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BlakStaar
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"Dad cheated on mom = skip his vow renewal?"


  

          

I agreed to read a poem at the vow renewal and 25th-anniversary marriage ceremony of my biological father and stepmom last year, but I really don't want to do it. 

Why?
- I generally don't enjoy being around my dad and my stepmother's family.
- Fear of public speaking 
- I agreed to do it two minutes after my stepmother texted me and asked to do back in September. I felt obligated...
- Within weeks of being asked to read the poem https://poets.org/poem/how-do-i-love-thee-sonnet-43], I learned by accident that my Dad cheated on my mom with my stepmother. They met at their church. You see, my biological parents attended separate church services when they were married, and the rest is history.

To be honest, I don't care about my dad's cheating as much as I care about not wanting to read this poem to a large group of people during a formal ceremony. I do not like my voice nor do I care to read a poem in an engaging manner. I'm afraid I'll read it in a monotone-Daria tone, and embarrass myself. 

Subconsciously, I think I came up with using my father's infidelity as an excuse to get out of this.

FYI: I would never tell my father and stepmother I know about the cheating. If I back out, I'll tell them I don't want to read a poem in front of large group of people, which is the truth. 

What say you?

I'm thinking, "Grow up and just go and get it over with." Or pass on the poem but attend the ceremony.

P.S. I'm Black, and yes I really did say, "stepmother" Shout out to my partial suburban upbringing at work. 

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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seems like a timing issue.
Jun 12th 2019
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RE: seems like a timing issue.
Jun 12th 2019
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how much will reading this mean to your dad/stepmom?
Jun 12th 2019
2
RE: how much will reading this mean to your dad/stepmom?
Jun 12th 2019
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      i would skip it
Jun 12th 2019
5
Never do anything you don't want to do. For ANYbody.
Jun 12th 2019
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Not even after you commit to it?
Jun 12th 2019
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Yep. If your heart isn't in it.....
Jun 12th 2019
9
This right here ^^^^^^^^
Jun 19th 2019
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Do what you feel is best for all involved? If, after already committing,...
Jun 12th 2019
8
If you don't want to, then don't. period. you're allowed to change your ...
Jun 12th 2019
10
You gave your Word. So, Practice, Spit that Poem and sit down.
Jun 12th 2019
11
This is what I say too, but it's not me.
Jun 12th 2019
12
Go but read it like Roger Rabbit.
Jun 12th 2019
13
Personally, I wouldn’t do it
Jun 12th 2019
14
So mom got you full time after the split?
Jun 12th 2019
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RE: So mom got you full time after the split?
Jun 13th 2019
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Unless u walk up in knickers & Shakespearean cosplay outfit
Jun 13th 2019
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Unless u walk up in knickers & Shakespearean cosplay outfit
Jun 13th 2019
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RE: Unless u walk up in knickers & Shakespearean cosplay out...
Jun 13th 2019
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If you don't want to, don't.
Jun 13th 2019
20
Don't make the event about yourself, you committed
Jun 14th 2019
21
Did you do it?
Jun 19th 2019
22
RE: Did you do it?
Jun 19th 2019
23
i backed out once...
Jun 19th 2019
25

tariqhu
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1. "seems like a timing issue."
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if you back out, how much time will they have to find a replacement?

but otherwise, I say just go ahead and knock it out. maybe it'll help with that public speaking anxiety.

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BlakStaar
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Wed Jun-12-19 01:16 PM

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3. "RE: seems like a timing issue."
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It will be easy for them to find a replacement. They have a very large extended family. Much larger than my mom's side.

They are a more typical Black family, i.e. God moms, god sons and god daughters, play cousins...

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"Music is not to be possessed; it's to be shared.” - James Mtume

"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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mista k5
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2. "how much will reading this mean to your dad/stepmom?"
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how much do you care about what it means to them?

  

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BlakStaar
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4. "RE: how much will reading this mean to your dad/stepmom?"
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1. I don't know.
2. I don't care at all. They know we're not close.

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"Music is not to be possessed; it's to be shared.” - James Mtume

"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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mista k5
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5. "i would skip it"
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what is the reason to do it? i guess you had already committed to it but if youre not feeling it maybe just let them know.

this whole formal celebration thing is foreign to me to be honest. not need to force something thats supposed to be heartfelt though.

  

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FLUIDJ
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6. "Never do anything you don't want to do. For ANYbody. "
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7. "Not even after you commit to it?"
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FLUIDJ
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9. "Yep. If your heart isn't in it....."
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24. "This right here ^^^^^^^^"
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My girlfriend wanted me to go with her to her good friend's wedding. Turns out that good friend met the guy she was marrying because he was their yard guy and she started fucking him and cheating on her husband...and their three kids. She basically broke their family apart. So the yard guy and the friend are now getting married.

I told my girlfriend FUCKS NO I WONT GO WITH YOU. Haha. Im not going to support that sham nonsense and celebrate what was actually the destruction of the family just because she is a friend of yours. She said she understood and she even changed her mind and didnt go.

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8. "Do what you feel is best for all involved? If, after already committing,..."
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Wed Jun-12-19 02:00 PM by Creole

  

          

believe that you'd be doing yourself a disservice and that you'd not be genuine to their cause, you should opt out in time to give them the opportunity to find someone else who would enjoy doing it.

This may be an opportunity though for you all to bridge gaps.

I wish you the best regardless of the angle you take.

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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Damali
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10. "If you don't want to, then don't. period. you're allowed to change your ..."
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11. "You gave your Word. So, Practice, Spit that Poem and sit down."
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12. "This is what I say too, but it's not me. "
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Gotta make that decision for their self.

  

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13. "Go but read it like Roger Rabbit. "
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14. "Personally, I wouldn’t do it"
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but I don’t know your situation.

If she is some “best thing that ever happened” to him tho...

if my biological ain't give her blessing I ain’t doing it.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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15. "So mom got you full time after the split?"
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Sounds like you don't even wanna see your paternal family at all.


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BlakStaar
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18. "RE: So mom got you full time after the split?"
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Yep.

My mom had full custody of me. My sister and I spent every other weekend + summers in the city with our Dad and stepmom up until my early teens. Thing is, my Dad was often MIA due to his professional obligations and social activities, e.g. golfing with his friends for several on Saturdays.

On top of that, my sister and Dad did not get along at all. Lots of yelling and screaming. I spent a lot of time in my room at my dad's crib scared of what was happening across the hallway.

Beyond that, I just like my mom and her folks better. My mother is not *that* "progressive," but she was more progressive than my father and she understood me. My Dad is on that old school/ Southern/disciplinarian/ your-elders-are-always-right shit. My mom was not. Mind you, I was fairly well-behaved as a kid, unlike my sis.

Another issue, which I think a OKP mod edited out of my original post (or I accidently erased): I'm a little different. I had wrote, jokingly, that in true OKP fashion, I am the black sheep of my family.

So, even when I'm around my mother and her side of the family, my soul gets a little weary. Lots of mental labor. I hate having to explain myself them. It's a real sore spot for me because I've yet to find my chosen family, people I can be my real self around without explanation. Mofos have had damn near 20 years to understand I don't eat and don't believe but they still ask and annoy me about it like I just made the decision five seconds ago. Ack! I'm the only one that does not live a traditional life so, yeah...

I will push back on the notion that my mother having full-time custody explains why I don't want to be around my father/stepmom and their folks. I'm not annoyed or anything. Just know there are plenty of people who don't want to spend time with parents who had full custody of them as kids.

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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16. "Unless u walk up in knickers & Shakespearean cosplay outfit "
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No one is gonna be making much of the impassioned delivery of a 8 line poem

If it's abt the public speaking I say just go and knock it out. Practice a bunch of times if you're really uncomfortable



If its Abt the cheating, depends on how mom and dad got along over the years. Most likely 20yrs layer everyone has made peace with the situation. Best outcome would be going and maybe getting cool with dad's side of the family



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17. "Unless u walk up in knickers & Shakespearean cosplay outfit "
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No one is gonna be making much of the impassioned delivery of a 8 line poem

If it's abt the public speaking I say just go and knock it out. Practice a bunch of times if you're really uncomfortable



If its Abt the cheating, depends on how mom and dad got along over the years. Most likely 20yrs layer everyone has made peace with the situation. Best outcome would be going and maybe getting cool with dad's side of the family



)))--####---###--(((

bunda
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get busy living, or get busy dying.

  

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BlakStaar
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19. "RE: Unless u walk up in knickers &amp;amp;amp; Shakespearean cosplay out..."
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Thu Jun-13-19 12:34 PM by BlakStaar

  

          

>If its Abt the cheating, depends on how mom and dad got along
>over the years. Most likely 20yrs layer everyone has made
>peace with the situation. Best outcome would be going and
>maybe getting cool with dad's side of the family

This is really about my dislike of public speaking and my father's family.

It really isn't about the cheating, which I discovered AFTER I agreed to read the poem. It certainly doesn't help, though.

My mom is not over it. She was the first to remarry practically within a year of the divorce. My dad got married the next year.

She doesn't like talking to my dad now, plus she talked shit about him all throughout my childhood. Still does, actually. LOL.

It's sad because I find out more year after year. For example, last year I asked my mom how long she breastfed me, and she told me only five months because "your father was giving me grief" with a stank face. I should add that my mother divorced her second husband and got married to another person while I was in college. But again, she's still talking shit about my dad, though she seems happy with stepdad No. 2. (Off topic: Is it possible to be "happily married" with your third husband but seemingly still butthurt about your first failed marriage? Serious question)

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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20. "If you don't want to, don't. "
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Just make sure that you tell them in enough time for them to make a different plan.

  

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21. "Don't make the event about yourself, you committed"
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Just do it, it's 2 minutes long and sounds like you need practice in front of groups

  

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22. "Did you do it?"
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BlakStaar
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23. "RE: Did you do it?"
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It’s not until later this month...

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"Just stay loose, keep it raw, and bang ya drums out sometimes." - Madlib

  

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25. "i backed out once..."
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a friend wanted me to read some bible verses during the ceremony. I was for it until I saw the people sitting there. I had another friend do it. The bride was pissed at me...

but yeah. I wasn’t a good friend that day...

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I think if you back out give them enough time to prepare. Don’t be like me lol

  

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