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shockvalue
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"Lyrics that 21 Savage has not apologized for"


          

21 Savage has just apologized for saying the incredibly offensive line, "We been getting that Jewish money, everything is kosher" in his song "ASMR".

https://pitchfork.com/news/21-savage-apologizes-for-jewish-money-lyrics/

The following lines though, from "Red Opps", are apparently just fine:

"I just bought a pistol it got 30 rounds in it
Pull up at yo momma house and put some rounds in it
Wet a nigga block and watch them niggas drown in it
Hunnid round drum gun a nigga down with it
I'm on that Slaughter Gang shit, Murder Gang shit
Slaughter Gang shit, Murder Gang shit
I'm on that Slaughter Gang shit, Murder Gang shit"

Add on.

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Weird post, but okay
Dec 26th 2018
1
You Jewish?
Dec 26th 2018
3
No I'm not, what does that have to do with anything?
Dec 27th 2018
12
      Wondered why you think he post is weird when it’s obvious
Dec 27th 2018
19
           It's not that obvious, though
Dec 27th 2018
23
                yep
Dec 28th 2018
40
                     RE: yep
Dec 28th 2018
42
Nah it's not weird
Dec 27th 2018
32
Why is that line offensive?
Dec 26th 2018
2
I told y'all about this guy right?
Dec 26th 2018
4
yes, you did.
Dec 26th 2018
5
      That's how y'all respond to an honest question? Okay.
Dec 27th 2018
14
           You already know what’s up with these people
Dec 27th 2018
20
                shout out to black rob
Dec 27th 2018
22
                scotch tape with a razor blade hairline ass nigga
Dec 27th 2018
30
                lol @ whoa
Jan 02nd 2019
49
Do you genuinely believe that there aren't negative or harmful
Dec 27th 2018
25
      More harmful than “murder murder, kill, kill”
Dec 27th 2018
28
      RE: More harmful than “murder murder, kill, kill”
Dec 27th 2018
31
      damn legs...that was so *redacts*
Dec 28th 2018
41
      Do you think it's more or less harmful than Asians are good at Math
Dec 27th 2018
35
           Those are also shitty
Dec 28th 2018
36
                Yeah most stereotypes are shitty, some lead to genocide.
Dec 28th 2018
43
anybody remember when lil wayne threatened to
Dec 26th 2018
6
Lil wayne lyrics are so trash on paper
Dec 26th 2018
8
*gillie face*
Dec 27th 2018
10
that's the most threatening way to ask a dude out on a date
Dec 27th 2018
16
The best rapper who also has an encyclopedia full of trash lyrics
Dec 27th 2018
24
my addition
Dec 26th 2018
7
None of these labels or media CEOs
Dec 26th 2018
9
You see how folks in here caping for them tho
Dec 27th 2018
11
      RE: You see how folks in here caping for (((them))) tho
Dec 27th 2018
13
      you see it
Dec 27th 2018
15
           He’s white..
Dec 27th 2018
18
                but you're the one who supports white supremacists, so
Dec 27th 2018
21
                     Good comeback
Dec 27th 2018
29
      They don't bite the hand that feeds them
Dec 27th 2018
34
      Yup. Prolly print this page out and show it to their bosses
Dec 28th 2018
37
           RE: Yup. Prolly print this page out and show it to their bosses
Dec 29th 2018
46
      RE: You see how folks in here caping for them tho
Dec 29th 2018
45
imagine Ice Cube apologizing for Death Certificate (c) DJ Pooh
Dec 27th 2018
17
^
Dec 27th 2018
33
Not sure if you're interested in a serious discussion here
Dec 27th 2018
26
He should apologize for....
Dec 27th 2018
27
As long as Blacks bring poison into their own communities
Dec 28th 2018
38
^^^^
Dec 28th 2018
39
Let me drop this here:
Dec 28th 2018
44
You should do like we do...stack chips like hebrews...
Dec 30th 2018
47
Fam, you need to stop stereotyping and go fix black-on-black crime
Jan 03rd 2019
50
black people dont have the power to force rappers to do better
Dec 30th 2018
48

Marauder21
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1. "Weird post, but okay"
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3. "You Jewish? "
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Rappers can rap about killing niggas and fucking bitches but Jewish money is offensive?

America, gotta love it.

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12. "No I'm not, what does that have to do with anything?"
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Are you keeping a list or something?

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19. "Wondered why you think he post is weird when it’s obvious"
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what the OP is suggesting.

But don’t mind me.



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23. "It's not that obvious, though"
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21 Savage has violent lyrics
He also had a lyric that, while it might not be explicitly anti-Semitic, plays with some shitty stereotypes about Jewish people.

He apologized for that one.

Does the OP actually want him to apologize for the violent lyrics?
Is it a criticism of 21 Savage himself for apologizing for the other lyric?
A general complaint about The Jews?

People apologize for things that offend other people all the time, what makes this so special?

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40. "yep"
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who is the violent lines offensive to? lol

what demographic was offended by that? moms? houses? moms with houses? lmao

im dying

nigga need to be apologizing for rhyming the same words with the exact same words and a general shittiness with lyrics lol

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42. "RE: yep"
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>need to be apologizing for rhyming the same words with
>the exact same words and a general shittiness with lyrics lol

my mom and my house both agree.

  

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32. "Nah it's not weird"
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This is similar to the apology P Diddy had to make years ago, because of a stereotypical lyric about Asian women in one of his songs. Someone called him a hypocrite because he never apologized for the negative lyrics about black women.

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2. "Why is that line offensive?"
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Wed Dec-26-18 03:28 PM by flipnile

          

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_and_religion#/media/File:Income_Ranking_by_Religious_Group_-_2000.png
https://jewishbusinessnews.com/2018/03/07/jews-make-19-forbes-200-worlds-richest-list/

  

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4. "I told y'all about this guy right?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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5. "yes, you did."
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14. "That's how y'all respond to an honest question? Okay."
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Say no more. Won't waste any time with you either.

  

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20. "You already know what’s up with these people "
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Whoa is the Black man who doesn’t cape for...

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22. "shout out to black rob"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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30. "scotch tape with a razor blade hairline ass nigga"
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49. "lol @ whoa"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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25. "Do you genuinely believe that there aren't negative or harmful"
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connotations behind propping up a "those Jews, they're good with money" stereotype?

Is this one of those "you don't get it, it's a compliment" thing?

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28. "More harmful than “murder murder, kill, kill” "
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You think nazi’s are listening to jewish money and getting so upset it’s so harmful they must apologize?

F.O.H.

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31. "RE: More harmful than “murder murder, kill, kill” "
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>You think nazi’s are listening to jewish money and getting
>so upset it’s so harmful they must apologize?
>
>F.O.H.

The fuck was any of this? What actually upsets you about the fact that 21 Savage apologized over a lyric that people didn't like?

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41. "damn legs...that was so *redacts*"
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that shit was hilariously *redacts*

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35. "Do you think it's more or less harmful than Asians are good at Math"
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stereotypes?

Or black dudes got big johnsons?


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36. "Those are also shitty"
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43. "Yeah most stereotypes are shitty, some lead to genocide. "
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Just trying to figure out where this one lands for you.


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6. "anybody remember when lil wayne threatened to"
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Wed Dec-26-18 06:46 PM by Reeq

          

kidnap beyonce and take jay z out on a date to lay him down and give him the business by playing with his asshole and tossing his salad?

lol im disordering the words/intentions but seriously tho this was a weird ass verse. how you try to intimidate a nigga with a bunch of sexual metaphors? especially the 2nd to last bar (huh?)

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Talkin' 'bout baby money? I got your baby money
Kidnap your bitch, get that "how much you love your lady" money
I know you fake nigga, press your brakes nigga
I'll take you out, that's a date nigga
I'm a grown ass blood, stop playin' with me
Play asshole and get an ass whippin'
I think you pussy cat ha, hello kitty
I just throw the alley-oop to Drake Griffin
I lay 'em down, tempur-pedic
This shits a game of chess, you niggas think its cleavage
Its young money, yeah 'tis the season
I give you the business, bitch this a business meeting
My niggas hungry, my bitches greedy
Will I die a bloody murder? Dear Mr. Ouija
Nigga, I'm straight, my girl a faggot
Potato on the barrel, pop pop tater salad, ugh!

  

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8. "Lil wayne lyrics are so trash on paper"
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Lolol

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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10. "*gillie face*"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQ91N_2SSrY

  

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16. "that's the most threatening way to ask a dude out on a date"
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that I've ever seen

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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24. "The best rapper who also has an encyclopedia full of trash lyrics"
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of all time

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7. "my addition"
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so now 21 savage has apologized
lebron james had to apologize for posting said lyric

but doug morris (a jew and the head of sony music which distributes and profits off the music) has yet to apologize and even received any SCORN

OK!!!!???

http://howardlloyd.bandcamp.com

  

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9. "None of these labels or media CEOs"
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will apologize for continually pushing the most stereotypical and degrading images of Black people so I say FOHWTBS.

People don't even peep game.

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11. "You see how folks in here caping for them tho"
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and acting funny style when folks point out the hypocrisy?

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13. "RE: You see how folks in here caping for (((them))) tho"
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Fixed it for you

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15. "you see it"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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18. "He’s white.. "
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You aren’t.

Sorry.

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21. "but you're the one who supports white supremacists, so"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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29. "Good comeback"
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34. "They don't bite the hand that feeds them "
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even if it's molded imaginary crumbs.

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37. "Yup. Prolly print this page out and show it to their bosses"
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See massa, I’s good.

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46. "RE: Yup. Prolly print this page out and show it to their bosses"
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>See massa, I’s good.

Seems like it.


www.Tupreme.com

  

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45. "RE: You see how folks in here caping for them tho"
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Know your audience bro, lol.




www.Tupreme.com

  

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17. "imagine Ice Cube apologizing for Death Certificate (c) DJ Pooh"
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33. "^ "
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Bluebear
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26. "Not sure if you're interested in a serious discussion here"
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but isn't the issue using stereotypes of another group. Isn't this the same way Jewish folks making jewish jokes is fine but there'd be a backlash if they made jokes about other people?

  

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27. "He should apologize for...."
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His whole rap career....nigga is Trash...

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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EAS
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38. "As long as Blacks bring poison into their own communities"
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it is okay. Doesn't matter whether it is drugs or music. Once you start to go beyond that then it is time to reign it in whether you get locked up for dealin' or have to apologize for bringing that negative energy/poison to an outside group of people.

When will we learn that all of the negative energy we put into our music and imagery has damaging effects on our communities? Keeps the negative cycle that plagues us in motion. The shit's real and it should be obvious the way other communities shut shit down and don't stand for it. We are the only ones who consistently denigrate ourselves. There is power in numbers, unity, and love for your people. There has to be other ways of making good music and getting rich that isn't at the expense of your own people.

Which is why the conscious era of hip hop was so dope. Artists were rewarded for bringing the fight to them whether it was cops or white supremacy. Era was very short...hope one day that scene can come back around in a major way.

  

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39. "^^^^"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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44. "Let me drop this here:"
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*stirs pot*

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2018/12/alice-walkers-anti-semitic-poem-was-personal.html

  

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47. "You should do like we do...stack chips like hebrews..."
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"The more a country produces..the richer it is...the better it should take care of it's people. - Dr. Aleida Guevara"

  

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50. "Fam, you need to stop stereotyping and go fix black-on-black crime"
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48. "black people dont have the power to force rappers to do better"
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women, the Jewish and LGBT communities do (yes Im aware of intersectionality and how blacks fall under the women, LGBT and even Jewish banners, black issues always come last though)

also, rappers talking about stereotypical things like violence is reporting a fraction of reality. by this logic, to me the stereotype that Jewish people are good with money (meant as a compliment/something to aspire towards) isnt offensive. but we live in a time where online outrage is more on trend than it's ever been, so everyone is looking for a reason

it's hard to point a finger at where rappers should apologize. probably blatant anti-semitism and gay bashing aren't the only things that cant get a pass under "this is just how men talk", "this is what's happening in society" or "it was just shock and awe"


  

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