364410880
Jul 01st 2019
This link doesn't answer his question. She's not hiding
Jul 01st 2019
40
      ados dont like how she milk da ados experience for political points
Jul 01st 2019
49
           who is riding for an ados specific agenda?
Jul 01st 2019
55
                Buttigieg got da Douglass Plan and him and Williamson da only ones
Jul 01st 2019
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                     IS reparations the only issue (cause he ain't Ados either)
Jul 01st 2019
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                          Douglass Plan covers more than reparations i think its supposed to
Jul 01st 2019
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                               The obiousness of the republican push in that op-ed is
Jul 01st 2019
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                                    man im just a messenger
Jul 01st 2019
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https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144444244364410880
Jul 01st 2019
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      I'm not abt to watch 40 mins of some Sammy Davis Jr looking nobody
Jul 01st 2019
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           Lmao. Dudes chin is a trip.
Jul 01st 2019
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           its cuz she milk da shit out that ONE moment like she generations deep
Jul 01st 2019
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           nigga i been sayin what i think just read da mfuckin post lol
Jul 01st 2019
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                Yeah you have no idea what you think. Keep linking Twitter weirdos
Jul 01st 2019
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I think that's vastly different
Jul 01st 2019
39
      half her childhood was canadian tho LOL! handful of years getting
Jul 01st 2019
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           Six years, not half.
Jul 01st 2019
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                I don’t think it’s trash but trying to inject ADOS into every hot to...
Jul 01st 2019
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                     aint nobody inject shit LOL a niggas tweet went viral
Jul 01st 2019
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                     It went viral because he looks like Sammy Davis
Jul 01st 2019
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                     RE: I don’t think it’s trash but trying to inject ADOS into every ho...
Jul 01st 2019
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                          I will say this with confidence...the candidate that fully embraces ADOS
Jul 01st 2019
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                          I have serious doubts about America honoring reparations
Jul 01st 2019
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                               And this is my thing and I agree:
Jul 01st 2019
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                                    It was never crazy for any other group to get an apology check
Jul 01st 2019
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I’ve been on the fence with Kamala. Shirt is dope af tho
Jul 01st 2019
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ionno i aint really feelin sorry for her. how da only 2 black candidates
Jul 01st 2019
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      So the key question is Harris or Trump?
Jul 01st 2019
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      dis aint bout me im left all day but yall wanna ignore black politics
Jul 01st 2019
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      That’s a basic ass take bruh
Jul 01st 2019
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      sadly one that too many other black folks prolly have.
Jul 01st 2019
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      there's no win, whichever side she went.
Jul 01st 2019
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      nah, if she went b but then came correct wit B as fuck tangibles i bet
Jul 01st 2019
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      ? Corey Booker actually introduced reparations legislation
Jul 01st 2019
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           williamson too lol
Jul 01st 2019
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           I actually really liked her answer
Jul 01st 2019
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           as a senator. what booker's platform for prez talkin bout for ados tho?
Jul 01st 2019
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           Did you read your own link?
Jul 01st 2019
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                well Buttigieg put out dat Douglass Plan while ago
Jul 01st 2019
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                     I’m sorry but I’m not ready to give booty Jay
Jul 01st 2019
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                          lol hey man idgaf do what you feel i just be disseminatin info
Jul 01st 2019
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                          Obviously you do with that long ass post
Jul 01st 2019
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                               Maya Pete gone save us.
Jul 01st 2019
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                               LOL nah no shade bruh for real
Jul 01st 2019
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                          I thought this was a good objective summary of her record
Jul 01st 2019
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                          testimony vid from a black south bend resident
Jul 02nd 2019
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                               Nah more like "testimony vid from a black Mayor Pete surrogate"
Jul 02nd 2019
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i hope Kamala cancels Biden and MAGA cancels Kamala
Jul 01st 2019
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lol
Jul 01st 2019
95
Damn co-signing MAGA
Jul 01st 2019
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Yvette Carnell, founder of ADOS, wearing a MAGA hat
Jul 01st 2019
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      have you watched a single yvette cornell or tonetalks video?
Jul 01st 2019
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      Is this the grainy ass suspect video that looks photoshopped?
Jul 02nd 2019
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      Lmao. Yeah.. she sounds bad here
Jul 02nd 2019
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she's not.
Jul 01st 2019
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..it's also not a claim she made...
Jul 01st 2019
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      ehhh, she absolutely is using Black culture/history as a prop
Jul 01st 2019
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           she went to Howard and pledged AKA, if that ain't "black culture" then.....
Jul 01st 2019
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                White husband
Jul 01st 2019
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                is it?
Jul 01st 2019
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                Mos def
Jul 01st 2019
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                personally I think its irrelevant, but honestly I think it may help her....
Jul 01st 2019
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                gotta be.
Jul 01st 2019
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                     RE: gotta be.
Jul 01st 2019
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                     you called it.
Jul 01st 2019
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                     Definitely
Jul 01st 2019
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                going to a HBCU and pledging a Black sorority don't mean
Jul 01st 2019
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                     do you feel this way about louis farrakhan?
Jul 01st 2019
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                     Yup.
Jul 01st 2019
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                          lol good luck.
Jul 01st 2019
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                     so I guess that IS what this is really about...
Jul 01st 2019
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Is all this just an internet thing, or a real life thing?
Jul 01st 2019
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mostly an internet thing...
Jul 01st 2019
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It’s a discussion we have but it rarely involved that acronym
Jul 01st 2019
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oh it's a real life thing. Just not OKP circles
Jul 01st 2019
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LOL, I just clicked the 2nd link in the OP
Jul 01st 2019
115
Nobody linked this 'ADOS is trash' Kweli article from April yet?
Jul 01st 2019
121
Beetlejuice
Jul 01st 2019
122
Holy Shit. Didn't know it was that bad.
Jul 02nd 2019
144
Welcome to the fold.
Jul 02nd 2019
145
was gonna post it when it happened
Jul 02nd 2019
166
y'all really hate Black people
Jul 02nd 2019
167
Everyone involved in any side of this is an idiot
Jul 01st 2019
124
Shut your white ass up
Jul 01st 2019
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      Idiot
Jul 02nd 2019
141
           Shut your white ass up
Jul 02nd 2019
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                ^^Here's an example of a post that should get a user banned
Jul 02nd 2019
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Would she get reparations? Who gets them if they happen? Only ADOS?
Jul 01st 2019
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I'm pretty sure no one getting checks any time soon
Jul 01st 2019
131
from the US? Why would she?
Jul 01st 2019
132
      Read the Color of Law
Jul 02nd 2019
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           I've read it. And the Color of Money
Jul 02nd 2019
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She's an immigrant so her anti-black stances make sense...
Jul 01st 2019
133
RE: People are waking up and are now refusing to vote for her
Jul 01st 2019
134
Yup.
Jul 01st 2019
136
Big Facts.
Jul 01st 2019
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RE: Big Facts.
Jul 01st 2019
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      It's LITERALLY a birther argument that we all recognized as racist again...
Jul 02nd 2019
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           It’s not. It’s just a few uninformed people calling her an immigrant
Jul 02nd 2019
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           Nah, it's more than that
Jul 02nd 2019
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                Black how? She's 3/4 East Asian.
Jul 04th 2019
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           My arguments are based on HER policy and statements.
Jul 02nd 2019
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2 things:
Jul 02nd 2019
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      She's a second generation immigrant and it shows...
Jul 02nd 2019
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           RE: She's a second generation immigrant and it shows...
Jul 03rd 2019
168
Judging this post, Don Jr. is a damn genius
Jul 01st 2019
139
smh
Jul 01st 2019
140
speaking Pan-Africanly, this is true.
Jul 02nd 2019
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Even that Kamala Reparations Video doesn't prove what yall think it does
Jul 02nd 2019
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well shit if mfuckas finna go hard for dreamers or lgbtq then why not?
Jul 02nd 2019
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It’s not anti Black but you better have a good reason why
Jul 02nd 2019
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I'm out on the ADOS movement b/w 2 big issues
Jul 02nd 2019
157
You're wrong
Jul 02nd 2019
164
      **gets jiggy with this reply**
Jul 02nd 2019
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      3 - it's a blank check for ALL transgressions
Jul 03rd 2019
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           No.
Jul 03rd 2019
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                Either these folks aren’t ADOS
Jul 03rd 2019
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                     I think topics are being conflated, or you're misunderstanding
Jul 03rd 2019
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                          Yeah you dont know what you're talking about
Jul 03rd 2019
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                               William Darity: No. It’s not tied specifically to slavery.
Jul 03rd 2019
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                                    Right, but his research goes up to redlining and housing
Jul 03rd 2019
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I was somewhat sympathetic to ADOS
Jul 03rd 2019
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_explain555
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1. "ados bout to go mainstream and fuckin don jr da one to put it on"
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fuckin tragic

  

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2. "ankh right (c)"
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3. "ok but kamala gotta whole ass tshirt she sellin tho? ionno bruh"
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Sun Jun-30-19 03:34 PM by _explain555

          

https://nypost.com/2019/06/29/kamala-harris-raises-2m-in-24-hours-with-help-of-that-little-girl-was-me-shirts/


ados aint fuckin wit kamala cuz they say she usin ados history for political points

how this aint that?


  

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6. "RE: how this ain't that = it's a fundraiser "
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Every campaign has a tee

I've got a few

ZOMG@Warren's I've got a plan for that tee (c) no one

+1, I believe there is a deadline to meet tonight, why wouldn't she capitalize on her momentum

How does...I was that little girl...detract from ados...?

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9. "dis the tweet dat popped shit off right here"
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https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144426463510355970


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>How does...I was that little girl...detract from ados...?


man.. its so much shit inna twitterverse on it just search

any ados tweet or fb post on kamala

basically its bout griftin

like she black

but not B-lack

and ados dont like how she front like she B-lack then on TOP of dat shit dont ride hard for reparations or any specific shit for ados


but im just sayin da tshirt kinda prove they point tho lol

  

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22. "I'm not following the logic"
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Mon Jul-01-19 08:53 AM by bentagain

  

          

What I've gathered so far...

ADOS is stating she does not have a claim to being an American descendent of slavery

...because her pops is Jamaican and her moms is indian...

and your sources are FB and Twitter...facepalm

You're aware there were slaves in Jamaica?

A black woman born in America...to 2 immigrants...is Black.

Would you support a group insulting your entire family and heritage?

She's not against reparations

https://www.npr.org/2019/03/14/703299534/sen-kamala-harris-on-reparations

But as has always been the issue...there doesn't seem to be a consensus on what reparations is.

How is this a grift?

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7. "What ados history? It's her history"
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Was she lying about bussing (honest question, I haven't followed up)?

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10. "na but she black but not Black, like ADOS Black. ADOS history way diff"
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then her shit

  

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11. "What is she claiming?"
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24. "This Kamala shit shows why the ADOS distinction is politically silly"
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It has alot of value from a cultural heritage perspective but, politically, black is Black is black.

Cultural heritage has no cachet when you're being sorted by your skin color for political and economic reasons. Being African or West Indian isn't protecting folks from being redlined, abused by the police, price gouged or any other mistreatment African Americans endure.

The common mistreatment ought to be a unifying force for the diaspora but Don Jr is showing that ADOS can be used to drive a wedge between black people.

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13. "im not even sure what youre asking here."
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16. "Your complaint is that she is exploiting her bio for political gain?"
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Like literally ever single politician in the history of politics?


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4. "Ali Alexander: "I can couple it with Jesus and Sun Tzu""
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Of all of the MAGA grifters, this guy may be a serious contender for most hilariously stupid. Complicating that evaluation is his occasional partnerships with fellow dumbass heavy hitters, Wohl and Loomer.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/maga-personalities-launch-website-about-themselves

MAGA Personalities Launch Website About Themselves

Will Sommer
Updated 05.10.19 2:29PM ET / Published 02.26.19 7:32PM ET

Facing dwindling public enthusiasm for Trump and a lack of interest from outlets like Fox News, a collection of MAGA-world personalities have started a new publication devoted to themselves.

The new site is called Culttture, and it’s basically a repository of whatever drama is going on with the members of the pro-Trump “New Right” this week.

Has Laura Loomer shouted at someone lately? Culttture will have the video. Did some former Breitbart reporter get banned from Facebook? Culttture has a take. Did Mike Cernovich post a picture of his latest dinner? Culttture will, for some reason, have that as well.

They even have a terrible rap song, “For the Culttture,” which serves a rallying cry for a generation of young Trumpsters who have been kicked off social media.

“Had an Instagram, which also got banned,” goes one representative line.

No one from Culttture responded to my requests for comment. No one even explained why Culttture has three “T’s” in its name.

Fortunately, I did get my hands on a now-deleted video in which Culttture founder Ali Alexander tells a rambling story about how he came up with the site and compared himself positively to Vladimir Lenin and Josef Goebbels.

“Goebbels and Lenin, smart men, evil men,” Alexander said. “But they have nothing on me in terms of social engineering.”

Alexander, a ubiquitous, grandiose character who had a hand in the Florida ballot count saga and the backlash to the Covington Catholic reporting, was supposed to triumph along with “New Right” characters like Laura Loomer and Mike Cernovich at December’s American Priority Conference.

Instead, the conference flopped, with one speaker refusing to even take the stage when he saw how small the crowd was.

It was then, Alexander realized, that he had to do something to save the world of MAGA social media personalities.

Kamala Harris’ 2020 Rivals Back Her Against Birther Claims
“My friends were about to leave the business and I was going to be alone again,” Alexander said in the video.

Alexander had recently taken LSD, which he says “rewired” his brain. It was that, and what he describes as a signal from God, that gave him the inspiration to launch Culttture.

“I can couple it with Jesus and Sun Tzu, and Andrew Breitbart and Mike Cernovich,” Alexander said. “I have known the greatest strategists.”

One of Alexander’s innovations has been realizing that there are plenty of younger aspiring right-wing personalities who can be dragooned into working for him.

“If the media’s not gonna write about us, and Twitchy’s not going to write about us, who will write about us?” Alexander said. “Well, there’s a bunch of aspiring kids who want to be us, let’s make them write for us.”

But reposting videos and screenshotting Instagram posts doesn’t pay for itself. To that end, Culttture and Alexander have already launched one stunt campaign, traveling with fellow travelers Loomer and Jacob Wohl to Minnesota to “investigate” Rep. Ilhan Omar (D-MN.).

The various characters involved in the project ultimately failed to even find Omar or dig up any dirt on her.

In an effort to keep their donors interested, they then started hyping up the trip to Minneapolis as an incredibly dangerous adventure right out of Sicario. Wohl and Alexander started wearing bulletproof vests, and claimed they were traveling around in armored cars to avoid hit men.

Asked how viewers could support them in such a dangerous effort, Alexander had an answer: “Money, money, money. And prayer.”

Twitter bans Jacob Wohl: Twitter banned pro-Trump personality Jacob Wohl late on Tuesday afternoon, saying he had violated the site’s rules on creating fake accounts.

Just hours earlier, Wohl had bragged in a USA Today interview about doing exactly that in an attempt to influence the 2020 election.

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5. "This whole thing got me confused? How is she not African American?"
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She was born in America, right? Her father is a descendent of Africa, right?
This implies African American, right?
What is the link I'm missing?

The dumbest part of all this is it allmeans absolutely nothing. It's just Trump people trying to pick at threads.

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8. "Seems like terms aren't consistent from the OP to the arguemt"
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Sun Jun-30-19 03:59 PM by Boogie Stimuli

          

being had in the CNN clip from the twitter video.

However, the argument being had in the twitter video seems to be trying to say what the OP is saying.

Meaning, they're talking about ADOS, but they're saying "African American."

ADOS means American Descendant of Slaves and denotes lineage from American Chattel Slavery, which Harris definitely does not have.

The popularization of the term "African American" was never distinct enough, but was aiming for the same distinction. Technically it fails for obvious reasons.

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12. "black people are in a constant state of hunger games."
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the shit we constantly come up with to divide ourselves is asinine.

  

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14. "whats wrong wit ados stickin up for itself tho?"
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15. "Division and distinction aren't the same."
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Distinctions are necessary, as I'm sure you understand in terms of male & female, hetero & homo, trans & cis, etc. Different existences and struggles warrant different accommodations and solutions. Doesn't mean these distinctions have to be "divided" as long as they understand and accept these differences with maturity.

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18. "Her pops is Jamaican, moms ain't Black at all. That isn't ADOS"
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20. "She is American and she is a Descendant of Slavery but not ADOS "
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if folks are keeping track of all this.


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21. "Correction: Descendant of Slave OWNERS"
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23. "You don't think she is the descendant of slaves?"
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Man please don't tell me you are circulating right-wing talking points. Shit propagated by people with no knowledge of the history of slavery.


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25. "You don't think she's a descendant of slave owners?"
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27. "You realize a lot of black people are both?"
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I know I don't have to explain to you that a lot of slave owners raped their slaves, and produced offspring that were, in turn, treated as slaves.

That's one of the reasons the term bedwench is so offensive, considering that a black woman doesn't have a choice in having sex with her white master.

Come on man.


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28. "Of course I do."
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And to the rest of us, blackness isn't something we only access or identify with for political gain.

You're in the wrong post with that "bedwench" stuff tho.

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54. "1. Then what exactly is the point of your "correction"?"
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2. What's the basis of saying Kamala only accessing or identifies her blackness for political gain?




>And to the rest of us, blackness isn't something we only
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>You're in the wrong post with that "bedwench" stuff tho.
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66. "1.She expressly refused to do anything specifically for black people"
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if elected. Sounds like someone who identifies more with slave owning ancestors than enslaved ones to me.

2. See #1 See also her opposition to DNA evidence for Kevin Cooper, her mis-handling of the Mitrice Richardson case, that "truancy" garbage, and THEN her being all about this being a "country of immigrants" until it was time to co-opt MLK's legacy to announce her bid.

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68. "RE: 1. That's not true."
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https://kamalaharris.org/issue/fighting-for-racial-justice/

You can google Kamala and reparations...but...twitter doe...and da innanets...

https://thegrio.com/2019/02/25/sen-kamala-harris-gets-backlash-over-question-about-reparations-for-african-americans/

The interview clips at the end of the article are there...in her own words

If I had to make an assumption...as the article states, 7 out of 10 americans are against reparations...she's presenting the LIFT Act as not being black specific intentionally;

If ADOS is focused on restoring the damage from slavery...how can they be against something that will benefit 60% of black americans...?

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69. "man aint no need to google when you can ctrl-f ya link for reparations"
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and come up wit NADA


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70. "1. Then what exactly is she saying here...."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hsB6EWNUcyY#t=1m49s

That's not twitter. That's here saying it out of her own mouth.

I timestamped that clip for you, but since you're talking about reparations, go back to the beginning of it too.

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73. "Did you read my reply?"
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Contrary to the views expressed on this message board

Reparations is not supported by a majority of americans

I'm assuming...she's presenting the LIFT Act as not being black specific...for that reason

As a candidate for POTUS

60% of blacks would be LIFTed out of poverty...do we not support that?...because it's not black specific

Her Black agenda feels more focused on criminal justice reform

remember when that was at the top of the agenda?

Again, not black specific, but would overwhelmingly benefit black americans

Cool...she hasn't presented a 'only benefiting black americans' proposal

I just can't help but wonder how folks are lining up to co-sign Trumpsters and their blatant racism

Ya'll do realize you're standing on their side?

Ta-Nehisi Coates is not a viable candidate for POTUS

She does need yt pee poe to vote for her.

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83. "I hit "reply" before your edit apparently"
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All that was there when I responded was the link and the line about twitter and "da innanets."


>Contrary to the views expressed on this message board
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>Reparations is not supported by a majority of americans
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>I'm assuming...she's presenting the LIFT Act as not being
>black specific...for that reason



Cool assumption. Do you also assume that she'll get elected say "Gotcha, bitches!" then propose her real reparations plan? Her past leads me to believe not, but maybe you have a different view of her.

If you're talking about restoring the damage done by slavery, the tax credit proposed by the lift as falls astronomically short of achieving that. A small tax credit is not evening the playing field even for the supposed 60% that would get it, and what about the other 40% of Black people? Nah, that ain't it. You don't throw a small tax credit to a little over half of Black folks and call it reparations. That's like stirring a cup of water and calling it a tsunami. Hell might be even more ridiculous than that lol.



>I just can't help but wonder how folks are lining up to
>co-sign Trumpsters and their blatant racism
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>Ya'll do realize you're standing on their side?


Man, yall really gotta stop this. In this case, we could never offer criticism for any Black candidate, because well, ya know racists don't like them either, so you're on their side! Man stop. This is about the policies.


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84. "RE: This is about the policies."
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You think ADOS/Reparations is a winning policy stance for POTUS...?

This is America (c)

"In this case, we could never offer criticism for any Black candidate"

Let's talk about this candidate

ADOS attacks her Blackness

Kamala pwned Biden and the debate

Trumpsters regurgitate ADOS attacks

That's a pool I'm not dipping my toe in...EVAH

When those camps have overlap, it can not be good

It's really odd to me to watch how she is being treated...especially post Barry O

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92. "yall talkin all that anti-reparations shit is da REAL right wing talkin ..."
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soundin just like candace owens did in front of congress

if dems just took ados more seriously then there wouldnt be no clash for da right to exploit

whatchyou expect if they just finna tell ados stfu, you think da other side aint finna make a play? lol come on now shits politics


and LOL @ ados bein a trojan horse for 45 when 10% of bernie supporters
voted for him in da general in 2016

horseshoe shit aint new

yall just wanna ignore theres a black horseshoe


im sayin yall need to pay da fuck attention to black politics

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97. "Who here is anti-reparations?"
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Boy, stop.

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17. "He looks like Sammy Davis Jr., wtf is he from???"
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19. "As Pan African as I am I find it funny"
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People of the forced diaspora and directly from the African continent in the last 50 years many times come to the USA and try to look down on Africans of the diaspora born in the USA from chattel slavery.

Now that we are having this reparations talk everyone is like I'm riding with yall WHEN THE FACT IS THE USA IS THE USA BECAUSE OF THE AFRICANS THAT WERE HELD CAPTIVE WITHIN ITS 13 COLONIES AND NOW 50 STATES.

I also have no issue with Kamala getting dragged because her pop 0f Jamaican ancestry was a descendant from BLACK slave owners and proud to be descendant from Yt slavers.

He somewhat denounced her earlier this year in a publication saying she was black.

I got people from the Bahamas and if you do the history many times the rebellious Africans in the USA or British colonies were shipped to the Caribbean as punishment where conditions were harsher and people were being imported with higher consistency.

With all that said I have no tears for Harris.

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37. "This is flawed on so many levels"
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I'm sure there are some black folks from other places who have said or thought disparaging things about black Americans, just like they are black Americans who say and have thought terrible things about black folks from other places. I'm not sure this justifies an entire movement to separate.

Also, given that Garvey, Malcolm, and so many other folks pivotal to the Black American story are from, or the children of black folks from other places, I think it's an odd and difficult distinction to make. As btw is the notion that people are hopping on the blackness bandwagon for reparations.

  

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178. "Context is vital"
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Malcolm's people were in the UNIA

Garvey came to the US because he was inspired by and wanted to meet who BOOKER T WASHINGTON.

They didn't come here looking to be yes men and women in the US caste system of White racism and mythical supremacy.

Kamala's record as a politician has been profoundly anti Black.

But she went to Howard and is the daughter of a coon Jamaican so she is down for the npeople now?

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26. "sometimes I worry that we have the president we deserve"
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seriously, if this is your biggest beef and or your single issue, then yea, maybe we deserve the leadership we have.

  

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29. "I think we do. And I’m also tired of hearing about any race issue "
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I’m tired of excuses. Tired of feeling like we are all victims of everything.

American news today just drains me.

I think I’m going to stay in a bubble for the next 30 days too. Any news about elections candidates presidency racial inequality and fear confusion discord etc I don’t want no parts of


I’m just gonna watch you tube videos of infinite waters


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33. "Hmmm "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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50. "Peace to you. Take care of your mental health."
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53. "Yes!!! Thanks. "
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143. "💯"
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52. "I think this often."
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75. "ive been slowly veering into this lane."
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30. "She isn’t ADOS... but she is black. shrugs"
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31. "I really hate that niggas is falling for the okey doke. "
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As far as life as a black person in the USA goes, there is no functional difference between ADOS and some "other type" of black, ESPECIALLY if you grew up here.

This is just the 2.0 version of the shit they popped when Obama first ran and they tried to make his white mother an issue, ignoring the fact that he spent his formative years in South Side Chicago.

Kamala was born and raised in America and was subjected to school bussing. How her father being Jamaican plays into this is confusing to me.

In 2019, we now have it on record that the head of the largest federal law enforcement agency actively believed the biggest threat to the nation was Black unity, and worked tirelessly to prevent it and here we are playing into the bullshit.
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38. "Reply 15"
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ADOS distinction is important for the purpose of reparations. If America owes reparations for slavery, then those descended from the enslaved are who they're owed to. Simple.

How this is viewed as problematic for American black people but not for Caribbean black people is really odd.

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43. "Still can't ride with it. "
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For this simple purpose: There will be no perfect reparations.

Let's say reparations gets passed tomorrow. Do we have any viable means of determining who should and should not get reparations? Slavery records are available, but incomplete. Are we gonna parse out reparations to black people who were enslaved, then deny black slave owners and their progeny and descendants, who are probably numerous? What about free blacks who were fortunate to land or be in the north and never were enslaved period? There's too many permutations to account for. What if someone is from the Caribbean but the descendant of a master who had land here and abroad, and therefore slaves in different area codes? Aren't they the victims of American slavery too?

ADOS is counting its chickens before the eggs have even hatched. To me it's just being divisive. And as a lot of ADOS seems to be coming from the extreme right, I just can't ride with it.
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48. "Oh ok. You just don't fool with the idea."
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As far as your explanation for why...
I think you're just better off saying you don't like the idea and leaving it at that, as if seems there's nothing that would cause you to be for it. ADOS coming from right wing tho? Man I can't even.
Lol.

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67. "sheeeeiiiit. There's a clear economic outcome difference in the "
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community of ADOS people and immigrant Black people.
We are not the same people, politically or economically.

  

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74. "^^^ This too"
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32. "when da warren native american shit came out them mfuckas clapped"
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tf BACK on some dont you ever claim our tribe if you aint a member shit

she apologized immediately

why is ADOS defendin its heritage is a problem


imagine if warren aint apologize bout da native american shit but instead doubled down like FUCK YALL and then started sellin tshirts bout da shit for her campaign for prez

dats literally what kamala doin tho lol

  

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35. "You didn't answer my question above. What is she claiming?"
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What did she say or do?

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"https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144444244364410880"


          



i linked da shit up top man come on lol

if you aint even willin to click da shit i aint bout to type out what a mfucka already laid out

  

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40. "This link doesn't answer his question. She's not hiding "
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who her parents were. She's claiming her experience as a black woman growing up in America. She never said her parents were black Americans or the descendants of American slaves.

  

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49. "ados dont like how she milk da ados experience for political points"
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all while not ridin hard for a ados specific agenda like she say point black in dis interview clip:

https://twitter.com/CjsGoMarket/status/1144706285595746306


it aint bout no lyin bout who her parents is


look yall attackin me like i invented da beef im just hippin yall to da fact a lotta niggas aint fuckin wit kamala and this one of da reasons why and i aint really seein they lies lol

  

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55. "who is riding for an ados specific agenda?"
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56. "Buttigieg got da Douglass Plan and him and Williamson da only ones"
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promotin reparations for black americans on they campaign websites


that i know of

  

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57. "IS reparations the only issue (cause he ain't Ados either)"
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if she is more enthusiastically pro-reparations does that change that calculous?

  

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58. "Douglass Plan covers more than reparations i think its supposed to"
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be like a marshall plan but to help rebuild black america economically


is reparations only issue? ionno i think its prolly da top issue tho

mfuckas care more about tangibles then heritage but kamala fuckin up on both them shits so dats why ados not feelin her

https://www.inquirer.com/news/kamala-harris-ados-african-americans-black-immigrants-president-20190211.html

its da main thing to get ados support dats why a lot of ados fuckin wit

williamson even tho she kinda coockoo cuz dats her main shit. plus she namedrops ados and fucks wit tone and carnell and darity n shit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XZ0_pbLhLmY


buttigieg i aint seen as much excitement for but he do got a black agenda

which look better than kamala talkin bout

https://twitter.com/CjsGoMarket/status/1144706285595746306

lol

  

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59. "The obiousness of the republican push in that op-ed is "
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startling. It's just straight up GOP talking points. Good luck.

  

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61. "man im just a messenger"
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lotta mfuckas dont be followin dis shit

i linked it cuz they quote yvette n tone n darity directly from talkin to em

i dont know them niggas lol

  

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36. "https://twitter.com/ali/status/1144444244364410880"
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i linked da shit up top man come on lol

if you aint even willin to click da shit i aint bout to type out what a mfucka already laid out

  

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41. "I'm not abt to watch 40 mins of some Sammy Davis Jr looking nobody"
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Probably took you longer to copy and paste that link than it would to type one sentence about what YOU think. Not what Sammy Davis Jr's great grandson thinks.

Unless you don't know what you think

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44. "Lmao. Dudes chin is a trip. "
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I’m not understanding the issue. If she experienced bussing wtf does that have to do with ADOS?

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51. "its cuz she milk da shit out that ONE moment like she generations deep"
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in da shit, sellin tshirts bout it n whatnot


all while sayin: https://twitter.com/CjsGoMarket/status/1144706285595746306


lotta niggas aint fuckin wit dat


im just a messenger yo lol

  

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45. "nigga i been sayin what i think just read da mfuckin post lol"
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tryna argue wit ya lazy ass

  

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47. "Yeah you have no idea what you think. Keep linking Twitter weirdos"
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39. "I think that's vastly different"
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>
>tf BACK on some dont you ever claim our tribe if you aint a
>member shit
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>she apologized immediately
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>why is ADOS defendin its heritage is a problem
>
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>imagine if warren aint apologize bout da native american shit
>but instead doubled down like FUCK YALL and then started
>sellin tshirts bout da shit for her campaign for prez
>
>dats literally what kamala doin tho lol

Warren is neither visibly Native nor did she grow up Native or even Native-adjacent.

Kamala is a woman with African ancestry, visibly black, lives or lived most of her life as black, grew up in the black american experience, came up in american school systems with the burden of being black. I don't see how her pops being Jamaican changes any of that. She grew up as an American black person. That's like 90% of her life experience. Even her marrying a white man doesn't change any of the above. I'm not a fan or necessarily caping for her, but I really don't get this ADOS movement.


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42. "half her childhood was canadian tho LOL! handful of years getting"
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bussed to a yt school in da bay = da ADOS experience now?

i mean dis nigga gotta point lol

https://twitter.com/JLPtalk/status/1145094972464435200

@KamalaHarris is Indian & Jamaican. She was mostly raised in Canada & her husband is Jewish. She’s not a black American & has no connection or lineage to slavery or civil-rights in US. Being bussed to white Berkeley school in the 70s doesn’t make you Rosa Parks

  

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46. "Six years, not half. "
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It doesn't make her Rosa Parks, but it doesn't make her Doris Day either. She was in Canada from age 12 to 18. How is that half her childhood. After that she went to Howard. Them six years make her white?

Having a non-traditional upbringing automatically disqualifies her from being seen as black? or a white spouse? That disqualifies a RACK of black people from being black.

She's an American born black and this ADOS movement/argument to me is still mostly trash. All it serves is to divide and categorize and to have us arguing shit like how black is black enough.

Can't ride with it.
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63. "I don’t think it’s trash but trying to inject ADOS into every hot to..."
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is a bad idea.

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65. "aint nobody inject shit LOL a niggas tweet went viral "
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ados been sayin dis shit bout kamala way before don jr

its bout whether payin attention to whats happenin in black 2020 politics






  

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72. "It went viral because he looks like Sammy Davis"
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Most of the tweets are clowning him.

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80. "RE: I don’t think it’s trash but trying to inject ADOS into every ho..."
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Okay, trash is harsh. I'm trying to educate myself a little more on the movement, but it still seems divisive.

I think they way they are seeking reparations in the current climate though is a bit unrealistic/difficult, but again, I'm still reading up on what the leaders of the movement are saying.
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82. "I will say this with confidence...the candidate that fully embraces ADOS"
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is THE candidate for reparations

Will not win the nomination.

There has to be a smarter tactic toward progress...than purity tests and hashtag activists tearing down a black woman running for POTUS.

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86. "I have serious doubts about America honoring reparations "
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and I definitely feel like anyone demanding a candidate push for them are definitely trying to make sure that candidate doesn’t win.

How many people go into a job interview and demand the employer pay for past sins?

How about winning FIRST and then putting shit in motion?

Same folk screaming yt supremacy expect this country to elect a president who promises reparations? Don’t demand someone put their ass on the line when you aren’t doing it in your own profession.

For those that are doing just that. My hat is off to you.

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91. "And this is my thing and I agree:"
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>How about winning FIRST and then putting shit in motion?
>

Until we have more black power in general on the local/state/congressional levels, pushing an ADOS black purity agenda seems like wasted effort.

And even then.....we gonna carry around our slavery credentials to access reparations benefits if/when we get them? That shit sounds backwards as hell.


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120. "It was never crazy for any other group to get an apology check "
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No other group demands their nominee do something for a specific group they represent.

I think it’s just implied they will look out once they get in.

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34. "I’ve been on the fence with Kamala. Shirt is dope af tho"
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60. "ionno i aint really feelin sorry for her. how da only 2 black candidates"
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got no black agenda tho? like nothin on they websites lol

like if i was kamala i woulda been out in front of dis shit. you black but not B-lack come correct cuz for a lotta niggas da obama glow done worn da fuck off

like seriously buttigieg and williamson da only ones wit tangibles?

theyd really be da last ones i'd expect

but dats what it is


and i think da tshirts wack its what made me see why ados aint fuckin wit her

  

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62. "So the key question is Harris or Trump?"
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Are you refusing to support someone without an ADOS specific agenda even if it means another 4 years of trump?

  

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64. "dis aint bout me im left all day but yall wanna ignore black politics"
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its to ya detriment

aint no harm in understandin a black movement n how they feelin

niggas is organized

da black vote aint a monolith for real

  

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71. "That’s a basic ass take bruh"
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76. "sadly one that too many other black folks prolly have."
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77. "there's no win, whichever side she went."
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if she said she's b and not B, then she get called divisive.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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88. "nah, if she went b but then came correct wit B as fuck tangibles i bet"
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she woulda never had dis problem

dats literally all ados want

she fucked up goin nah i aint finna do anything for JUST black america right out da gate

  

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78. "? Corey Booker actually introduced reparations legislation"
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https://www.booker.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=937

You also realize Pete is an executive as mayor...?

What has he done for black americans in south bend?

Odd to smear Kamala and her Blackness by claiming she's trying to leverage ADOS votes...

...but you're full throated supporting Mayor Pete...?

He's obviously not trying to pander...is he...?

Kamala has a racial justice agenda

https://kamalaharris.org/issue/fighting-for-racial-justice/

You ain't gotta lie.

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79. "williamson too lol"
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the thrust of most of this (and why it's being pushed by Trump/nonvoters and sometimes rogue Biden/Bernie people) is that Kamala isn't Black so she isn't authentic, the only ones we can trust are the ones who are 1000000000000000000% white.

  

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81. "I actually really liked her answer"
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I can't remember the question

I want to say the topic was healthcare, because it felt like half the debate was about medicare for all

But she started talking about the deficiencies in health care and coverage for black americans

and tied that to infant mortalities, life expectancies, etc...

Basically making the case that healthcare is also a racial issue

I was really excited for someone to tie those issues together

Lowkey, Obamacare was not only about universal coverage, it was an attempt to redistribute wealth

...and you see how she's been smeared post debate as a loon, etc...

That is to say, I don't think her stances are driven by ulterior motives

She's not a serious candidate, but her input is refreshing and important.

Fools are buying the idea that a YT POTUS is going to offer reparations

...but seriously don't think a Black POTUS would do anything to benefit black americans...

SMH

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85. "as a senator. what booker's platform for prez talkin bout for ados tho?"
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and i aint supportin nobody yet but nice try

yall really like takin shit out on da messenger lol


somebody asked who got ados specific shit in they platform for prez and i answered

buttigieg and williamson da only ones that even mention reparations for B-lack folk in they platforms:

https://peteforamerica.com/issues/
https://www.marianne2020.com/issues/racial-reconciliation-and-healing

but ctrl-f these:

https://kamalaharris.org/issue/fighting-for-racial-justice/
https://corybooker.com/issues/

cant say da same


and its a lotta mfuckas runnin wit hella baggage yo, includin kamala

if you really tryna do baggage olympics pete havin a awkward press conference bout a officer shooting kinda pale in comparison to biden bein buddies with strom thurmond n writin da gatdamn crime bill or kamala jailin niggas like crazy when she was AG

lol @ bringin up baggage as if dat helps kamala even a lil bit

ados surprisingly easy on her bout dat shit to be honest lol

  

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87. "Did you read your own link?"
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>https://www.booker.senate.gov/?p=press_release&id=937

"This bill would establish a commission to study the impact of slavery and continuing discrimination against African-Americans and make recommendations on reparation proposals for the descendants of slaves."

In other words, nothing. _explain555 and I aren't often on the same page, but he mentioned tangibles, which that isn't.

How do you even hold him accountable for that.
"You said you'd study, goddamnit!"
"We did. Found nothing, sorry."

Let me also make it clear that I haven't seen anything worth a damn from Buttigieg either. Williamson seems to have the right idea, but far from the right numbers.

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89. "well Buttigieg put out dat Douglass Plan while ago"
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i think i posted bout it and niggas didnt really care lol

but if we talkin tangibles it aint bad

it aint bout me boostin nobody in particular but when barely any candidates proposin shit at a Douglass Plan level da shit is kinda lazy


https://www.charlestonchronicle.net/2019/06/11/buttigiegs-message-ahead-of-bet-black-economic-alliance-forum/

Buttigieg’s Message Ahead of BET Black Economic Alliance Forum

By The Charleston Chronicle | June 11, 2019

A week from now, our nation will celebrate Juneteenth. It marks the day when enslaved Black people in Texas learned–almost two years after the fact–that the Emancipation Proclamation had rendered them free people. It is a fundamentally American occasion–a celebration of freedom, but also an acknowledgement of freedom delayed. As we observe this day, we must be honest that the hopes stirred almost 160 years ago have still not been fully realized.

Black Americans are not yet fully free when Black unemployment is still almost twice the national average, when the average Black eighth grader reads at a level far below their white peers, and when Black mothers are 3-4 times more likely to die from pregnancy-related complications than white women. We lack true freedom when so many schools are almost as segregated as they were before Brown v. Board of Education. And, we cannot have freedom when identical resumes with stereotypically white or Black names lead to wildly different chances of being hired. These persistent inequalities have compounded over hundreds of years. They hold back our economy and corrode the American soul.

Replacing racist policies with neutral ones will not be enough to deliver equality. We must actively work to reverse these harms, which is why I propose that we invest in equity with a plan as bold as the Marshall Plan that rebuilt Europe after World War II. Let’s call it the Douglass Plan for Black America, in honor of Frederick Douglass, who called America to better live up to its promise. Such a plan could help heal the deep wounds of America’s original sin and supercharge economic growth for every American.

Like my campaign, the plan is structured around three values: freedom, security, and democracy.

When it comes to freedom, America–with only about 5% of the world’s population–is home to nearly 25% of the world’s incarcerated population, and this population is disproportionately Black. We would be a safer and more just country if we did not harshly penalize the poor, or young people who’ve made missteps. By reducing sentencing disparities and ensuring that every returning citizen can reintegrate into society, I commit to using every tool possible to end unnecessary and discriminatory incarceration, with the result of reducing the number of Americans incarcerated by 50 percent. This is not a random target, but the hard math on how many Americans should not be locked up in the first place.

True security means being able to provide food, shelter, and a livelihood. Yet today–as a direct result of slavery, Jim Crow, and ongoing discrimination large and small–for every $100 in wealth a white family has, the average Black family only has $5.04. To combat this wealth gap and encourage greater economic security within the Black community, America should triple the number of entrepreneurs from underserved areas–particularly ones of color–within ten years. This would create over 3 million new jobs and more than $660 billion in new wealth for Black communities and our country, through a number of policies to support this goal. For example, I’m proposing a federal fund–modeled on a Maryland program–that would co-invest in entrepreneurs of color, particularly in low-income communities.

We want to increase the number of successful small businesses in Black communities by 50%, by reforming credit scoring, increasing access to credit, and supporting long-term growth. Under my administration, the federal government will also almost triple its contracting business with minority-owned firms, from just over 9% to 25%. This single proposal could inject more than $100 billion in communities of color. The Douglass Plan would further support the next generation of Black entrepreneurs by expanding access to capital, training entrepreneurs, and rigorously and tracking our progress.

Lastly, we must safeguard our democracy. Americans have lost faith in a political system where dollars outvote people, and where politicians fail to deliver even on ideas supported by an American majority.

This cynicism is nowhere more warranted than in the Black community, where systematic efforts are taking away the right to vote. To counteract this troubling trend, we commit to advancing a 21st Century Voting Rights Act, to ensure that every vote is counted everywhere, particularly in communities with a history of discrimination. This means banning practices like voter ID laws and ensuring that potentially discriminatory changes to voting laws first be reviewed by the Department of Justice. We are not a true democracy if certain Americans are restricted from voting because one party has decided they would be better off if fewer people vote.

I’ll have a lot more to say about these policies in the coming weeks. But the time to act is now. Frederick Douglass once noted that “Power concedes nothing without a demand. It never did and it never will.” So let’s demand greater freedom, security, and democracy for communities that need it most. Doing so will enrich not just Black America, but all Americans.

Pete Buttigieg, mayor of South Bend, Indiana and candidate for president of the United States

  

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90. "I’m sorry but I’m not ready to give booty Jay"
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a pat on the back for this just yet.

What has he done for black folk in South Bend?

I get that these white folk need to cater to us to get our votes but it doesn’t mean shit if you don’t have a history of helping out Black folk while in office.

Bernie and Warren kinda get around it by being in some small ass white ass states but this is also why they may struggle to connect with Black folk in the primaries.

I will admit I don’t know what Kamala has done either. I’m not really ok research mode yet.

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94. "lol hey man idgaf do what you feel i just be disseminatin info"
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i seen a super long thread on twitter little while ago but cant find it

its some black women on there surrogatin for him heavy cant remember they handles

i found dis shit but kinda shady since aint no way to know who wrote it. its some references tho

https://medium.com/@JS_M/a-comprehensive-list-of-pete-buttigiegs-efforts-to-promote-racial-justice-and-equity-in-south-bend-f36195648f04

Throughout his campaign, Pete Buttigieg has stressed the importance of reversing systemic racial inequality— built over centuries through intentional racist policies—with intentional and targeted anti-racist policies. Asked following his recent South Bend town hall whether he’s done enough, or anything at all, to put this into practice as mayor, he stated: “I don’t want to seem defensive, but we have taken a lot of steps. They clearly haven’t been enough. But I can’t accept the suggestion that we haven’t done anything.”

To fact-check this statement, I decided to pull together a comprehensive (but not necessarily complete) list of Buttigieg’s work to promote racial justice and equity as the mayor of South Bend. Please note that many of these items were achieved by or in conjunction with the team members, community leaders and residents he has empowered to help build a more equitable society.

While these efforts have been extensive, they aim to tackle complex problems and often require efforts far beyond the reach of city government. South Bend has made some huge strides, yet, like every city, it clearly still has a long way to go. But the main thing I would argue this list shows is how deeply its Mayor, government, and community care about finding solutions.

Government and Community

Appointed South Bend’s first Diversity & Inclusion Officer. This position was established to oversee the administration’s goal of advancing diversity and equal opportunity in the city’s work force and contracts.
Passed an Executive Order calling on leaders to evaluate the city’s current policies and develop a plan to promote more diversity and inclusion within city government. It also codified the role of the Diversity & Inclusion Officer to oversee these city-wide diversity and inclusion initiatives.
When local leaders asked for $3.5 million to renovate the Charles Black Community Center, which serves the historically black LaSalle Park neighborhood, Buttigieg managed to push through $4.5 million. Buttigieg was praised in a statement by the center’s director, Cynthia Taylor: “You’re gonna have to invite him in, you’re gonna have to sit him down, you’re gonna have to show him the issue,” she says. “Because he definitely will listen.”
As part of the Center’s expansion, its computer lab will host the new Center for Learning, Information, Connectivity, and Knowledge (CLICK). This CLICK Center is part of an effort by the City of South Bend aimed at growing digital inclusion and helping community members gain the technology and digital literacy skills necessary to thrive in 2018 and beyond.
Started South Bend Youth Task Force to foster youth involvement in government and community, help start conversations about racial divides, school biases, and other issues affecting the youth of south bend.
South Bend was named one of seven High-Performing “Race-Informed” Cities in the 2018 Equipt to Innovate national survey of American cities. The designation covers cities that foster supportive environments for collective community-wide racial healing and systemic structural equity.
The survey, a joint initiative by Living Cities and Governing magazine, offered high praise of South Bend’s efforts to target structural racism: “Rooted in an understanding that government at all levels has played a role in creating and maintaining racial inequity, resulting in a lack of access and opportunity for people of color in everything from education and employment to housing and healthcare, these cities seek to redress structural racism through an analysis of their own operations and make necessary changes in policy and practice.”
Brought Obama’s 2016 My Brother’s Keeper alliance to South Bend, bridging city and local organizations to address opportunity gaps for boys and young men of color.
Renamed one of the most prominent streets in downtown South Bend after Dr. Martin Luther King Jr, overcoming 40 years of resistance by white business owners and death threats to minority members of the naming committee.
Worked with La Casa de Amistad, South Bend’s main Latino outreach center, to create an innovative, first-of-its-kind governmentally endorsed/privately run municipal identification card, in order to ensure the small city’s approximately 4,500 undocumented immigrants had access to services. With a private organization managing the card rather than the government, the city avoided a major deterrent stopping immigrants from signing up for similar municipal ID programs.
Buttigieg signed an executive order requiring local services and institutions — like law enforcement, schools, the water utility and libraries — to accept the card as a valid form of identification. The city also enlisted local businesses, such as financial institutions and drugstores, so cardholders could open bank accounts and pick up prescriptions.
Of the 16 city employees reporting to the mayor, all six of the staff of color and women were his appointments within his tenure as mayor. Together they comprise 37.5 percent of the mayor’s direct report staff. While this number is in line with the Equal Employment Opportunity Tabulation (a national data set used by all federal contractors to measure staff diversity) national benchmark of 36.7, and higher than the Indiana regional benchmark of 22.1 percent, the administration has stated that increasing government-wide representation of underrepresented populations continues to be an ongoing goal.
During his 2015 election, he instructed his campaign team to use his re-election TV spots to help local Black leader Kareemah Fowler win her bid for City Clerk and become the first minority in St. Joseph County to seat a full-time executive office.
Participates in and allocates resources for events that matter to minority communities in South Bend, both fun celebrations year-round and important protests like those for Eric Logan, the hoodie march for Trayvon Martin , and the 2017 Women’s March .


Public Safety and Policing


Empowered the Office of Diversity and Inclusion to shape a comprehensive slate of self-awareness and training programs for officers: Offered or administered the Diversity Awareness Profile and the Harvard Implicit Bias Test to officers. Instituted Implicit Bias Training for South Bend’s police force. Instituted Civil Rights Training for South Bend’s police force. Instituted workshops on: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion; Understanding the Human Brain and Implicit Bias; and Micro-aggression and Micro-affirmation. Tied the principals of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion into the Workplace Handbook.
Worked with Police Department to ensure extensive focus on community policing, including through various measures overseen by the Office of Diversity and Inclusion: Created “Cultural Competency” calendars; Hosted monthly “Diversity Dialogue Lunches”; Held Law Enforcement and Local Men of Color small group summits; Held neighborhood Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion workshops; Hosted Unity Summits focused on “sharing your stories”; And implemented a Job Shadowing rotation program.
Noted in his 2018 state of the city address that officers conducted “7,000 foot patrols, attended 168 neighborhood meetings, and conducted ‘Coffee with a Cop’ outreach opportunities around our community.” As a result of this and other initiatives, he said, “the number of incidents leading to a use of force has gone down by a third in the last four years, and the number of investigations and complaints against police officers has fallen dramatically.”
Oversaw a slate of changes to ensure accountability for officers: The Office of Diversity and Inclusion helped design, customize, and successfully implement a new Staff Performance Evaluation system, and instituted annual departmental diversity and inclusion goals.
Invested $1.5 million to equip South Bend police officers with body cameras and upgrade vehicle dash cameras, in order to ensure safety and accountability for both residents and officers.
Pushed for total transparency on officer use of force, allowing residents to see what was happening and hold the department accountable. Instituted South Bend Police’s “Open Data Hub”, an online transparency database, so any resident can easily get data on crime statistics, case reports (including the number of times police had to use force when answering a call), and shows both officer complaints and compliments. The transparency hub was noted for being very advanced for a city of South Bend’s size.
While all police firings and disciplinary action must be made by the civilian Board of Public Safety under Indiana law , Buttigieg has appointed an African-American majority (3 out of 4 positions; 1 currently vacant) in order to ensure public trust and accountability.
Placed an emphasis on diversity recruitment initiatives in the police force. Designed, customized, and successfully implemented a new Career Path Development system.
Launched the “Home Grown Project”, a nomination process for local residents and particularly students of color (Phase 1 is currently underway).
Made applications available online, to ease the process of applying.
Publicly released all data on their diversity recruiting efforts on the front page of the SBPD website. When the data suggested that minority applicants often dropped out before the physical test, the SBPD began to offer a practice physical test prior to the official test.
Devoted resources and implemented programs to prevent crime from happening in the first place: Launched the South Bend Group Violence Intervention (SBGVI) which “unites community leaders around a common goal: to stop gun violence and keep South Bend’s highest risk citizens alive and out of prison.” The program aims to reduce violence by providing member of street groups avenues to succeed. Buttigieg fought to ensure continued funding and expansion of the program in the city’s 2019 budget.
Adopted and implemented the Juvenile Detention Alternative Initiative (JDAI), a pilot program which works to improve lock-up conditions while vetting the types of kids needing to be detained. The model is now operating in nearly 300 counties nationwide, often dramatically reducing detention facility populations.
Instituted ShotSpotter technology, a series of acoustic sensors throughout the city that allows police to pinpoint and react to gunshots almost immediately.
South Bend Common Council unanimously passed the Gun Violence Prevention Resolution, which calls on federal and state lawmakers to require background checks for all gun sales and close loopholes that give certain domestic abusers easy access to guns. The vote was praised by Moms Demand Action and Everytown Survivor Network.


Housing


Instituted the ‘1,000 Houses in 1,000 Days’ program to repair or demolish vacant and abandoned houses, after residents in low-income communities routinely identified vacant and abandoned houses (caused by South Bend’s population decline from 130k to 100k) as a leading health, safety, and economic problem in their neighborhoods.
The program recently entered a new phase in which the city is providing free legal and financial assistance to the low-income community members who live next to the torn down homes so that they can purchase the lots and build up their own communities.
Statistics have shown that criminal activity has decreased within a half mile of vacant and abandoned homes addressed by the city.
It was sometimes hard to discern owners of the abandoned houses, and early on some well-meaning residents found vacant houses they were hoping to renovate slated for demolition. However, Buttigieg was praised for quickly addressing the issue. When property owned by local resident and activist Stacey Odom ended up on the demolition list, she confronted the mayor during a chance encounter on the street. He later held a series of meetings with her and others to talk about the plan, and she credits the mayor with getting her home — and 40% of other residents’ homes — removed from the list.
Funded a Home Repair Pilot Program, a grant program to help low-income residents repair & keep homes. Activist Stacey Odom originally asked the mayor for $300,000 for the grant program, and he countered, she said, with $650,000. Odom later said: “that’s the kind of person you want in office, someone who is looking at your best interests. And if they’re not, if you go to them and tell them what your interests are, then they will take your concerns and make them their concerns.”
Empowered and funded National Service programs, including the South Bend Green Corps (an AmeriCorps program) which works with lower-income families to increase their homes’ energy efficiency, safety and comfort, and Love Your Block (a municipal partnership with Cities of Service), which provides small grants and resources to community organizations that help families with small home repairs. These programs, together with the Home Repair Pilot Program, make up a $1+ million South Bend Home Repair initiative to improve quality of life for residents with a strong emphasis on working with neighborhoods.


Economic Prosperity


Started Office of Engagement & Economic Empowerment to help address South Bend’s wealth gap
Commissioned the Racial Wealth Divide Initiative, a comprehensive report on South Bend’s wealth inequality, through national advocacy group Prosperity NOW. Dedrick Asante-Muhammad, the researcher who compiled the Prosperity Now report, praised Buttigieg’s efforts and said he was the first mayor of any city to ask him to do this. “He didn’t solve racial economic inequality,” said Asante-Muhammad, “but what city has?”
Based on the results of the Racial Wealth Divide Initiative, held seminars across the community that gave neighborhood leaders the tools to identify the existing talents and skills of residents and connect them into business opportunities.
Funded the West Side Small Business Resource Center, the first in a series of community centers aimed at lifting minority entrepreneurs and generating new wealth in underserved areas. According to James Summers, chairman of the project: “This initiative is a truly grassroots and community-focused approach to generating new wealth through small business. The center provides unprecedented access to resources and networking, and as local businesses grow and employ neighbors, the entire community is strengthened.”
Available services at the Small Business Resource Centers will include mentoring, access to Small Business Development Center services, Small Business Administration, Small Business Innovation Research, and Small Business Technology Transfer program training and support. In addition, the center will provide professional services and encourage local business networking to identify opportunities to connect, collaborate, and create exponential growth. The center will also offer functional space for business meetings and workshops.
Empowered Office of Diversity and Inclusion to ensure government contracts and purchasing targets minority- and women-owned businesses vendors within the city’s marketplace, and commissioned a study of current practices to ensure progress and accountability.
Awarded a $50k CommunityWINS grant in 2018 (one of six cities) based on the partnership between Near Northwest Neighborhood and the City of South Bend to fund a minority and women contractor training program. The grant funds were used to create and operate a year-long program of training and certification for minority and women contractors in areas including business planning, contract law, insurance and bonding, lead certification, project cash flow, and other topics designed to equip small business contractors.
Awarded a $50k Inclusive Procurement Grant in 2019 (one of ten cities) based on South Bend’s pursuit of innovative, effective, locally-tailored strategies to leverage public purchasing power in order to develop firms owned by people of color. Local initiatives range from implementing aggressive outreach strategies, developing procurement portals and creating an ecosystem of support services for firms owned by people of color to increase their opportunities to gain city contracts.
Enlisted local financial institutions to accept the privately run municipal identification card so that cardholders could open bank accounts, removing a major barrier to financial independence faced by the city’s undocumented population.
In concert with efforts to increase minority representation in city government , he fought to raise the minimum wage for city employees. His plan called for a raise from $7.25 to $10.10 by 2018, but he was able to accelerate the schedule to accomplish it by 2016.
1) Viewpoint: City taking steps to build diversity

2) Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s executive order on diversity and inclusion in South Bend city gov’t

3) Charles Black Community Center unveiled Thursday, community reflects on legacy and future

4) Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s Unlikely, Untested, Unprecedented Presidential Campaign

5) Charles Black Recreation Center Re-opens After $4.4 Million Renovation

6) South Bend mayor starts Youth Task Force

7) South Bend named high-performing “race-informed” city

8) South Bend sees success in young boys, men of color through ‘My Brother’s Keeper’ alliance

9) What Would Black America Be Like Under President Pete? Ask South Bend

10) South Bend ID cards aim to ease life for undocumented immigrants

11) Buttigieg’s big accomplishment that he never mentions on the campaign trail

12) Tweet from Kareemah Fowler

13) City Clerk: Spread the message of diversity during Black History Month

14) Pete Buttigieg speaks at the March 2012 Million Hoodie March in honor of Trayvon Martin

15) Photo of Pete Buttigieg at the National Women’s March in 2017

16) Christina Brooks, director of Diversity and Inclusion, shares a list of active initiatives and programs her department is overseeing at the police department

17) What Mayor Pete Couldn’t Fix About the South Bend Cops

18) Q&A with Mayor Pete Buttigieg about his plans for communities of color

19) Mayor Pete Buttigieg’s 2018 State of the City address

20) Officers in South Bend are getting new body cameras and car cameras

21) South Bend launches new data hub with crime stats

22) Indiana Code 36–8–3–4. Police officers and firefighters; discipline, demotion, and dismissal; hearings; appeals; administrative leave

23) City leaders: Lack of diversity plaguing South Bend Police Department

24) Our Opinion: Recruiting minority police officers must remain a priority for South Bend

25) South Bend Group Violence Intervention

26) Proposed city budget leaving room from group violence intervention

27) St. Joseph County youth detention alternative gets grant

28) ShotSpotter: South Bend Police say technology helping ‘solve crime’

29) Gun Violence Survivor, Indiana Moms Demand Action Applaud South Bend Common Council for Unanimously Passing Gun Violence Prevention Resolution

30) South Bend’s Vacant and Abandoned Housing Challenge: 1,000 Houses in 1,000 Days

31) Vacant Property Initiative Resident Legal Assistance Program

32) Crime decreases with 1,000 homes in 1,000 days project

33) Pete Buttigieg pushed an aggressive plan to revitalize South Bend. Not everyone felt its benefits.

34) Home Repair Pilot Program to fund about 65 home improvements

35) Pete Buttigieg says he’s mayor of a turnaround city. Here’s how that claim stands up.

36) South Bend officials highlight home repair programs

37) South Bend to keep fighting for the best future for the next generation

38) South Bend community group to host meeting about racial wealth divide

39) ProsperityNOW Report: Racial Wealth Divide in South Bend

40) South Bend project hopes to grow small businesses and target racial wealth divide

41) New business center in South Bend aims to lift minority entrepreneurs

42) City of South Bend opens West Side Small Business Resource Center

43) Breaking down South Bend’s Diversity Purchasing Report

44) Buttigieg, Near Northwest Neighborhood, Inc. to celebrate CommunityWINS Grant

45) South Bend Receives $50k Inclusive Procurement Grant

46) Buttigieg proposes accelerated minimum wage increase for city employees

  

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103. "Obviously you do with that long ass post"
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Why you in your feelings b?

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108. "Maya Pete gone save us."
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135. "LOL nah no shade bruh for real "
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im chillin

dat shit was a long ass swipe tho i prolly shoulda just put da link lol

  

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96. "I thought this was a good objective summary of her record"
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https://www.vox.com/future-perfect/2019/1/23/18184192/kamala-harris-president-campaign-criminal-justice-record




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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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146. "testimony vid from a black south bend resident"
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https://twitter.com/AJ_Indiana/status/1145671613108641793

  

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154. "Nah more like "testimony vid from a black Mayor Pete surrogate""
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https://twitter.com/keithboykin/status/1142233502257225728

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93. "i hope Kamala cancels Biden and MAGA cancels Kamala"
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just so Bernie can get in

  

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95. "lol"
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101. "Damn co-signing MAGA"
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People in this thread and on the board need to stop running scared.

https://newsone.com/3881492/stop-telling-black-folks-to-settle-for-presidential-candidates/



Stop Telling Black Folks To Settle For A Candidate Just To Beat Trump In 2020
Encouraging people to vote simply for the person with the best chance to beat Trump minimizes marginalized people’s demands under the guise of solidarity.
Written By David Dennis Jr.

Posted June 29, 2019

Donald Trump’s presidency has us barreling into a recession, astronomical debt, unprecedented political corruption, a Jim Crow-like fervor for anti-Blackness, existential human extinction thanks to climate change denial and impending nuclear war. It’s obvious that history – humanity survives long enough for history to exist – will paint him as one of, if not the worst presidents in American history. But he’s also managed to do something very few presidents have ever been able to accomplish: He has fulfilled just about every important promise he’s made to his voting base.

Trump ran on the promise of white supremacy. He’s run on the promise that he will lie, manipulate and hate his way to the hearts of people who want to see innocent brown children in cages. The president’s greatest success, however, may have been his ability to shift reality at his whim like a less eloquent Thanos. He’s maintained an ability to shift the political and social discourse – especially in media and politics – further right and further towards his warped interpretation of what’s considered true.

When Trump lies, so many outlets refuse to call him out for it. When he spouts racism, euphemisms like “racially charged” and “racially tinged” get tossed around. When full investigations come out refusing to exonerate him for high crimes, Democratic leaders bristle at the idea of impeachment.

His Republican Party — the same GOP that half a century ago crossed lines to vote to impeach Richard Nixon and just two years ago vociferously recoiled at the idea of following someone like Donald Trump — is outwardly teasing the idea of a third Trump term, stealing Supreme Court seats, enforcing rigged gerrymandered elections and looking more like an evil sect than a political party. Trump has succeeded in shifting the fabric of America so far right, and so far into the uncharted territory of political darkness, that anything remotely left of that looks like a beacon of light.

That’s where the Democratic primary debates come in. By most accounts, Joe Biden is a lock to defeat Trump in 2020. A poll conducted by the Hill has Biden winning by six percentage points. That same poll has Sanders as the only Democratic candidate with even a minute advantage to unseat the president. Biden and Bernie Sanders are tied with the largest advantage over Trump in a hypothetical presidential election according to an Emerson College poll, with 10 percentage point leads each. As a result, especially in Biden’s case, there’s been a tendency to encourage people to vote simply for the person with the best chance to rid us of Donald Trump. That framing of the election has too frequently revolved around who has the best chance of defeating Donald Trump. And part of that framing includes minimizing marginalized people’s demands and wants all under the guise of solidarity.

That solidarity means Black folks being asked to put aside the issues we’ve fought for over the past four years. But we deserve better. Thursday night’s Democratic debate showed that Biden has, at the very least, some concerning issues in regard to race – his busing legislation, his crime bill endorsements, his recent comments about working with Senate racists – that deserve all the pushback it’s gotten. And if Black people see his record as enough to dissuade us from voting for him, we should be able to do so without being shamed into believing we must compromise our demands to bail this country out of a crisis we didn’t put it in. Remember: The majority of white people voted for Donald Trump. The overwhelming majority of Black people did not.

That goes beyond just Biden, of course. If Black folks don’t want to vote for Kamala Harris and her prosecutorial history or Sanders for not being descriptive enough with his plan for African-Americans or any other candidate, then we shouldn’t be rebuffed by people asking us to stay in lockstep with a party that doesn’t meet our needs.

But really this isn’t about Biden or any of the candidates. It’s about a confluence of circumstances that always seem to pop up when Black people have a chance to assert our rights to determine the direction our country is headed. We’re always told to wait. To be silent. To put our needs to the side for the betterment of some larger group that doesn’t ever seem concerned with what we need or want.

We don’t win by settling for pseudo-Republicans simply because they’re “not as bad as Trump.” We win by voting for who wants to meet our needs. So, to Black folks: Vote for who you believe in; who will work with you; who you can challenge; who seems more presidential. Whatever your criterion is, stick to it. We’ve earned that right.

David Dennis, Jr. is a writer and adjunct professor of Journalism at Morehouse College. David’s writing has appeared in The Guardian, The Smoking Section, Uproxx, Playboy, The Atlantic, Complex.com and wherever people argue about things on the internet.

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123. "Yvette Carnell, founder of ADOS, wearing a MAGA hat"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BebgY4PxhGU

  

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129. "have you watched a single yvette cornell or tonetalks video?"
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from their channels?

  

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152. "Is this the grainy ass suspect video that looks photoshopped? "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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153. "Lmao. Yeah.. she sounds bad here"
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98. "she's not. "
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She's an immigrant kid, but no, she's not a Foundational Black American/ADOS.

That's not a slight, tho...just a fact.

  

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99. "..it's also not a claim she made..."
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100. "ehhh, she absolutely is using Black culture/history as a prop"
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repeatedly
While offering zero policy for us

  

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102. "she went to Howard and pledged AKA, if that ain't "black culture" then....."
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I guess I don't know what that is.

Y'all trying to act like she's Rachel Dolezal.

  

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104. "White husband "
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That’s what it’s really about.

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105. "is it?"
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>That’s what it’s really about.

  

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119. "Mos def"
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I can’t think of any HBCU grads who got the side eye if their SO was Black

The doubt creeps in when you see the white spouse. Hell, we don’t even see him.

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107. "personally I think its irrelevant, but honestly I think it may help her...."
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get votes from some folks in a similar way that Obama's white mama helped him.

A dark-skinned dude name Leroy Jackson wearing a BLM shirt and shouting for reparations is not getting anywhere near the presidency of the United States and some folks need to accept that.

  

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112. "gotta be."
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113. "RE: gotta be."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13276823&mesg_id=13276823&listing_type=search#13276825

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116. "you called it."
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117. "Definitely"
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It’s my biggest grip with her

I doubt he is going to be on some “but what about your people?”

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110. "going to a HBCU and pledging a Black sorority don't mean "
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you're not a vulture.
Look, most Black Americans got direct roots to Jim Crow and slavery here.
That informs our lives and our politics.
Our lineage exists.
She's not a part of it, at all.
That don't mean she's less than.
But she ain't of my culture.
That + her policies = huge red flags.

Don't care about her husband, at all.

you can't be drape Black culture over yourself, then literally say you ain't gonna do anything just for Black people while campaigning TO Black people,and not expect that to cost you some votes.

  

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111. "do you feel this way about louis farrakhan?"
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>you're not a vulture.
>Look, most Black Americans got direct roots to Jim Crow and
>slavery here.
>That informs our lives and our politics.
>Our lineage exists.
>She's not a part of it, at all.
>That don't mean she's less than.
>But she ain't of my culture.

  

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125. "Yup."
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127. "lol good luck."
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114. "so I guess that IS what this is really about..."
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>Don't care about her husband, at all.

  

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106. "Is all this just an internet thing, or a real life thing?"
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I always have to ask myself this question.
Are even a tiny minority of black folks even aware of this ados stuff? Is there even a tiny minority that gives a damn.

Is the don Jr retweet a way to bring it into real life? Get mainstream avenues talking about.

Because I never heard of ados outside of okp and okp linked tweets

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109. "mostly an internet thing..."
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>I always have to ask myself this question.
>Are even a tiny minority of black folks even aware of this
>ados stuff? Is there even a tiny minority that gives a damn.
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>Is the don Jr retweet a way to bring it into real life? Get
>mainstream avenues talking about.
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>Because I never heard of ados outside of okp and okp linked
>tweets

I have one person on my FB timeline that goes hard on that and was a die-hard Bernie supporter and goes so hard against the entire democratic establishment including Obama that some people thinks she's secretly republican.

  

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118. "It’s a discussion we have but it rarely involved that acronym "
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It’s more of a “they are black but they aren’t Black”

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128. "oh it's a real life thing. Just not OKP circles"
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there is definitely a class/regional element to it.

  

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115. "LOL, I just clicked the 2nd link in the OP"
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Dude is lost

He's half indian/half black

claims he and CAMala* are nothing alike

*why does he insist on mispronouncing her name like W and SADam?

She was born in America to a black father, but he claims she's not American Black...? Maybe not ADOS, but she's definitely Black.

He claims his mother born in 1954 suffered through Jim Crow

But her black father and indian mother didn't suffer Jim Crow around the same time

He claims Kamala didn't suffer through Jim Crow, even though she was born in 1964

I could go on...but IMO, he's using ADOS to go after Kamala

He's claiming that Kamala and her family didn't suffer

He's wrong.

She never claimed american slavery ancestry...so I'm not sure what he's arguing.

LOL@she stole time by talking about busing...FOH

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121. "Nobody linked this 'ADOS is trash' Kweli article from April yet?"
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https://medium.com/@TalibKweli/why-ados-is-trash-receipts-attached-5a337f46f10

  

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122. "Beetlejuice"
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144. "Holy Shit. Didn't know it was that bad."
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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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145. "Welcome to the fold. "
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166. "was gonna post it when it happened "
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but it was so ridiculous that i didnt bother

kweli's receipts are wrong. the 'agitator' is not ADOS, just a dude tired of hearing abt russia. this was pointed out on day 1 but kweli still reposts the link.
dude throwing the punch=wrong.
tone talks arguing blk ppl are more compatible with Dwight Folks than africans and aligning with random becky for no reason = played himself.
yvette still looking silly wit that immigration reform group but comes off the least "wrong" in this instance



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167. "y'all really hate Black people"
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this article is dumb as hell

  

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124. "Everyone involved in any side of this is an idiot"
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Have fun eating yourselves.

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126. "Shut your white ass up"
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Just couldn't stay out of it

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141. "Idiot"
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This is nothing more than a different form of birtherism.

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142. "Shut your white ass up"
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Your involvement is your usual practice of racism.

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160. "^^Here's an example of a post that should get a user banned"
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>Your involvement is your usual practice of racism.


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130. "Would she get reparations? Who gets them if they happen? Only ADOS?"
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I got brown skin and my people from MO and LA but I might not actually be a descendant of a slave. Lot of Cherokee and Creole blood. Would I count as ADOS?? I know I am black but would I get a reparations check??

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131. "I'm pretty sure no one getting checks any time soon"
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>I know I am black but
>would I get a reparations check??

I could be wrong, but there's a long way between agreeing on reparations in principle and coming up w/an actual plan and distributing checks.

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
-Hunter S. Thompson

  

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132. "from the US? Why would she?"
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Think less about check distribution and more about lineage.
What connection does a Jamaican-Indian immigrant who came here after the CRM have to the greatest victims of American racsim?
Literally none. Just skin color.

  

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150. "Read the Color of Law"
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IT lays out the financial cost that the government imposed on black folks post slavery. If reparations are just for slavery then fine, but if you're talking about the history of government sanctioned, or required exploitation, then why shouldn't she?

  

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163. "I've read it. And the Color of Money"
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her lineage wasn't affected by either FHA/redlining post CRM, or the legalized theft and second class citizenship of post-reconstruction/Jim Crow.

PLUS she spent a good chunk of her childhood between Canada and India.
Also, research LBJ's initial intent for all of the Great Society programs.
Black immigrants were never intended to be reciepients of any of those programs.

  

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133. "She's an immigrant so her anti-black stances make sense..."
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She's the same person that refused to provide policy for black americans. She was appalled at the question and sarcastic in her response. This is the same person that wore an hbcu shirt and pandered to black Americans with Cardi B lyrics. I'll leave her husband out of this for purposes of being respectful.

Her Jamaican fam distanced themselves from her over her weed comment. She's part Indian as well and they don't rock with us as well one would think. In other words, she's a part of cultures that in some capacity distance themselves from black Americans.

She courts votes from other communities like her push for the equality act and wearing rainbow shirts yet refuses to provide substantial policy to the most loyal voting bloc of the democratic party.

People are waking up and are now refusing to vote for her. It's fascinating that the Democratic party would turn on black Americans over refusal to support a candidate that refuses to provide tangible resources to their community.

If someone thinks ADOS is about getting a check then they're misinformed and need to educate themselves. That or they're a second generation immigrant that comes from a community that benefited off black American struggle for civil rights only to enter America and shit on black Americans.

  

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134. "RE: People are waking up and are now refusing to vote for her"
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Why her?

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136. "Yup. "
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137. "Big Facts."
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Anti-gentrification, cheap alcohol & trying to look pretty in our twilight posting years (c) Big Reg
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138. "RE: Big Facts."
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She's an immigrant?

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147. "It's LITERALLY a birther argument that we all recognized as racist again..."
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... Obama.

But I was going too far to compare these cats to Trump voters.

These cats are the worst.



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158. "It’s not. It’s just a few uninformed people calling her an immigrant"
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See isn’t.

But she also isn’t ADOS.

Not sure why people can’t make that distinction and call it a day instead of trying to have it one way or the other.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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159. "Nah, it's more than that"
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You can click the 2nd link in the OP if you want your head to explode

But dude's issue is with her blackness...'she's not an american black'

Which isn't true.

She is absolutely Black

The attempt to label her an immigrant is just dumb

But those 2 points...questioning her blackness and citizenship...are absolutely pillars of birtherism.

SHE NEVER CLAIMED TO BE ADOS!!!

Dude's issue is she talked about busing, during a segment he believed should have been used to talk about reparations

He's basically dismissing her experience as a black female in america...because she's not ADOS

ADIOS ADOS!!!

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177. "Black how? She's 3/4 East Asian. "
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162. "My arguments are based on HER policy and statements."
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To dismiss me as a birther is laughable.

Address her statement about refusing policy for black americans.

I see ducking my points but its cool.

  

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151. "2 things:"
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1) The black American struggle for civil rights required folks like Garvey, Malcolm X, and a bunch of other black folks who were either from elsewhere, or were the children of black folks from elsewhere.

2)How is she an immigrant is she was born here?

  

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161. "She's a second generation immigrant and it shows..."
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>1) The black American struggle for civil rights required
>folks like Garvey, Malcolm X, and a bunch of other black folks
>who were either from elsewhere, or were the children of black
>folks from elsewhere.
>

I hate this argument people make for her. Later on when these people have children somewhere along the line they seperate themselves from black society and demean black americans as less than their culture. It's wonderful their ancestors accomplished something but what have THEY done recently outside of shit on black Americans for social prestige? Irony is they wouldn't be in this country if not for my black American ancestors fighting for their entrance then THEY, not everyone in their community but enough for people to notice, get over here and shit on black americans. These same people are now butthurt over black american political self interest.

>2)How is she an immigrant is she was born here?

She's a second generation immigrant and it shows in her stances towards issues that have an effect on the black american community. mY original post mentioned her jamaiacan and indian family...

Look at what her Jamaican fam said. They distanced themselves due to her attempt to pander to the black american community. Granted it's terrible pandering but pandering nonetheless.

I'm sorry for expecting a political candidate marketed by the Democratic party as a black candidate there to provide policy for the black american community to actually do it.


  

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168. "RE: She's a second generation immigrant and it shows..."
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>I hate this argument people make for her. Later on when these
>people have children somewhere along the line they seperate
>themselves from black society and demean black americans as
>less than their culture. It's wonderful their ancestors
>accomplished something but what have THEY done recently
>outside of shit on black Americans for social prestige? Irony
>is they wouldn't be in this country if not for my black
>American ancestors fighting for their entrance then THEY, not
>everyone in their community but enough for people to notice,
>get over here and shit on black americans. These same people
>are now butthurt over black american political self interest.

Your argument here makes no sense. I'm not making an argument for her, I'm pointing out how ludicrous the ADOS idea is. Black folks from the diaspora were instrumental to black American movement and culture including the civil rights movement. Marcus Garvey, Malcolm X, Stokely Carmichael, Sidney Poitier were all instrumental to the civil rights movement. I don't know what you're referring to with the shitting on people for prestige, but clearly, their ancestors and yours were fighting for the same things. Good luck man, you enjoy fighting people who look like you for scraps rather than joining the larger fight.

  

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139. "Judging this post, Don Jr. is a damn genius"
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lol

I didn't know there were people on this stuff, but he brought them out the woodwork.

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140. "smh"
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148. "speaking Pan-Africanly, this is true. "
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she is still a black woman, and anyone saying otherwise is drinking pee from a ecologically-friendly paper straw

However, Don Jr. should be sitting this one out.

People who are serious about "not wanting to be the political floor" of America should disavow that action immediately. can't let ofays do the sorting

  

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149. "Even that Kamala Reparations Video doesn't prove what yall think it does"
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It's a terrible look and I sent it to a few folks to slow down their Kamala Harris Enthusiasm, but I don't think it says exactly what yall think it says.

My problem with the clip is that she is mealy mouth, sarcastic and can't seem to answer directly a question plainly put to her. She sounded a lot like Hillary trying to have it both ways.

Instead of plainly answering whether she is for or against reparations, she seems to be making all of these arguments at the same time:

1. She supports race nuetral policies that will dissportionately help black people (lift Act).

2. Policies that benefit black people directly will benefit socities as a whole.


At any rate, I don't think it's so clear what she's trying to say in that clip but it does show me she isn't that great a politician speaking off the cuff.

But another thing, yall really think it's anti-black to be not supportive of reparations? You have to be pro-reparations to be pro-black?





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155. "well shit if mfuckas finna go hard for dreamers or lgbtq then why not?"
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>You have to be pro-reparations to
>be pro-black?
>
>


i think dats a big part of it

its all about da tangibles baby (c)

imma just quote tone's reaction to booker's big immigration plan lol:

https://twitter.com/tonetalks/status/1146067664588038145

But they say #ados demanding a black agenda is what is creating a issue with the democratic coalition? @CoryBooker if you’re this daring you can do a robust black agenda targeted at repairing #ados

  

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156. "It’s not anti Black but you better have a good reason why"
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Honestly, the best answer is it’s a waste of time because... America

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157. "I'm out on the ADOS movement b/w 2 big issues"
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One good thing to come out of this post, I've made a decision on ADOS

I ain't with it.

2 big problems I see with ADOS

1 - How are people going to establish lineage to American slavery?
I would imagine any legal documentation that would establish that claim...doesn't exist for the overwhelming majority of people
History was also stolen with slavery
My grandmama and nem told me...ain't gonna cut it

2 - I believe all black people in America deserve some form of reparations.
I know I have to stop just short of that for the actual policy, so I'll say...any black person born in america deserves some form of reparations
This slavery purity test is already too divisive...and there isn't even anything in the way of a settlement yet
Of course there should be levels to this shit...but just dismissing black americans...because...nah, I ain't with that

Put me on game if I'm wrong, but ADOS is some bullshit IMO.

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164. "You're wrong"
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1) sometihng like 95% of black america before the CRM was native born, slave descendant. There was a hard ban on Black immigrantion for most of American history. It's a pretty good chance that if you can trace your family tree to, like 1960 in America, you're a slave descendant. Plus, there is a push to teach lineage tracing in ADOS circles for the purpose of establishing a claim. PLUS, PLUS, you can use American immigration records to *eliminate* Black immigrants who came after 65.

2) FUCK no. I think the African world is owed reparations...from the "mother" colonies that exploited them. Caricom? holla @ the UK. Haiti? Holla @ France (and everybody, really). ETC, etc.
AND I REALLY HOPE THEY BUILD THEIR UNIQUE MOVEMENTS, cuz I'd support the fuck out of them
But FUCK no, not all Black people are due repair for American slavery. Cuz not all black people are owed THAT debt. And lumping all blackness to our claim, actually makes our task harder.

  

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165. "**gets jiggy with this reply**"
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169. "3 - it's a blank check for ALL transgressions "
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They state on their site...slavery...Jim Crow, redlining and mass incarceration.

That didn't effect just descendents of slavery and most certainly continued after 1960.

ADOS also makes a minority even smaller

Blacks are about 15% of the population

Their site states legal documentation

Not a good chance

Not grandma was here before 1960

Documentation.

I imagine some folks won't meet that criteria

So that 15% is going to drop

ADOS wants reparations for only those people and the settlement will cover every wrong in history

I can't ride with that given all of the transgressions in my lifetime, >1960.

The central park 5 got what...$80M...

If mass incarceration is an action item...I don't think it makes sense to limit the claims to only descendents of slavery.

If you are a black American, you have suffered.

I don't think a segment of black Americans will compel movement on legislation

It's not a big enough voting block

Every black american and their vote will be needed

Not including all black Americans splinters an already minority group

Reparations needs support from all of black anerica.

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170. "No."
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There can be more than one claim.
Because we're dealing with massive levels of atrocity.

Gen X ADOS and later ABSOFUCKINGLUTELY deserves redress for the drug war. Personally, I think it was as detrimental as Jim Crow to our communities. And the type of reparations claim I'm enviosioning opens a path for a claim for the new jim crow, at a later date.
People in Chicago deserve redress for the property theft that cost them specifically, BILLIONS.

etc, etc, etc.

But no, every black American doesn't have access to that claim.
And there are records that you can easily use to find your history (I was able to use military service history and local census records to get my family history to 1820). But to say that "we can't"...isn't at all accurate.


A West African professional who came here after recieving a free education in Europe to take an affirmative action job that my sharecropping parents couldn't get absolutely does not deserve to be in on that reparations claim.

That is patently obvious.

Non-ADOS black people, IF they are decent, just humans, would support our efforts even if they ain't getting a cut. Because OUR success creates a path for them in their homelands. Plus, legally, that doesn't make sense to include them.

When you examine the economic and political differences between the two groups, it will hit you like a ton of bricks just how different we are.

Y'all have very obvious mental and emotional blocks to the idea of a focused ADOS body politic. You're scrambling for ways to say no to yourself before asking, let alone fighting for what's yours.
Ok, but that's on you, tho.

  

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172. "Either these folks aren’t ADOS"
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or their condition has been conditioned.

We are the only group that has to share what we are owed because it’s selfish to want something for ourselves.

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173. "I think topics are being conflated, or you're misunderstanding"
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The text from HR40 reads...

To address the fundamental injustice, cruelty, brutality, and inhumanity of slavery in the United States and the 13 American colonies between 1619 and 1865

...that's not what the ADOS movement is stating

My fear, along with disenfranchising potential allies of black americans because they don't qualify for the ADOS definition, is that those additional claims

Jim Crow
Redlining
Mass Incaceration
etc...

will be folded into that settlement

ADOS is not advocating for JUST the timeframe of 1619-1865

it's all encompassing

from their website;
As a specific group with a specific justice claim, the #ADOS movement demands a specific agenda with policy prescriptions that address the losses stemming from the institution of slavery, Jim Crow, redlining, convict leasing, mass incarceration and immigration.

'murica settles the claim with ADOS

and gives a big GTFOH for subsequent claims as has been suggested

Do you think an ADOS specific reparations package gets approved...and then subsequent claims for Jim Crow, etc...also get approved?

OkayPlayer

Might as well give the country back to the native tribes while we're at it

That ain't happening.

I also think ADOS is putting the horse before the wagon

There won't be checks.

Reparations will most likely take the form of legislation and social programs

I doubt the benefits will be confined to ADOS

If ADOS was presented in that light, I think it would get more support

But a millenial screaming on a black woman who was bused to force integration, claiming her experience is not authentic black american

Yeah, that ain't it.

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174. "Yeah you dont know what you're talking about"
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ADOS framework push for reparations (such as it is) includes massive multigenerational social programs and infrastructure programs for ADOS people in addition to cash payments.
Check out some of the work by Sandy Darrity and Derrick Hamilton...again you're hunting for nos without understanding what's being asked & why.

  

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175. "William Darity: No. It’s not tied specifically to slavery. "
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In fact, in our book we try to make the argument that injustices that occurred after slavery are, at least, as important for building the case for reparations

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176. "Right, but his research goes up to redlining and housing"
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Discrimination.
He's not done anything related to the Drug War.
Yet.

  

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171. "I was somewhat sympathetic to ADOS "
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but this is just too much. I mean damn smh. Copala is still trash though.

  

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