"On Earth 2 white people arent allowed to be cops" Mon Jun-10-19 08:52 AM by MEAT
I had a jack off call himself flashing his badge at me this morning Was he in a cop car? No a Jetta Was he in a cop uniform? No he looked and dressed like Johnathan Hodgeman But what he was was a white man. That was driving both below the speed limit and conditions in the fast lane. So when I passed him and gave him the appropriate finger his only response was to flash his badge at me To which I replied with an additional finger, and mouthed “I don’t care” and then gestured to the speedometer Was I wrong? No. Was I inappropriate? 50/50
But i also wasn’t the one trying to hide behind some false authority to justify my behavior.
Addendum: part of my irritation is that I’m quietly big on ethics and optics And to rule based systems, one crack begets more The manager that flirts with an intern The cop car that flashes its lights to get through an intersection The quid pro quo of capitalistic democracy ... all these things shake a foundation And as a black man I’ll NEVER have trust in police, but if they think it’s just the fact that they’re openly racist and murderous, it’s so much more. When your near every interaction with them is in th grey, how can you ever even begin to trust them.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 08:41 AM
1. "Googles Jonathan Hodgeman" In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
2. "Cops are, overall, insecure dickheads." In response to Reply # 0
Where I work is near a bunch of courthouses and other government buildings, so I see a lot of cops every time I go outside. The number that won't make eye contact with me, look all scared or puff their chest out is unfortunately high. Why is it so hard for them to fit into normal society and do shit like say "good morning" or nod?
Respect to the cops that aren't like the about. Kinda sad it's literally like 1/50 that I see.
Also southern road rage scare me, as well as drivers from New Jersey. Always seems *personal* with southern & NJ drivers. Passing someone too fast for their liking and they go into a rage, even tho they are ZERO percent affected by it. Honk at one of these mofos and the passive aggressive driving behaviours come out.
Add in a badge and sense of entitlement and I can imagine something like that.
BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85073 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 09:08 AM
4. "its strange having local PD as clients..." In response to Reply # 2
and then having to interact with them outside of work parameters. stark difference in how they act. i've definitely had to name drop a few folks bosses to get them to tighten up.
15. "Just call it what it is, I wasn’t polite. Not in the least " In response to Reply # 13
But it’s not the same as him literally flashing a police badge at me despite him behind socially and legally I the wrong. So please feel free to say I was being a jerk Or a dick But policing isn’t indicative of my behavior.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
12. "Guy drives slower than speed limit and conditions in the fast lane" In response to Reply # 9
Despite literal laws against doing so and opportunities not to do so Other cars follow suit because ... reasons? Despite what their eyes and general knowledge tell them Me, passes guy, gives him the finger
Y’all: omg that’s policing!
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
16. "That’s not what authority is. Are you dumb?" In response to Reply # 14
That’s full autonomy over my own behavior. Authority: the power or right to give orders, make decisions, and enforce obedience
Me ... did not flash, or tailgate, or aggressively use my vehicle to induce action ... no order given Make decision ... not relevant to the situation Enforce obedience ... no behaviors were changed, nor attempted to.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
17. "Are you from the south or New Jersey?" In response to Reply # 5 Mon Jun-10-19 10:01 AM by flipnile
This is what I'm talking about above. MEAT's actions had ZERO effect on the other driver, except EMOTIONALLY. People get all emo and act out in aggression because someone hurt their feelings are the problem.
21. "I don't consider "the finger" as road rage" In response to Reply # 18
Funny looks, stares, even yelling out the window... all easily ignored and have ZERO physical effect on anyone. Even flashing lights and honking don't directly affect anyone else. Just ignore the shit.
Road rage to me is intentionally cutting people off, brake checking, swerving/blocking lanes, speeding up to not let people pass, intentionally driving slow, throwing trash out of their windows, etc.
Anything that affects another driver's actions directly.
Extreme cases of aggressive driving can escalate to road rage. Examples of road rage are: Cursing and rude or obscene gestures Throwing objects Ramming Sideswiping Forcing a driver off the road
75. "Throwing the middle finger is not against the law" In response to Reply # 69
>There’s a clear difference between littering, assault, >rape, and murder. That doesn’t mean you should litter. > >Peace, > >Spirit (Alan) >http://wutangbook.com
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 11:45 AM
29. "I had to check my wife on that middle finger shit" In response to Reply # 0
it ain’t that serious.
Fuck around and give it to the wrong person on the wrong day and get your car shot up.
My friend knew a preacher who got into it on the turnpike. Dude followed him for 100 miles. He went and got a gun permit after that incident.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 01:07 PM
35. "He purposely drove past his exit and out of the way " In response to Reply # 32
so the guy wouldn’t know where he lived
He thought he finally lost him for a minute and then dude crept by slowly in a Walmart parking lot.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
33. "People are crazy, tempers are high, guns are easily accessible" In response to Reply # 29
I concede all of those things and still generally refuse to live a life terrorized by that threat. Not as a matter of smartness or even principle but just general exhaustion The gymnastics we have to do to survive a day to day life aren’t equivalent to the actual threats we face. We’re going to die of so many stress related illnesses
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 01:09 PM
36. "I would have to say giving someone the finger is more stressful" In response to Reply # 33
than just driving around them and going on about your day.
Don’t get me wrong, I have my pet peeves about drivers in the left lane but life is so much easier when you put things in their right place.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 01:14 PM
37. "My wife used to drive aggressive as hell" In response to Reply # 34
but then are insurance rates went up when she grazed an 89 Astrovan.
Having kids was the best thing that ever happened to her driving habits.
It’s not about being first or balling out. Just get home safe. The fuck you so mad anyways?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
38. "I Used To Do That Shit" In response to Reply # 29
I remember following someone that cut me off from Denville to Secaucus, NJ (about 40 miles). I followed him all the way to his job. Got out and walked right behind him into his office building and got on the elevator with him. Didn't say a word, just stared at him. Once the 5th floor hit he ran to the phone to call security. I actually called out of my job that day because I was so pissed that he cut me off
I've calmed down a lot since then. Don't see the point in flipping the bird anymore. Just take the minor L and move on with life, especially now I got the little one in the car with me almost all the time
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
When dude cut me off, didn't even do the obligatory "my bad" wave. Just cut me off and kept going. I had to swerve to miss a truck.
That happened, I called my boss and said, I'm sick, can't come in. Then followed dude. I look back at it now and it was just funny because I never said a word to him, but followed him and just kept looking at dude when I got out the car and into the office building. When we was on the same elevator, I was like Bishop in Juice on the elevator, just ice-grilling him...lol
I was crazy with the rage. I actually pulled over in the middle of NY (7th Ave by Madison Square Garden) and banged on some cabbie's hood because he honked at me.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 01:50 PM
44. "A bike messenger spit on a taxi in Old Town in Philly" In response to Reply # 42
Short African dude knocked him the fuck out.
Dude was tall too so it took him a while to slide down the side of the taxi
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
65. "Back in the early 00s, a cab kept tailgating my on Broad Street..." In response to Reply # 44
...I got pissed because he was killing my buzz with his lights, so I grabbed a handful of pennies out the ashtray and tossed them out the windows out over my roof. Heard the "clink" sounds of them bouncing off his hood. Felt like "yeah!" at the time, but a little later I felt like an asshole for doing that. Still do.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 02:53 PM
49. "Folks mad at life and taking it out on random people in cars. " In response to Reply # 46
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Tue Jun-11-19 07:22 AM
54. "He called into work... lol" In response to Reply # 53
Yeah, he was sick alright.
I mean... some people don’t have that little guy on their shoulder that tells them “nah bruh, tf you doing???”
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
>I remember following someone that cut me off from Denville to >Secaucus, NJ (about 40 miles). I followed him all the way to >his job. Got out and walked right behind him into his office >building and got on the elevator with him. Didn't say a word, >just stared at him. Once the 5th floor hit he ran to the phone >to call security. I actually called out of my job that day >because I was so pissed that he cut me off > >I've calmed down a lot since then. Don't see the point in >flipping the bird anymore. Just take the minor L and move on >with life, especially now I got the little one in the car with >me almost all the time
39. "I ride a bike, so I do this too:" In response to Reply # 29 Mon Jun-10-19 01:31 PM by flipnile
>got a gun permit
Just for the psychos ready to run someone over or fight over their feelings getting hurt.
Mofos find any reason to get outraged. I've seen dudes looked pissed because their SUV/minivan couldn't keep up with my bike from a light. WTF were they expecting?
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-10-19 01:36 PM
41. "Yeah. Y’all get it the worst. " In response to Reply # 39
Philly dirtbikes tho, I hated those dudes.
Zooming past my window on one wheel and shit
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
70. "I wouldn't say "handled". that shit was the old & washed olympics" In response to Reply # 50
I'm glad the right people wound up on the wrong side of this one, but this was an embarrassingly weak showing for everyone involved, on every possible level, right down to having kids il n both cars when they all made those choices.
The fighting itself was spectacular in its it's ineptitude. that's my opinion anyways, but the daughter of the Hispanic couple was going on and on about how badass her parents were and how badly the other two got beatdown, but the truth is they lucked out and got a more washed couple to rub their fat against.
72. "oh it's awful and clumsy " In response to Reply # 70 Sun Jun-16-19 01:12 PM by Mynoriti
but i just really enjoy the shit out of how exited the truck like a nazi lowrider power couple. She winds up getting flattened. And he (after his hold me back act) literally starts pleading after barely being hit. Their kids waiting outside the car like they're the grown ups
On the Mexican side, wifey told him to stay in the car because she has no idea if he can fight because he hasn't been in a fight since before they met in 95, and that big white goof had some inches on him. She on the other hand was in a few more before they met in 95 and misses back in the day. Featherwood never stood a chance
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
63. "when I was 17 learning to drive stick" In response to Reply # 57
I didn't have my clutch/gas coordination down and kept stalling at lights. This guy behind me got pissed off pulled around me, yelled some shit at me and peeled out.
A few seconds later a cop raced past me and pulled him over
For that brief moment in time I thought life is fair and will always work out
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-17-19 06:59 AM
76. "Peeled out = speeding " In response to Reply # 74 Mon Jun-17-19 07:00 AM by legsdiamond
That’s the way I read it.
Running a red light?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
68. "Flashed two fingers with both hands off the wheel?" In response to Reply # 0
If he was going too slow, honk once, wait a beat to see if he accelerates, then go around him. Both you and him apparently took your eyes off the road during this exchange. Even in stop and go traffic, that can lead to a fender bender. What’s the point of giving him the finger? Is he going to magically adopt your driving standards once he sees that?
I might yell out the window what somebody is doing wrong (in my opinion) but there’s no guarantee they’ll listen and it’s usually futile.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79594 posts
Mon Jun-17-19 11:43 AM
78. "Most I do is a “really” look " In response to Reply # 68
but most times they aren’t even going to look your direction.
I guess that’s what the finger waving stuff is for.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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