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legsdiamond
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"Colorado school district changes to 4 days a week"


          

Kids and Teachers love it.. parents, not so much.

Seems like an awesome idea and a great way to recruit better teachers but if you have young children it can be an issue.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/four-day-school-week-teachers-kids-give-it-parents-are-n1009506

BRIGHTON, Colo. — Emma Cable, a junior at Eagle Ridge Academy in this working-class suburb north of Denver, spends her Mondays at volleyball practice and volunteering at a seeing-eye dog organization. Isabelle Jaramillo, a third grader at Northeast Elementary, spends hers at the local Boys & Girls Club, while Angelica Gallegos, a sixth grader at Vikan Middle, and her brother, Paul, a fourth grader at Pennock Elementary, go with their mother to Barr Lake State Park.

Different grades, different activities and one thing in common: None of these students spend that day in class.


That's because their school district, 27J Schools in Adams County, Colorado, switched to a four-day school week at the start of this school year as part of an effort to recruit and retain better teachers. With 28 schools and about 18,000 students, it was the first district in a major metropolitan area and the largest school district in the United States to make the change, though it's been a growing trend among rural districts.

Now, at the end of the experiment's first year, those affected gave it mixed reviews. While kids and teachers relished the regular long weekends, parents did not. Those with younger kids worried about child care, and those with older children worried about the unstructured free time.

Image: Paul and Angelica Gallegos use their Mondays to volunteer at Barr Lake State Park.
Paul, 9, and Angelica Gallegos, 12, use their Mondays to volunteer at Barr Lake State Park.Rachel Woolf / for NBC News
But 27J Schools, whose teachers are the lowest paid in the Denver metro area despite numerous attempts to increase local taxes to fund raises, could still be a model for other major urban and suburban districts facing funding and staffing challenges and looking for creative ways to attract quality educators. So far, the district — which has committed to the shortened schedule for at least another two school years — has seen increased and more promising teacher applicants and lower staff turnover.

“We weren't going to compete in the current system. You just can’t be dead last in funding, last in starting teacher salaries, last in average teacher pay and expect you’ll attract the best folks,” 27J Schools Superintendent Dr. Chris Fiedler told NBC News in a recent interview.

Making a four-day week happen

In most states, including Colorado, minimum instructional requirements for public schools are governed by hours in the classroom, not days. As a result, resource-strapped districts like 27J can cut a day from the school week but still comply with requirements by extending the length of the other four school days.


Under their revised schedule, elementary school days were extended 40 minutes, while middle and high school schedules implemented longer eight-hour days. Mondays were dropped.

“Unlike Friday, Monday is a day for kids and teachers to prepare for the week," Fiedler said.
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“We went into this with idea that teachers are the most important factor in a child’s education,” said 27J Schools Superintendent Dr. Chris Fiedler. “And now we’re finally giving teachers the time to do all the work we have asked them to do. Professional development, class prep, lesson planning.”Rachel Woolf / for NBC News
Teachers in 27J Schools have mandatory professional development one Monday morning a month, while administrators have two. And the new schedule was rolled out with other initiatives administrators felt would help keep students connected to the classroom on their days off, including providing every student with a Chromebook laptop and the launch of a comprehensive digital curriculum.

To address day care concerns for parents of young children, the district expanded its existing offerings to include an all-day option on Monday for $30 per day. 27J also enlisted the Shopneck Boys & Girls Club, in Brighton, to provide all-day Monday care for $20 for families that could afford it, and at no cost for those who could not.

Teachers and parents give it a grade

For single parents like Jessica Lore, who works full-time for a local sales company and has no family in the area, the four-day schedule was not a welcome change.

“I don't like it one bit, and I feel like the district didn’t take seriously my worries about child care,” she told NBC News as she picked up her three children from the Boys & Girls Club on a recent Monday.

If it weren't for that free service — Lore’s kids receive a scholarship because she can't afford to pay — “I’d have been out of a job,” she said.


Even for parents who can afford to have someone at home or who can enlist nearby family to help, the change wasn’t universally well received.


“I’ll be relieved that they’ll be back on a five-day schedule. It’s what pretty much every human on earth works or goes to school for,” he said.


Kids said they enjoyed having more time for play, rest and even homework, while high schoolers tended to pick up extra shifts at their part-time jobs, or volunteer to boost their college prospects.

Alec Alvarez, a third grader at Thimmig Elementary, said he felt the new day was "kind of long" but that it was "worth it" so he could spend his Mondays at his grandmother's house "playing outside."

Zach Felker, a junior at Prairie View High, said he works up to 11 hours on Mondays at a nearby Buffalo Wild Wings to earn money to pay for college.

Teachers, meanwhile, cited having long weekends they can use to prep for the week while still having time for much-needed relaxation.


Ally Hyatt, a seventh-grade science teacher at Vikan Middle, had spent the first four years of her career in Denver Public Schools, and applied for a job last summer specifically in 27J Schools when she learned about their new schedule.

“It was attractive to me because I was essentially working that long of a day in DPS anyway. Here, I could just do it four days week,” she said in an interview in the teachers' lounge at Vikan. “It's been amazing for my personal life, and I love that I have more time to actually plan lessons on Monday and get everything ready for the week.”

That fondness among teachers has, so far, produced for 27J Schools what Fiedler hoped it would. Several school teacher positions that tended to attract just a handful of of applicants have netted more than 100, he said — including "harder vacancies" like special education and secondary math jobs.

He noted applicant quality has been higher, too, with more candidates possessing master's degrees and English as a Second Language certifications. The district’s teacher turnover rate also declined from 21 percent last year to 13 percent this year.


The most meaningful data, however, aren't yet available. State test results and official graduation rates — which will help gauge the new schedule's impact on student performance — won’t be ready until later in the fall.

And while the district says it's received a number of calls from other schools near and far inquiring about what worked and what didn’t, no additional ones will make the change next year.

To help students acclimate to the new schedule every student received a Chromebook laptop computer. At least 560 school districts in 25 states have already trimmed their school weeks to four days, according the National Conference of State Legislatures — although most of the total are in rural areas of Colorado, Oklahoma, Oregon and Montana.Rachel Woolf / for NBC News
As a result, curious superintendents will be at the mercy of a thin and contradictory body of research on the effects of the four-day week. A 2015 study showed improved academic performance for fourth- and fifth-grade students on the four-day week in rural Colorado districts. A 2017 study found that the four-day week had a detrimental effect on reading and math scores of third through eighth graders in rural Oregon districts, with “minority, low-income, and special education students” being more adversely affected.

And a 2018 study found that in rural Colorado districts on the four-day schedule, juvenile crime jumped 20 percent. (Brighton police said they haven’t noticed any uptick in juvenile crime this school year).


Until more evidence is available, even proponents like Fiedler are warning that only districts similar to his own — ones looking to recruit and retain quality educators despite a funding crisis — should give it a go.

“If you have the money, you should pay your teachers,” he said. “But for us, it's a significant differentiating factor that makes us really competitive."



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Way to make things extra stressful for parents
May 28th 2019
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FUCK.THAT.
May 28th 2019
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Solution: 4 day work week for everyone
May 28th 2019
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Yeah, this is the only way something like this can work
May 28th 2019
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      Free child care would help too (edit)
May 28th 2019
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this is a workforce dependent society
May 28th 2019
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I didnt read the article, but is there a public option for that 5th day?
May 28th 2019
7
Looks like possible Business Opportunities to fill in the Gaps
May 28th 2019
8
or...or...getting them jobs in those Colorado grow facilities
May 28th 2019
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I hope more companies move on this direction.
May 28th 2019
10
Today I decided to take a Monday off every month
May 28th 2019
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flipnile
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1. "Way to make things extra stressful for parents"
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Now they gotta find childcare and pay at least one day out of the week. It's not like Colorado adopted a 4-day workweek too.

  

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FLUIDJ
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2. "FUCK.THAT."
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sectachrome86
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Tue May-28-19 12:26 PM

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3. "Solution: 4 day work week for everyone"
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Seriously though I absolutely support the idea of a 4 day week but I'm not sure what else they expected to happen.

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4. "Yeah, this is the only way something like this can work"
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5. "Free child care would help too (edit)"
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Tue May-28-19 12:36 PM by Walleye

          

Though, to be clear, big yes to the four day work week.

It just sort of sucks that, in spite of being poorly compensated for their actual job of teaching kids, teachers aren't really compensated anything for their hugely important role as a cog in our social machinery: free babysitting while parents go to work.

edit: I articulated that really poorly. In order:

1. A four day work week is an awesome idea
2. Free, universal high-quality child care is another really good idea
3. Though "both" is the correct answer for which of these awesome ideas to adopt, I'd be pleased with either if it helped minimize the very real, very important ripple effect of school systems trying to make smart decisions about how to spend their money since, at the moment, they have to worry about incredibly broad consequences.

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Crash Bandacoot
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Tue May-28-19 12:34 PM

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6. "this is a workforce dependent society"
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Tue May-28-19 12:48 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

created by the masters, and as such, you become the holder of heavy
bags. overall, they don't care about your personal needs or who they
toss in to support it...make due or step to the side.

it's devilish and demonic, you can not deny that. i would not want to
raise children here.

  

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Cam
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Tue May-28-19 12:46 PM

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7. "I didnt read the article, but is there a public option for that 5th day?"
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Then for free lunch program participants, this can't be good for them.

  

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8. "Looks like possible Business Opportunities to fill in the Gaps"
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I'm sure some folks are looking at ways to provide structure and responsible Friday Day Camps for youth.


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9. "or...or...getting them jobs in those Colorado grow facilities"
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legsdiamond
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10. "I hope more companies move on this direction. "
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How many people came back from Memorial Day feeling like they wasted a day of production?

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11. "Today I decided to take a Monday off every month"
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I just picked random days and put it on my calendar. I realized that if I didn't put it on the calendar then I would never take any days, and no ones going to care about 1 day a month.

Eventually maybe I'll try and slowly finesse it into Monday off every week...

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