"Is it me or are there more black folks in their 30's & 40's pledging..."
sororities and fraternities via grad chapters and whatnot?
It seems like it didn't happen as much back in the day and grad chapter pledges where somewhat shaded by those that pledged in undergrad because they felt like the grad chapter pledges took the easy route and were "paper" and not real frat.
Now it seems like whatever and not as exclusive and they'll pretty much take whomever is willing to pay the money.
Is that what it is basically a money grab by the grad chapters? What's purpose of pledging at that point? Do people at that age still need new friends?
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Mon Dec-17-18 12:39 PM
1. "Membership has its privileges " In response to Reply # 0
At least that’s what a friend told me. I think it’s mostly for business connects.
I have a female friend and I think she went over in her 30’s. Now all her photos on FB are sorority events posing with her sisters. She seems happy so I can’t knock it.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
3. "Kappas and Ques were suspended at my school" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Dec-17-18 01:57 PM by Cam
Until it was time for me to leave. & I wasn't having those young dudes pledge me. Plus, at a school with 35K students, and less than 1K of them Black, I didn't have a problem meeting people...especially women, opposite from what I saw with the majority of Sigmas on campus--before they crossed, so I knew that frat wasn't for me. The few Alphas there were cool, but they didn't do much.
My best friend pledged a grad chapter some years ago, in his mid-30s, is very active and apparently receives nothing but respect throughout.
Also, he was the youngest member of his line, with multiple men in their 60s. The second youngest Line Brother is a current prominent politician. He explained that the multi-month pledge process wasn't a physical hazing, but far more than simply paying fees and signing papers.
4. "Some do it for extended brother/Sisterhood and Civic/Community activity" In response to Reply # 0
Each person has their own core reasons. Some do it for notoriety, for personal gain, to be held accountable for community service and involvement, to be part of the mentoring programs, to build a strong social activity network, to engage men an women of like-mindedness on a regular basis, etc. I mean, there are a myriad of reasons, most are good and have benefits.
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
7. "RE: Grad chapter pledging...to get women?" In response to Reply # 6
>Unless he's going back to a campus to try to pull freshmen, I >don't see his plan working.
Bro, there are a lot of grown women that love frats. In the ATL this is a real thing. I've met plenty of women that are in sororities that won't fool with a dude that's not in a frat. It's wild.
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
10. "Any particular reason why this is surprising to you?" In response to Reply # 8
>Surprising
It's just another filter that women can use to find brothers who at least semi have their thing together. Or they can be looking for a certain type of guy, the frats help weed that out.
12. "Anecdotally my experiences aren't this" In response to Reply # 10
I have people in my life from every Black greek fraternity and sorority or org, except Iota--I've never met one--but including Grooves and those women aux groups. Yes, I know dudes who crossed and then suddenly got women they never had, but never have I known any to date exclusively based on the other person's membership...extending beyond their undergrad days/ages.
Seems like a silly juvenile metric, especially since individual members of every one of those groups aren't monolithic.
13. "That's not how it works so much. " In response to Reply # 12
It's not that chicks will want to f-ck you because you are greek, it's more like your are in more situations and opportunities to smash because of your fraternity brothers (or sorority sisters).
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14. "That makes sense. " In response to Reply # 13
Though, as a non affiliate, I've attended a Que Mardi Gras & a Kappa Boatride or two...and have attracted women in attendance.
The confusion in my response is more about the women described in comments like these... Case - "I've met plenty of women that are in sororities that won't fool with a dude that's not in a frat." & BKWhat - "a bunch of em won't fw non-cliq'd up dudes."
15. "RE: That makes sense. " In response to Reply # 14
>Though, as a non affiliate, I've attended a Que Mardi Gras & >a Kappa Boatride or two...and have attracted women in >attendance. > >The confusion in my response is more about the women described >in comments like these... >Case - "I've met plenty of women that are in sororities that >won't fool with a dude that's not in a frat." >& >BKWhat - "a bunch of em won't fw non-cliq'd up dudes." >
BKWhat is in undergrad so his experience is going to be different, Case is whatever
19. "RE: That makes sense. " In response to Reply # 15
Case's experience is based on his navigation as a Kappa and his long association with Kappas and Ques in the ATL. I'm telling you, the ATL is different. There are a lot of Divine Nine Greek Letter Chapters here and most women within in a Greek Letter org will not fool with a dude that's not in a Greek Letter Org. It could be due to association and circles of influence, but I've talked to many and they are on that Bus.
"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Mon Dec-17-18 04:04 PM
11. "My brother told me about a sex party " In response to Reply # 7
a woman told him about that was run by a bunch of frat dudes..
She said she didn’t go, he didn’t believe her.
Real talk, he said he was mad because he wasn’t invited...lol.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
20. "i work at an hbcu and im surrounded by greeks...some grad..." In response to Reply # 0 Tue Dec-18-18 10:45 AM by mikediggz
some undergrad. my teamlead is a que who went over grad and a teamlead of another subgroup is an undergrad que. they roll tight and respect each other equally. there are 2 kappas in other subgroups with the same dynamic...actually 3, 2 grad pledges and 1 undergrad. the 3 of them roll kinda tight. all that to say that around here it seems that grad is respected pretty good. the grad kappas are involved with the undergrad kappas on campus. them and the grad que are always joking about recruiting the rest of us lol. all that to say that both grad and undergrad (at least around here, but this is an hbcu so greeklife is prevalent) respect each other pretty equally.
>sororities and fraternities via grad chapters and whatnot? > >It seems like it didn't happen as much back in the day and >grad chapter pledges where somewhat shaded by those that >pledged in undergrad because they felt like the grad chapter >pledges took the easy route and were "paper" and not real >frat. > >Now it seems like whatever and not as exclusive and they'll >pretty much take whomever is willing to pay the money. > >Is that what it is basically a money grab by the grad >chapters? What's purpose of pledging at that point? Do people >at that age still need new friends?
21. "I clowned them when I was in college, but respect the decision now." In response to Reply # 0
I'd say for all of my frat brothers from college, maybe 30% or less of them are still active, attending functions, doing community service...etc. My chapter was 30 bros strong on campus, and I can think of maybe 5 or 6 that are still active.
The brothers out there doing the actual work are mostly bros that pledged grad chapter. Their motivations seem a bit more sincere. Even if they did do it for the networking opportunities or the social status, at least they are doing the actual good works of the frat.
More often than not, college bros pledge, enjoy the social status that comes with it, do the service part, but let it go once they leave college. Then it becomes nothing more than some paraphernalia, and the occasional convention.
23. "this old head in my wife's side of the family just pledged Que a couple ..." In response to Reply # 0
he's like 60. wife sent me a pic of him throwing up the hooks. Man if you dont sit your old ass down somewhere. i dont even think he has a degree and he's not former military, so I dont know how he pledged grad chapter..
>he's like 60. >wife sent me a pic of him throwing up the hooks. Man if you >dont sit your old ass down somewhere. >i dont even think he has a degree and he's not former >military, so I dont know how he pledged grad chapter..
27. "Its for old niggas...." In response to Reply # 0
That got rejected or were too lame in college to pledge. Now they get to put Frat license plates on they Chrysler 300. And they get to wear the "A _________ MAN IS REAL MAN T-shirts to formal events.
And they get to make dumb noises and hand signs in crowds.
You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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