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Cam
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"What would it take to get you to relocate?"


  

          

With numerous cities offering incentives to energize communities and tax bases, what would attract you to leave where you are now?

Programs like these:
http://renewhavenct.com/
https://tulsaremote.com/
https://opportunitydetroit.com/
https://livebaltimore.com/financial-incentives/

  

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opportunity for me or my wife that can't be had here (DMV)
Dec 20th 2018
1
All the home buying incentives in Baltimore City
Dec 20th 2018
3
      True. COL is high on the list
Dec 20th 2018
5
      Baltimore City to DC is not a "commute" IMO....that's a road trip
Dec 20th 2018
15
      2 hours each way for my new coworker, though she takes the train
Dec 20th 2018
19
      It's an hr one way by train...did it for months...it's not that bad
Dec 20th 2018
20
           You can read and sleep on the train
Dec 20th 2018
24
           Yep
Dec 20th 2018
27
           Yeah, it def. depends where you're landing in DC. If she's taking 2hrs, ...
Dec 20th 2018
38
      Did B'more to Crystal City. Damned near 3 hours each way. I lasted...
Dec 20th 2018
53
           East bmore to bethesda for a good 8 months
Dec 20th 2018
55
                WORD! I did that back in 2002. Usedta drive to Beltsville and then jump....
Dec 20th 2018
56
                     Yeah, people kill me talking about "B'more is only a hour from DC"
Dec 21st 2018
68
                     man... i drove from woodlawn to germantown from 02-05
Dec 21st 2018
70
                          What was the crazy part of that Bethesda commute?
Dec 21st 2018
71
                               Because of this "Columbia Pike into Colesville Rd, then the EaWe Hwy,"
Dec 21st 2018
73
      we make way too much to qualify for any of those
Dec 20th 2018
33
           Homes...of those 40 or so programs listed in the Baltimore link
Dec 20th 2018
35
           inbox!
Dec 20th 2018
43
                Ha
Dec 20th 2018
44
                     LMAO! damn...bad timing. Nah, this was an unrelated inbox for previous
Dec 20th 2018
46
ponders
Dec 20th 2018
2
good points
Dec 20th 2018
47
Money, upward mobility, diversity... decent weather.
Dec 20th 2018
4
of the places listed in the OP
Dec 20th 2018
6
Property taxes in CT are steep, but that New Haven deal is amazing.
Dec 20th 2018
7
I totally missed the list. Bmore is the only one
Dec 20th 2018
8
      They do, as long as it's in city limits.
Dec 20th 2018
11
      First one is fly as hell
Dec 20th 2018
21
           Absolutely
Dec 20th 2018
26
                RE: Absolutely
Dec 20th 2018
31
                     Roland Park
Dec 20th 2018
32
                          Roland Park Country School or regular ol Roland Park?
Dec 20th 2018
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                               Regular Roland Park
Dec 20th 2018
45
                                    WoW...I can see elementary...kinda...but wow...fascinating
Dec 20th 2018
48
                                    Roland Park is good
Dec 20th 2018
49
                                         i don't know how many X's i done posted abt our school police
Dec 20th 2018
50
                                              i remember that
Dec 20th 2018
51
      RE: I totally missed the list. Bmore is the only one
Dec 20th 2018
66
The new location would have to be nice
Dec 20th 2018
9
less people, more natural scenery
Dec 20th 2018
10
Nothin....already there...I'm good here...
Dec 20th 2018
12
It would have to be WAY more money.
Dec 20th 2018
13
Good Family Members are valuable
Dec 20th 2018
58
      Yep
Dec 20th 2018
61
Same salary, same job security, 1/2 cost of living
Dec 20th 2018
14
Well, having relocated to one of those, let me tell you
Dec 20th 2018
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I've been working on visiting all the 'flyover' states this year.
Dec 20th 2018
22
      Cool. Let me know if you need any pointers/ideas.
Dec 20th 2018
28
I'm part Detroitian (wife is from the D)... there's NOTHING that would t...
Dec 20th 2018
17
Lmao at part Detroitan. The hawk is real. I thought Pittsburgh was cold
Dec 20th 2018
25
nigga my SNOT froze! ... my.S.N.O.T. !
Dec 20th 2018
40
I saw how Aretha Franklin's mansion on a golf course
Dec 20th 2018
30
      It's wild. The architecture in Detroit is SO DOPE too. I always see hous...
Dec 20th 2018
41
I've got great weather & beaches close by...
Dec 20th 2018
18
Yeah, thats one of the main reasons I WOULD move now
Dec 20th 2018
23
Affordable and available real estate + source of income in new location
Dec 20th 2018
29
Not sure if anything would-- other than a disaster here
Dec 20th 2018
34
Talk to me about State Obama Medicaid Expansion?
Dec 20th 2018
59
      RE: Talk to me about State Obama Medicaid Expansion?
Dec 21st 2018
74
$$$$$$
Dec 20th 2018
36
Did you see New Haven is giving close to $80K to come there.
Dec 20th 2018
37
i might be looking to do this come summer next year
Dec 20th 2018
42
I’m sorry but if you have to throw all these incentives to move
Dec 20th 2018
52
There’s a ton wrong here but it can only change if the city is able to...
Dec 20th 2018
63
I'm in IT. So, I'm good anywhere. My wife though. She wants/needs her 14...
Dec 20th 2018
54
14 years for pension eligibility?
Dec 20th 2018
57
      RE: GS-14
Dec 20th 2018
62
           Ah, makes sense.
Dec 20th 2018
65
                Georgia’s locale pay is significanctly less than the current one. Craz...
Dec 20th 2018
67
Diversity Matters! Enjoy Seeing Different People
Dec 20th 2018
60
Weather, level of racism, environment
Dec 20th 2018
64
Where do these places rank on unarmed black men getting killed by police...
Dec 21st 2018
69
New Haven Connecticut is considered to be in the NYC Metro area.
Dec 21st 2018
72
would you pick extra cold winters or extra hot summers?
Dec 21st 2018
75
You can always put more clothes on. You can't take enough off though.
Dec 21st 2018
76
winter clothes will let a stocky dude look aight too!!
Dec 21st 2018
77
Nope. Give me the extra hot over extra cold any day
Dec 21st 2018
78
      As long as I got AC I’m good.
Dec 21st 2018
79
only if its outside the US
Dec 22nd 2018
80
I left the country. Great decision so far.
Dec 22nd 2018
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tomjohn29
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1. "opportunity for me or my wife that can't be had here (DMV)"
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which is pretty unlikely

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

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We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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Cam
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3. "All the home buying incentives in Baltimore City"
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You wouldn't add a commute for more house for less cash?

  

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5. "True. COL is high on the list"
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What’s the point of a fat paycheck if the COL is insane?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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FLUIDJ
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15. "Baltimore City to DC is not a "commute" IMO....that's a road trip"
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these days...all this traffic...

"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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19. "2 hours each way for my new coworker, though she takes the train"
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I winced internally when she told me... but she's gonna stick it out until next summer so she doesn't have to pull her kid our of school mid-year

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->

  

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20. "It's an hr one way by train...did it for months...it's not that bad"
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then again I was workin rt by the DC train station by the CNN building

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legsdiamond
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24. "You can read and sleep on the train"
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NYC subway commutes are an hour minimum if you live in Brooklyn but it doesn’t feel that long on a train.

Driving tho?

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Cam
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27. "Yep"
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I've been commuting from DC to NYC, for the past three years, up until this Fall, & that Baltimore-DC ride definitely has never been 2 hours each way.

  

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38. "Yeah, it def. depends where you're landing in DC. If she's taking 2hrs, ..."
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she's probably taking the entire communting process into account, which is very understandable. Especially if she has to transfer from the MARC over to Metro or even a bus...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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53. "Did B'more to Crystal City. Damned near 3 hours each way. I lasted..."
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ONE MONTH!

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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55. "East bmore to bethesda for a good 8 months"
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shit killed me. i hated that fucking job and the 2 hour commute thinking about it just made it worse. For a good while, i was on an assignment in Gaithersburg and that commute wasnt bad (still long in distance but not bad traffic). But Bethesda... sheeiitttt, I'd be like 5 miles from the office and 45 mins away.

  

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56. "WORD! I did that back in 2002. Usedta drive to Beltsville and then jump...."
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>Bethesda... sheeiitttt, I'd be like 5 miles from the office
>and 45 mins away.

on the bus from there to Bethesda.

Did what I had to do for that bread because a similar gig in Baltimore was paying almost $15k less per year.

Now, I value my time a bit more.

--- praying for peace, love, and power

  

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68. "Yeah, people kill me talking about "B'more is only a hour from DC""
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TECHNICALLY...it is...if you talking border to border.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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70. "man... i drove from woodlawn to germantown from 02-05"
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and that commute really wasn't shit. Less than an hour one-way.
When I took the Bethesda job I didn't think it would be that bad. Shit, my first day driving to the office I was like 'FUCK AM I DOING??"

  

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Cam
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71. "What was the crazy part of that Bethesda commute?"
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Columbia Pike into Colesville Rd, then the EastWest Highway?

  

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73. "Because of this "Columbia Pike into Colesville Rd, then the EaWe Hwy,""
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>Shit, my first day driving to the office I was like 'FUCK AM I DOING??"

I felt the exact same way. I wouldn't even consider the commute again unless my wife was willing to make a move to be closer to there and if the salary was significantly greater than what I'm at right now.

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33. "we make way too much to qualify for any of those"
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and no...im not into baltimore

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Vita em, no continous non
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Cam
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35. "Homes...of those 40 or so programs listed in the Baltimore link"
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maybe 8 have max income restrictions.

  

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43. "inbox!"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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44. "Ha"
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You soliciting him to finance a gofundme boarder wall idea?

Let's buy this to house a private social club, it could be like the OKP SoHo House.

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Baltimore/1128-N-Calvert-St-21202/home/146073247

  

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46. "LMAO! damn...bad timing. Nah, this was an unrelated inbox for previous"
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post that he helped out in lol...


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2. "ponders"
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Thu Dec-20-18 11:32 AM by Selah

          

off top:

tax-free relocation bonus

same salary (at least) with lower cost of living

stability of new gig (I have many stories of cats who relocated then their jobs went poof when things didn't pan out the way the company projected)

the relocation expenses must be covered (move my stuff ...quickly ... with insurance)

  

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47. "good points"
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4. "Money, upward mobility, diversity... decent weather. "
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As long as those checks coming in and there is some culture and diversity I could move... oh, and weather.

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6. "of the places listed in the OP"
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new haven, ct
tulsa, ok
detroit, mi
baltimore, md


not an ice cube's chance in hell for any of them

  

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Cam
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7. "Property taxes in CT are steep, but that New Haven deal is amazing."
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8. "I totally missed the list. Bmore is the only one"
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and I ain’t living in the hood. Doubt they give incentives for living in the nice part of Baltimore.. if there is one.

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11. "They do, as long as it's in city limits."
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Thu Dec-20-18 12:16 PM by Cam

  

          

There's plenty of fly affordable shit in Baltimore. Like these...

Row homes & single family homes under $300K and over 2,500 Sq Feet
https://www.redfin.com/MD/Baltimore/2727-N-Calvert-St-21218/home/10848102

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Baltimore/806-E-Belvedere-Ave-21212/home/11201138

https://www.redfin.com/MD/Baltimore/3919-Juniper-Rd-21218/home/10838710

Condos under $400K and over 3,000 Sq Feet
https://www.redfin.com/MD/Baltimore/100-Harborview-Dr-21230/unit-207/home/11025138

  

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21. "First one is fly as hell"
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26. "Absolutely"
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& the two single family homes below are zoned for the second highest ranked elementary school in the city, also the top 20 in the state.

  

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31. "RE: Absolutely"
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>& the two single family homes below are zoned for the second
>highest ranked elementary school in the city, also the top 20
>in the state.
>
>
which schools?

  

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32. "Roland Park"
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Thu Dec-20-18 01:13 PM by Cam

  

          

Thomas Johnson is the top spot.

  

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39. "Roland Park Country School or regular ol Roland Park?"
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cuz ummmm...one is my alma mater and although we had some genius's we also had ......some issues

and some of those that you listed are in tricky spots...like go 2 blocks to the north east south or west and shit gets real...then again that's bmore in general

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Cam
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45. "Regular Roland Park"
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It's still rated second best public elementary in the city.

There was a similar place equidistant from both of those that I toured in the Fall, the realtor kept highlighting the specific school zone as an attraction.

  

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48. "WoW...I can see elementary...kinda...but wow...fascinating"
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49. "Roland Park is good"
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I lived 'ova West' and got accepted into their gifted and talented middle school program. I went there for ONE DAY.. Mom dukes was like, this shit too far.

I asked about the school because while I figured that's what you were talkign about, i didnt see it on the listing as the closest school. The way the schools are zoned can be tricky.

  

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50. "i don't know how many X's i done posted abt our school police"
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getting shot
i'll never ever forget that day for as long as I live...

Roland was very good and very bad all in one


I ALWAYS ask people...ok...what was hands down the baddest High school during our era....Northern....where did half them crazy somebidges come from lol... Roland

hell... one of the biggest 'legendary' hustlers kids went there the same time the mayor's daughter did.

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GROOVEPHI
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51. "i remember that"
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66. "RE: I totally missed the list. Bmore is the only one"
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>and I ain’t living in the hood. Doubt they give incentives
>for living in the nice part of Baltimore.. if there is one.

Not everything is hood but, like said before, going a few blocks in different directions could land you in a different world.

For example, there is Ten Hills. Step outside of there, on one side, and find yourself in Edmonson Village. Go the other way and you’ll end up down on Franklin Avenue near the Beechfield and Irvington neighborhoods. Go a few more blocks north and you’d end up in West Hills or Rodney Heights which are two nice neighborhoods.


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9. "The new location would have to be nice"
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Paid for relocation costs
Mo money, especially if its a higher COL area

I've thought about going to CA where company HQ is. I think I would definitely like the location more. But any place that you would actually want to live in is more expensive than where I am now, which is already expensive. My Mom is here too. Anyway I just bought a house and after moving 10 times in as many years, I'm good on that for a while.

Recently I was thinking about people who have to move because their job requires them too. That's crazy to me. If it came down to it I would probably do it but it just seems messed up for your employer to make you change up your whole life like that. That job better be GOOD.

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Crash Bandacoot
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10. "less people, more natural scenery"
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fresh air, bike trails, organic food, access to good cannabis

  

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12. "Nothin....already there...I'm good here..."
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Coolin...

  

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13. "It would have to be WAY more money. "
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The main reason we are still in our current area is the support network for our kids. My parents are around the corner and so are my wife's. My kids are in the school district my mom taught in for 30 years and retired from, so everyone in the schools knows us well. Our family is there to help when it comes to babysitting - our youngest is with my parents two days a week which helps with daycare costs.

We used to think that once the kids got old enough to not need childcare we would have options to move if we wanted, but that doesn't seem realistic at all. Separate from regular childcare, right now if we want to book a vacation for ourselves and leave the kids with family that is easy. We also realize how hard it would be for our parents if we moved farther away - grandkids really keep grandparents young. There are studies showing this and we absolutely see it in our lives.

For us to leave all of that one of use would have to be making so much more money that it would be a no-brainer. Separate from advances in cost of living, tax incentives, real estate benefits, or moving expenses. We are both in jobs/companies that we can work anywhere in the country, so if one of us came up big the other could keep working the same job while in another state. Unless it was such an increase that one of use could be a stay at home parent, which might also be necessary for us to leave our support network.

  

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58. "Good Family Members are valuable"
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What is the point of having the big car, house cool job if you can't enjoy it with people you love. If those people include extended family than I see how it can be hard to part with.


I think moving is overrated. I moved a lot for about 3 years and the uncertainty was no fun.

But I am starting to wonder, someone build a support network wherever they go?

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61. "Yep"
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FLUIDJ
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14. "Same salary, same job security, 1/2 cost of living"
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16. "Well, having relocated to one of those, let me tell you"
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Grew up in Tulsa, moved away for 20 years, moved back 2 years ago from Atlanta. I worked remote for my same company for the first 16 months back (before this program started, damnit) and the difference in cost of living and everything else are pretty fantastic compared to Atlanta. Quality of life, on the other hand, you just have to be ready to expect a lot less (although it is leaps and bounds a better place than when I was growing up here). Food sucks, attractions are limited, not living in a hub also sucks for flying. And the politics...well...
But I moved back 70% for family reasons and 30% for "Atlanta is getting too damn expensive, and it isn't expensive" reasons. I bought a 1500 sqft home for $165K that would have been $600K+ in the current Atlanta real estate market. The program that is out there and linked is sponsored by George Kaiser, who is giving away money like crazy trying to boost up the image, standing and economic diversity of the city/region. If you had no ties (mortgage, family) and could work remote while maintaining decent pay, that program is a good chunk of free money with both the $10K cash and discounted luxury apartment they give you all for just a one-year commitment. If I were still living in Atlanta, and it were only a year and I wasn't married, I would do it in a heartbeat.

  

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22. "I've been working on visiting all the 'flyover' states this year."
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& I must say, a lot of those automatically dismissed parts of the mid-west I've found to be excellent places.

I'm headed to Tulsa at the end of next week.

  

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28. "Cool. Let me know if you need any pointers/ideas."
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Staying downtown, I hope?

  

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FLUIDJ
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17. "I'm part Detroitian (wife is from the D)... there's NOTHING that would t..."
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us back there lol...
It's come a long LONG LONG way...but the weather is a non-starter.


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25. "Lmao at part Detroitan. The hawk is real. I thought Pittsburgh was cold"
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Never been that cold in my life.

Fuck no.

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40. "nigga my SNOT froze! ... my.S.N.O.T. ! "
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just the thought of the Detroit hawk even got me saying the N word out here lol....


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30. "I saw how Aretha Franklin's mansion on a golf course "
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...just sold for $300K and was baffled.
https://www.instagram.com/p/Bql0xMcgfHc/?utm_source=ig_embed

  

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41. "It's wild. The architecture in Detroit is SO DOPE too. I always see hous..."
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that i'd love to just pick up and bring down south to more habitable conditions.

Detroit is def. on the come up too....10 years it'll be in the lime light again no doubt.

But it's still gonna be too fcking cold for MY southern blood.


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18. "I've got great weather & beaches close by..."
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>With numerous cities offering incentives to energize
>communities and tax bases, what would attract you to leave
>where you are now?
>
>Programs like these:
>http://renewhavenct.com/
>https://tulsaremote.com/
>https://opportunitydetroit.com/
>https://livebaltimore.com/financial-incentives/


If someone wants me to move back north and mess with that ice & snow, they're gonna have to pay me a GRIP.

I've only been to Detroit out of the cities in the OP and it's closer to where I grew up. I don't know much about the other 3.

  

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23. "Yeah, thats one of the main reasons I WOULD move now"
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If/when I ever get to a place without snow and a beach within close proximity, thats a wrap for me. There's no going back. I was in SF last week where it was 50-60 degrees and people had beanies on and shit. Someone said thats pretty much the coldest it gets there.

I started doing the relocation math there for a minute like https://media1.tenor.com/images/fb3f2d1e814190100a4ae401b1660d5b/tenor.gif?itemid=6081931

Then I realized I'd have to go from a house to a studio apartment https://media.giphy.com/media/dnkTPFmjAxyUg/giphy.gif

I do this every time I go there.

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29. "Affordable and available real estate + source of income in new location"
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I can afford to invest in nice areas here. Not moving anywhere where that is not true.

  

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34. "Not sure if anything would-- other than a disaster here"
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>With numerous cities offering incentives to energize
>communities and tax bases, what would attract you to leave
>where you are now?
hard to beat San Diego for weather.

We have increasing bad traffic, a super high cost of living.

But the weather is excellent.

Outdoor activities such as hiking/beach/parks is excellent.

California's health care is excellent.

People here are 80% NOT rednecks assholes.

Plus I'm in a situation where my condo is 100% paid for AND I work for a great company that provides almost unlimited stability (it's a hospital system.)

1)So I'd have to have a stable job that pays well.
2)Not be around a bunch of rednecks
3)Weather where it only under 40 degrees at night and few a few months a year, and where there's little rain or snow.
4)Can't be much hotter than San Diego.
4)A place where I could by a nice condo/house for under $280k (what I'd next from selling mine today.)
5)Can't be a state that refused the Obamacare medicare expansion.

Basically in the U.S. there is no other place.

To move from here there'd have to be the big earthquake or some sort of radiation/massive deadly pollution.

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59. "Talk to me about State Obama Medicaid Expansion? "
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If every state offered unique benefits, more people would move.

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74. "RE: Talk to me about State Obama Medicaid Expansion? "
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>If every state offered unique benefits, more people would
>move.

I won't touch that , but.

>Talk to me about State Obama Medicaid Expansion?

When the ACA (Obamacare was passed) it offered states to pay for expansion of their mecidaid befits - for FREE. Free money.

A bunch states refused to take free money to help their residents becuase they fucking hate Obama.

They are:
Alabama
Florida
Georgia
Kansas
Mississippi
Missouri
North Carolina
Oklamahoma
South carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Wyoming


Also:
Some rejected it, but then voters put a measure on the ballot and forced it.
Idaho
Maine
Montana
Nebraska
Wisonsin


You can't trust ANY of these states to do the right thing for their citizens EVER. From now on - even when everyone has died in 100 years and new citizens are governing.

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36. "$$$$$$"
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but also where I'm being relocated to.


If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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37. "Did you see New Haven is giving close to $80K to come there."
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I worked in NYC with a bunch of people who commuted in from CT, including near New Haven, daily.

  

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42. "i might be looking to do this come summer next year"
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main thing holding me here at the moment is the yearly bonus which i should get in april.

i would obviously be looking for good money. if the rent is low or the pay is enough to cover the additional cost then that would be good.

i dont mind cold weather as long as it wont factor much into the cost to live there.

would be nice to get more concerts so if im within 30 mins to a decent metro i should be good.

wouldnt want to be in a hostile environment, would want to make my sure my kind are welcome there lol

i might seriously start looking into some options to move back to detroit. need to look into what other cities are offering incentives to move and weigh my options.

  

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52. "I’m sorry but if you have to throw all these incentives to move "
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there must be something really wrong.

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63. "There’s a ton wrong here but it can only change if the city is able to..."
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a more educated and/or skilled workforce that would help to increase tax revenue. Ultimately, said increase would eventually help to revitalize the city. That’s why all of these incentives exist. The average household income here is like $30k per year. With qualified people that can take on the higher paying jobs and that will live in the city rather than commuting, Baltimore can grow/change through an increase in that revenue. This is what I believe the city is up to and is at the basis of what’s been happening here.

Sadly, it’s become apparent to me that there is a large swath of people who aren’t cared about at all. The care is feigned but ain’t all the way serious. The recently re-elected Governor wants them gone. The current Mayor don’t really give a damn because she’s in business with the Governor who’s a real estate developer.

I know a ton of educated and/or career-oriented people here. Most of the Black ones live outside of the city. And the White ones ain’t moving back into the city as fast as some would have hoped. So, yeah! These recruiting efforts are geared towards keeping those younger college educated folks here instead of them leaving after they finish at Hopkins, Loyola, UMBC, Towson, and Goucher. I don’t think they care about the grads from Morgan and Coppin. Hmmmm! I wonder why that is.




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54. "I'm in IT. So, I'm good anywhere. My wife though. She wants/needs her 14..."
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before we make a move. She needs/wants that rate before a long distance move is made.

And there are two places that we'd really like to go to. Either back to ATL or to Seattle.

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57. "14 years for pension eligibility?"
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Atlanta's suburban politics are fascinating. https://www.citylab.com/equity/2018/11/eagles-landing-vote-secede-stockbridge-georgia/575371/

I love Seattle.

  

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62. "RE: GS-14 "
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She left private industry 8 years ago and entered the gubment as a GS-7. She’s up to a 13 right now. She says that she needs the 14 to be sure that the potential decrease in locale pay, which would decrease if we went back to ATL, is negated (somewhat offfset in her favor) by the increase in grade.

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65. "Ah, makes sense."
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I think the only other states where pay adjust is better are Jersey, California and Connecticut...where property taxes stay high.

  

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67. "Georgia’s locale pay is significanctly less than the current one. Craz..."
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is that the Atlanta area, today, is not much cheaper than living here in Baltimore. You gonna pay to live nicely in either place.

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60. "Diversity Matters! Enjoy Seeing Different People"
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I would take a pay cut to keep my job and move to Miami. Is there another cool coastal city that needs remote workers?

I know a tide is changing in the US where diversity is trendy. But I really like meeting, seeing and interacting with people who are different, not just in race but thought, style and identity.

DC is becoming better and better every year. I see DC as a great base. I can visit other cities and take vacation, but for now DC works for me.

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64. "Weather, level of racism, environment"
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.

<----

Soundcloud.com/aquil84

(HIP HOP)
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69. "Where do these places rank on unarmed black men getting killed by police..."
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How long does it take to find a good barber in connecticut and tulsa?

I need diversity, stuff to do, a good barber, and a decent social scene. Bonus points for alcoves where I can get this fuckery off but lay low from time to time.

  

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72. "New Haven Connecticut is considered to be in the NYC Metro area."
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Beyond being the home to Yale, it's a very Black and Latino small city. You'll find a barber easily.
Tulsa, the Greenwood neighborhood, I'm sure there are long established shops.

  

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75. "would you pick extra cold winters or extra hot summers?"
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one place i would not relocate to is houston due to that heat.

i would much rather go somewhere that gets real cold in the winter.

  

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76. "You can always put more clothes on. You can't take enough off though. "
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RE: would you pick extra cold winters or extra hot summers?
>one place i would not relocate to is houston due to that
>heat.
>
>i would much rather go somewhere that gets real cold in the
>winter.

And Texas, in the summertime, is unnecessarily and unforgivably HOT!

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77. "winter clothes will let a stocky dude look aight too!!"
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lol

dont wanna see no big dude with a shirt off or a "muscle" shirt

  

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78. "Nope. Give me the extra hot over extra cold any day"
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Our summers are hot & humid as hell. But our winters are fantastic (70-80 and sunny). That's a great tradeoff for me. If I never see another snowflake, I'm good!

  

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legsdiamond
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79. "As long as I got AC I’m good. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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Damali
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80. "only if its outside the US"
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Overqualified
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81. "I left the country. Great decision so far."
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I left Atlanta for DC and didn't care for it, outside of my salary.

Streets won't let me chill.

  

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