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Lil Rabies
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"Asheville man decks 12 yo black girl outside mall"


  

          

https://www.thestate.com/news/nation-world/national/article224557240.html


She may have been dead wrong, but as this goes viral I am chilled by all of the justification people are using to make his excessive action right. Overkill is usually the result of strong negative emotion, perhaps even hate. Am I saying he wouldn't have hit one of the white girls like that? I am.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

  

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RE: Asheville man decks 12 yo black girl outside mall
Jan 15th 2019
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posted this yesterday...got a lot of views...
Jan 15th 2019
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My bad. didnt see it
Jan 15th 2019
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First off what did he do to piss them all off
Jan 15th 2019
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This dude is completely wrong. COMPLETELY
Jan 15th 2019
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Everybody in that video is dead wrong...is the only correct reaction
Jan 15th 2019
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It’s ultimately the responsibility of the adult to adult
Jan 15th 2019
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RE: unless your life is in mortal danger
Jan 15th 2019
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Black man over the age of 18 world
Jan 15th 2019
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      So I'm suppose to wait until I'm dead...to defend myself...?
Jan 15th 2019
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           Punching someone in the face can easily be deadly force
Jan 15th 2019
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           I don’t understand what you’re trying to get at
Jan 15th 2019
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                Read the 'reply_to' wrong, but yeah
Jan 15th 2019
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                     Is bentagin your alias?
Jan 15th 2019
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                          Nah, '8-bit' is my alias. Page was loading so it took a sec to move over
Jan 15th 2019
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^^yup.
Jan 15th 2019
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^
Jan 15th 2019
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This makes so much more sense that this is a white man.
Jul 18th 2021
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damn he clocked shorty like she was a grown man smh...wow.
Jan 15th 2019
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Terrible white people are going to do terrible white people things..
Jan 15th 2019
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First thing I thought of was my daughtet
Jan 15th 2019
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if a group of girls jump your jit, then your wife, then surround you...
Jan 15th 2019
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Shield my fam, walk in a straight line to my car and leave ... like an a...
Jan 15th 2019
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Umm... ok.
Jan 15th 2019
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      You’ve never muscled your way through a crowd?
Jan 15th 2019
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           A crowd trying to get at me and mine? Not without mushing a few folks
Jan 15th 2019
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His daughter was being jumped?
Jan 15th 2019
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a LOT of internet commenters want to punch 12 year old kids
Jan 15th 2019
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not that it justifies the actions, but why were the girls all up on him?
Jan 15th 2019
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Because kids are dumb and groupthink is an oxymoron.
Jan 15th 2019
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They had jumped his daughter. They confronted the teens, they jumped
Jan 15th 2019
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      hmmm. that's tricky.
Jan 15th 2019
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      oh well in that case i aint mad at him
Jan 15th 2019
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           You should be. Who the fk fights 11 year olds?
Jan 15th 2019
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                Right? I can understand WANTING to knock her iut
Jan 16th 2019
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Why the hell is she running up on a grown ass man like that?
Jan 15th 2019
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Because she’s a kid, and kids are dumb
Jan 15th 2019
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      He should be charged.. and she should charge it to the game
Jan 15th 2019
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He's wrong. Lock him up.
Jan 15th 2019
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they saw white and felt they would/could punk
Jan 15th 2019
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When People Going To Learn There Is No Such Thing As A Fair Fight
Jan 16th 2019
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Exactly.
Jul 18th 2021
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So many are looking for justifiable reasons to harm women and kids
Jan 16th 2019
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Why they running and screaming like she got shot tho?
Jan 16th 2019
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Kids nowadays man....
Jan 16th 2019
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lol
Jan 16th 2019
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Stop making sense up in here
Jan 16th 2019
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BINGO
Jan 16th 2019
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All of this.
Jan 16th 2019
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Basically
Jan 16th 2019
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And you dumbasses are co-signing this bullshit.
Jan 16th 2019
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Nah. He isn’t wrong.
Jan 16th 2019
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MOST kids is not debatable. It's objectively false.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Howboutdis: "An unprecedented number of youth don't GAFAA in 2019"
Jan 16th 2019
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      Prove it, Hilary.
Jan 16th 2019
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      You lived through the 80s and 90s you know that’s not true
Jan 16th 2019
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           yup.
Jan 16th 2019
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                they don't hear you. too busy telling someone to get off their lawn
Jan 16th 2019
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      That’s cool. Glad you aren’t afraid of these youth
Jan 16th 2019
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           Black Women vs a 6’5 white mam who stepped into a situation that
Jan 16th 2019
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           White guy should definitely go to jail
Jan 16th 2019
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           Again, of all the students they have worked with in their careers
Jan 16th 2019
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                It’s not about how many. It’s he fact that these kids know teachers
Jan 16th 2019
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                     When you were a middle school or high school student
Jan 16th 2019
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                          I can't speak for legs
Jan 16th 2019
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                               Lol yes. That is exactly my point.
Jan 16th 2019
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Where do you live?
Jan 16th 2019
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      Show me the stats. You don't get to make baseless claims
Jan 16th 2019
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      THIS.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Dawg, you know most of these folks don't leave the house
Jan 16th 2019
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           That’s a lot of words to say kids scare you
Jan 16th 2019
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           My guy, your sig is 4 gamer tags
Jan 16th 2019
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                And?
Jan 16th 2019
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                     And: that was some pot calling the kettle black ass shit to say.
Jan 16th 2019
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                          THISTHISTHISTHIS
Jan 16th 2019
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Shorter: you would’ve done the same thing
Jan 16th 2019
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They were saying the exact same thing 25-30 years ago
Jan 16th 2019
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      Upthread they’re saying his kid got jumped
Jan 16th 2019
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That wasn’t even his wife and kid
Jan 16th 2019
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Vigilante or doing what most men should do when they see KIDS acting an....
Jan 16th 2019
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      I see black girls mad at a white women I’m team black girls
Jan 16th 2019
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           Not disputing your approach but I've seen that same approach go left...
Jan 16th 2019
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                If they not good you leave. I’m not trying to be nobody’s parent.
Jan 16th 2019
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                     Did he make it worse? The little girl they were targeting got home safe
Jan 16th 2019
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                          White Thursday is tomorrow and this is GD not Sports
Jan 16th 2019
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                               In all walks of life, not just sports, im teaching my kids if they
Jan 16th 2019
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                                    All lives matter I guess.
Jan 16th 2019
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                                         You're flailing now
Jan 16th 2019
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                                         Don't you sound stupid
Jan 16th 2019
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                                         lol. Not at all. I didn’t start posting yesterday and neither did he
Jan 16th 2019
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                                              Not even close to my ''shtick'' lol wtf
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                   Mostly white from Boston
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                        You lack convincing points on actual topics today huh
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                             RE: You lack convincing points on actual topics today huh
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                             Being a black American shapes my world view
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                                  At least you own the fact that you refuse to be objective. Thats cool
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                                       People will bypass this exchange
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                                            RE: People will bypass this exchange
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                                         hey man
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                                              lol
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                   you're so angry
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                                                        I think you logged into your wrong account.
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                             who am i again?
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                                  No clue. I do say mean shit at times
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                                                                       it's cool
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                                       have you followed any of the johns hopkins
Jan 16th 2019
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Bell - 6’5 - 250lbs
Jan 16th 2019
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jesus, why would she even step back in his face with her hands up?
Jan 16th 2019
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Your end qualifier doesn’t absolve you.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Absolve me, papa!
Jan 16th 2019
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           lol. No disrespect, *says disrespectful shit*
Jan 16th 2019
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                Yo my man, you never had a teenager act stupid with you
Jan 16th 2019
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                     I avoid kids like the plague, so no
Jan 16th 2019
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                     For the most part I have the same experience
Jan 16th 2019
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                     RE: Yo my man, you never had a teenager act stupid with you
Jan 16th 2019
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                          well it was 0 for me until recently
Jan 16th 2019
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                               EVERYBODY wants A fight but nobody wants TO fight
Jan 16th 2019
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                                    oh yeah this is a problem
Jan 16th 2019
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                                         I want to say I’d step in for an old person
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                                              at the bottom of the subway stairs like 'help i went shopping
Jan 16th 2019
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                                                   This was all a solid ass exchange
Jan 16th 2019
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exactly....these people are bugging.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Median weight of an 11 year old girl is about 80lbs
Jan 16th 2019
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           That guy realistically could've thrown the kid for distance one-handed.....
Jan 16th 2019
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If his concern was the white woman and child, all he had to do was
Jan 16th 2019
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When i was in middle-school, adults fought back and we respected it
Jan 16th 2019
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In each of those instances the child was already attacking.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Thet weren't running around, they were very clearly
Jan 16th 2019
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           That’s not his family. And he stepped into the middle of them.
Jan 16th 2019
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                Right. And even if it was his family, he's big enough that he can
Jan 16th 2019
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                Bullshit. You act like size makes him invincible vs 20 kids
Jan 16th 2019
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                     Literally little girls. Little girls.
Jan 16th 2019
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                          20 middle-school girls are plenty capable of fucking up 1 man
Jan 16th 2019
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                               What about 8 or fewer? Same math?
Jan 16th 2019
                               8 vs 1? Easily, u kidding?
Jan 16th 2019
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                               None of them had laid a hand on anyone yet, though.
Jan 16th 2019
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                                    He'd already been pushed and they weren't letting them leave.
Jan 16th 2019
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                                         Pretty much.
Jul 18th 2021
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                Ok so it was someone
Jan 16th 2019
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                     Feast, mob, ... why do you hang out on the internet with Black folks?
Jan 16th 2019
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                          Lost on logic so now you reach for fake dog whistles huh?
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                               ^hollers
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                                    ^ lost
Jan 16th 2019
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guess I'm the only one who laughed a little?
Jan 16th 2019
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a LOT of internet commenters want to punch 12 year old kids
Jan 16th 2019
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Or maybe they just dont want a world where 12 yo kids have a
Jan 16th 2019
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Are you including me in that group? Lol
Jan 16th 2019
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      So you read through the comments section
Jan 16th 2019
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i laughed.
Jan 16th 2019
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Kenny Burns' take...
Jan 16th 2019
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Anyone who’s mans with shaun king is immediately suspect
Jan 16th 2019
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Any1 who thinks he wouldn't have done thst if it was a mob of white girl...
Jan 16th 2019
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More often. Not just as much. Exceedingly more
Jan 16th 2019
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      I wont argue with that at all. Absolutely
Jan 16th 2019
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Stand Your Ground - North Carolina
Jan 16th 2019
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kenny burns got a new hustle for every era lol.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Not sure if he's an activist but this is an excerpt from his Revolt show...
Jan 16th 2019
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           yeah dude been around since amaretto sours and first fridays lol.
Jan 16th 2019
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                The mid 90’s??
Jan 16th 2019
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                     Yup! Mid-90s...
Jan 17th 2019
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I am not even sure folks are truly disagreeing in this post.
Jan 16th 2019
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Who deserves empathy is my beef
Jan 16th 2019
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As a parent, I process it by imagining if it were my kid.
Jan 16th 2019
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      ^all this
Jan 17th 2019
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Based on the outcome, it clearly was a bad idea to do that
Jan 16th 2019
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I'm not going to say there's NOTHING an 11 year old can do to warrant
Jan 16th 2019
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If an 11 year old girl rushed a 6'5" man like that
Jan 16th 2019
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i had to punch a black teenage girl in the face before.
Jan 16th 2019
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You didn’t have a bat?
Jan 16th 2019
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You did the right thing.
Jan 16th 2019
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      Shield his fam, walk in a straight line to my car and leave...
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           I whiffed on that one lol
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           ..
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                Oh ok lol
Jan 16th 2019
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           But i agree thats obviously the preferred outcome.
Jan 16th 2019
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           Shit nigga i don't
Jan 16th 2019
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                He created the heated moment
Jan 16th 2019
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                RE: Shit nigga i don't
Jan 16th 2019
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           You could just say you’re ho made and have bad conflict resolution ski...
Jan 16th 2019
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                Well ho ass human shield ass nigga...
Jan 16th 2019
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                     Buy a better data plan and maybe a nine second video won’t cost you
Jan 16th 2019
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                          lol oh word?
Jan 16th 2019
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                               Good one sparky. I’m sure when your supervisor catches you with
Jan 16th 2019
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                               Nigga responding like he JUST got a job lol
Jan 16th 2019
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                                    You on the mop this week. Keep it up you’ll get to the fries.
Jan 16th 2019
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                               Mans up in here talking about forming Spartan shields and shit
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                                    I’m sorry a little girl hurt you once
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                                    Don't be mad, UPS is hiring
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                                         ... I’m employed.
Jan 16th 2019
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                                    LOL maybe he can fit that girl and mom in the ball too? He's big
Jan 16th 2019
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he's obv more wrong, and it's not like he was trapped...
Jan 16th 2019
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I'd be inclined to agree if he wasn't protecting someone else
Jan 16th 2019
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would probably need to know more of the back story
Jan 16th 2019
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      RE: would probably need to know more of the back story
Jan 16th 2019
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           if that's the case, pre-punch there's nothing wrong with what he did
Jan 16th 2019
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                How much do you trust the word of a lawyer whose client punched a child
Jan 16th 2019
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                     that's why i said if that's the case
Jan 16th 2019
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He stepped to them. Young showed heart
Jan 16th 2019
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      haha
Jan 16th 2019
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Lotta people scared of girls who can't make a layup on a 10 foot rim yet
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LOL
Jan 17th 2019
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So if your preteen kid comes at me like that, can I knock them out cold?...
Jan 16th 2019
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it wasnt teenage girls but
Jan 16th 2019
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and serious question: should kids be barking at adults?
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YUP YUP YUP!
Jan 17th 2019
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I would really hope my 11 year daughter wouldnt be dumb enough to run up
Jan 16th 2019
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Most people don’t think it’s OK
Jan 17th 2019
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      Serious question
Jan 17th 2019
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           there's nothing in that video to indicate he was keeping her there
Jan 17th 2019
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           What does detaining or restraining have to do with my question
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                you're going on about fight or flight and she felt threatened
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                     They didn’t surround him. He stepped into the middle of them
Jan 17th 2019
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                          cute semantics and all but I'm not impying he's trapped
Jan 17th 2019
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                               Walking away is the flight response you gooftroop
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                                    Lol ok you got me there
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           I think the expectation is that the junior person respects the authority
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           But to my point, that’s an appeal to logic
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                I totally get what you are saying. I think that's problematic
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                     And I don’t have an answer for why this aspect bothers me so much
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                          And this wasn’t my point yesterday.
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                               I didn't really fully get your point until post 202
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                                    The understanding that consequences disproportionally affect black peopl...
Jan 18th 2019
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           You keep ignoring people saying dude was dead wrong
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                I don’t. I validated it in fact.
Jan 17th 2019
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                And more to my point what I’m saying is what she SHOULD have done
Jan 17th 2019
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***not touching this just reading the comments***
Jan 18th 2019
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MEAT
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1. "RE: Asheville man decks 12 yo black girl outside mall"
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In one 29-second video, a man is seen surrounded by a group of teens, one of whom appears to shove him from the back. The man begins to argue with one of the youths ....

I stopped there.

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2. "posted this yesterday...got a lot of views..."
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but, I guess no one cared enough to reply. I saw people saying that was his wife and kid and he felt like they were cornered. He pushed her away once...she comes back. The punch was 5 much. Feel like he could have pushed her again. Man, it's all so shitty. What the hell started that, I wonder.

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Lil Rabies
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Tue Jan-15-19 02:13 PM

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6. "My bad. didnt see it"
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I looked for the post because I mainly lurk.

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

  

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sectachrome86
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Tue Jan-15-19 01:57 PM

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3. "First off what did he do to piss them all off"
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Second, just walk away.

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flipnile
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4. "This dude is completely wrong. COMPLETELY"
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Tue Jan-15-19 02:01 PM by flipnile

          

Here's a real-life example of the "act like a man, get treated like one" type of dudes.

Fucking loser.

And yeah, I don't think he'd have hit a little white girl like that.

And yeah, I'd think the same about him no matter what ethnicity or age of woman he hit. Over a fucking push?

  

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bentagain
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5. "Everybody in that video is dead wrong...is the only correct reaction"
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I know its hard not to choose a side with whomever you identify with

But objectively...everybody in that video fucked up.

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7. "It’s ultimately the responsibility of the adult to adult"
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If a group of kids are in a street, they shouldn’t be, but if you then hit them with a car you’re wrong ... adult rules

If a 14 year old shows up to your concert and you take her back stage, and eventually forge documents to marry her ... you’re wrong ... adult rules

If a group of kids are antagonizing you and you stay and argue ... you’re wrong ... adult rules.


That doesn’t make the kids right. But there’s a hierarchy to right and wrong between kids and adults that we’ve established as a society ... and that hierarchy is that, unless your life is in mortal danger caused by the kids ... you are to be the more responsible party at all times, without exception

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9. "RE: unless your life is in mortal danger"
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LOL...okay

Where do you live?

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10. "Black man over the age of 18 world"
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Where every decision you make and even sone of the ones you don’t has the potential to ruin you for life

But if the question is about being in mortal danger, first time I had to duck from a drive by I was 10, first time I had a gun put in my face I was 15
Let’s not pretend that kids aren’t capable of murder

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11. "So I'm suppose to wait until I'm dead...to defend myself...?"
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I wasn't questioning the idea that kids are capable of murder

I'm questioning the idea of waiting to find out

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12. "Punching someone in the face can easily be deadly force"
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Tue Jan-15-19 02:45 PM by flipnile

          

https://6abc.com/man-dies-after-being-punched-in-south-philadelphia-park/5023731/
https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/NYC-Punch-Death-Irish-Man-NYC-New-York-501162591.html


Past middle school, punches are very real, not some movie shit where folks can laugh it off. And this was a large human throwing that punch against a much smaller and younger human.

Yeah, those girls were wrong. But he's a grown man and should have conducted himself like one. Without a weapon, those girls were of very little threat to him.

  

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13. "I don’t understand what you’re trying to get at"
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Tue Jan-15-19 02:47 PM by MEAT

  

          

Because what I’m not saying is you should only hit/push/a kid after they’ve pulled the gun

What I am saying is that part of adulthood is recognizing an escalating situation and finding ways to de-escalate them, and that interactions between two adults can and often does lead to physical confrontations because that’s a real option ... but that with children, unless the situation is approaching something mortality threatening ... that as an adult, it’s your responsibility to remove yourself from the situation.

The timeline is the least important thing that I’m saying, it’s having the wherewithal to change the sitatuion to minimize the bad that is core to adulthood.

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14. "Read the 'reply_to' wrong, but yeah"
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Tue Jan-15-19 02:48 PM by flipnile

          

Not how an adult is supposed to handle that situation.

  

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MEAT
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15. "Is bentagin your alias?"
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17. "Nah, '8-bit' is my alias. Page was loading so it took a sec to move over"
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Those little lines to the left of the reply. Looked like it was under mine at first.

  

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34. "^^yup."
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8. "^"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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223. "This makes so much more sense that this is a white man. "
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16. "damn he clocked shorty like she was a grown man smh...wow."
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18. "Terrible white people are going to do terrible white people things.."
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So I don't expend a lot of energy being shocked that a white dude would do that.


I am going to get roast for this but I can't help but focus on hoping that my daughter would not think to try and square up with an adult you know don't gives a fuk about you.


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23. "First thing I thought of was my daughtet"
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Hope she never gets so hyped up by a crowd that she tries to fight some racist POS.

He should do jail time.

I would find him on my own if that was my daughter

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19. "if a group of girls jump your jit, then your wife, then surround you..."
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21. "Shield my fam, walk in a straight line to my car and leave ... like an a..."
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25. "Umm... ok. "
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27. "You’ve never muscled your way through a crowd?"
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29. "A crowd trying to get at me and mine? Not without mushing a few folks"
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36. "His daughter was being jumped?"
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20. "a LOT of internet commenters want to punch 12 year old kids"
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a lot

  

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22. "not that it justifies the actions, but why were the girls all up on him?"
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i mean, he must have done something to get their attention, right?

  

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24. "Because kids are dumb and groupthink is an oxymoron. "
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Like that really should factor into how people respond/react to kids in any situation.
Kids are dumb. The more of them together the dumber they act.

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32. "They had jumped his daughter. They confronted the teens, they jumped "
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his wife, then they was bout to jump him.

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33. "hmmm. that's tricky. "
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35. "oh well in that case i aint mad at him"
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37. "You should be. Who the fk fights 11 year olds?"
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They're 11. They beat up your daughter? That doesn't mean you punch them. Get your family out of there, call the cops. Don't square up with 11 year olds. You will go to prison. The people in prison who find out you're in jail for punching an 11 year old will probably beat you and rape you on a regular basis.

I don't even fight adults any more, why the fk would I fight an 11 year old? SMH.

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47. "Right? I can understand WANTING to knock her iut"
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but you don’t do it.

Dude is supposed to Game of Thrones Giant his way thru the crowd

Closed fist on a 12 year old? C’mon

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26. "Why the hell is she running up on a grown ass man like that?"
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28. "Because she’s a kid, and kids are dumb "
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How dumb? In my early 30s I dated a similar early 30s woman that was convinced in a dire situation that she could out muscle me
Said woman asked me to lay on top of her to prove it to both of us
I am not a big guy btw
When said woman couldn’t move me, and I then let her know that I wasn’t even pushing back against her she was shocked
Here was this adult, fully convinced of her capacity for “beer muscles” and had a cone to Jesus moment in our 30s
This kid in this video got hers.

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30. "He should be charged.. and she should charge it to the game"
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Don’t try to fight in a different weight class and keep your hands up.

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31. "He's wrong. Lock him up."
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38. "they saw white and felt they would/could punk"
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He saw black and wanted to hit hard

  

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39. "When People Going To Learn There Is No Such Thing As A Fair Fight"
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...unless, UNLESS, you're in a ring and getting paid to fight, other than that, in a street fight or argument, everything if game, you start hitting someone, all things a go, if you or they start shooting, that means it's time to run for cover.

Boy or girl, don't hit no one then the other party shouldn't either but if it leads to hitting someone they deserve what they get, you run up on someone like you about to box, then you getting hit knocked out is the universe way of saying "maybe you shouldn't have acted like you was ready to start a fight".

In the video, she got what she got, now if that was an adult woman who punched out a teen girl, it makes no difference, the teen girl pushed him, then he pushed her, then she came at him like she was about to throw punches and got punched first, bam that's all her idea to start shit.

Some people need to know your lane, don't start something thinking somebody is coming to your rescue, you start it, be damn sure you think "you" (not your friends, or family member, or the other party's friend) can end it without you dying or getting hurt in the process.


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224. "Exactly. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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40. "So many are looking for justifiable reasons to harm women and kids"
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Particularly our women and children.

Dude is morally wrong but criminally will depend on who can tell the most believable story on how the situation played out.

All I know is if my daughter was in that group, she isn’t going to be rolling with them anymore. The justice system isn’t fair so don’t be out there inviting smoke that someone might be able to justify to a jury of their peers that’s eager to punish you.

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41. "Why they running and screaming like she got shot tho?"
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42. "Kids nowadays man...."
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I don't condone any Adult assaulting a child under any circumstances. HOWEVER, most kids nowadays are fearless and have no respect for Adults or elders for that matter. It's tough to judge who was right or wrong in this video because setting aside the story, we don't SEE what led up to this. But its clear that these idiots weren't expecting an adult to fire back at them. Because the mentality is -- he's an adult, and he ain't gonna do shit no matter what I say or do to him or his family. I can push him -- he won't do shit. I can't insult him -- he wont' do shit. I can hit him -- he wont' do shit. And in this instance, I'm pretty sure those girls didn't think he would do shit because he was white. there comes a time when you have to defend yourself and your family at all costs. Had it just been the girl by herself, he would've walked away with his family and ignored her. But this was a mob of young girls, who surrounded him and his family, gassing each other up to fight them. That punch was a message. Just as if it was a gun being fired in the air. Back up or the rest of y'all will get it too. And what happened? Those kids scattered and found out what happens when you poke the bear. Anyone who applauds what he did is wrong. It's sad to see these kids behave without any conscious or respect. But I understand why he did it. Kids need to know that there's consequences to your actions. Just as this guy learned that there's consequences to his.

  

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43. "lol"
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44. "Stop making sense up in here"
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45. "BINGO"
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46. "All of this."
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48. "Basically"
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49. "And you dumbasses are co-signing this bullshit."
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MOST kids. Get the entire fuck outta here with MOST kids.
Knocking a 12 year old out-cold is a "message." Get the entire fuck outta here. No, asshole, it's not a message. It's fucking assault of a child. No kid pushed him. No kid hit him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQEopQNxqi4

It's so fucking stupid the way adults talk about youth. The EXACT same way the adults talked about you when you were young. The EXACT same way that the generation older than them talked about them. They have no respect, they don't care about anything -- man shut the fuck up.


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52. "Nah. He isn’t wrong. "
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Of course MOST kids is debatable but there are a lot of kids out here not giving a fuck. I have a bunch of family members who teach and all of them have multiple stories of being scared shitless because these kids have no fear of adults even restraining them when they get out of hand.

Hell, there was a parent of a child who followed a teacher after a conference and hit her with a brick while she was sitting in traffic.

When that Black teacher went off on the kid talking shit in class folks weren’t really jumping up to defend the kid.

It’s an ugly video and he is certainly wrong for swinging.

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54. "MOST kids is not debatable. It's objectively false."
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there have always been kids out here "not giving a fuck"
25 years ago, they were calling them super-predators.
That's cool that you have teachers in your fam who have stories. Of all the kids they've worked with, what would you suppose it the percentage that have "scared them shitless"? I've been working with youth for 20 years, and you know how many times I've been remotely "scared"? One time.

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55. "Howboutdis: "An unprecedented number of youth don't GAFAA in 2019""
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>there have always been kids out here "not giving a fuck"
>25 years ago, they were calling them super-predators.
>That's cool that you have teachers in your fam who have
>stories. Of all the kids they've worked with, what would you
>suppose it the percentage that have "scared them shitless"?
>I've been working with youth for 20 years, and you know how
>many times I've been remotely "scared"? One time.


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56. "Prove it, Hilary."
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Old people have been saying the exact same shit about youth for all of existence.

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57. "You lived through the 80s and 90s you know that’s not true"
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Same as police killings, people aren’t all that different from before, things are actually less violent ... but unfiltered videos and immediate sharing has people thinking the world is suddenly on fire

Things have always been ablaze.

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80. "yup."
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kids are the same as what we were growing up. they have different access, which makes their environments different. we'd be just like today's youth if internet and mobile phones were available during our childhoods.

the difference is us. we've grown up and the perspectives have changed from free wheeling kids to 'responsible' adults with kids of our own. we're in self-preservation/protect mode.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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113. "they don't hear you. too busy telling someone to get off their lawn"
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60. "That’s cool. Glad you aren’t afraid of these youth"
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but plenty of Black women who teach in these school systems aren’t afraid to admit they are afraid when teenagers threaten them with violence.



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63. "Black Women vs a 6’5 white mam who stepped into a situation that"
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Didn’t concern him

Apples and Tetris really

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65. "White guy should definitely go to jail"
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But probably won't for various reasons. One of which (besides the obvious) is this footage.

  

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73. "Again, of all the students they have worked with in their careers"
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How many would you suppose have scared them shitless. A percentage. 25%? 50%? More?

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98. "It’s not about how many. It’s he fact that these kids know teachers "
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can’t touch them so they have the ability to act a fool if they choose and there is nothing you can do about it besides yell, remove yourself from the room or call a security guard.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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109. "When you were a middle school or high school student "
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Did you know that the teachers couldn't touch you?

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153. "I can't speak for legs"
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but fam plenty of kids know teachers can't do shit. As evidenced by how they act around their parents vs how they act in school. Or how they act around their peers vs how they act in school.

  

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164. "Lol yes. That is exactly my point."
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When I was in middle school, I knew teachers couldn't touch me. You knew that. I would guess that Legs knew the same. Outside of the places where corporal punishment was still allowed, students have known for decades that teachers couldn't touch them. Which makes the kids today unremarkable in that regard.

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68. "Where do you live?"
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City
Region
State

Cuz what you talking ain't representative of what others are seeing where they live.

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72. "Show me the stats. You don't get to make baseless claims"
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And, adding to that, no one said "what they're seeing where they live." One person commented on what other people in their family see. Which isn't indicative of much, really.

Show me ANYTHING that says "most kids..." show me ANYTHING that shows "an unprecedented amount of youth..." Like MEAT said, I'm assuming you lived through the 80s and 90s when shit was MUCH worse than it is by almost every metric.

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123. "THIS."
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89. "Dawg, you know most of these folks don't leave the house"
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And when they do they don't interact with people.

You got folks on here questioning if they should say "ay, you good?" to someone they hear violently throwing up.

Then get on here and act like some of these kids ain't lost their damn mind. You and I know that some of (not all, but some) are wild as fuck and dangerous also. You from Baltimore also so you know the deal. You gotta remember where you post at and how some of these folks don't really know reality. I understand exactly what dude was trying to say.

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92. "That’s a lot of words to say kids scare you "
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111. "My guy, your sig is 4 gamer tags"
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and you're talking about how folks don't leave the house or interact with people. Your sig is fucking screaming "I don't leave the house or interact with people"

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126. "And?"
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Sure I play games.

And I do shit outdoors and go places.

And I see shit go down.

And I lived in a fucked up area niggas was out there getting killed all the time.

You took the dudes post who said that yes the adult was wrong, but kids also act a damn fool also, and ran with it because you didn't want any blame on the kids at all, which is expected around here to be honest. I honestly think your reply to him was exaggerated, probably because you were so upset at ol dude throwing the punch you decided to focus on just that.

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129. "And: that was some pot calling the kettle black ass shit to say."
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Given what your sig is screaming.
Now point out where I said I "didn't want any blame on the kids."
I'll wait.
He said "most kids these fearless and have no respect for adults"
That is a lie. Plain and simple. It's very much in-line with Hilary's super-predator comments. It's very much in-line with the on-going pattern of adults thinking/saying that the kids are out of control which that goes back generations. And it is bullshit. The kids have different things at their disposal and their environments are somewhat different, but they are ultimately not very different than the generation which preceded them. Which is not much different than that which preceded them. People conveniently like to forget what the adults said about their generation when they were adolescents -- it's the exact same shit.
People are also incredibly easily swayed by the things "tough-on-crime (often racist) politicians say, easily swayed by how much we are bombarded with videos and social media posts that show the worst in society, so much so that they ignore the fucking facts which show that violence and crime have decreased dramatically from the 80s and 90s, and that that crime and violence was in response to the social/economic conditions of the time.
Is what those kids did wrong? Yeah. But they're fucking kids. The hallmarks of being kids are things like recklessness and naiveté. He's a fucking grown ass man. We hold them to different standards. Grown ass men do not get to punch 12 year old girls like that.

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130. "THISTHISTHISTHIS"
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50. "Shorter: you would’ve done the same thing "
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And everyone co-signing you would too

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51. "They were saying the exact same thing 25-30 years ago"
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While it’s true that it’s incredibly dumb and naive of a kid to run up on a grown man assuming nothing will happen, that’s because some grown men ARE crazy enough to punch a kid in the face. So yeah, that lesson should be learned. Anyone could be crazy.

The only way that punch is justified is if she’s got a knife.

I’m curious what the backstory is here. I’d strongly bet that he played a role in it getting to that level.

  

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53. "Upthread they’re saying his kid got jumped"
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But that’s a little kid. Like three years younger. So I doubt that very much.

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58. "That wasn’t even his wife and kid"
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Y’all fucking goofballs

“Bell’s attorney, Andy Banzhoff, said Bell was trying to help a woman who was being harassed by the group of girls.”


White man tried to play vigalnete hero and y’all team white man

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66. "Vigilante or doing what most men should do when they see KIDS acting an...."
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ass by terrifying other people?

We live in a f'ed up and somewhat confusing world right now.

Kids testing adults like they're equals.
Adults knocking kids the fugg out for testing them.

It's a tough decision to make as an adult.

Right now in Baltimore, I stay my tail in the house because I know my mouth and my desire to see people do better could lead me into trouble.

I don't like hearing kids cussin' in front of adults but you can't tell these young folks nothing. Stepping into the ruckus can get one's cap split to the white meat.

To avoid it all, I just stay away from where the shits could be going down. The so-called adults here complain about the riff-raff and then complained more when curfews/restrictions get put into place to keep these lil triflin mofos out of the way.

The best mall in the area has a very restrictive policy on kids being in the mall after a certain time without adult supervision. I go in the early morning or after their imposed curfew which adults complained about.

So, dude hitting that lil girl was excessive. I also understand that we can't expect people to treat our kids like kids if the kids are tryna be an adult's equal. I just pray that I did the best job teaching my children to be respectable and respectful when out in them streets. I've not had any issues with them yet and I don't plan to since they're young adults but one never knows.

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69. " I see black girls mad at a white women I’m team black girls"
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But I’m not coming in barking like the cops
I’m walking up and asking them if they ok. “Y’all good?” Very easy to say
“Break it up!” = escalation.

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74. "Not disputing your approach but I've seen that same approach go left..."
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>RE: I see black girls mad at a white women I’m team black girls
>But I’m not coming in barking like the cops
>I’m walking up and asking them if they ok. “Y’all
>good?” Very easy to say
>“Break it up!” = escalation.
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And it wasn't pretty once it went left.

Your approach, IMO, is how it should be when an adult steps in to help calm a situation down. In some places though, them kids ain't tryna hear or deal with ANY approach.

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76. "If they not good you leave. I’m not trying to be nobody’s parent. "
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Except my kid.
In any conflict you have to give someone an out. The kids were committed to escalating.
The man stepped in and continued to escalate the problem
Now two parties, a stranger, and a small collective were both left without an out

My point isn’t that they’re right. Not at all. But that there are two separate situations being observed here that are tied to each other. There’s kids being dumb collectively angry. And then a large strange man creating more conflict that didn’t have anything to do with him

The adult in the situation took a bad situation and made it worse, there’s zero reason to empathize with his actions like many here are doing. Because his actions are the end result of him making bad decisions. Every step of the way he could e handled the situation better. And he didn’t. So because y’all can imagine a situation where you’d punch a child ... cool. But that’s not what he did. He created a situation that led to him deciding to punch a child.

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93. "Did he make it worse? The little girl they were targeting got home safe"
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99. "White Thursday is tomorrow and this is GD not Sports"
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105. "In all walks of life, not just sports, im teaching my kids if they"
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surround, bully, or threaten someone, and get hurt doing it, its their fault.

Bullying ppl is not something I'll ever tolerate in my kids. Bullies i grew up around were typically the kids whose parents give them a pass. If that happened to my daughter, for trying to corner a little girl and her Mom, im gonna tend to her wounds, but send apologies to the other girl and Mom and tell them im glad they're ok. And my daughter will have to come with me to put that card in the mail. And she's licking the envelope cuz i hate that shit.

  

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108. "All lives matter I guess. "
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I imagine it’s real tough to raise white kids in America
I can’t even fathom your struggle.

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121. "You're flailing now"
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127. "Don't you sound stupid"
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taking it there when he never did

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128. "lol. Not at all. I didn’t start posting yesterday and neither did he"
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But please, let your “falling down” ass hero walk you across LA and straight into the idiot ocean that y’all belong in.

But if you don’t follow usernames. That posters entire schtick is stepping into conversations where race is involved and only lightly relating to the incident while managing to strip it of any racial merits.
It’s a thing. He does it all the time.

In this conversation in which a 6’5 white man interjects himself to “defend” a white woman against a small grouping of black teenaged girls he’s managed to use the terms mob, inflate the number by at least double, chastise the behavior of the kids, and find common understanding with the assaulter. It’s laughable that anyone would take him at face value. But here we are.

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133. "Not even close to my ''shtick'' lol wtf"
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Clearly that's all you pay attention to tho.

  

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134. "Mostly white from Boston"
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135. "You lack convincing points on actual topics today huh"
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137. "RE: You lack convincing points on actual topics today huh"
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You: I’m not what you think I am
Me: mostly white from Boston

Is that incorrect?
Based on the constructs of the English language is that not a sufficient response?

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140. "Being a black American shapes my world view"
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I own that
Stripping human interactions of context and down to their core isn’t a net positive, it’s a telling sign of a limited capacity to relate to others
Anytime someone has called you on this very point you’ve been quick to point to your work or experiences, you’re great at co-opting the less fortunate in those cases, but you display limited abilities to actually relate.

So my interactions with you start from there. I simply refuse to actually interact with you as an honest poster.

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143. "At least you own the fact that you refuse to be objective. Thats cool"
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145. "People will bypass this exchange "
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But you now know exactly where I stand with you, and you can spin it to whatever degree makes you comfortable without introspecting.

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149. "RE: People will bypass this exchange "
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Not really. Dont take it too personal, there's just very few usernames that i keep up with. I prefer to read comments objectively as is than try to establish some half-cocked projection of who i think they are as people and what they "really mean"

  

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180. "hey man"
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try treating people with more respect and maybe someone will hire you. you don't seem like you'd be a great coworker. i'm thinking of my coworker and her 9 year old daughter and all the struggles they've been through. yes, they are white. you don't have a monopoly on pain. spread some love.

  

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181. "lol"
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182. "you're so angry"
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you complain about your job search after having insulted me while i was in the same boat. i don't get it man. good luck. don't go postal.

  

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183. "I think you logged into your wrong account. "
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184. "who am i again?"
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denny? dennehy? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqrtoFWglMY

  

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185. "No clue. I do say mean shit at times"
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I’ll own that, but I’m not out here clowning people for not having jobs
Are you the guy that was talking about mushrooms?

Update. Yes you are
Lol.

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186. "it's cool"
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"THIS is the guy y’all have been “debating” as a serious person.

A motherfucker that’s so removed from existential danger that he’s taken to quitting his job and sitting around eating mushrooms"

clairvoyant assumptions tend to derail things online. stick to the merits of the arguments and understand there are a lot of unknowns when it comes to the person on the other end of an anonymous internet exchange. nice thing about the anonymity is end of the day it's no skin off my back. best of luck.

  

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187. "have you followed any of the johns hopkins"
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psilocybin research?

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29020861

"Psilocybin-occasioned mystical-type experience in combination with meditation and other spiritual practices produces enduring positive changes in psychological functioning and in trait measures of prosocial attitudes and behaviors."

Here's a 7 page review of the lit. a year and a half old:

"Potential Therapeutic Effects of Psilocybin"
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5509636/

so it is coming. give it some thought. i've found them to be very helpful in dealing with some very serious problems i've faced.

  

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59. "Bell - 6’5 - 250lbs"
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This yalls king?!

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61. "jesus, why would she even step back in his face with her hands up?"
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that's a big boy

I'm not team white guy but I'm just saying, that's hella dumb. You gotta work as a unit to subjugate an absolute unit like that

  

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62. "Your end qualifier doesn’t absolve you. "
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64. "Absolve me, papa!"
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67. "lol. No disrespect, *says disrespectful shit*"
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Y’all Ricky Bobby folks look silly right now

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70. "Yo my man, you never had a teenager act stupid with you"
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and what to bust his ass before, then been like nah...

Come on

It's white man shit to even introduce yourself into this situation (reminds me of the video of that white guy who tried to stop a woman from driving off the scene and ended up sprawled out in the intersection). She made the decision to come at him with her hands up bro and unfortunately that's enough to pretty much guarantee this white man faces no consequences for what he did

  

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71. "I avoid kids like the plague, so no"
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I don’t look like someone to steal on at all. And when I’ve had to be around kids either on the metro or public spaces I treat them with human respect and it goes a long way
If I’m passing “scuse me y’all”
If they’re too loud or wild in my presence, I remove myself without huff or pretense and damn sure don’t try to get them to calm down.

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77. "For the most part I have the same experience"
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Hard lesson for these girls to learn because not everybody will be respectful of them and they will not be given much understanding by the judicial system or the media about this altercation

  

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75. "RE: Yo my man, you never had a teenager act stupid with you"
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I’ve been in DC seven years now. Lived off Morgan station, lived by Howard, work off the red line by Rhode Island ... you know how many youths have tested me in all of these interactions ... 0
0 times has someone tried to get at me.
I’m not bullet proof, they can touch me, and I’ll probably lose some money and phones in the process. But part of that dance in navigating the same spaces is just being mindful of the space.

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78. "well it was 0 for me until recently"
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Recently a teenager tried to get in my face after I scared him by running up to the awning he was standing under from out of the hard rain. He was like a 6'4" beanpole but I was dead tired from training, so I just shook my head and walked away.

Still, the antagonism bothered me so I kept watching him, he was looking out for someone and holding something in his closed hand that was going up his sleeve.

Shit, I could have got cut or something, but on a normal day I might have told him to you know what. Then it would have escalated like it did here.

edit: to say I've seen teenagers violate, punch, MANY adults on the train and in public other than myself. and I usually don't step in, but in some cases, it would probably be better if somebody DID step in.

  

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81. "EVERYBODY wants A fight but nobody wants TO fight"
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Folks just like fighting on their own terms which ... you don’t get to dictate
And one of the goofier parts of living in DC is people that think a verbal fight with a stranger with less to lose than you, will end verbally.
Not in your situation, but watching folks get tested on the metro because they don’t have the wherewithal to understand that they don’t really want that smoke shocks me.
It’s the mentality of the people that think that they shouldn’t HAVE to put away their expensive phone but don’t have the means to keep someone from getting at that phone.
I see those folks get tested a lot.
The rules are the rules.

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87. "oh yeah this is a problem"
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people I've seen get punched or tossed or whatever are usually old people or immigrants. And I see kids being disrespectful to adults all the time. That's the shit that irks me and makes me want to pound some of these kids out, and I'm not a violent person at all.

>Folks just like fighting on their own terms which ... you
>don’t get to dictate
>And one of the goofier parts of living in DC is people that
>think a verbal fight with a stranger with less to lose than
>you, will end verbally.

no 100% it will not

>It’s the mentality of the people that think that they
>shouldn’t HAVE to put away their expensive phone but don’t
>have the means to keep someone from getting at that phone.
>I see those folks get tested a lot.
>The rules are the rules.

people move in, try to make new rules, that's usually what happens.

my only thing is... sometimes it's these teenagers that are trying to make new rules, you know "finding their place in the world" etc. And sometimes they need to be taught 'the old rules'.

  

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91. "I want to say I’d step in for an old person"
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I hope I would
But I know old people got loose lips too and I’m not trying to take lumps because some idiot didn’t know to bite their tongue
Like an old person buying 200lbs of groceries ... you knew you couldn’t lift that when you were making purchases old ass.

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95. "at the bottom of the subway stairs like 'help i went shopping"
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and I can't get up!'

  

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125. "This was all a solid ass exchange "
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190. "exactly....these people are bugging."
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192. "Median weight of an 11 year old girl is about 80lbs"
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According to the cdc


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193. "That guy realistically could've thrown the kid for distance one-handed....."
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People act as if that kid could've been an actual threat.
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79. "If his concern was the white woman and child, all he had to do was"
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stand there and "protect" them (i.e., stop any harm from coming to them), or walk them to their car, or whatever.

But he was the one who pushed the girl, then knocked her out (luckily she didn't hit her head on that guard post).

I'm not saying the girls weren't acting up, or that their behavior wasn't annoying and unnecessary. It was. I get annoyed when kids get loud and wild on the subway, here. Especially as I get older, I don't want all that noise and commotion near me.

But leave unarmed children alone, period. He's five times older than them and he's a giant. Fuck him. 12 months in real deal jail and 4 years parole is what I'd give him.

  

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82. "When i was in middle-school, adults fought back and we respected it"
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I dont mean KOing someone in a 1 on 1 "fair one"

But right off the top of my head, i remember one pissed off kid charging a teacher, and "Mr M" picked him up and body slammed him lol. We were like "oh shit! Lol" ...yeah the kid probably got some bruises, but nobody ever charged Mr M again. And we respected it.

On another occasion, a kid around 13 or so threw a single punch at another unsuspecting kid, literally breaking his face, causing an ambulance, surgery, and when he finally came back to school like a month later, he had permanent plates in a visibly-reconstructed face.

Same year, another kid the same age as the kid whose punch broke a face, socked another teacher square in the face for trying to hold him back from someone he wanted to attack, so she got extra rough with him, and nobody held it against her.

Adults should never be required to curl up and be passive at all costs, especially when surrounded by a mob, and especially when your wife and child are also at risk.

Everything above is 1 on 1...the story in this post is a case of 1 vs an entire crowd. With family to protect.

I dont to think his intent was to KO a girl, i think he was understandably scared (not of one girl but the entire situation, with his family in the mix) and adrenaline took over.

  

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83. "In each of those instances the child was already attacking."
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From what I see in this video, these girls were merely running around and being super loud. The man is the one who takes it all the way physical, not the girls.

  

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86. "Thet weren't running around, they were very clearly"
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surrounding dude and his family on all sides, cornering them, not trying to let them leave, and rushing into their personal space in a clearly threatening manner.

  

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88. "That’s not his family. And he stepped into the middle of them. "
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94. "Right. And even if it was his family, he's big enough that he can "
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move the woman and child through a group of 11 and 12 year old girls, without hitting any of them.

He doesn't get to unleash on children just because he's (understandably) pissed off. The only way that's ok is once they start attacking.

  

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97. "Bullshit. You act like size makes him invincible vs 20 kids"
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103. "Literally little girls. Little girls."
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114. "20 middle-school girls are plenty capable of fucking up 1 man "
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"What about 8 or fewer? Same math?"


  

          

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119. "8 vs 1? Easily, u kidding? "
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120. "None of them had laid a hand on anyone yet, though."
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He first pushed the one girl not in order to protect but out of sheer anger.

  

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122. "He'd already been pushed and they weren't letting them leave."
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That makes them the clear initiators of violence.

  

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225. "Pretty much. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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96. "Ok so it was someone"
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else's child being mobbed by a crowd of bullies, so i guess in that case just let them feast right?

  

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100. "Feast, mob, ... why do you hang out on the internet with Black folks?"
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They don’t like you on 8chan?
There’s a whole world of vlogging to get your proud boy kicks in

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102. "Lost on logic so now you reach for fake dog whistles huh? "
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104. "^hollers"
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A charter member trying to act brand new

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107. "^ lost"
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84. "guess I'm the only one who laughed a little?"
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no. Assault on kids is never funny


but damn, the way she went down was cartoonish

  

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85. "a LOT of internet commenters want to punch 12 year old kids"
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A Lot (c) you.

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101. "Or maybe they just dont want a world where 12 yo kids have a"
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free pass to mob up and threaten ppl who will face jail if they defend themselves.

  

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106. "Are you including me in that group? Lol"
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That was an observation after reading through the comments of the video

  

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110. "So you read through the comments section"
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And after reflecting came away with that take? Yikes.
Most comments section are a fun house mirror of reflection

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90. "i laughed."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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112. "Kenny Burns' take..."
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https://www.instagram.com/p/Bss604VFQGo/

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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115. "Anyone who’s mans with shaun king is immediately suspect "
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That dudes whole bread and butter is finding ways to make money off black suffering

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116. "Any1 who thinks he wouldn't have done thst if it was a mob of white girl..."
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tho is being ebtirely irrational

And white kids (girls and boys) mob and bully ppl too. Just as often. They should not be protected either if they're threatening ppl.

Sorry. Everyone has a right to defend themselves or someone being threatened. Nobody has a free pass to corner and threaten someone.

  

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117. "More often. Not just as much. Exceedingly more"
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See ... the history of America from slavery to lynching to race riots to modern day.

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118. "I wont argue with that at all. Absolutely"
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124. "Stand Your Ground - North Carolina"
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I remember probably 10 years ago...or so...groups of Philly youth were all into flash mobs

...meeting at some location in the city, and just vandalizing errything...

Now, PA has Stand Your Ground laws too

I know these are kids, and we've all been in that group think kind of mentality at some point in our lives

but legislation has been passed that allows/encourages violence against black bodies based on how it is enforced

https://www.lexisnexis.com/LegalNewsRoom/resized-image/__size/550x0/__key/communityserver-blogs-components-weblogfiles/00-00-00-03-00/0434.Stand-Your-Ground-Map.jpg

i.e. acting like that is EXTRA dumb in 2019.

+1 No, dude should not have knocked out an 11 Y.O., but I doubt very highly that he see any jail time based on these SYG laws

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139. "kenny burns got a new hustle for every era lol."
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i didnt realize dude was an activist now.

  

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141. "Not sure if he's an activist but this is an excerpt from his Revolt show..."
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>RE: kenny burns got a new hustle for every era lol.

Dude definitely has multiple streams of income. The cat been around since Diddy was Howard.

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147. "yeah dude been around since amaretto sours and first fridays lol."
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162. "The mid 90’s??"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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203. "Yup! Mid-90s..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5AsTzEpqZU


https://creativeloafing.com/content-161493-Kenny-Burns\'-new-documentary-puts-his-biz-on-blast--6/2/2010


I just remember dude's name and face popping up and him not going anywhere. He's been around since then. LOL

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131. "I am not even sure folks are truly disagreeing in this post. "
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I think everyone agrees that dude shouldn't have hit that girl like that.

There seems to be some dissagree over the second point folks are making which is, "A kid should expect that if they square up with an adult, they might get their ass whipped like an adult".

I don't think this second point at all undercuts the first point.

But it seems like some folks are finding the second point...controversial or repugnant?

Explain it without attributing to people positions that they did not take.



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136. "Who deserves empathy is my beef"
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Nobody here is empathizing with those kids (self included)
I don’t like kids. I don’t like teens, and collectively and culturally I think they’re dumb.
But nobody here is saying, imagine being a kid, a young black girl, having a situation that’s getting out of control On you quickly. And suddenly this 6’5 non cop white man just steps into the middle and starts barking at you, while also trying to physically intimidate you ... none of us are even processing that.

It’s all about adults and conflict and kids and finding ways to make sense of this situation.

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150. "As a parent, I process it by imagining if it were my kid. "
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And I watch the video and I would be heated at my kid for behaving like that. Like someone else said I would want to deal with that adult for doing that to my kid, but I would also not be happy at my child.

I would also feel like I was doing something wrong as a parent if I allowed my kid to walk around and think they can behave like that and not suffer any consequences.

Anyway, I think it's possible to hold both thoughts in your mind 1.) Fuck that guy, he is a piece of shit and 2.) that kid was dumb as fuck to step to a grown man like that.



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199. "^all this "
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>
>And I watch the video and I would be heated at my kid for
>behaving like that. Like someone else said I would want to
>deal with that adult for doing that to my kid, but I would
>also not be happy at my child.
>
>I would also feel like I was doing something wrong as a parent
>if I allowed my kid to walk around and think they can behave
>like that and not suffer any consequences.
>
>Anyway, I think it's possible to hold both thoughts in your
>mind 1.) Fuck that guy, he is a piece of shit and 2.) that kid
>was dumb as fuck to step to a grown man like that.

  

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138. "Based on the outcome, it clearly was a bad idea to do that"
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Some people think they're "off limits" based on certain demographics (age/gender/income etc)

Nobody has a force field around them, anyone can get punched in the face (or worse)

I've had to warn my grandmother about talking greasy to random people in the street/traffic because I'm legit Worried somebody is going to do something to her

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132. "I'm not going to say there's NOTHING an 11 year old can do to warrant"
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Getting hands put on them, I don't know if the girls in that video met that criteria


My girlfriend texted me once that some younger girls (I don't know if they were as young as these girls) tried to set her hair on fire on the subway

It's a good thing I wasn't there because right or wrong I probably have put one of them in the hospital/ended up in jail.

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142. "If an 11 year old girl rushed a 6'5&quot; man like that "
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and he KO'd her in a vacuum, he'd be wayyy in the wrong.

But if a crowd of middle-school girls are surrounding and threatening someone, and deliberately not letting them leave, and he steps in to stop it, and one shoves him in the back and another rushes him, and he pushes her away and she runs back at him with her fists up ...in the midst of all that... Thats just different. Dude isnt impervious to harm, and those 2 behind him certainly aren't.

Nobody should be obligated to take some damage from a physical showdown they didnt start, just because they're bigger. I say this as a very small guy who would never expect a big dude to let me tee off on him.

  

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144. "i had to punch a black teenage girl in the face before."
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a group of girls drove to my house in the burbs to jump my niece over some dumb shit.

came up to my door yelling and screaming at like 10pm. started throwing rocks from around my bushes at the crib (thankfully didnt break any windows).

my niece (not the best decision on her part) had the main door open telling them to leave while the front glass door was closed (but unlocked).

they opened the glass door and grabbed my niece tryna pull her out into the yard.

i had to run downstairs and eventually slide somebodys jaw real quick to free my niece up. they all backed the fuck up when she crumbled.

one of my neighbors...off-duty cop...eventually came through and made em leave.

fuck an age.

they completely embarrassed me in front of a bunch of white neighbors in the middle of the night in an otherwise peaceful neighborhood.

had i been a younger version of me...i prolly woulda pulled a few of them *in* the crib on some 'now you *cant* leave' (c) sonny.

  

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146. "You didn’t have a bat?"
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148. "You did the right thing."
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Lol at that last sentence

But in all seriousness, what were you supposed to do, let a group of kids beat the pulp out your niece? No effing way.

  

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151. "Shield his fam, walk in a straight line to my car and leave..."
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...like an Adult apparently

  

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152. "I whiffed on that one lol"
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155. ".."
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nm

  

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156. "Oh ok lol"
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154. "But i agree thats obviously the preferred outcome."
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157. "Shit nigga i don't"
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I was being facetious based off of meat's post way up there.

The problem with a lot of these posts is that they are saying what they should of did but when you're in the heat of the moment you won't have time to look at a situation in hindsight and make the best choice.

If you run up to my gate, where me and my kids sleep, with back up? I'm sorry but you gonna learn today. I don't give a fuck who or how old you are

  

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159. "He created the heated moment"
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I was in a bar just this past Friday. A bar. Over 21
And a dude was harassing the bartender, he got escorted out, but he had “that look” and we were done drinking anyways
So we left, and dude skipped
SKIPPED to his car
Now every time a dude skips to his car bad things might not happen, but there’s a greater than zero chance that that dude was coming back.

It’s wild easy to just say this situation isn’t for me and to go on.

This dude tried to act like a bear around ducks and put himself in a bad situation.

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160. "RE: Shit nigga i don't"
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I mean ideally, I'd definitely prefer an outcome where nobody gets hurt, including the girl who got punched... especially given how she fell.

>I was being facetious based off of meat's post way up there.
:
Yeah i was slow lol

>The problem with a lot of these posts is that they are saying
>what they should of did but when you're in the heat of the
>moment you won't have time to look at a situation in hindsight
>and make the best choice.
:
EXACTLY. People dont realize how unrealistic it is to expect someone to be analytical, tactful, and perfectly measured in their dose of force when in a situation where you're being closed in on from all sides and a child they're apparently after is hiding behind you.

  

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158. "You could just say you’re ho made and have bad conflict resolution ski..."
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Yes, if a group of less than 8 small girls passively surround you with less force than a 2-3 zone, it’s wild mature to just use your adult ass body with your adult ass musice and walk to your adult ass vehicle and drive to your adult ass house and move o with your life
You might even have an adult ass beverage.
But if you’re still mentally young and want to spend your mentally young time in adult ass jail over pride and fear ... then by all means. I’m sure the adult ass legal system, and adult ass job hiring system will understand.

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161. "Well ho ass human shield ass nigga..."
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I'm talking specifically about the post I referred to I didn't watch the video. Didn't need to to know if you run up you risk getting done up. I don't condone white dude doing that shit, but I teach my kids if you asking for a fight be prepared to fight. You can't blame a nigga for how they react.

And secondly you and everybody else in here talking about what they WOULD'VE done or SHOULD'VE done. Niggas conflict resolution skills are always top notch when you got a video to watch.

  

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163. "Buy a better data plan and maybe a nine second video won’t cost you"
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Your lunch money.

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165. "lol oh word?"
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If you would of threw a punch once in your life instead of eating punches then maybe you'd have your lunch money


  

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166. "Good one sparky. I’m sure when your supervisor catches you with"
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Your phone on the work room floor they’ll cut your hours back down to 20. Good luck with that.

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197. "Nigga responding like he JUST got a job lol"
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198. "You on the mop this week. Keep it up you’ll get to the fries. "
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We 200 yet?

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167. "Mans up in here talking about forming Spartan shields and shit"
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And walking to the car like that's gonna make him invisible.

I would have

You should have

Why didn't they


All the while never have been involved in anything. There is always the self defense ball. Curl up on the ground and hope someone gets tired of hitting you.

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168. "I’m sorry a little girl hurt you once"
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You’ve dedicated your entire life to never having a little girl hurt you again and someone questioning your world view seems to have elicited painful memories

The girl that hurt you is a woman now and I’m sure if she could speak to you today she’d say sorry.

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188. "Don't be mad, UPS is hiring"
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191. "... I’m employed. "
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The least you could do is be accurate.

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172. "LOL maybe he can fit that girl and mom in the ball too? He's big"
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169. "he's obv more wrong, and it's not like he was trapped..."
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I ain't nearly as big as that dude and i'm pretty sure i could make my way through a bunch of wild little girls without having to lay one out.

that said.. tiny violin, don't poke bears, etc...

  

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170. "I'd be inclined to agree if he wasn't protecting someone else"
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174. "would probably need to know more of the back story"
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is it the people behind him? unless those girls are beating up that tiny kid, i can't see going any further than maybe pushing people out of the way who get close, but yeah no one really knows what they're gonna do until shit happens.

I can't muster up much sympathy for kids who mob up like that. you keep sticking your hand through the fence, don't whine when you get bit.

  

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175. "RE: would probably need to know more of the back story"
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According to his lawyer, he saw the woman and kid being harassed, he stepped in the middle of the group of kids and told them to leave ... and they reacted like “who the fuck are you”

That’s all the backstory. He called himself being a hero. Like a typical ass white man.

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177. "if that's the case, pre-punch there's nothing wrong with what he did"
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178. "How much do you trust the word of a lawyer whose client punched a child"
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And then played the PTSD card.

For me that answer is “I don’t”

But that’s the back story for now. Likely all we’ll see also.

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179. "that's why i said if that's the case"
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but from what i saw in the video. fuck those kids, and fuck him more.

  

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171. "He stepped to them. Young showed heart"
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She a legend in my book.

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176. "haha"
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>She a legend in my book.

  

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173. "Lotta people scared of girls who can't make a layup on a 10 foot rim yet"
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based on reaction in this post, i was expecting like full grown teenagers. Dude mollywhopped a baby.

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200. "LOL"
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189. "So if your preteen kid comes at me like that, can I knock them out cold?..."
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No?


A lot of people are trying to justify that kid getting hit like that and it's stupid: adults shouldn't be assaulting kids, period.

This guy could've walked off or had the kid reported if he truly felt that the kid was a menace. Justifying violence is just some bullshit excuse to show how much you hate the youth?
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194. "it wasnt teenage girls but "
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my homeboy from high school...when he was a bouncer in college...i used to hit up the spot he worked at when i came home for weekends, summer, etc.

and i saw him have to fend off a small group of college age young women on dyke night (that was the promoters official title for the weekly joint...not mine lol). these werent like brolic prison butch types either. just average lipstick femmes.

he wasnt in danger of losing his life or anything lol...but he sure nuff caught some damage like scratches to the face, arms, and neck. and a bite on his side/back that actually broke skin.

i know he did the chivalrous thing and restrained himself while waiting for backup...and didnt just rko a few chicks. but everybody aint tryna risk them unnecessary wounds if they dont have to.

little girl ran up on dude like she was gonna do something. safe to assume she meant it. and who knows if the rest wouldnt have joined in.

its interesting that the argument isnt 'he shouldnt have been the aggressor, confronted her, initiated the fight, etc'. its 'he shouldnt have stood his ground, he should have safely retreated to his car while simultaneously protecting the others, etc'.

and honestly...if that was my kid in this situation...id be pissed like most parents would be seeing their seed get laid out in broad day. but id also be questioning how i failed to teach her common sense lol. you dont run up on no big john stud looking nigga without a weapon.

the fact that she dont know why we have weight classes might be the biggest failure of parenting in this scenario.

  

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195. "and serious question: should kids be barking at adults?"
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and even physically confronting them?

since we are doing the whole 'communal rules we should be abiding by' thing.

cuz back in the day youd get in trouble for even raising your voice at an adult. if an adult did something outta pocket...youd go get another adult to address it.

i think the overton window has definitely shifted to the pro-kid side. to the point where you got kids screaming on teachers and squaring up with parents and we handcuff the adult with some expectation of complete restraint simply because theyre adults. what expectations do we still have nowadays of kids simply because theyre kids? doesnt seem like many if any.

  

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204. "YUP YUP YUP!"
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>RE: and serious question: should kids be barking at adults?
>and even physically confronting them?
>
>since we are doing the whole 'communal rules we should be
>abiding by' thing.
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>cuz back in the day youd get in trouble for even raising your
>voice at an adult. if an adult did something outta
>pocket...youd go get another adult to address it.
>
>i think the overton window has definitely shifted to the
>pro-kid side. to the point where you got kids screaming on
>teachers and squaring up with parents and we handcuff the
>adult with some expectation of complete restraint simply
>because theyre adults. what expectations do we still have
>nowadays of kids simply because theyre kids? doesnt seem like
>many if any.
>

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196. "I would really hope my 11 year daughter wouldnt be dumb enough to run up"
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on some strange man who is literally 3 times her size

or wouldn't be harassing some mom and her kid (if that was really the case).

There's no justification for what he did but it doesn't have to be one or the other

  

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201. "Most people don’t think it’s OK"
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but are honest enough to admit it’s a possibility when you try to square up in a situation like that.

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202. "Serious question"
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Because I thought about this incident throughout the night.
Why is the the standard for how the child acted higher than the adult?

For all of the posts saying that the man felt threatened and responded, can that same mindset not be applied to the child?

That man approached them
He physically contacted her first
And when she got up he punched her
At every stage of that he was the physical aggressor.

So if that’s what his flight, fight, friend response was that ... as an assumed developed adult, why are the response so harsh on a child in a high stress situation.

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205. "there's nothing in that video to indicate he was keeping her there"
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you're reaching.

  

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206. "What does detaining or restraining have to do with my question"
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I didn’t even imply it.

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207. "you're going on about fight or flight and she felt threatened"
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they're surrounding him yelling at him. one of the girls pushes him in the beginning of the video. they can leave, but they chose to confront a large strange man.

she gets close, and he pushes her and she foolishly runs up on him. he reacted

there's no excuse for what he did, and as the adult he's more in the wrong, but i'm not trying to make excuses for these kids either.

  

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209. "They didn’t surround him. He stepped into the middle of them"
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Everything about your premise starts incorrectly.
So you’re coming to a conclusion that under any scrutiny doesn’t make sense
He
Approached
Them
Therefore, it is her response to a new situation that I’m asking about.

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212. "cute semantics and all but I'm not impying he's trapped"
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You're saying the little girl was threatened and in a fight or flight situation, when she/they could have just walked the fuck away

  

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214. "Walking away is the flight response you gooftroop"
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215. "Lol ok you got me there"
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208. "I think the expectation is that the junior person respects the authority"
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of the adult, regardless of the adult's intentions and qualifications.

THEY should have listened to him.

THEY should have stood down.

THEY should have left the premises.

Sometimes adults do have to protect themselves and their property and interests from young people, and protect young people from themselves and each other. That's undoubted. Even you and Hitokiri have said as much.

So at what point does that adult overstep in protecting public safety? We all know the minute he threw that punch he overstepped, but I guess it's arguable that he overstepped the minute he intruded into their world.

To a lot of people watching this, the transgressions of the teens preceded the transgression we can all agree on, the punch, through their 'congregating', 'loitering', just generally being up to no good (we can only assume since no actual crimes are on camera). Because of that, it's them that will bear the burden of the outcome.

  

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210. "But to my point, that’s an appeal to logic"
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When people are talking about his pushing and punch, they’re relating to his perception of threat.
But he initiated the threat, where’s the consideration for her perception of threat?

Shorter:
Folks: he punched her because of fear (he acted based on an emotion)
The implicit: the child should have thought through the situation and acted differently based on logic.

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211. "I totally get what you are saying. I think that's problematic"
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that people are holding the child to a higher standard of self control than the adult. It's the same way people hold police less accountable than people they are apprehending.

Like yeah, 41 shots is excessive, buuuuut..... should he have been more obvious that he was reaching for his wallet? etc.

One in the public view, is enforcing the law / protecting public safety, the other is an inherent threat to it.

The reality is just by the subject's ethnicity, people will assign an inherent threat level to them being in a certain location in a certain number, in short, simply existing and living their lives.

The issue with this video is that it exposes people's biases and prejudices to this group of females without any evidence of what actually led to the dispute being shown. If it was a group of pre-teen white girls at a pool party, there would certainly be more outrage at the man.

  

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213. "And I don’t have an answer for why this aspect bothers me so much "
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I feel that I’m worried about “y’all”

In how we reflexively are so quick to condemn our own. Because with a race swap, this man would be a dead man walking. Either the cops would get him, or the folks on the street, but he’d be dead.

But in the real world situation that did happen, the racists are fucking elated about this. Meanwhile even the most well intentioned of us, keep condemning the actions of a child for how illogical they are and quasi justifying what the man did ... to a degree.

And when I say y’all. I don’t feel a part of my people one this one. I feel like, I’m embarrassed for those of us who take in the white default so deeply, that they can’t fully confront the wrong in this situation ... that they’ll stop at a point where they understand it. And I don’t have that.

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216. "And this wasn’t my point yesterday. "
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Yesterday I was just pissed that a man hit a child. Then as I stated to really dig through the situation on who initiated, age, size, the jokes ... then I just got mad

But I was in bed by then.

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217. "I didn't really fully get your point until post 202"
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It's crazy that we never stop to think, holy shit, this girl has a grown ass man in her face outside of a safe, predictable, school environment. He has no credentials as a police officer, security guard, or teacher. Maybe that's threatening as fuck?

Same time, why do we assume the man's violent reaction to a perceived threat is all that justified? After all, he introduced HIMSELF into the situation with full confidence that he could single-handedly take command of it. Apparently he had no such skills. The fact that he 'won' the ensuing SECOND altercation, as a lot of mouth-breathers on the internet will applaud, is purely circumstantial. He is a much larger, stronger individual.

Had he been stomped out by the group, I'm sure some people would be saying he got what he deserved. It would have been deemed comical.

  

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221. "The understanding that consequences disproportionally affect black peopl..."
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Completely warps everyone’s sense of reality.
So much so that we’re willing to start from the premise of “she should’ve known better” and shape our whole world view from there.
It’s this
It’s R Kelly
It’s the kid getting hemmed up by the teacher
And so on and so on
We police ourselves internally to a degree that others simply do not. And we do it in part because the consequences are so severe. And so I’m left with the challenge of recognizing that a child shouldn’t have to know better than an adult, accepting that it is a reality, but also questioning why it’s to be that way ... and fundamentally I reject the why

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218. "You keep ignoring people saying dude was dead wrong"
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most people are saying she shouldn’t have tried to square up with him.

Doesn’t mean dude was right, just means she increased her chances of getting punched.

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219. "I don’t. I validated it in fact. "
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My request is for emptathy with the child.
Not sympathy for the aftermath. But putting yourself in her shoes and not just the thoughts from it. But the totality of emotions. The fear of being a child.
And I just don’t see folks here humanizing her the way they have this man.

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220. "And more to my point what I’m saying is what she SHOULD have done "
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Is irrelevant.
If a grown man can be excused to any degree that validates even a smidge him hitting an 11 year old with a fist after pushing her to the ground
Then that child deserves SOME degree of excuse for her actions based on the same illogic of emotions afforded to that man

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222. "***not touching this just reading the comments***"
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