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"Jordan Peele's Us"


  

          

Us - Official Trailer

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RE: Jordan Peele's Us
Dec 25th 2018
1
RE: Jordan Peele's Us
Dec 25th 2018
2
TFW when the tokp response is the first response
Dec 25th 2018
3
What makes this a black horror film?
Dec 25th 2018
4
*SMH* man even your conditioning has been conditioning.
Dec 26th 2018
31
RE: *SMH* man even your conditioning has been conditioning.
Dec 28th 2018
87
Someone prolly drove a dump truck full of 100 dollar bills to his house
Dec 26th 2018
46
Peele says this film isn't about race tho.
Dec 29th 2018
105
There is zero shortage of black comedies and dramas.
Dec 27th 2018
69
Nope. I can't let this go.
Dec 28th 2018
91
Exactly smh
Dec 29th 2018
112
There are PLENTY of Black comedies and dramas spanning DECADES....
Dec 29th 2018
101
Looks dope.
Dec 25th 2018
5
Loved how they flipped I Got 5 On It!!!
Dec 25th 2018
6
using African-American glorification of drug-use song to introduce
Dec 25th 2018
8
You trying too hard. Merry Christmas.
Dec 25th 2018
9
Nothing in a film is by accident. To have a pro-drug song
Dec 25th 2018
13
      have you seen the film?
Dec 29th 2018
106
RE: using African-American glorification of drug-use song to introduce
Dec 27th 2018
74
brilliant.
Dec 25th 2018
11
RE: Loved how they flipped I Got 5 On It!!!
Dec 30th 2018
131
Since Peele is biracial, his first hit film critiqued White people
Dec 25th 2018
7
Or let it actually come out and see what it's about.
Dec 25th 2018
12
It's too late. Peele is already established. There is no escape
Dec 25th 2018
15
      Us Trailer: Jordan Peele Explains Trailer (swipe)
Dec 25th 2018
17
           "the simple fact that we are our own worst enemies."
Dec 25th 2018
18
                No, Chief Queef, I guess we don’t. You solved it. Good job.
Dec 25th 2018
20
                yep, solved
Dec 25th 2018
21
                except he was talking about people in general
Dec 25th 2018
22
                     for the 2nd time. Nothing in film is an accident. Nothing
Dec 25th 2018
23
                          Nigga, I worked in film for years
Dec 25th 2018
24
                               wishing and hoping it's not about what it's clearly showing
Dec 25th 2018
25
                                    I'm waiting for the "I'm Jordan Peele" reveal...
Dec 26th 2018
29
                                    People have been extrapolating film plots from trailers forever
Dec 30th 2018
117
                                    Go even deeper
Dec 26th 2018
33
                                    lol
Dec 26th 2018
35
                                    lol
Dec 26th 2018
39
                                    lmao
Dec 26th 2018
44
                                    Haha
Dec 28th 2018
76
                                    i love you
Dec 29th 2018
107
                                    so mad I'm just now reading this thread! LOL!!!
Jan 04th 2019
150
                                         right?!? this reply was pure brilliance!
Mar 09th 2019
171
                                    Other than possibly having a different song playing, how would this trai...
Dec 31st 2018
135
                                         I wasn't THAT far off here
Sep 14th 2021
332
lol that is a funny theory but left something out.
Dec 27th 2018
70
      that Cube song is pretty racial. So......if you believe that song
Dec 27th 2018
71
           “Not about race” meaning no white antagonists?
Dec 30th 2018
118
                winston duke aint african
Mar 09th 2019
170
Can we not over analzye this film to death before it comes out?
Dec 25th 2018
10
Peele has his focus. He just does. Had it with Key & Peele
Dec 25th 2018
16
Yeah, seems that way don't it?
Mar 10th 2019
172
No!
Dec 29th 2018
104
very interesting to see who is playing in these roles
Dec 25th 2018
14
that orchestral flip of "I Got 5 On It" tho.
Dec 25th 2018
19
I hope that makes it into the score and isn’t just for the trailer
Dec 25th 2018
26
That was hard
Dec 25th 2018
27
Looks like it could be good, but let people be mad
Dec 26th 2018
28
C71 is clearly right. Plus, people are going in on the fact
Dec 26th 2018
30
"Clearly"?
Dec 26th 2018
32
      This is worse than True Detective S1
Dec 26th 2018
34
      Y'all are resisting this because you dont want the movie
Dec 26th 2018
37
           Exactly, especially on Jordan Peele being accepted now
Dec 26th 2018
38
           or we're waiting to see the actual movie?
Dec 26th 2018
40
           the issues Peele brings up, in the preview and that repy #17
Dec 26th 2018
41
                No one is side stepping anything? We haven't seen themovie
Dec 26th 2018
42
                     I'm not critique-ing the movie, I'm saying what the "thrust" is
Dec 26th 2018
43
                     This the same nigga that basically said Lasik causes suicide
Dec 27th 2018
66
                          hmmmm....
Dec 27th 2018
68
           I am resistant to drawing conclusions with so little information. Even
Dec 27th 2018
72
           perception is perception
Dec 27th 2018
73
           Takes my 5 back... I don’t want no parts of what yall smoked.
Dec 28th 2018
79
great trailer
Dec 26th 2018
36
Who’s the little girl with the pigtails?
Dec 26th 2018
45
Slate.com analysis that Peele's "race" denials questionable - swipe
Dec 27th 2018
47
A think piece on a trailer?
Dec 27th 2018
48
If a denial seems shaky, because trailers are not designed by
Dec 27th 2018
49
      It’s not even a good trailer narratively so I have no clue
Dec 27th 2018
50
           Is the event where he made the denial supposed to sell the movie, too?
Dec 27th 2018
51
                That’s a question that if answered wouldn’t let you know anything
Dec 27th 2018
54
                     Tells me he's concerned about what his trailer is saying
Dec 27th 2018
57
                          k
Dec 27th 2018
59
you posting white people shit to defend your argument. you lost, bro.
Dec 27th 2018
52
      nah, I don't think so
Dec 27th 2018
55
it's so fucked up that some black people
Dec 27th 2018
53
Hmmm.....raises the question why Peele had that event
Dec 27th 2018
56
      I'm sorry they hurt you.
Dec 27th 2018
58
      The strangest of hills to die on.
Dec 27th 2018
60
      I don't think I'm dying
Dec 27th 2018
62
      you are?
Dec 27th 2018
61
           you doubt that a black man can tell the truth?
Dec 27th 2018
63
                My perceptiveness evaluates the evidence
Dec 27th 2018
64
                     what
Dec 27th 2018
65
                          yeah
Dec 27th 2018
67
                               your sentence is confusing.
Dec 28th 2018
92
                                    I'm evaluating what I see in the trailer
Dec 28th 2018
95
                                         yeah, its confusing. read it again.
Dec 28th 2018
99
                                         you think this sentence makes sense?
Dec 29th 2018
102
                                              Read what as what’s
Dec 30th 2018
120
                                                   maybe try reading again.
Dec 31st 2018
136
                                                        “You are?” = a question, not an accusation.
Jan 03rd 2019
147
                                                             it either is or it is not.
Jan 29th 2019
161
      RE: Hmmm.....raises the question why Peele had that event
Dec 30th 2018
127
           oh my bad no one told you definitively what jordan peele
Dec 31st 2018
141
my only issue is march freakin 15
Dec 27th 2018
75
and glass is out on jan 18, didn't even see that trailer until now...
Dec 28th 2018
90
I’ve Got 5 On It
Dec 28th 2018
77
It’s the destruction of our people due to ghoooost weeeeeeeed!!!!
Dec 28th 2018
78
RE: It’s the destruction of our people due to ghoooost weeeeeeeed!!!!
Dec 28th 2018
80
then why did the girl character bring up drugs and the father
Dec 28th 2018
81
It was in the trailer. No guarantee that it’s in the movie.
Dec 28th 2018
82
Two scenes from the Get Out trailer that didn’t make the movie
Dec 28th 2018
83
      41 trailer scenes that didn’t make the movie
Dec 28th 2018
84
           He can take whatever he wants out of the trailer. The fact that it was i...
Dec 28th 2018
86
                lol
Dec 28th 2018
89
                you just CANNOT admit to being wrong LMAO you worse than Trump
Dec 29th 2018
108
                     None of you know he’s wrong until the movie comes out
Dec 30th 2018
121
                          both of his "conclusions" have been addressed by the director.
Dec 30th 2018
129
                               Directors lie.
Dec 30th 2018
130
                               Not really.
Dec 30th 2018
133
what? you're drawing conclusions from that?
Dec 28th 2018
93
Yes, I'm drawing conclusions from that. The girl could have
Dec 28th 2018
94
      the scene wasn't about drugs.
Dec 28th 2018
100
did you even read?
Dec 28th 2018
96
      Well, at least you're not using race again to disqualify
Dec 28th 2018
97
That's one Illuminati ass answer
Dec 28th 2018
85
^^^part of the conspiracy
Dec 28th 2018
88
Ok I'll play, check the sample:
Dec 31st 2018
143
damn this post somehow became more entertaining than the trailer.
Dec 28th 2018
98
nah, we're supposed to tip-toe about our evaluations to not
Dec 29th 2018
103
      nah you're so supposed to admit you're wrong when you're proven wrong.
Dec 29th 2018
109
           see reply #110
Dec 29th 2018
111
A lot of you are shittin on c71 but..
Dec 29th 2018
110
See Post #77 and post #109
Dec 29th 2018
113
firing off the missiles because of a possible interpretation
Dec 29th 2018
114
      drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people
Dec 29th 2018
115
      RE: drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people
Dec 30th 2018
122
      RE: drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people
Dec 30th 2018
126
      nobody was asking for more interpretation
Dec 31st 2018
139
      People skip movies based on trailer interpretations all the time
Dec 30th 2018
119
      who the fuck said dude couldn't skip the movie?
Dec 31st 2018
137
           I never said anyone said he couldn't skip the movie.
Jan 03rd 2019
148
                he literally didn't say anything about skipping the movie
Mar 13th 2019
183
      No missiles needed I don’t care for any conflict..
Dec 30th 2018
125
           read what I said.
Dec 31st 2018
138
                RE: read what I said.
Dec 31st 2018
142
                     you should go back to lurking
Dec 31st 2018
144
                          RE: you should go back to lurking
Jan 01st 2019
145
I can’t believe what idiocy still exists on this site.
Dec 30th 2018
116
The whole point of trailers is to get people to see the film
Dec 30th 2018
123
Who’s saying that though
Dec 30th 2018
128
Looks bad, I'm out is as valid as saying Looks good, I'm in
Dec 30th 2018
132
      He didn't say Looks bad, I'm out, though.
Dec 31st 2018
134
           Because he said why he thought it would be bad?
Jan 03rd 2019
146
the part where you have to lie about what he said
Dec 31st 2018
140
      This is the second time in this thread that you brought up lying
Jan 04th 2019
149
           how is it personal to bring up a fact?
Jan 28th 2019
155
thanks spirit
Dec 30th 2018
124
You're WHITE, you don't get it and will never get it so don't even try.
Mar 11th 2019
176
      Huh?
Mar 24th 2019
243
fck I hate I read this thread now. Y'all suck the joy outta everything.
Jan 04th 2019
151
Fuck these weirdos bruh. That shit was hot
Jan 04th 2019
152
Goddamn this post is hot garbage.
Jan 04th 2019
153
“I can’t say it’s not specifically about race,….”
Jan 28th 2019
154
oh so where are the goalposts now?
Jan 28th 2019
156
      yeah, sure. I posted the Slate post that said it was a "stretching the.....
Jan 28th 2019
157
           I'm sorry you've confused me for someone who cares about you.
Jan 28th 2019
158
                :(
Jan 28th 2019
159
                     *hugs*
Jan 28th 2019
160
                          Thanks
Jan 29th 2019
162
Super Bowl Trailer
Feb 03rd 2019
163
The trailer is exactly 60 seconds
Feb 03rd 2019
164
      While we're at it, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO
Feb 04th 2019
165
      RE: While we're at it, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO
Feb 04th 2019
166
           The presence of some actual posters negated the need for that alias.
Feb 04th 2019
167
      *mind blown*
Feb 04th 2019
168
Reactions from premiere at SXSW
Mar 09th 2019
169
Wow I was completely expecting this dude to come back to earth
Mar 11th 2019
175
It's like I knew, but I never really knew okp niggas were this weird
Mar 10th 2019
173
OKP should be ashamed of itself...
Mar 10th 2019
174
yup
Mar 13th 2019
194
Thanks Boogie. Ready for more disagreements?
Mar 27th 2019
273
      Lol. Always, fam
Mar 30th 2019
279
I saw the movie last night. (No spoilers in this post.)
Mar 11th 2019
177
Does most of this pre-release convo in this post look silly after seeing...
Mar 12th 2019
178
      stares....legit torn between.....
Mar 12th 2019
179
      Eh... some of it? (some light spoilers within)
Mar 12th 2019
180
           Given your spoilers warning, I will not read until I see.
Mar 12th 2019
181
           To clarify, no *real* spoilers alove. (No spoilers in this reply.)
Mar 13th 2019
182
           Thanks for this, can't wait to see it
Mar 13th 2019
184
                do you need more than what was in the trailer?
Mar 13th 2019
185
                     Yes. You need more than the trailer to know what the movie is about.
Mar 13th 2019
                     Yes. You need more than the trailer to know what the movie is about.
Mar 13th 2019
186
                          If a theme is brought up "the enemy is 'Us' and the spectre of drugs
Mar 13th 2019
187
                               I've seen the movie. Drugs play no role in the film whatsoever.
Mar 13th 2019
188
                                    doesn't sound like comedy to me - nope
Mar 13th 2019
189
                                         Keep going
Mar 13th 2019
190
                                         I saw the trailer - a girl saying a song is about drugs sounds like
Mar 13th 2019
191
                                              Thank you for the lessons, never stop
Mar 13th 2019
192
                                                   yep
Mar 13th 2019
193
                                         ... okay? Well, the audience laughed hard at Duke's reply.
Mar 13th 2019
195
                                         nothing about drugs? Hmmm...when you're enemy is another version
Mar 13th 2019
196
                                              Dude, I SAW THE MOVIE. lol. (some very mild spoilers within)
Mar 13th 2019
197
                                                   Jekyll and Hyde involved serum/drugs, dude
Mar 13th 2019
198
                                                        So you didn't read my follow-up sentence, or any of the rest of it.
Mar 13th 2019
199
                                                             Frank at post #189 you should have seen this is a nonsense debate.
Mar 13th 2019
200
                                                             You mean post #7
Mar 17th 2019
204
                                                             Those "evolving" director's (Peele) quotes that we should accept
Mar 13th 2019
201
                                                                  You need a lady in your life.
Mar 13th 2019
202
                                         so basically, you were triggered
Mar 27th 2019
268
If nothing else, this movie gave us this:
Mar 17th 2019
203
thats hot
Mar 17th 2019
205
*speakers burned like the little kid's face*
Mar 18th 2019
206
Just saw the movie and I agree with everything Long said.
Mar 18th 2019
207
someone who can't tell what the director is trying to say looks....
Mar 18th 2019
208
It's DEFINITELY NOT saying anything your trying to push
Mar 18th 2019
209
      How can you be "definite" about what you "can't tell"?
Mar 18th 2019
210
           Holy fucking shit.
Mar 18th 2019
211
                uh....
Mar 18th 2019
212
survival, childhood trauma, leaving your demons behind you
Mar 23rd 2019
220
Trash.
Mar 21st 2019
213
dope
Mar 21st 2019
214
Well done, I enjoyed it. There's a hollowness here though.
Mar 22nd 2019
215
this
Mar 22nd 2019
217
Agreed
Mar 23rd 2019
218
      It was good it ain’t even close to Heredity level
Mar 30th 2019
293
Just saw it. Didn't really understand the meaning...
Mar 22nd 2019
216
Meh. Like 6-7 out of ten. Get out was written by his blakk side
Mar 23rd 2019
219
who gets more royalties... the luniz or club nouveau?
Mar 23rd 2019
221
I give it a solid B. Ending was eye roll inducing.
Mar 23rd 2019
222
this piece broke down a lot (nothing but spoilers)
Mar 23rd 2019
223
the Thriller t-shirt x MJ Thriller look into the camera at the end
Mar 23rd 2019
224
SPOILER RESPONSE to you
Mar 23rd 2019
225
that shit was trash (SPOILERS I guess)
Mar 23rd 2019
226
I took the clones as a metaphor potentially
Mar 23rd 2019
227
"black people wouldn't do that shit!" like what?
Mar 23rd 2019
228
      literally everything they did in the entire movie lol
Mar 23rd 2019
229
           Watching it right now. My wife gave up on it
Mar 23rd 2019
230
           right dawg...
Mar 23rd 2019
231
           Lot's of Black men aren't macho. That's a strange thing to
Mar 23rd 2019
232
           I feel like it’s more than that, I feel like it’s trying to drive...
Mar 24th 2019
237
           If you watch Duke's interviews, he's more Gabe than M'baku
Mar 26th 2019
266
           The Dad was goofy/comic relief, but he DID kill his fair
Mar 30th 2019
294
           Things evil lupita did, like getting out the car multiple times
Mar 23rd 2019
233
                Literally everything, from their family vacation decisions, to their...
Mar 24th 2019
236
                He was terrible.
Mar 24th 2019
239
                I guess, maybe, but none of that even entered my mind
Mar 25th 2019
249
                     much like the movie, you're trying to get too deep...
Mar 25th 2019
250
                     This movie is literally about 1.5% of black folks
Mar 25th 2019
251
Lots of words, not a lot of deeper analysis
Mar 24th 2019
234
      Exactly lol...
Mar 24th 2019
235
      plus when Adelaide initially meets Red as child in the funhouse...
Mar 24th 2019
238
           the jumpsuit came with the
Mar 25th 2019
246
      It’s ballet tho. You don’t have to snap on beat to do ballet.
Mar 24th 2019
240
           I'm sayin tho. Ballet ain't the electric slide or the cha cha.
Mar 25th 2019
245
Great film, tho a small (but important) part validates c71's suspicions
Mar 24th 2019
241
I don't think folks here are going to want to talk about that
Mar 24th 2019
242
A very good horror movie that falls apart.
Mar 24th 2019
244
One thing I still don't get (BIG SPOILER)
Mar 25th 2019
247
its so many holes in that damn movie and folks kill me trying to make...
Mar 25th 2019
248
Why did Adelaide have a connection to the shadow kids?
Mar 25th 2019
252
RE: Why did Adelaide have a connection to the shadow kids?
Mar 25th 2019
253
Oh shit. Great thought.
Mar 25th 2019
255
It"s funny that according to her
Mar 25th 2019
256
I think for the boy
Mar 25th 2019
254
      I wondered if he was
Mar 25th 2019
257
      Hmm. I guess if his clone was practicing that trick all this time
Mar 25th 2019
260
      kids of privilege get to opt out...
Mar 25th 2019
261
wasnt explained so choose your own adventure
Mar 25th 2019
258
      There's a theory that
Mar 27th 2019
270
I think it's powerful as a parable about survivor's guilt
Mar 25th 2019
259
appreciate the nostalgia with representation...
Mar 25th 2019
262
only the yt people at my job
Mar 25th 2019
263
In the end though what does it matter (SPOILER)
Mar 25th 2019
264
It matters because it explains why they rebelled in the first place
Mar 25th 2019
265
After all the interpretations have come in, the U.S. indictment narrativ...
Mar 26th 2019
267
lol
Mar 27th 2019
269
Be an adult, fam. Express your thoughts coherently.
Mar 28th 2019
275
oookay
Mar 27th 2019
271
As a creative you got to make a choice.
Mar 30th 2019
276
      Was this meant to be a reply to #241 ?
Mar 30th 2019
282
      the non-responses to reply #241 say all that need to be said
Mar 30th 2019
283
           It's definitely interesting and duly noted
Mar 30th 2019
286
      Also, he did say "African American" in the Rolling Stone interview
Mar 30th 2019
285
My take: It wasn't about race
Mar 27th 2019
272
Performing arts interpretation
Mar 28th 2019
274
I dug it (spoilers)/C71 I'm waiting for my "You was RIght"
Mar 30th 2019
277
oh, I'm supposed to believe folks didn't see reply #242
Mar 30th 2019
278
      Nigga you don't get to make 120 wrong post and point to one late ass
Mar 30th 2019
280
           TOKP reply is to ignore when I have support
Mar 30th 2019
281
                you're
Mar 30th 2019
284
                     So bwood (reply #207) is wrong too?
Mar 30th 2019
287
                          Here's a quote bwood said directly to you:
Mar 30th 2019
288
                               Yeah, well I included Peele on the "own worst enemy" thing
Mar 30th 2019
289
                                    But Peele never said black people are our own worst enemy.
Mar 30th 2019
290
                                         reply #17
Mar 30th 2019
291
"I don't see myself casting a white dude as the lead in my movie. Not th...
Mar 30th 2019
292
Two days later I want to change my review. It's deeper than I initially...
Mar 31st 2019
295
The Movie was not entertaing to me at all. What am i missing
Apr 01st 2019
296
Dope flick. *Really* like the multi-layered story this has
Apr 01st 2019
297
they had 'Pita's skin glowing in the first 1/4 of the movie
Apr 01st 2019
298
Saw it this weekend *Spoiler*
Apr 01st 2019
299
Someone has to mime
Apr 01st 2019
300
Finally saw this the other night and wow. C71 gets GD L of the year on t...
Apr 09th 2019
301
Yeah. Also, if the white family had shadow people
Apr 09th 2019
302
      but what was Peele saying with the opening family? With that father?
Apr 09th 2019
303
           your hands gotta be cramping up
Apr 10th 2019
304
           Nah, y'all couldn't and didn't address the points raised in
Apr 10th 2019
307
                Biggest L of GD in 2019
Apr 10th 2019
309
                     that father complaining about his wife nagging about 2 beers
Apr 10th 2019
310
                          You're right, that clearly makes it a film about Black self-destruction
Apr 11th 2019
316
                               how did the daughter get lost?
Apr 11th 2019
318
                                    Clearly a film about Black self-destruction
Apr 11th 2019
319
                                         A Black family going at version of themselves is self-destruction
Apr 11th 2019
321
                                              Clearly a film about Black self-destruction
Apr 11th 2019
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                                                   I state my case as always
Apr 11th 2019
324
           Horror movies would last 5 minutes/never get started
Apr 10th 2019
305
           I mean JP made clear he wants to use Black Characters/Actors
Apr 10th 2019
308
                then why didn't you reply to reply #241
Apr 10th 2019
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                It’s over - rdhull(c)
Apr 10th 2019
312
                then let the record show I was in it till the end and the
Apr 10th 2019
313
                     I’m going to play 241 in the pick 3
Apr 11th 2019
323
                          You said it was over, but as you see folks still want to battle
Apr 11th 2019
325
                I literally addressed that point in the post you just responded to
Apr 11th 2019
317
                     reply #276 is several days after reply #241 and reply #308 is
Apr 11th 2019
320
                          Lmao not days ago fam.
Apr 11th 2019
326
                          Now this phase: the supposedly "we" don't care yet reply
Apr 11th 2019
327
                               You making the bush look terrible
Apr 11th 2019
329
                          Wait you mad because I didn't state "in response to #241"
Apr 11th 2019
328
                               look right under the #328 on your reply- what does it say?
Apr 11th 2019
330
                it's bizarre. like, characters have to have flaws in order for there to ...
Apr 10th 2019
314
                     like reply #17 says, Peele said the "own worst enemy" was
Apr 10th 2019
315
           He was saying watch how I flip it so you think it’s the daughter
Apr 10th 2019
306
Up for no reason
Feb 27th 2020
331
It really sticks with you.
Sep 14th 2021
333

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1. "RE: Jordan Peele's Us"
In response to Reply # 0


          

Ok so this looks like its a well executed film. BUT.... I don’t really need black horror films as a genre. The only thing I want out of a horror flick is a compelling plot, good acting, and freakishly scary visuals. I don’t need my horror to speak to my cultural upbringing with Luniz references and HU sweaters. Get Out was lightning in a bottle. Let it live on it’s own.

Where I like to see us represented is in comedy and dramas. I’d rather see Peele put his energy into comedic projects, that offers a younger, more hip hop alternative to the brand of films that Tyler Perry puts out.

  

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2. "RE: Jordan Peele's Us"
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>Ok so this looks like its a well executed film. BUT.... I
>don’t really need black horror films as a genre. The only
>thing I want out of a horror flick is a compelling plot, good
>acting, and freakishly scary visuals. I don’t need my horror
>to speak to my cultural upbringing with Luniz references and
>HU sweaters. Get Out was lightning in a bottle. Let it live on
>it’s own.
>
>Where I like to see us represented is in comedy and dramas.
>I’d rather see Peele put his energy into comedic projects,
>that offers a younger, more hip hop alternative to the brand
>of films that Tyler Perry puts out.
>


We alredy have that. The horror genre is a long ass time coming and now its here.

  

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3. "TFW when the tokp response is the first response"
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4. "What makes this a black horror film?"
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From the preview, it looks like a horror movie where the main characters just happen to be black.

As black characters, they are probably going to live like black folks

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31. "*SMH* man even your conditioning has been conditioning. "
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In other words, you'd prefer if this movie starred.... white people?

Man please spend some time reading what you wrote here and analyze where it comes from.



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87. "RE: *SMH* man even your conditioning has been conditioning. "
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LMAO!!! That just came on before I came back in the office. "Good hair?..."

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46. "Someone prolly drove a dump truck full of 100 dollar bills to his house"
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like "make another one".

Can't blame the guy

  

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105. "Peele says this film isn't about race tho. "
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so is it technically "another one"?

Black Mirror has made dystopian horror wildly popular right now so I'm happy our folk are jumping in and staying in

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69. "There is zero shortage of black comedies and dramas."
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91. "Nope. I can't let this go."
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" I don’t need my horror to speak to my cultural upbringing with Luniz references and HU sweaters. Get Out was lightning in a bottle."

How else can I interpret this to mean that you would have no push back or issue if this was Paul Rudd wearing a Tufts sweatshirt and Steely Dan was the soundtrack?

Why is it featuring black actors and black signifiers and issue?


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112. "Exactly smh"
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101. "There are PLENTY of Black comedies and dramas spanning DECADES...."
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...but two Black horror flicks in recent years is just too much for you. Good grief.





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5. "Looks dope. "
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6. "Loved how they flipped I Got 5 On It!!! "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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8. "using African-American glorification of drug-use song to introduce"
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a film about Black self-destruction

  

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9. "You trying too hard. Merry Christmas. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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13. "Nothing in a film is by accident. To have a pro-drug song"
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in a movie about Black self-destruction AND having the pro-drug song the first thing in the preview is telling you what is the aim (the little girl actually tells her brother the song is about drugs).


The film is connecting "Us" Blacks to destruction and drugs.

  

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106. "have you seen the film?"
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74. "RE: using African-American glorification of drug-use song to introduce"
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11. "brilliant."
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131. "RE: Loved how they flipped I Got 5 On It!!! "
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That was the first thing I thought. That orchestral version bumps (slaps as the yungins say).

Here it is https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAPN5CGcQ0I

Did y'all peep that Lupita was off?

  

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7. "Since Peele is biracial, his first hit film critiqued White people"
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but now that he has to change up, he's making a film where Black people are completely/totally their own worst enemy.

uh....


See?

He's trying to show balance. Metaphorically making Black people the bad guy to their own selves.

  

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12. "Or let it actually come out and see what it's about. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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15. "It's too late. Peele is already established. There is no escape"
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Peele has been racial since Key & Peele. He went really racial with "get out"


He's taking his outsider status (exemplified by Arie Spears saying how much Peele ain't really Black - which Spears dialed back after "Get Out" was a hit) and turning it to Black people.


You can hope Peele ain't focusing his analysis on Black people, but that's just wishful thinking. He clearly is.

  

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17. "Us Trailer: Jordan Peele Explains Trailer (swipe)"
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http://collider.com/us-movie-trailer-explained-jordan-peele/#poster


Less than a year after winning an Oscar for Get Out, writer-director Jordan Peele introduced the trailer for his new horror movie Us to a select group of journalists last week in Los Angeles.

While the film has been shrouded in secrecy since it was first announced, Peele explained that Us stars Lupita Nyong’o and Winston Duke from Black Panther, as well as child actors Shahadi Wright Joseph (soon to be heard as young Nala in The Lion King) and Evan Alex. In the vaguest of terms, they play a family who encounter uninvited guests at their beach house. Emmy winner Elisabeth Moss (The Handmaid’s Tale) and Tim Heidecker co-star as family friends. It’s still unclear who Yahya Abdul-Mateen II (Aquaman) and Anna Diop are playing, but they co-star alongside Kara Hayward, Nathan Harrington and twins Cali and Noelle Sheldon, while Jack Nicholson‘s grandson Duke Nicholson also has a small role.

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Peele said it was important for him to cast a black family at the center of a horror movie, though he specifically said that unlike Get Out, his new film is “not about race.” Instead, Peele revealed that it’s “about something I feel has become an undeniable truth, and that is the simple fact that we are our own worst enemies.” That’s certainly what the copy in the trailer is emphasizing. While Peele may be steering clear of race this time around, Us still seems inherently political, as if Peele has fashioned a monster out of our inner demons and the darkest impulses that we keep repressed.

“I dedicated a lot of myself to creating a new horror mythology, and a new monster,” said Peele, who called Us “a labor of love.” Peele said he likes operating in the horror genre because it allows him to confront societal fears. Peele hopes the trailer will be a “nice, eerie, creepy-ass gift” for genre fans as they celebrate the holidays with their families. You’ve probably seen it by now, but if you’ve been too busy opening presents then CLICK HERE RIGHT NOW.

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The trailer opens with Duke and Nyong’o driving to their beach house with their daughter and young son, who is wearing a mask. The Luniz song “I Got Five On It” is playing over the car stereo. The family meets up with Moss and Heidecker on the beach and the boy wanders off, eventually crossing paths with a blood-soaked man carrying a pair of scissors. Later that night, the family is startled when another family appears menacingly in their driveway. “It’s probably the neighbors,” they think. But we soon come to learn that it’s not the neighbors. “It’s us.” Yes, it seems that the family is attacking itself. “They look like us. They think like us… and they won’t stop until they kill us, or we kill them.” Nyongo’s tells her son, “stick with me and I’ll keep you safe,” but of course, that’s easier said than done. I mean, how do you prevent your daughter from strangling herself? I can’t wait to see this movie, because the trailer left me with even more questions than I had when I knew nothing about Us.

After the trailer ended (to much applause from press), Peele ran out on the stage and pantomimed a mic drop before the studio played the trailer one more time. And then that was it. There was no Q&A with Peele. We still don’t know who wears the awesome glove as seen on the poster, nor do we know the significance of the scissors, the red robes, and what Universal and Peele have referred to as “the untethering.” Also… what’s with all the rabbits? We’ll just have to wait and see.

As I left the Universal lot, I couldn’t help but think to myself, ‘the Candyman remake is in good hands.’ Once you’ve seen the first trailer for Us, let me know what you think on Twitter and in the comments section below.

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18. ""the simple fact that we are our own worst enemies.""
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I didn't have to read that in the swipe you posted. I could tell that from the preview itself


but...


thanks for posting for the others to see.


I guess we don't have to wait and see now, do we?

  

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20. "No, Chief Queef, I guess we don’t. You solved it. Good job. "
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>I guess we don't have to wait and see now, do we?

Anything else I can dismiss out of hand?

  

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21. "yep, solved"
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yep

  

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22. "except he was talking about people in general"
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but go ahead.

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23. "for the 2nd time. Nothing in film is an accident. Nothing"
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If Peele wanted to, from the Velvet Underground to Iggy Pop to Nirvana, he could have had a white family listening to some drug referencing rock songs and had a white little girl tell her white little brother her parents white rock music was about drugs.


but....


It was a Black family having that discussing the first thing in the trailer ....in a movie about "we being our own worst enemy."


that is the point Peele is CHOOSING to make with the racial group he choose to cast (not by accident).


He's always been racial.

  

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24. "Nigga, I worked in film for years"
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So miss me with that shit.

I forgot I was talking to a dumb nigga who is too dumb to realize he's a dumb nigga.

Good luck with life

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25. "wishing and hoping it's not about what it's clearly showing"
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not a white family talking about drugged up Iggy Pop songs.

  

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29. "I'm waiting for the "I'm Jordan Peele" reveal..."
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Otherwise you sound like another lowest common denominator character that argues their opinions as facts.

  

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117. "People have been extrapolating film plots from trailers forever"
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And, for what it’s worth, I think C71’s educated guess of the theme of the movie is a decent theory, backed by the actual article above with the quote saying the film is about the enemy being “us”, in addition to what we can actually see on the screen in the trailer. As such, I am not interested in this film at all. I don’t think the enemy of black people is black people. We didn’t redline our own neighborhoods, refuse to hire ourselves for jobs, create food deserts in our communities etc. The premise is flawed if the premise is that black people are our own worst enemy. I won’t be buying a ticket, unless I get some information that indicates that there is an entirely different premise being presented. I’m not even sure a race neutral premise (the worst enemy of any person is themselves) works in the context of Black actors being cast as the leads in this film, considering things like Jim Crow, slavery, colonialism, etc.

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33. "Go even deeper"
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The song is called "I Got Five On It."

Which is five words long and also includes the number 5.

Five squared is 25.

Y is the 25th letter of the alphabet.

By including it in the trailer (and not just including it, but foregrounding it,) he's really using it to ask "why," as in "why do the absolute dumbest people on the internet insist on projecting their own weird bullshit on to a trailer for a movie they'll never see?"

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35. "lol"
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39. "lol"
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44. "lmao"
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76. "Haha "
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107. "i love you"
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150. "so mad I'm just now reading this thread! LOL!!!"
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171. "right?!? this reply was pure brilliance!"
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135. "Other than possibly having a different song playing, how would this trai..."
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Have been different if it starred a White family?

Substance abuse/domestic violence/greed or any other moral shortcoming that could potentially inferred from the small amount of footage we saw doesn't just affect Black people.

We know very little about what the film is going to be about, for all we know the evil clone family could be some aliens come to take over Earth.

A movie where all the protagonists have all of their shittogether, have no challenges to overcome and always do exactly what they're supposed to do would be a very boring movie

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332. "I wasn't THAT far off here"
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>We know very little about what the film is going to be about,
>for all we know the evil clone family could be some aliens
>come to take over Earth.
>


I was reminded of this picture after seeing a review on my current Youtube obsession channel

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70. "lol that is a funny theory but left something out."
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Peele stole this from Ice Cube, notice the title and the subject.

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71. "that Cube song is pretty racial. So......if you believe that song"
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and the Peele movie are connected, you got quite a few folks in here who want to believe that Peele "this movie ain't about race" denial to spar with.

  

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118. "“Not about race” meaning no white antagonists?"
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The Ice Cube song was the first thing I thought of after I watched the trailer. I was wondering where he was going with the title until I saw the doppelgängers and then I was like “yeahhh I’m not interested in this at all”

Interesting choice to make the male and female leads African nationals. Is he gonna go for an African nationalist angle that the continent’s “worst enemy” is themselves or are the doppelgängers supposed to be (metaphorically) African Americans? Y’all tell me when you see it because I won’t be.

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170. "winston duke aint african"
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he from TNT

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10. "Can we not over analzye this film to death before it comes out?"
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I know it's inevitable, but folks are going to read way too much into this movie like they did with "Get Out". Let this movie succeed or fail on its own merit of being an entertaining film. No need to psycho analyze every frame of film and be upset when the film isn't what you want it to be.

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16. "Peele has his focus. He just does. Had it with Key & Peele"
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And he clearly has it again here.


I don't want the film to be anything. He is focusing on Black self-destruction.

  

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172. "Yeah, seems that way don't it?"
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I hope it ain't that anti-Black, but I definitely see your interpretation

  

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104. "No!"
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14. "very interesting to see who is playing in these roles"
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doesn't appear to be very stereotypical (or is it?). can't wait to see what peele is
getting at with this one...Us? US? U.S.?

  

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19. "that orchestral flip of "I Got 5 On It" tho."
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26. "I hope that makes it into the score and isn’t just for the trailer"
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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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27. "That was hard"
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28. "Looks like it could be good, but let people be mad"
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30. "C71 is clearly right. Plus, people are going in on the fact"
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that most of the cast are black, not Black.

  

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32. ""Clearly"?"
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There is nothing that is clear about what this movie is about from the Trailer or Peele's statements about the movie.

But yall please, tell us more what this movie is about before it comes out so we can come back and clown yall when it finally drops.

Let the overanalyzing of this movie begin!!!!

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34. "This is worse than True Detective S1"
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When people lost their minds when it didn't address the imaginary conspiracies that only they could see.

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37. "Y'all are resisting this because you dont want the movie"
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to be about this, because that type of message is out of fashion with the black smart set nowadays. It's too close to pound cake speech/respectability politics stuff, which is anathema. And we all generally like Jordan Peele, so there's a cognitive dissonance now.

  

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38. "Exactly, especially on Jordan Peele being accepted now"
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which wasn't a given, especially when his peer Ari Spears had a lot of "he's an outsider" criticism of Peele.


The thing is Peele said in that swipe from reply #17 (that supposedly isn't making things somewhat clear) that he is bringing up psychology issues that people repress/deny/resist whatever. And.........with his own biracial history/perspective (he's said to have had words with Ari Spears after Spears said that critical stuff about him) it is pretty easy to see that Peele (yes, even if he is smart/skilled/talented enough to pull this "Us" film in a "murkier" direction/message) is talking about his OWN repressed/not wanting to be direct feelings about Black people.

That's why Peele denying it (film supposedly not about race) in that reply #17 swipe is sort of like him battling what he's repressing.


So this is pretty fascinating however this turns out.

  

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40. "or we're waiting to see the actual movie?"
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41. "the issues Peele brings up, in the preview and that repy #17"
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swipe.....


....are not issues you can just bring up and then side swipe them or push them under the rug.


The fact that the issues are brought up at all (with his biracial identity and history of racial commentary art) is clearly showing that those issues are a part of the film - esp. a film that is exploring repressed psychological issues that people don't want to face.

  

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42. "No one is side stepping anything? We haven't seen themovie"
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How can you critique something without actually seeing it? You're literally going off of a 3 minute trailer (Which btw, are designed not to give everything-especially key twists) away.

  

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43. "I'm not critique-ing the movie, I'm saying what the "thrust" is"
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the issues that are being "brought up" in the movie


Peele can make a great or terrible movie out of the issues in the movie, but the issues still are the issues.


The theme's brought up. The fact that his history makes Peele incapable of not saying something racial when there are clearly racial things in the trailer.

  

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66. "This the same nigga that basically said Lasik causes suicide"
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You gotta expect yo to jump out the window and make wild declarative statements without knowing everything

  

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68. "hmmmm...."
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I wonder......?

  

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72. "I am resistant to drawing conclusions with so little information. Even"
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if the movie turns out to be about what you say it is, it won't mean you were somehow right. It will only mean you were willing to draw conclusions earlier than I was.


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73. "perception is perception"
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Teknontheou agreed in reply #30


Slate.com agreed (reply #47 - which IkeMoses tried to dismiss because of the author's race in reply #52).


I'm satisfied

  

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79. "Takes my 5 back... I don’t want no parts of what yall smoked. "
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36. "great trailer"
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seems like it gives away a lot but for all we know the movie takes a whole different turn so not going to assume anything about it.

definitely looking forward to seeing it.

  

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45. "Who’s the little girl with the pigtails?"
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47. "Slate.com analysis that Peele's "race" denials questionable - swipe"
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"it nonetheless seems to be stretching the truth to say race doesn’t play a major part."


https://slate.com/culture/2018/12/jordan-peeles-us-trailer-race.html


BROW BEAT
In the Trailer for Jordan Peele’s Us, We Are Our Own Worst Enemy—Literally

By SAM ADAMS

DEC 26, 201812:39 PM



The week before Christmas, Jordan Peele took the unusual step of screening a trailer for his second movie, Us, to a small group of film writers in New York and Los Angeles. He didn’t seem entirely sure what he was doing there himself—why does a two-minute trailer designed to introduce audiences to a movie need its own introduction?—but since he was, he had one particular point he wanted to make: Unlike his Oscar-winning Get Out, he told his select audience, Us “is not about race.”

Based on the trailer, which has racked up almost 5 million YouTube views in the last day, that’s a claim that’s going to require some scrutiny. The movie centers on a family, composed of parents played by Winston Duke and Lupita Nyong’o, and their two children, who are menaced by their exact doppelgangers: four figures who appear out of the woods near their house and take on their forms, apparently intent on killing and replacing them. Duke’s character, clad in a Howard sweatshirt, brandishes a baseball bat and offers to “get crazy” with the half-seen intruders,” but the threat rings hollow: Whatever his origins, he’s now an upper middle class guy who owns a boat and has white friends (Elisabeth Moss and Tim Heidecker) who say things like “It’s vodka o’clock.” In the opening scene, Duke’s character is driving his family when Luniz’s weed-smoking anthem “I Got 5 on It” comes on the stereo. He proclaims it a “classic,” but his young son doesn’t know it at all, and when his wife tells the child to feel the song’s beat, she can’t quite seem to snap in time with it. When the intruders break into their home, Duke refers to them as “you people.”


According to Peele, the theme of Us is that “we are our own worst enemy,” which the movie appears to take to audaciously literal lengths. It looks scary as hell, and proves that the trend of slowing down songs to give trailers a little extra creepiness works for hip-hop as well as pop. Moreover, the list of movies Peele gave Nyong’o to prepare for the role includes some extremely exciting forbears—not just obvious progenitors like The Shining and Funny Games but The Babadook and the terrifying Korean ghost story A Tale of Two Sisters—none of which are in the allegorical “social horror” traditional in which Peele placed Get Out. (He’s apparently saving those stories for his Twilight Zone reboot.) But if it’s not a full-on parable about race in America, it nonetheless seems to be stretching the truth to say race doesn’t play a major part. (Merely casting Heidecker, who excels at embodying a form of oblivious white privilege, feels like a judgement.) Like any advance promotion, Peele’s statement seems to have more to do with how he hopes the movie will be talked about than the movie itself. Whether or not audiences and critics play along will be interesting to see.

  

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48. "A think piece on a trailer?"
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49. "If a denial seems shaky, because trailers are not designed by "
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accident, then yes, the denial will be examined.


Why would a director DESIGN a trailer that seemingly goes against his denial?


edit: It was not just a think piece on a trailer, it was also examining the "unusual" step of Peele trying to shape how the film will be received with that event that he held where Peele made the denial.

  

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50. "It’s not even a good trailer narratively so I have no clue"
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Maybe to sell a movie?

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51. "Is the event where he made the denial supposed to sell the movie, too?"
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?

  

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54. "That’s a question that if answered wouldn’t let you know anything "
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It’s not a full project at the moment.
It’s a movie trailer and some limited press. All parts of the movie promotion process.
The question you’re asking won’t be fully answerable until after the movie in total comes out.

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57. "Tells me he's concerned about what his trailer is saying"
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That's why the Slate.com piece noted that it was an "unusual" step to hold an event like that.

  

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59. "k"
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52. "you posting white people shit to defend your argument. you lost, bro."
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-30-
You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

  

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55. "nah, I don't think so"
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but nice try at deflection


yep

  

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53. "it's so fucked up that some black people"
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can see a black cast in a movie and immediately fear that the movie is saying bad shit about black people.



www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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56. "Hmmm.....raises the question why Peele had that event"
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to make that denial if the trailer wasn't saying something he was trying to dispel somehow.

  

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58. "I'm sorry they hurt you."
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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60. "The strangest of hills to die on. "
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62. "I don't think I'm dying"
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nope

  

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61. "you are?"
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hmmm........

  

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63. "you doubt that a black man can tell the truth?"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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64. "My perceptiveness evaluates the evidence"
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that's the way it goes with analyzing art and messages.


I don't deny what there due to wishful thinking of wanting a figurehead to be my spokesperson/idol.

  

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65. "what"
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67. "yeah"
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that

  

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92. "your sentence is confusing."
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what did you mean?

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95. "I'm evaluating what I see in the trailer"
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Peele fans here are ignoring what's in the trailer because (like Teknontheou said in reply #37) "we all generally like Jordan Peele, so there's a cognitive dissonance now"


I'm evaluating what's in the trailer


Peele fans are saying what's in the trailer doesn't matter because the movie could have more scenes that somehow disqualify what's in the trailer.


My sentence wasn't confusing at all.

  

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99. "yeah, its confusing. read it again."
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so, you gathered that this movie is about self-destruction. fine. maybe it is. maybe it isn't.

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102. "you think this sentence makes sense?"
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"I don't deny what there due to wishful thinking of wanting a figurehead to be my spokesperson/idol."


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120. "Read what as what’s"
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That sentence makes sense.

He’s saying he won’t denying what he sees in the trailer (black people faced with a mortal enemy that is a variation of themselves) because he thinks Peele would not follow through on such a self-defeating premise after making a film like Get Out. At this point, all we have is theories. And C71’s theory is decent enough. So good that no one in this thread has offered any ideas of other potential premises based on what we have seen so far. If the premise isn’t what C71 thinks it is, what do y’all think the movie will be about? Trailers are designed to stir up fan interest and get you wondering what a film is about. No one has a different theory?

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136. "maybe try reading again."
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the black man he accused of lying was me.

but go on and type more paragraphs

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147. "“You are?” = a question, not an accusation. "
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How you jumped from being asked a question to saying you were being called a liar is beyond me.

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161. "it either is or it is not. "
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127. "RE: Hmmm.....raises the question why Peele had that event"
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>to make that denial if the trailer wasn't saying something he
>was trying to dispel somehow.


I just made a similar point.. I wonder why you didn’t get an actual answer?

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141. "oh my bad no one told you definitively what jordan peele"
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is thinking, since we're all directly connected to his brain and can speak for him.

how do y'all cross the street without getting hit by buses?

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75. "my only issue is march freakin 15"
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forget the box office hype and just put in on netflix/demand...

a quiet place could have been a black family

maybe even heredity, if it was about like voodoo instead or something...

  

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90. "and glass is out on jan 18, didn't even see that trailer until now..."
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77. "I’ve Got 5 On It "
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‪Wait! Jordan Peele picked “I’ve Got 5 On It” because he thought it was a dope track and not some deeper meaning of Black folks’ fascination with drug culture making us our own worst enemy as Think Piece Twitter would have us to believe?‬

https://ew.com/trailers/2018/12/25/us-movie-trailer-jordan-peele/

“ENTERTAINMENT WEEKLY: Why did you decide to use Luniz’s “I Got 5 On It”:


JORDAN PEELE: That song, it came pretty simple, I’m making a movie in Northern California, that’s a bay area hip-hop classic and I wanted to explore this very relatable journey of being a parent maybe some of the songs you listened to back in the day aren’t appropriate for your kids. So that was one level, and another part was, I love songs that have a great feeling but also have a haunting element to them and I feel like the beat in that song has this inherent cryptic energy, almost reminiscent of the Nightmare on Elm Street soundtrack. So those were the ideas that that song hit the bullseye on for me, and also, it’s just a dope track.”

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78. "It’s the destruction of our people due to ghoooost weeeeeeeed!!!!"
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That flip was disgustingly dope

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80. "RE: It’s the destruction of our people due to ghoooost weeeeeeeed!!!!"
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the ghooouullish doobie!!

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81. "then why did the girl character bring up drugs and the father"
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react to what the girl said?

That didn't have to be included in the script - but it was.

  

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82. "It was in the trailer. No guarantee that it’s in the movie. "
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Nor the song.
Have you ever watched a movie?
You recognize they’re different from the movie trailers right?

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83. "Two scenes from the Get Out trailer that didn’t make the movie "
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https://bloody-disgusting.com/movie/3425931/coolest-get-out-scenes-missing-jordan-peele/

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84. "41 trailer scenes that didn’t make the movie "
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https://www.denofgeek.com/uk/movies/movies/47071/41-trailer-scenes-that-didn-t-make-the-final-film

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86. "He can take whatever he wants out of the trailer. The fact that it was i..."
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the trailer and the FIRST thing in the trailer says it's relevance.

  

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89. "lol"
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108. "you just CANNOT admit to being wrong LMAO you worse than Trump"
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you keep pivoting and twisting and turning and call it "critical analysis" lol

go sit the fuck down some where.

in fact, how about sitting your dumb ass in front of the actual movie.

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121. "None of you know he’s wrong until the movie comes out"
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You’re jumping to a conclusion as much as he is if you say his theory is definitively wrong when none of us have seen the film yet.

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129. "both of his "conclusions" have been addressed by the director."
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130. "Directors lie."
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133. "Not really."
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C71 seems to be saying he thinks the premise is "the worst enemy for black folk is black folk"

Where did Peele explicitly say "this movie is NOT about the worst enemy of black folk being black folk"?

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93. "what? you're drawing conclusions from that?"
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the girl is older and knows the track is about drugs. the son is younger and the father doesn't want to have that discussion with him at that moment. I've done this with my own kids and I'm sure other folks have as well.

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94. "Yes, I'm drawing conclusions from that. The girl could have "
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been preoccupied with a tablet and some headphones.


No scene has to have an exchange about drugs.

There was that exchange because the writer WANTED an exchange about drugs to be in the movie.

  

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100. "the scene wasn't about drugs. "
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the scene was about the interaction with the sis, bro, and pops discussing the song.

prolly getting into symantics and minutia at this point.

who said they put the scene in by mistake? nobody. this is more about you seeming to paint a whole movie, that's 3 months away, based on a trailer. trailers are meant to throw you off, but you can cook tho.

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96. "did you even read?"
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“I wanted to explore this very relatable journey of being a parent maybe some of the songs you listened to back in the day aren’t appropriate for your kids.“

stop it. get some help.

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97. "Well, at least you're not using race again to disqualify "
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evaluations.

  

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85. "That's one Illuminati ass answer"
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88. "^^^part of the conspiracy"
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143. "Ok I'll play, check the sample:"
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"Why you treat me so bad" - Club Noveau

A typical response to feeling betrayed by your own community?

Taking shots in the dark/that's a bad call
Going straight for your head/ gotta saw it off

  

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98. "damn this post somehow became more entertaining than the trailer."
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103. "nah, we're supposed to tip-toe about our evaluations to not"
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seem too "whatever"....on a messageboard.


yep

  

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109. "nah you're so supposed to admit you're wrong when you're proven wrong."
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You were proven wrong multiple times in the post.

like, dude its ok to be wrong. it doesn't make you a bad person or not smart.

its ok to be like, ok i interepreted something one way, but actually it wasn't that. cool

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111. "see reply #110"
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yep

  

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110. "A lot of you are shittin on c71 but.."
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I can see what he’s getting at.

I watched the trailer and loved it. I caught the Luniz reference, which I suspected was put in the movie as a reference to black folk and the(supposed) glamorisation of drug culture.

I’ve heard the tag line about we are our own worst enemy and I immediately thought to myself that I hope they tread carefully with this line of black critique as I don’t need the average white person pointing the finger back at us on some ‘you destroying yourselves’ shit!

I get what Peele has said in that it’s about the universal ‘us’, but that still doesn’t mean he isn’t using the black experience for this metaphor even though the bigger picture is supposedly not race.

Only time will tell and I look forward to watching it.

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113. "See Post #77 and post #109"
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I'm gonna take a guess and say unlike c71 you could at least wait for the movie to make a definitive statement though.

  

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114. "firing off the missiles because of a possible interpretation"
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based on "you are your own worst enemy" and a black cast

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115. "drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people"
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For the past several decades, any time the conditions of the Black community is discussed, the phrase "proliferation of drugs" is usually brought up. Hip-hop particularly is viewed as very drug-oriented.

Birdzeye wrote:

"I suspected was put in the movie as a reference to black folk and the(supposed) glamorisation of drug culture."


When drugs are brought up (first thing in the trailer) and the theme is revealed ("own worst enemy")....


...it doesn't seem believable that those things ("drugs" "own worst enemy") are unrelated.

  

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122. "RE: drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people"
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>For the past several decades, any time the conditions of the
>Black community is discussed, the phrase "proliferation of
>drugs" is usually brought up. Hip-hop particularly is viewed
>as very drug-oriented.
>
>Birdzeye wrote:
>
>"I suspected was put in the movie as a reference to black folk
>and the(supposed) glamorisation of drug culture."
>
>
>When drugs are brought up (first thing in the trailer) and the
>theme is revealed ("own worst enemy")....
>
>
>...it doesn't seem believable that those things ("drugs" "own
>worst enemy") are unrelated.
>

I’m not so sure, based on everything I know about this film so far, that drugs will play much of a role at all. I was thinking he might be more commenting on the perceived negativity of certain hiphop content with that scene (hiphop being created by us and purportedly hurting us, according to one common line of argument), but we are all guessing at this point. Someone cited a quote above from Peele saying why he did used that specific song, but artists sometimes deflect (actual or potential) criticism by attributing neutral motives to artistic decisions (“I didn’t do x because of y, I did it because of w”), so who knows?

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126. "RE: drugs are not a neutral reference when it comes to Black people"
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>I’m not so sure, based on everything I know about this film
>so far, that drugs will play much of a role at all. I was
>thinking he might be more commenting on the perceived
>negativity of certain hiphop content with that scene (hiphop
>being created by us and purportedly hurting us, according to
>one common line of argument), but we are all guessing at this
>point. Someone cited a quote above from Peele saying why he
>did used that specific song, but artists sometimes deflect
>(actual or potential) criticism by attributing neutral motives
>to artistic decisions (“I didn’t do x because of y, I did
>it because of w”), so who knows.


^^^^ Yes I can certainly see your interpretation which adds a bit more nuance.

I guess my observation would still be relevant with your explanation, which is that it still implies the ‘self destructive elements of the community are destroying us’ angle is implied in the trailer and tagline.

For me this is an initial impression from a short trailer and it in fact had me intrigued to see where they would take this movie.


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139. "nobody was asking for more interpretation"
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119. "People skip movies based on trailer interpretations all the time"
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Trailers are meant to hint at what a film will be about to pique your interest. People then decide whether they are excited about the forthcoming movie or if they will skip it, often based on the trailer. I don’t know why so many people in this thread are acting like this is a new (or even controversial) idea?

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137. "who the fuck said dude couldn't skip the movie?"
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show me anyone who said he couldn't skip viewing the movie for any made up reason he might have, so that your comment will be relevant.

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148. "I never said anyone said he couldn't skip the movie. "
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Reread what I wrote again.

Why are you asking a question about something I never wrote? I never said anyone on here said he couldn’t skip the movie. So why are you talking about that?

That’s like me replying to you “who the fuck said a film is a tomato?” when you never brought up tomatoes at all. And why did you put the extra profanity on it like you’re hype enough to fight me? LOL. Relax.

Dude gave his REASON for why he would skip the movie and people jumped all over the reason. When really you shouldn’t even give a fuck what reason he chose to not see a movie. What are you gonna do, convince him that his theory about what a movie might be about is wrong before either of you see the movie? At most, you could say “I think that theory doesn’t work because blah blah and here is my theory about what the film may really be about.” Then you all can debate what in the trailer supports your respective theory. But all this name calling when someone is basically just saying “the film looks like it might be about this and I’m not interested in that?” Ridiculous. The whole “you have to watch the entire movie before you form any opinion” line is tired, trailers actually exist to drum up excitement for a movie. The whole purpose of trailers is to get you to form a (hopefully positive) opinion of a film before it is released. For some people, trailers have the opposite effect and they cause those people to form a negative opinion of a film before it’s released. It’s pretty straightforward. Some people try to figure out what movies are about based on trailers.

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183. "he literally didn't say anything about skipping the movie"
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you didn't even read his original reply.

he just decided he knew what the movie is about -- based on absolutely nothing.

everything you wrote is irrelevant.

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125. "No missiles needed I don’t care for any conflict.."
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All I’m saying is that based off the trailer, C71’s presumption’s are not so out there as to be implausible or stupid. I got a similar impression without me looking for such an angle. The trailer and promotion (and past exposure to own worst enemy politics) seemed to hand that to me.

And plus the fact that Peele has clarified to say it’s not about race when he refers to ‘us’
suggests that people could have (misguidedly?) reached that conclusion.

Are you really saying that you can’t see how this conclusion could be reached (especially after the rational has been outlined), even if it’s a premature/incorrect one?









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138. "read what I said."
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respond to what I said, not what you want to believe I said.

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142. "RE: read what I said."
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Just did..

My comment still stands so feel free to answer it or just continue be obtuse around any questions you can’t seriously answer....

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144. "you should go back to lurking"
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145. "RE: you should go back to lurking"
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I might just do that.

Just know that I could spot that you were an agenda filled jerk even from my lurking spot!

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116. "I can’t believe what idiocy still exists on this site. "
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Mind blowing.

Jordan Peele is mindful of trailers. The proof of that is his argument with the studio over Get Outs trailer. Now as an Oscar winning filmmaker he has total control over what’s in the trailer, and he’s likely using it as a misdirect. Regardless...judging anything based off a preview is at minimum horribly stupid.

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123. "The whole point of trailers is to get people to see the film"
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How is it idiotic to not want to see a film based on a trailer, but not idiotic to be excited to see a film based on a trailer? If C71 said “this trailer is great, I can’t wait to see it” would you reply “this is only a trailer, you idiot, the real movie could be completely different, so don’t get excited yet”?

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128. "Who’s saying that though"
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“Looks good, I’m in” is far different than talking about the themes of the movie so...what’s your point again?

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132. "Looks bad, I'm out is as valid as saying Looks good, I'm in"
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Either position is based on incomplete info. Either position is valid.

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134. "He didn't say Looks bad, I'm out, though. "
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He analyzed and critiqued an entire film based on the trailer.

  

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146. "Because he said why he thought it would be bad?"
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Now you can only say you think a film might be bad, but you can’t provide a rationale for why you think it might be bad?

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140. "the part where you have to lie about what he said"
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is the tell.

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149. "This is the second time in this thread that you brought up lying"
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I think you’re taking this whole thing too personally? I’m not sure who you’re trying to call a liar here? It can’t be me. I don’t know you. You don’t know me. I don’t lie and I’m sure not going to start lying to win an “argument” on the Internet. Maybe you and C71 have some personal issue I don’t know about. I don’t know either one of you from a can of paint. Anyway, I made my point as clearly as I could. I’m out.

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155. "how is it personal to bring up a fact?"
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just don't lie.


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124. "thanks spirit"
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>Regardless...judging anything based off a preview is at
>minimum horribly stupid.

yeah, spirit's reply, dude.

  

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176. "You're WHITE, you don't get it and will never get it so don't even try."
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Most black people don't even get it.

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243. "Huh?"
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What’s that got to do with anything I said?

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151. "fck I hate I read this thread now. Y'all suck the joy outta everything."
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152. "Fuck these weirdos bruh. That shit was hot"
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and I can’t wait to see it and find it wtf it may be about.

The Lasik causes suicide dude is different.

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153. "Goddamn this post is hot garbage. "
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my first post of 2019.

this is why it's hard to make art once you have a few hits under your belt. everyone has an opinion on everything before even seeing the final product.

let that shit breathe. Go see the movie in a black theatre and chill out on the woke hateration.

I'm not addressing any one specifically but rather the chatter about what Peele might or might not be saying and if its even ok that hes doing what hes doing.

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154. "“I can’t say it’s not specifically about race,….”"
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"although it does tackle race.............."

Meaning, Jordan was initially trying to dispel what was obvious and now he is admitting it, like some of us knew that he HAD to.

And some said we were calling him a liar when we said it obviously was about race.



https://www.okayplayer.com/culture/how-is-us-get-out-different-jordan-peele.html

Jordan Peele Explains How 'Us' And 'Get Out' Are Different And Why Horror Movies Are Important

POSTED BY ELIJAH C. WATSON

In a new interview, Peele described Us as a “horror film without any caveats.”

Jordan Peele‘s forthcoming new film Us will be making its premiere at South by Southwest in March and the director has recently offered some more details on the inspiration behind the movie.
WATCH: The Terrifying First Trailer For Jordan Peele’s New Film ‘Us’
Speaking with Empire via Pursue News, Peele discussed the differences between Us and 2017’s acclaimed Get Out, as well as what sparked the idea of the former film.

Peele said that Us came about when he began “to follow the thread of ‘we are our own enemy.'” When asked about the “we” he was referring to, Peele said that the movie is answering that question while adding: “I can’t say it’s not specifically about race, but I don’t want to go too deep into its meaning because it’s there for everybody to discover on their own.”

He also described Us as a “horror film without any caveats,” and although it does tackle race it also tackles how the movie industry views race.

“There hasn’t been a horror film about a black family, that I can remember. I think that’s an important thing to note. We have a lot of films in this genre where a family meets a monster, but the fact we’ve never seen a black family in that situation is a problem to me,” Peele said. “There’s a presumption in the industry that if black people are the leads in a film it has to be in some way about race. I wanted to show that we can push past that.”
And as for why he thinks the horror films are important, Peele had this to say: “They’re ways that we as a society face our fears. Personally, they serve as a way for me to acknowledge the dark thoughts floating inside of me.”

The story can be read in its entirety in the latest issue of Empire.

  

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156. "oh so where are the goalposts now?"
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look, you're a lying shit with no logic or sense of integrity so I wouldn't expect you to be any different.

but if you didn't lie then we could all be more efficient about this.

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157. "yeah, sure. I posted the Slate post that said it was a "stretching the....."
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...truth to say the film race doesn't play a major part"


and what was the reaction to the Slate.com swipe in post #47?


Why wasn't I accused of moving the goalposts with the Slate.com swipe in reply #47?

  

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158. "I'm sorry you've confused me for someone who cares about you."
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159. ":("
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hrumph!

  

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160. "*hugs*"
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162. "Thanks"
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somebody likes me **smiles***

  

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163. "Super Bowl Trailer"
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Us - In Theaters March 22 (Nightmare)

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164. "The trailer is exactly 60 seconds"
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and there are FOUR family members
60 + 4 = 64
In Super Mario 64 you can take a MUSHROOM that turns you into METAL
This whole movie is about how drugs turn families into robots, presented as a POSITIVE. Why is Jordan Peele furthering the Robot Agenda?

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165. "While we're at it, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO"
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Mario parts 4-63?!?!

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166. "RE: While we're at it, WHATEVER HAPPENED TO"
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What happened to Loud But Wrong Guy, for that matter?

  

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167. "The presence of some actual posters negated the need for that alias."
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168. "*mind blown*"
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169. "Reactions from premiere at SXSW"
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https://io9.gizmodo.com/jordan-peeles-us-just-premiered-at-sxsw-heres-what-peo-1833167275

  

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175. "Wow I was completely expecting this dude to come back to earth"
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Like it would have been too much to expect him to deliver a movie on Par with Get Out so if this movie had more mixed reviews, that would have made sense and be expected.

If it turns out he kills it the way these early reviews are coming in, then yeah, dude is on a whole other level.


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173. "It's like I knew, but I never really knew okp niggas were this weird"
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174. "OKP should be ashamed of itself..."
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as a majority black site, jumping all over themselves to cosign a white dude for clowning a black man for attempting to counter white supremacist messaging in any area of society. Shout out to Atillah Moor who doesn't seem to post here anymore, and who I constantly disagreed with, but at least he was trying to grow in all the ways he countered racism, and I respect that. It's really all you can ask. Unlike alotta yall who will cosign anything white folks tell you is the bee's knees. If we had it so figured out, we wouldn't be dealing with all we're dealing with.


Yo, c71...

I remember you telling me that I had to leave this board, because I said cops wouldn't respect our lives until they started losing their own for taking ours. You've never had my back when I stood up for us in analyzing all the ways white supremacy operates.

However, I ain't a sucka ass nigga, so I will say that your observation is interesting and shouldn't be immediately dismissed. In all honesty, when I first saw the trailer, I didn't even consider the "we're our own worst enemy" narrative, so thank you bringing it up. IF this is indeed his angle, Idk if it's due to him being biracial or because Hollywood put the pressure on him. BUT, having seen Get Out, I know that he's shown that he can make a layered film. This is important, because if he felt pressured to address Black people being enemies of self, then this could possibly be a clever way to make it look like he's saying they are, but isn't actually saying that. If the need to say it is coming from within himself, he'll present much that's up for interpretation if Get Out is any indication.
Now, with all this giving him the benefit of the doubt, I have to point out that he was involved with the inaccurate, lying abomination known as BlacKKKlansman, so I won't be surprised if Us is partially or completely against the best Black interests.

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194. "yup"
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273. "Thanks Boogie. Ready for more disagreements?"
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279. "Lol. Always, fam"
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177. "I saw the movie last night. (No spoilers in this post.)"
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From my PTP review: It's very fun. Plenty of scares and laughs, little puzzle pieces of foreshadowing sprinkled throughout, the actors are dynamite, it's gorgeously shot, and the music is fantastic. Peele's basically playing with Spielberg, Shyamalan, and Haneke all rolled into one here-- which are definitely good thriller directors to use as reference points. Like Get Out, it hits its crowd-pleasing beats beautifully.

One complaint: it's *way* less specific thematically than Get Out... to the point where I'm not sure if Peele even has a specific theme in mind here. It felt at times like he was tossing a lot at the wall to see what stuck. Get Out was incredibly tight-- that was one idea beautifully fleshed out, and here we've got a bunch of allusions and references without that clear through-line. I don't mind the ambition-- it's still an insanely fun flick, and the broadness will certainly allow people to project their own personal stuff into the movie-- but don't go in expecting something as tight as Get Out.

Still, no sophomore slump here. He's constructed another big-hit horror flick here. It honestly has a *very* Twilight Zone vibe, so it also serves to make me more excited for Peele's Twilight Zone reboot too.

And if anyone wants questions answered re: specific material/themes/etc, I'm happy to give my thoughts on those. Those may or may not verge into spoiler territory, though.

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178. "Does most of this pre-release convo in this post look silly after seeing..."
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the film, or is the film so thematically lose that bone heads will have straws to grasp to argue they were right all along?


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179. "stares....legit torn between....."
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>RE: Does most of this pre-release convo in this post look silly after seeing
>the film, or is the film so thematically lose that bone heads
>will have straws to grasp to argue they were right all along?

"that's bait" and moving on

and

"that is a perfect example of commentary thinly wrapped in question clothes" then discussing (or attempting to) motive

its early though....



  

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180. "Eh... some of it? (some light spoilers within)"
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*** to clarify before you read, this will contain *some* spoilers, though I'll avoid anything from the back half of the movie, and these are likely things you could've figured out from the trailer with a close watch ***

The idea that it's about how black people are their own worst enemies... yeah, that's a really tough one to take away from this, considering it's not only black people who have doubles in this film. I don't want to dive too far into the details, but it's definitely about everyone irrespective of race. One could *easily* argue it's about class, perhaps, or about political affiliation. Mass groups of people who are frightened of those on the other side.

Now, that doesn't mean there's *nothing* about race here. Some of the imagery presented is definitely given more weight because the main family is black-- you have a large black man as an inarticulate, screaming thug, you have black children scampering on all fours and climbing trees, acting as animals. But this is part of the issue I have with the lack of clear through-line-- it's hard to pin down how this ties to the rest of it. Maybe he's playing on America's stereotypes of black people-- but then again, as mentioned before, we also get plenty of weird double action with non-black people, and are those doubles playing stereotypes? Very unclear. Maybe he's playing on horror archetypes in general-- Lord knows the huge inarticulate man and the animalistic children are archetypes we've seen before with white killers in horror films, so he's giving us black versions of these types to even the playing field? Maybe he's just saying that all of our "dark sides" are similar-- men are inarticulate and violent, children are crazed and out of control, etc. Maybe he's trying to evoke all of these things without focusing on any of them in particular to let us take what we want-- which feels like a bit of a cop out after something as thematically tight as Get Out, but which doesn't make the movie any less fun.

There's other imagery toward the end that I don't really want to get into, as it'd be even more spoilery, and then there's a big reveal that definitely affects this conversation as well that I'd also rather not go into... but regarding your question of "could people project whatever theme they want onto this movie?" My gut says "yes, but they couldn't argue that their version carries through the whole film." I definitely had a couple of thoughts leaving the theaters as to "what is this movie about?" that fell apart when I tried to tie everything to those themes. So I don't doubt that Peele is using a *lot* of things here to try to tell his fun horror story... but the question of "is it about X?" isn't going to have a definitive answer imo.

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181. "Given your spoilers warning, I will not read until I see. "
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182. "To clarify, no *real* spoilers alove. (No spoilers in this reply.)"
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I reveal one or two things that could certainly be inferred from the trailer, imo. Nothing overly serious, and nothing from the back half of the film.

That said, I know some people want to go in *completely* cold. Hence my warning.

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184. "Thanks for this, can't wait to see it"
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Don't spoil how many Weed Drugs are in it please.

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185. "do you need more than what was in the trailer?"
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More than the trailer will prove what Jordan REALLY means?

Or.....


We'll ignore the trailer as an "aberration" (even though it's the trailer).

  

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"Yes. You need more than the trailer to know what the movie is about. "


  

          


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186. "Yes. You need more than the trailer to know what the movie is about. "
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187. "If a theme is brought up "the enemy is 'Us' and the spectre of drugs "
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are raised.....however briefly lightly...


....You have to be "wishful thinking" to not connect that.

If the conversation of drugs is brought up, and then the movie ascends (not descends) into a fun-filled paradise, then you could possibly say the drug conversation and the ensuing paradise were not connected.

  

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188. "I've seen the movie. Drugs play no role in the film whatsoever."
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The "conversation" from the trailer (two lines) is exactly how it plays in the movie. It's a moment of comedic relief.

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189. "doesn't sound like comedy to me - nope"
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nope

  

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190. "Keep going"
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191. "I saw the trailer - a girl saying a song is about drugs sounds like "
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raising the issue of drug glorification to me.


Where was the punchline in a girl telling her younger sibling that a song that her parents like is about drugs?


That suggests a girl becoming jaded to the ways of adults, unless you think a young girl realizing her parents like songs that reference drug use is funny or comedic.

I kept going.

  

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192. "Thank you for the lessons, never stop"
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193. "yep"
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yep

  

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195. "... okay? Well, the audience laughed hard at Duke's reply."
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And then there's absolutely nothing about drugs, even as a metaphor or allegory or anything else, in the film.

So take that for what you will!

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196. "nothing about drugs? Hmmm...when you're enemy is another version"
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of yourself......uh....that has been a theme connected to drug use in culture before?


uh......


You've never heard of a cultural touchstone where drugs are the culprit to making someone a "different person" yet that's still the same person?


"Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" perhaps?

  

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197. "Dude, I SAW THE MOVIE. lol. (some very mild spoilers within)"
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>of yourself......uh....that has been a theme connected to
>drug use in culture before?
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>uh......
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>You've never heard of a cultural touchstone where drugs are
>the culprit to making someone a "different person" yet that's
>still the same person?
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>"Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde" perhaps?

Just because you use a bunch of ellipses and say "uh" patronizingly doesn't mean you're right and I'm the idiot. So don't treat me like an asshole when I'm trying to answer questions here.

As I said above in my answer that you seemingly didn't read, I'm sure you could find a way to "project" most anything into the film. It's very broad thematically. And yes, there are broad Jekyll and Hyde allusions at play, obviously, in the sense that Peele is exploring duality.

But the Hydes here are external, not internal, for a reason-- which is a hugely key difference. And the Hydes aren't relegated to just one race or one class, every single person in the country has one. We spend real time seeing white people attacked by their own doubles in the film. I could go more in depth into this, but I won't to avoid spoilers-- suffice it to say, the movie makes it very explicit that this is not a specific race problem or a specific group problem.

While you can find imagery, lines, scenes, etc. specific to make this setup in the film about class, political affiliation, Trumpism, etc.-- broader things that divide us in this world today-- you have to strain to make this movie about some specific drug-related read in any way. However people read this film, it'll have to be about something that divides the country irrespective of gender, race, or age. Because if you try to narrow it down, there's going to be a ton of stuff in the film that simply doesn't work for your read.

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198. "Jekyll and Hyde involved serum/drugs, dude"
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>And yes, there are broad Jekyll and Hyde allusions at play, obviously, in the sense that Peele is exploring duality.

  

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199. "So you didn't read my follow-up sentence, or any of the rest of it."
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I'm still not even sure what your agenda is here, that you were a dick to someone who saw the movie and was trying to explain what's in it. What's there to gain here? Do you want me to just spoil the whole movie so you can try to justify how the film is about drugs? I mean, you've had people quote the director and describe the actual film and you've replied to them like *they're* stupid for suggesting you may be off-base. I just do. not. get it.

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200. "Frank at post #189 you should have seen this is a nonsense debate. "
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So everything after that is on you. LOLOLOL.


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204. "You mean post #7"
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201. "Those "evolving" director's (Peele) quotes that we should accept"
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....whenever they "change" that is:


Reply #17

Peele said it was important for him to cast a black family at the center of a horror movie, though he specifically said that unlike Get Out, his new film is “not about race.”


Reply #154

When asked about the “we” he was referring to, Peele said that the movie is answering that question while adding: “I can’t say it’s not specifically about race, but I don’t want to go too deep into its meaning because it’s there for everybody to discover on their own.”

  

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202. "You need a lady in your life. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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268. "so basically, you were triggered"
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yea, that's a great foundation for declarative statements

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203. "If nothing else, this movie gave us this:"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FBcTJ5ADFIM

So for that he's good money in my book.

Hope the Luniz get some nice checks out of this

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205. "thats hot"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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206. "*speakers burned like the little kid's face*"
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207. "Just saw the movie and I agree with everything Long said."
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Hotep ass nigga looks dumb as fuck in this thread.

With that said I don't know what exactly Peele is trying to say here outside of we are our own worst enemy.

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208. "someone who can't tell what the director is trying to say looks...."
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.....?

  

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209. "It's DEFINITELY NOT saying anything your trying to push"
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210. "How can you be "definite" about what you "can't tell"?"
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211. "Holy fucking shit."
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I feel so bad for you.

But good luck with the agenda shit posting.

I'm out.

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212. "uh...."
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...uh...

  

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220. "survival, childhood trauma, leaving your demons behind you"
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there's a lot to unravel

  

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213. "Trash."
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214. "dope"
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215. "Well done, I enjoyed it. There's a hollowness here though."
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There's a line one of the intruders says when in the house that makes you think this is about more than a well made slasher flick. If you wait for that 'meaning' to come to fruition then everything rings hollow when the credits roll. If you just want to shout at the screen with the audience then this is that kind of flick, but a really well made flick, I'm really proud of Peele.

Also, like toni Colette in Heriditary, Lupita Nyong'o is a manic, crazed mother in this, just terrific.

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217. "this"
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>f you just want to shout at the screen with the audience then this is that kind of flick, but a really well made flick

It was a fun theater experience.

I picked up on the reveal early which made certain things make sense I was questioning at the time. There is a lot of unsaid things in this though that left me confused. I did like the movie though.

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218. "Agreed"
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As a horror film, one of the best I've seen in a while (I'd even put it over Hereditary.) Just stellar and unsettling in all the best ways.

If you're looking for a clear social commentary, it's not really here. I mean, it is, but not in the way a lot of people want.

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293. "It was good it ain’t even close to Heredity level"
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216. "Just saw it. Didn't really understand the meaning..."
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It was entertaining though. Longo is right. It's not really clear what Peele's core thesis is here and I'm not going to believe any thinkpiece saying that the message is just one thing.

  

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219. "Meh. Like 6-7 out of ten. Get out was written by his blakk side"
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And this was from his white side.
Sike but There was literally 1 lone non circlejerk review from the sxsw screening that was like - "yea This is ok, not mind blowing." That helped me lower my expectations or else ida been real disappointed

Luniz horror remix is the best part

Even Directorially, Peele could have changed some things around (ex- interlacing the reveal and the grand finale scenes woulda prolly got a bigger reaction... as-is the reveal is just like 'oh wow ok I can see that happening"). & not sure how hard it was shooting wit body doubles and syncing doubletakes, but none of the actual doppelganger fights really sold it. Pacing could have also been better bc i felt he may have had more to say in the final 15-30min that would have helped the overall theme. Or at least show how lupita#2 coordinated her army. The way the last 30min explanation is told, & kinda left open, it's just a long twilight zone episode. ((I'm sure there are nuff "reds = GOP/trump takeover" hot takes brewing right now tho))

Leaving the theater I was like 'eh', but I will admit during the walk home some dude turned the corner on me wearing a red jacket, & my first reaction was like- Oh hell naw and started to run up and dropkick him lol. U not pulling no scissors on me, ock!


Anyway, shout out to okp going full okp for 3 months in the top half of this thread. drugs in the community apparently is something we do need to talk abt cuz somma y'all seem to still be on them



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221. "who gets more royalties... the luniz or club nouveau?"
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222. "I give it a solid B. Ending was eye roll inducing. "
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223. "this piece broke down a lot (nothing but spoilers)"
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i.e. Lupita snapped off beat because she never knew how


https://shadowandact.com/the-ending-of-us-explained-review

  

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224. "the Thriller t-shirt x MJ Thriller look into the camera at the end"
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225. "SPOILER RESPONSE to you "
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I am so mad the snapping off beat thing turned out to be true lol.

Although I admit I thought “but didn’t she stay on beat as a ballerina?”

Lol

  

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226. "that shit was trash (SPOILERS I guess)"
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If you need this many "think pieces" to explain your movie so that most people can understand it then you failed.

Plus they made M'Baku into a groveling bitch for most of the movie. He was easily the weakest character in the entire film.

Plus too many unanswered questions... So did ALL this clones rise up and kill their doppelgangers or just some? And how was this decision made? And if so what kind of world did Adelaide/Red and her family escape to at the end? And why was the other lil boy's face burned? I know they said something about he liked to play with fire but why? And why was he usually on all fours like a dog? What was M'Baku and the daughter doing when Red came and scooped Jacob up?

Plus so many times during the movie I found myself screaming at the screen "black people wouldn't do that shit!"

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227. "I took the clones as a metaphor potentially"
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i.e. dont let your bad traits shape you and take over your good

but you're right, a lot of it left things unanswered. not a bad film, but not great

  

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228. ""black people wouldn't do that shit!" like what?"
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229. "literally everything they did in the entire movie lol"
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230. "Watching it right now. My wife gave up on it "
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She said the same shirt.

I’m just fighting thru it to get to the other side.

Why is the husband looking like the weakest nigga on earth. Dude has zero adrenaline and a few jokes.

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231. "right dawg..."
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>Why is the husband looking like the weakest nigga on earth.
>Dude has zero adrenaline and a few jokes.

they had M'Baku leader of the Jabari tribe acting like a lil bitch lol

if it wasn't for the person I was with I would've walked out that shit

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232. "Lot's of Black men aren't macho. That's a strange thing to"
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have an extreme reaction to.

Peele himself doesn't seem macho - which is why Peele probably wanted the lead actor to play it that way.


Yes I saw the movie.

  

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237. "I feel like it’s more than that, I feel like it’s trying to drive..."
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that very point home...

>have an extreme reaction to.
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>Peele himself doesn't seem macho - which is why Peele probably
>wanted the lead actor to play it that way.
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>Yes I saw the movie.

let’s take the biggest strongest black man in the movie and make him a cowering idiot for most of the movie while the women and children magically become lethal killers. At the end they don’t even let him drive and put him in the back seat like a child.

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266. "If you watch Duke's interviews, he's more Gabe than M'baku"
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but he's not ADOS, so he might not be the Black people you're talking about?

The only ADOS adult actor in the movie is Adelaide's extra negligent father from the beginning of the movie.

At any rate, it's almost refreshing when Black men aren't Luke Cage types, meaning big, strong, brash, with little brain. Gabe is big and smart and not very strong or brash. Peele probably thought that was revolutionary, but what would be more revolutionary right now is for a Black man on screen to be smart and strong simultaneously without being a criminal or sacrifice. I can think of Black male characters who have these traits on screen, but rarely the perfect characters that white males consistently get to play.

But you did tell me that I was wasting my time breaking down depictions of Black people in cinema, so why does this not apply to you, fam? Were you just being contrary because you didn't make the GoT post? Just funny seeing yall try to break down our depictions after yall came at me so hard for it.

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294. "The Dad was goofy/comic relief, but he DID kill his fair"
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share of Zombies as he pointed at in that scene in the jeep

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233. "Things evil lupita did, like getting out the car multiple times "
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Going off alone, tryna be friendly to the kids, etc

No blk person would do that but her real identity as a shadow person would



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236. "Literally everything, from their family vacation decisions, to their..."
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reactions when 4 weird people show up outside their door, to their actions after multiple people are brutally murdered in front of them, it was too much lol

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239. "He was terrible. "
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and I wasn’t impressed with this one.

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249. "I guess, maybe, but none of that even entered my mind"
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because I saw the film not as a black film but a film that was centered around black people and black people of a certain/specific demographic

they were free in a ways other black people might not be free - they had a vacation home in freaking Santa Cruz and they appeared to be old money (example, nice house but old benz) and were comfortable in their own reality (i.e., being the only black faces in white places) while also having a foot on their own blackness (i.e. going to Howard U, choice of music, etc)


so for me, all of their actions tracked with how they presented initially. I didnt consider their reactions to be non-black but rather a form of black

There are 40 million black people in the United States, how do you figure all 40 million of us are supposed to react the same exact way?

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250. "much like the movie, you're trying to get too deep..."
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>because I saw the film not as a black film but a film that
>was centered around black people and black people of a
>certain/specific demographic
>
>they were free in a ways other black people might not be free
>- they had a vacation home in freaking Santa Cruz and they
>appeared to be old money (example, nice house but old benz)
>and were comfortable in their own reality (i.e., being the
>only black faces in white places) while also having a foot on
>their own blackness (i.e. going to Howard U, choice of music,
>etc)
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>so for me, all of their actions tracked with how they
>presented initially. I didnt consider their reactions to be
>non-black but rather a form of black
>
>There are 40 million black people in the United States, how do
>you figure all 40 million of us are supposed to react the same
>exact way?

I'm aware of all that, I was saying what my reactions were at the time in the theater when I saw the movie last Thursday,

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251. "This movie is literally about 1.5% of black folks"
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40 million black folks. 20 million black families. Only 300,000 of these families is worth 1mil net, so it's more than sensible to say this movie isn't about black people. It's literally about 1.5% of black people, because that's how many black people would be living like them. When ppl say black people have or act like this or that, it's safe to say they're referring to the 98.5% and not the 1.5%. Due to our history and us being shut out of America, we're more of a monolith in terms of wealth than most of us realize.

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234. "Lots of words, not a lot of deeper analysis"
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Mostly bc the movie doesn't really pull things into a logical storyline, so ppl are just filling in the gaps however they want

The offbeat snapping, messed up vocals,etc are obvious once the reveal happens
But then when u think about more- she can't snap but became a dancer? She's the only one that can talk but coordinated a flash mob of 100million grunting quasi- zombies?



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235. "Exactly lol..."
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>The offbeat snapping, messed up vocals,etc are obvious once
>the reveal happens
>But then when u think about more- she can't snap but became a
>dancer? She's the only one that can talk but coordinated a
>flash mob of 100million grunting quasi- zombies?

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238. "plus when Adelaide initially meets Red as child in the funhouse..."
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she doesn’t have on the orange jumpsuit, she somehow has the exact same outfit she has on that particular day, down to the t-shirt her father just won for her, but later it appears that Red takes the t-shirt from Adelaide and puts it on to impersonate her, like we said too many inconsistencies.

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246. "the jumpsuit came with the"
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