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"Voting While Black"


  

          

so now that we have established the twitter hashtag for mundane activities like

bbq'n while black
babysitting while black
etc...

I'm hoping we can focus that energy on the machinations of systemic oppression/racism

specifically, leading up to the midterms, suppressing the black vote

https://www.vox.com/identities/2018/10/17/17990110/georgia-senior-citizens-bus-removal-black-voters-matter-suppression

As early voting began Monday in Georgia, a group of black senior citizens gathered for a voter outreach event at Jefferson County’s Leisure Center. Members of Black Voters Matter, one of the groups behind the event, offered to drive the group of about 40 seniors to the polls.

But shortly after the seniors boarded the organization’s bus, county officials stopped the trip, prompting new accusations of voter suppression in a state already dealing with several such controversies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/11/us/politics/georgia-voter-registration-kemp-abrams.html

The office of Brian Kemp, Georgia’s secretary of state and the Republican nominee for governor in November’s election, has stalled more than 53,000 voter applications, according to a recent report from The Associated Press. The list includes a disproportionately high number of black voters, the report said, which is stirring concern among nonpartisan voting rights advocates and supporters of Stacey Abrams, the Democratic candidate, who is vying to be the first black woman in the country to be elected governor.



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majority hispanic kansas city of 27k moves their *one* polling place
Oct 19th 2018
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I mean this is blatant even for *Kansas*
Oct 19th 2018
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107,000 purged from Georgia voter rolls for not voting in past elections...
Oct 19th 2018
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Florida referendum would re-enfranchise 1.5 million citizens
Oct 19th 2018
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the only thing stopping this is the high 60% majority vote threshold.
Oct 19th 2018
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and dems continue to play defense/catchup instead of attack
Oct 19th 2018
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exactly, they're playing the long game, dems are stuck on reactionary
Oct 19th 2018
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a lot of those were overturned due to the effort of dems tho
Oct 19th 2018
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      Other than Stacy Abrams, I really haven't seen the issue addressed
Oct 19th 2018
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           im attacking posters on here? by engaging in normal dialogue?
Oct 19th 2018
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                the party just dedicated an entire week to DNA results
Oct 19th 2018
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what are you doing to help?
Oct 19th 2018
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tennessee invalidates thousands of new registrations in maj black county
Oct 19th 2018
11
RE: the repub war on democracy should be a front page issues in every na...
Oct 19th 2018
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      Does dnp need me to tell them that kemp remaining
Oct 20th 2018
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In Leaked Audio, Brian Kemp Expresses Concern Over Georgians Exercising ...
Oct 23rd 2018
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Voting While Black...is a felony (c) Ohio and Wisconsin
Oct 23rd 2018
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Judge moves to block Georgia election officials from tossing out absente...
Oct 24th 2018
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Judge declines Kemp’s request to pause absentee ballot injunction
Nov 01st 2018
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Federal judges order Ohio to allow purged voters back in
Nov 01st 2018
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How to Punish Voters
Nov 01st 2018
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In North Dakota, Native Americans Try to Turn an ID Law to Their Advanta...
Nov 01st 2018
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RE: state officials have not confirmed any pattern of fraud
Nov 01st 2018
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I have mixed feelings about purging voters who haven’t voted in 6 year...
Nov 01st 2018
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The story I heard, IRT Kemp purging voters in GA
Nov 01st 2018
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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1058121001492340736
Nov 01st 2018
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Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Repub...
Dec 01st 2018
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WSOC-TV found what appears to be a targeted effort to illegally pick up ...
Dec 04th 2018
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a truly shocking & naked power grab underway in Wisconsin. Dems won ever...
Dec 01st 2018
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They did this in NC when the GOP lost the Gov race
Dec 04th 2018
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they are doing it right now in nc *again*. for like the 5th damn time.
Dec 04th 2018
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its happening in michigan and nc right now too.
Dec 04th 2018
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      nytimes: repubs are just shoring up strength. no biggie.
Dec 04th 2018
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Florida Voted to Give Ex-Felons the Franchise. Now Republicans Are Throw...
Dec 09th 2018
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Ron DeSantis says Amendment 4 should be delayed until he signs bill from...
Dec 13th 2018
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Reeq
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1. "majority hispanic kansas city of 27k moves their *one* polling place"
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outside of the city right before election.
and before they moved it...it was located in the whitest part of the city.

https://twitter.com/DavidCayJ/status/1053279625571434498

when shit like this is blatant and commonplace...we aint even a democracy anymore.

  

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14. "I mean this is blatant even for *Kansas*"
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A state that's been no stranger to voter suppression.

Within a decade, a Republican elected official is going to make the subtext of this text in whatever area they have control over and they'll probably get away with it.

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2. "107,000 purged from Georgia voter rolls for not voting in past elections..."
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https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/412195-georgia-purged-more-than-100000-people-from-voter-rolls-because-there-didnt

107,000 purged from Georgia voter rolls for not voting in past elections: report
BY MORGAN GSTALTER - 10/19/18 09:15 AM EDT

Georgia officials removed an estimated 107,000 people from voter rolls because they decided not to vote in prior elections, according to a new report.

An APM Reports analysis found the voters were removed under the state's "use it or lose it" law, which starts a process for removing people from voter rolls if they fail to vote, respond to a notice or make contact with election officials over a three-year period.

After that three-year span, those who don't vote or make contact with authorities in two elections can be purged from the voter rolls under the Georgia law.

Such laws, generally enacted by GOP governments, have been growing more common, with at least nine states now having them, according to APM Reports.

Voter suppression has become a big issue in the Georgia governor's race, where Republican Brian Kemp is running against Democrat Stacy Abrams. Abrams would become the first black woman to serve as a U.S. governor in history if elected.

Kemp is Georgia's secretary of state, and his office oversees elections. Abrams has argued that Georgia laws and Kemp's office have acted to suppress the votes of African-Americans in the state. Kemp says his office is following Georgia law and that he has acted to prevent voter fraud.

The two are locked in a tight race that could be decided by a relatively small number of voters.

The APM investigation concluded that many people struck from voter rolls under "use it or lose it" laws do not know that they have been dropped and are likely to be surprised if they are turned away from the polls on Nov. 6.

Officials who support the laws argue that the policy helps prevent voter fraud, saying that citizens in good standing who have not turned out to multiple elections most likely moved.

  

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3. "Florida referendum would re-enfranchise 1.5 million citizens "
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I know we clown on florida alot, but this needs to be a nationwide movement; granting felons the right to vote

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/magazine/ex-felons-voting-rights-florida.html

Across the country, more than six million people have lost the right to vote because of their criminal records. More than 1.5 million of them live in Florida, a higher number than in any other state. The proposed ballot initiative would automatically restore the right to vote to people with a felony conviction who have completed their sentences. (The initiative makes two exceptions: no voting rights for people convicted of murder or sex offenses.) At the beginning of this year, with the signatures gathered, the state certified the initiative, called Amendment 4, for the November ballot.

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5. "the only thing stopping this is the high 60% majority vote threshold."
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you can thank jeb bush and the repub fl legislature in 2006 for that. a constitutional amendment they passed under the old simple majority threshold.

  

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4. "and dems continue to play defense/catchup instead of attack"
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some reports are new but a lot are the same bs going on since scotus chopped up the voting rights act in 2013

i remember holder said he was putting a group together to work on this issue. but from what i can tell, gop just does what they want
and dems may come out with a strategy to respond 9 months later



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With Democrats furious over Donald Trump, and many Republicans furious over the treatment of Justice Brett Kavanaugh, the 2018 elections are likely to see the highest turnout of midterm voters in recent history.

But those voters will be confronted by a byzantine array of voter restrictions, voter-suppression efforts, and voter discrimination standing in their way. A review by The Daily Beast found at least five voter-suppression practices in active use today. All are led by Republicans, all have disproportionate effects on non-white populations, and all are rationalized by bogus claims of voter fraud. They include:

Closing polling places in communities of color
Purging eligible voters from the rolls without their knowledge
Barring felons from voting
Voter ID laws
Eliminating early voting
Each one of these alone is troubling. In the aggregate, though, they paint an unmistakable picture of Republican efforts to hold on to power in an increasingly non-white nation by making it harder for non-white people to vote.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/republicans-have-a-secret-weapon-in-the-midterms-voter-suppression



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6. "exactly, they're playing the long game, dems are stuck on reactionary"
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https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/north-carolinas-legislature-tried-strip-power-new-governor-will-states

The fight in North Carolina played out in a special session as McCrory was preparing to leave office. The state legislature passed two laws limiting Cooper’s power before he entered office earlier last month.

READ MORE: What North Carolina’s power-stripping laws mean for new Governor

One law subjected the governor’s cabinet appointments to approval by the state senate and stripped the governor’s ability to appoint members to the influential University of North Carolina board of trustees, among other measures. The other law gave Republicans and Democrats equal control over North Carolina’s state and county elections boards, changing a 1901 law that allowed the governor to pick a majority of the elections boards’ members.

Combined, the laws left Cooper significantly weaker — and led him to sue the legislature to overturn the laws even before he took office. Cooper expanded the lawsuit after becoming governor, and the suit hasn’t been settled yet.

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8. "a lot of those were overturned due to the effort of dems tho"
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and a dem majority state supreme court. as well as dem/nonpartisan federal lawsuits.

how else do you propose dems fight it when repubs have a veto proof supermajority in the legislature after the 2010 midterms (where a lot of dem voters stayed home) and gerrymandered maps designed to keep that supermajority?

these are the consequences of not voting. we gotta stop passing off our responsibility/accountability as citizens on to other entities after the fact because of the outcome of us not participating in the process in the 1st place.

  

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9. "Other than Stacy Abrams, I really haven't seen the issue addressed"
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with too much visibility, tbh

"how else do you propose dems fight it when repubs have a veto proof supermajority in the legislature after the 2010 midterms (where a lot of dem voters stayed home) and gerrymandered maps designed to keep that supermajority?"

In one instance, your defense of the Ds is...nothing we can do about it

"these are the consequences of not voting. we gotta stop passing off our responsibility/accountability as citizens on to other entities after the fact because of the outcome of us not participating in the process in the 1st place."

next instance, you're saying it's our responsibility

kinda missing the point IMO

one of the major reasons folks don't vote is they believe their vote won't count

recent history reinforces that idea

IMO, this should be a bigger part of the D platform

+1, why do you feel the need to attack posters on this board

I'm pretty confident that alot of folks on here vote...

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10. "im attacking posters on here? by engaging in normal dialogue?"
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>In one instance, your defense of the Ds is...nothing we can do
>about it

uhm did you actually read my reply? lol. i clearly said dems fought a lot of it off by doing something about it (eg - court fights). i was asking *you* what else do you propose dems do when repubs have a supermajority? (theres political power given to election winners for a reason). i didnt see you list any proposals.


>next instance, you're saying it's our responsibility

yes its our responsibility to vote against people who want to suppress our vote. fairly common sense. that shouldnt be a news flash. and its not in opposition to anything else i said.


>one of the major reasons folks don't vote is they believe
>their vote won't count

which is how we got here. folks not voting. (i mentioned that in my reply lol)

  

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12. "the party just dedicated an entire week to DNA results"
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they could direct that energy to something more worthy

like voting rights.

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7. "what are you doing to help?"
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are you donating to the various nonprofs or legal entities fighting these obstructions in court? aclu, naacp, etc?

are you phonebanking or donating to the various secretary of state election official candidates nationwide who vow to overturn these practices if elected?

are you bringing awareness to the various pro-democracy and voter expansion ballot initiatives in fl, mi, mo, etc an helping to rally voters for them?

are you helping to elect state supreme court justices who strike down some of these tactics like the courts in pa, nc, etc?

the obama/holder redistricting group has been responsible for electing state supreme court justices in wi and nc and helping to elect state legislators and governors in crucial states to control redistricting/gerrymandering for the next decade. have you been helping them out?

the reason why repubs are even in a position to do this on a widespread level is because of people sitting on the sidelines for some very consequential last few elections and complaining but not voting or taking action. repeating/continuing the same behavior wont fix it. if you arent part of the solution...

  

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11. "tennessee invalidates thousands of new registrations in maj black county"
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https://www.localmemphis.com/news/local-news/tennessee-black-voter-project-files-lawsuit-against-shelby-county-election-commission/1529332908

shelby county is always on some fuck shit.

55k new voter registrations by a group called the tennessee black voter project. many (or all?) ruled invalid. shelby county commission wont provide access to the 'invalid' registrations in accordance with open records rules/laws. tbvp is suing.

gop has been brazen with violating elections laws in places like ks, in, mo, tn, etc...then courts ruling against them later (after they have already won the election because of those violations). for ga and in...they have actually been caught violating the same laws AGAIN even after legally mandated remedies/judgments exacted by the courts.

the repub war on democracy should be a front page issues in every national news outlet.

  

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13. "RE: the repub war on democracy should be a front page issues in every na..."
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^^^ all I'm saying

the assault on voter rights should be more visible in the D platform

reforming the electoral college, etc...

You would think this would be bullet point #1 for a party that's losing elections while winning popular votes

Gerrymandering

Redlining

etc...

datall.

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15. " Does dnp need me to tell them that kemp remaining"
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sec of state in Ga and overseeing the election
where he is the candidate (!!!!)

Is ground zero for gop fckery?

Can they not have pushed to have him recused from the gov race from day 1? Again and again they wait til the day b4 the election when the box of voter registration cards is found in the closet, and then go file the lawsuit that's gonna take 4 months to amount to possibly nothing


Edit - replied in the wrong spot
But yea i see the point of getting involved
and I donate to aclu but the issue is tactics/strategy, or lack thereof
Not canvassing, outreach,etc



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16. "In Leaked Audio, Brian Kemp Expresses Concern Over Georgians Exercising ..."
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In Leaked Audio, Brian Kemp Expresses Concern Over Georgians Exercising Their Right to Vote

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/brian-kemp-leaked-audio-georgia-voting-745711/

  

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17. "Voting While Black...is a felony (c) Ohio and Wisconsin"
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https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2012/10/18/163158185/swing-state-billboards-warning-against-voter-fraud-stir-backlash

https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2012/10/18/fraudbillboard_wide-3b545d730b903bf30ef800e97a167cfdbb863e15-s800-c85.jpg

Swing-State Billboards Warning Against Voter Fraud Stir Backlash

An anonymous "family foundation" is paying for billboards warning against voter fraud, like this one in a minority neighborhood on the east side of Cleveland. Clear Channel, which owns the space, says the anonymity violates its policies but it will not take the ads down.

Dozens of anonymous billboards have popped up in urban areas in the crucial battleground states of Ohio and Wisconsin. The signs note that voter fraud is a felony, punishable by up to 3 1/2 years in prison and a $10,000 fine.

Civil rights groups and Democrats complain that the billboards are meant to intimidate voters.

The billboards began appearing two weeks ago — 85 of them in and around Milwaukee, and an additional 60 in Cleveland and Columbus. The signs say in large white letters "Voter Fraud is a Felony!" There's a big picture of a judge's gavel and small letters at the bottom that say the ads are funded simply by a "private family foundation."

A number of liberal groups and labor organizations are demanding that the billboards be taken down.

"I think that these billboards are designed to suppress the vote. That is their intention," says Scot Ross, executive director of one of those groups, the Institute for One Wisconsin.

Ross notes that many of the signs are located in predominantly black, Hispanic and university neighborhoods.

"Just the concentration of them is a pretty good indication what the end goal is and who these anonymous billboards are targeting for voter suppression," he says. In other words, students, minorities and others who tend to vote Democratic.

And in such a close election, this has lots of people wondering who is behind the ads.

Clear Channel Communications, which owns the billboards, isn't saying. A spokesman wrote in an email to NPR that the advertiser asked to be anonymous. That goes against company policy, but he said the contract was signed by mistake and the company does not plan to take the billboards down.

"We will do all we can to ensure it does not happen again," the spokesman said.

He didn't respond to questions about why the company allowed almost identical billboards to go up anonymously in Milwaukee in 2010. They were also funded by a "private family foundation."

ColorOfChange, an online civil rights group, has launched a petition drive calling on Clear Channel to remove the ads. So far, more than 65,000 people have signed on.

"We're going to work incredibly hard to find out who's behind these," says Rashad Robinson, the group's executive director.

Even though the ads are factually correct, Robinson says, they imply that voter fraud is rampant.

"In fact, you're more likely to get hit by lightning than to have in-person voter fraud," he says. "These anonymous donors are not running billboards warning us about getting hit by lightning. They are running these billboards in black and brown neighborhoods with the real intention of scaring people."

He adds that it doesn't help that Clear Channel is owned in large part by Bain Capital, the former company of Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney — although the acquisition occurred long after Romney's departure.

To some, all of this is much ado about nothing.

Nathan Conrad, a spokesman for the Republican Party of Wisconsin, says the party has no connection to the billboards, although it does take the issue of voter integrity very seriously.

"My impression and understanding is that they simply state what the law is in the state of Wisconsin," says Conrad. "And that being said, I'm not sure how it would intimidate anyone who was not planning on voting illegally going into the election season."

Larry Gamble of Wisconsin GrandSons of Liberty, a citizens group also concerned about voter fraud, says he doesn't think the billboards are intimidating or racist. He notes that two of them are near his home, well outside Milwaukee.

Instead, he thinks the ads are educational, because they inform people who might not know that voter fraud is a serious crime.

"If it's somebody that might be coerced into trying to game the system and vote twice or manipulate the elections process somehow, it sends a very clear signal, and maybe it would be a wake-up call for that individual," Gamble says.

Even if the billboards are intended to intimidate voters, there's no evidence such tactics work — that they don't instead have the opposite impact.

A coalition of billboard opponents called Election Protection hopes so. They put up new billboards Thursday in Milwaukee and Cleveland encouraging people to vote and stand up for their rights.

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18. "Judge moves to block Georgia election officials from tossing out absente..."
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court-battles/412981-judge-blocks-georgia-election-officials-from-tossing-out-absentee

Judge moves to block Georgia election officials from tossing out absentee ballots
BY LYDIA WHEELER - 10/24/18 02:47 PM EDT

A federal district court judge said she will issue an order to temporarily block election officials in Georgia from tossing out absentee ballots or applications when a voter’s signature does not match the signature on their voter registration card.

Judge Leigh Martin May, on the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of Georgia, said election officials should have to notify voters first before they can reject absentee ballots with mismatched signatures.

May gave Georgia's Secretary of State office as well as the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), which had filed a lawsuit on behalf of the Georgia Muslim Voter Project against Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp and county registrars, until noon on Thursday to respond to her proposal.

The judge said she will then consider their suggestions and immediately enter an injunction.

"This is not meant to be an opportunity to readdress the propriety of entering the injunction — only its form," she said.

The Republican secretary of state is running against Democrat Stacey Abrams in a close race for governor.

Kemp's office directed requests for comment to the State Attorney General's Office, which did not immediately respond

ACLU's lawsuit challenges state law that allows election officials to reject an absentee ballot if they think there is a signature mismatch in the voter’s paperwork.

The ACLU said the law does not require elections officials to receive training in handwriting analysis or signature comparison, and no statute or regulation provides functional standards to distinguish the natural variations of one writer from other variations that suggest two different writers.

The civil rights group further argued in court filings that voters should be notified first and given an opportunity to appeal before their ballot is rejected.

State officials, however, argued there is no federal constitutional right to vote by absentee ballot and therefore procedural due process protections apply only to the extent that the State of Georgia has conferred the right to vote by absentee ballot through the process set forth in its election code.

May appeared to disagree.

“Having created an absentee voter regime through which qualified voters can exercise their fundamental right to vote, the state must now provide absentee voters with constitutionally adequate due process protection,” she said.

In a statement Wednesday, Sophia Lakin, a staff attorney with the ACLU’s Voting Rights Project, called the development a huge victory.

“This ruling protects the people of Georgia from those who seek to undermine their right to vote,” she said.

  

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19. "Judge declines Kemp’s request to pause absentee ballot injunction"
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https://www.ajc.com/news/local-govt--politics/judge-declines-kemp-request-pause-absentee-ballot-injunction/BxTbpmoONQkedOLM4I7v1M/

Judge declines Kemp’s request to pause absentee ballot injunction
23 hours ago
By Tyler Estep, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

A federal judge has declined to pause an injunction she ordered that changes how Georgia elections officials evaluate certain absentee ballots.

Secretary of State Brian Kemp had requested that U.S. District Court Judge Leigh Martin May stay the injunction she issued last week while Kemp’s legal team appeals the decision regarding signature mismatches to a higher court.

In an order filed late Tuesday — a week before Election Day — May said she would not do so. She wrote that granting a stay “would only cause confusion, as Secretary Kemp has already issued guidance in accordance with the injunction to county elections officials.”

“The Court finds that the public interest is best served by allowing qualified absentee voters to vote and have their votes counted,” May wrote.

Kemp’s appeal of the injunction has been docketed in the United States Appeals Court’s Eleventh Circuit. He has also asked that court to stay May’s injunction until the appeal is heard.

The injunction specifically orders the Secretary of State’s office to inform local elections offices that they should not reject absentee ballots due to alleged signature mismatches. Instead, they’re ordered to mark the ballots as provisional and give voters a “pre-rejection notice” via first-class mail and email, when possible, as well as an opportunity to resolve the discrepancy.

Absentee ballot applications with potential signature issues are to be treated similarly, according to the court. The judge’s order is retroactive, meaning it affects mail-in voters that were already rejected.

Exact numbers are hard to calculate due to variations in how county elections offices report rejected ballots. But the order — which was the result of ongoing lawsuits filed by the American Civil Liberties Union and other advocacy groups — has the capacity to affect several hundred absentee ballots statewide.

Kemp’s legal team has argued that changing the way elections officials review signatures on absentee ballots in the middle of the election season would add to those officials’ already full plate and “threaten to disrupt the orderly administration of elections.”

In the order declining to stay her injunction, May referenced multiple times a statement that Chatham County Board of Registrars chairman Colin McRae submitted in support of the plaintiffs. McRae said his office had had “no significant difficulties” implementing the new rules since they were administered on Oct. 25.

The absentee ballot litigation is just one part of a larger battle over voting rights playing out across Georgia.

The issue has drawn national scrutiny to the state this election season and focused attention on Kemp’s decision to continue as secretary of state, an office that oversees elections, even as he runs for governor. Voting and civil rights advocates, as well as his Democratic opponent Stacey Abrams, have accused Kemp of voter suppression.

  

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20. "Federal judges order Ohio to allow purged voters back in"
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https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/federal-judges-order-ohio-allow-purged-voters-back-n929526

Federal judges order Ohio to allow purged voters back in

"Every vote counts, including those cast by voters who may not have been engaged in the political process in recent years," an attorney said.

Oct. 31, 2018 / 7:03 PM CDT
By Associated Press

CINCINNATI — Federal judges on Wednesday ordered Ohio to allow voters who had been purged for not voting over a six-year period to participate in this year's election.

A divided 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel granted an emergency motion sought by voting-rights groups. The ruling overturned in part an Oct. 10 ruling by a federal judge that said voters haven't been illegally purged from Ohio's rolls.

Plaintiffs led by the A. Philip Randolph Institute in June lost their broader challenge to Ohio's election administration process as unconstitutional when the U.S. Supreme Court ruling in favor of Ohio's practices.

But they continued to challenge the confirmation notices the state sent to voters that set off the process of removing them from county voter rolls after not voting in three federal elections or taking other voting-related actions. They said the letters were too vague on letting recipients know the consequences of not responding.

"Plaintiffs have a reasonable, and perhaps even greater, likelihood of success on the merits of their claim that defendant's confirmation notice did not adequately advise registrants of the consequences of failure to respond, as the NVRA (National Voting Rights Act) requires," the court ruled Wednesday.

Judges Julia Smith Gibbons and Eric Clay formed the majority. Judge Eugene Siler Jr. disagreed, saying the plaintiff claims were "all speculation."

Republican Secretary of State Jon Husted said he wouldn't fight the order, to avoid "an unnecessary source of contention with election only five days away." Ohio's procedures will eventually be upheld again, he said, and the state is committed to making it "easy to vote and hard to cheat."

Husted is running for lieutenant governor on a ticket with Attorney General Mike DeWine, who is in a tight race for Democratic gubernatorial nominee Richard Cordray.

The voting-rights groups said that some elections in Ohio, traditionally a swing state, have been settled by small margins, and that turning away potentially thousands of voters could alter outcomes.

"The court's decision will allow more Ohio voters to have their voices heard next Tuesday," attorney Stuart Naifeh of the Demos organization said via email. "Every vote counts, including those cast by voters who may not have been engaged in the political process in recent years. ... In today's ruling, the court recognized that the right to vote is too important to allow states to take it away without giving voters meaningful notice."

Partisan fights overballot access have been playing out around the country. Democrats have accused Republicans of trying to suppress votes from minorities and poorer people who tend to vote for Democrats. Republicans have argued that they are trying to promote ballot integrity and prevent voter fraud.

The 6th Circuit panel found there wasn't an emergency need to block "purges," and that it could consider that part of the appeal later.

Husted said after the Supreme Court ruling in June that no more voters would be removed before the Nov. 6 election.

  

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21. "How to Punish Voters"
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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/31/opinion/election-voting-rights-fraud-prosecutions.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fopinion

How to Punish Voters
The prosecution of individual voters for fraud is a trend that seems intended to intimidate.

By Josie Duffy Rice
Ms. Duffy Rice is a lawyer and a criminal justice reporter.

Oct. 31, 2018

Georgia Secretary of State Brian Kemp, the chief elections official in the state, is a pioneer of present-day voter suppression. Mr. Kemp has a record of making it harder for people to register to vote, and more difficult for those voters to remain on the rolls. Since 2012, his office has canceled more than 1.4 million voter registrations. In July 2017, over half a million people — 8 percent of the state’s registered voters — were purged in a single day. As of earlier this month, over 50,000 people’s registrations, filed before the deadline to vote in the coming midterm election, were listed as on hold. Seventy percent had been filed by black applicants.

Even as Mr. Kemp claims his draconian voting policies are intended to prevent fraud, it’s clear that his real aim is to weaken black voting power in a state where political affiliation is largely dictated by race. He has warned his fellow Republicans about Democrats “registering all these minority voters.”

Mr. Kemp’s attempts to prevent people from voting exemplify the familiar ways in which access to the ballot has been restricted for people of color across the United States. But voter suppression also happens in ways that aren’t as well-known, and are even more insidious. In particular, local prosecutors have increasingly brought criminal charges against black voters and community activists for small technical infractions. They’re sending the frightening message that casting a ballot is risky — a message that resonates even when the charges turn out to be baseless and the people charged are acquitted.

In a particularly disturbing case, Olivia Pearson, a grandmother and lifelong resident of Coffee County, Ga., found herself on trial this year on charges of felony voter fraud. It began six years ago, on the first day of early voting in Georgia, when a black woman named Diewanna Robinson went to cast her ballot. Ms. Robinson, then 21, had never voted before and didn’t know how to operate the electronic voting machine, reported Buzzfeed. She asked Ms. Pearson, more than 30 years her senior, for help. Ms. Robinson would later testify that Ms. Pearson informed her where the card went in the machine and told her to “just go through and make my own selections on who I wanted to vote for.” Ms. Pearson walked away before Ms. Robinson started voting.

Almost four years later, Ms. Pearson received a letter from District Attorney George Barnhill’s office, informing her that she was facing felony charges for improperly assisting Ms. Robinson. The city councilwoman and community leader was arrested and booked. She had never been in trouble with the law, but now she found herself facing up to 15 years in prison.

Ms. Pearson was not accused of telling Ms. Robinson whom to vote for. She didn’t help her cast her ballot or even touch her machine. Prosecutors did not allege that the brief interaction between the two women impacted Robinson’s decisions in the voter booth. Rather, they insisted that because Ms. Robinson was not illiterate or disabled, she had not been entitled to even minimal verbal assistance.

It’s well known that voter suppression has taken the form of the closing of polling places, new restrictive voter ID laws, voter roll purges of thousands of eligible voters and nine-hour lines at the polls. But Ms. Pearson’s case is a reminder that it can also take the form of the aggressive prosecution of individual black voters for polling-place offenses — which in many cases appears motivated less by a sincere desire to address fraud than by a desire to intimidate.

Ms. Pearson’s prosecution was certainly unusual. Such minuscule and technical violations are almost never pursued. In fact, even in cases where there is clear misconduct, local prosecutors often don’t pursue voter fraud cases. For example, in North Carolina, prosecutors refused to pursue charges against a woman who pretended to be her dead mother so that she could vote for Donald Trump twice. Cases like Ms. Pearson’s typically result in administrative or civil sanctions by the state board of elections or the attorney general’s office. But although both of those bodies declined to pursue a case against Ms. Pearson, prosecutors still decided to file criminal charges.

But Ms. Pearson’s case, while extreme, can nonetheless be seen as evidence of a disturbing trend. Kristen Clarke, president and executive director of the Lawyers’ Committee for Civil Rights Under Law, said prosecutors are increasingly preying on “respected community leaders” in rural areas where they “anticipate people will not be able to shine a bright spotlight on what’s happened.”

When residents in Quitman County, Ga., elected a majority-black school board for the first time in 2010, Mr. Kemp’s office and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation sent armed investigators to interrogate residents about voter fraud and ultimately charged 12 organizers. One Quitman resident, Debra Dennard, was charged with two felonies for helping her partly blind father fill out his absentee ballot. Lula Smart was accused of assisting voters by carrying their sealed absentee ballots to the mailbox. She was charged with 32 felony counts. If convicted, she faced over 100 years in prison.

Conservatives often claim there’s a need for new laws and more punishments because of voter fraud. After losing the popular vote by three million votes, President Trump claimed — without a stitch of evidence — that millions of people had voted illegally.

But Mr. Kemp’s own aide testified just last year that they “haven’t had illegal votes in Georgia.” Even the conservative Heritage Foundation’s voter fraud database, intended to showcase “nefarious election activity,” includes less than 20 voter fraud cases in Georgia, over two decades and out of tens of millions of cast votes.

And though Mr. Kemp contends he’s concerned about electoral integrity, Politico reported that he was the only state election official in the nation to refuse the Department of Homeland Security’s offer to provide additional election security for the 2016 election. (He said he made that decision because the Department of Homeland Security told him his state was not a target of the Russian election interference operation. Later, a Justice Department indictment said it was.) Meanwhile, Mr. Trump still rejects the evidence that Russia interfered in the 2016 election.

It’s not hard to conclude that what Mr. Trump, Mr. Kemp and their ilk are worried about is not voter fraud but access to the ballot for minorities and Democrats. This attitude helps explain why Ms. Pearson was apparently the first person ever tried for “improper assistance in casting a ballot,” phrasing that does not even appear in Georgia’s criminal statutes. (Prosecutors eventually dropped that charge, after the defense said that the state had “attempted to fashion a criminal offense by cobbling together parts of four statutes.”) Over the next two years, Ms. Pearson navigated two trials, two defense counsels, three dropped charges and one hung jury. Finally, in late February, after a 20-minute jury deliberation, she was acquitted of all charges. Six years after her brief interaction with Ms. Robinson, she was finally free.

“This was without a doubt a racially motivated targeted prosecution of a woman who was exercising her right to get out the vote in her community,” said Sarah Geraghty, managing attorney at the Southern Center for Human Rights and one of Ms. Pearson’s lawyers.

“I was tried because I’m black and outspoken,” Ms. Pearson told me.

The acquittal was a victory for Ms. Pearson. But it was also a victory for voter suppression. As Election Day approaches, it’s essential to remember that consequences of prosecutions like hers radiate far beyond the defendant, making entire communities question whether it’s worth the risk to engage in one of the most sacred rights in a democratic society.

As Ms. Clarke at the Lawyers’ Committee put it, “Even when these prosecutions result in acquittal, the damage is done.”

  

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https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/30/us/politics/north-dakota-voter-id.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

In North Dakota, Native Americans Try to Turn an ID Law to Their Advantage
By Maggie Astor
Oct. 30, 2018

FORT YATES, N.D. — Nobody in the squat yellow house serving as the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe’s get-out-the-vote headquarters knew its address.

It was on Red Tail Hawk Avenue; they knew that much. But the number was anyone’s guess. Phyllis Young, a longtime tribal activist leading the voter-outreach effort, said it had fallen off the side of the house at some point. Her own home has a number only because she added one with permanent marker.

This is normal on Native American reservations. Buildings lack numbers; streets lack signs. Even when a house has an address in official records, residents don’t necessarily know what it is.

“We know our communities based off our communities,” said Danielle Ta’Sheena Finn, a Standing Rock spokeswoman and tribal judge. “We know, ‘Hey, that’s so-and-so’s house; you go two houses down and that’s the correct place you need to be.’”

Yet under a law the Supreme Court allowed to take effect this month, North Dakotans cannot vote without a residential address. Post office boxes, which many Native Americans rely on, aren’t enough anymore.

The Republican-controlled state legislature began debating this requirement just a few months after Heidi Heitkamp, a North Dakota Democrat, won a Senate seat in 2012 with strong support from Native Americans. That race was decided by fewer than 3,000 votes. Ms. Heitkamp is now seeking re-election in one of the nation’s most aggressively contested elections, and she is trailing her Republican opponent, Representative Kevin Cramer, in the polls. And once again, she is looking to Native Americans for a strong vote: there are at least 30,000 of them in North Dakota.

Supporters of the address requirement say it is needed to prevent voter fraud and has nothing to do with Ms. Heitkamp. Native Americans, noting that state officials have not confirmed any pattern of fraud, see it as an attempt at voter suppression.

But in these final days before the election, their tribal governments are working feverishly to provide the necessary identification, and some Native Americans believe their anger could actually fuel higher turnout.

“I’m past the point of being upset over it,” said Lonna Jackson-Street, secretary and treasurer of the Spirit Lake Tribe. “I’m more excited about the outcome, because I think we’re going to bring in numbers that we’ve never seen before.”

If that happens, it will be because of a considerable expenditure of time and resources on the part of the tribes and advocacy groups supporting them.

Tribes have extended their office hours and worked around the clock to find efficient ways to assign addresses and issue identification. They are providing hundreds of free IDs when they would normally charge at least $5 to $10 apiece. The Turtle Mountain Band of Chippewa Indians printed so many IDs that the machine overheated and started melting the cards.

“What people out there don’t understand is how much it costs a tribe to make sure that each and every individual tribal member has that right to vote,” said OJ Semans, co-executive director of Four Directions, a Native American voting rights group working with tribal leaders. “The tribes have invested thousands of dollars, whether it’s equipment, man-hours, meetings. This has not come cheap.”

State officials say it is easy for anyone without a residential address to get one. In a letter to tribal leaders last month — just after the United States Court of Appeals for the Eighth Circuit let the requirement take effect, in a decision later affirmed by the Supreme Court — Secretary of State Al Jaeger’s office wrote that voters could contact their county’s 911 coordinator, describe the location of their home and have an address assigned “in an hour or less.”

In practice, it isn’t always so simple.

Voters’ experiences have varied greatly based on which county they live in. In Rolette County, where the Turtle Mountain Reservation is, they have been able to get addresses from the county and IDs from the tribe without much red tape. But at Standing Rock, in Sioux County, the 911 coordinator is the sheriff, Frank Landeis. That’s a deterrent to people who are afraid to interact with law enforcement, much less tell the sheriff where they live, and Sheriff Landeis is not easy to reach.

When Ms. Finn called him on Oct. 12, three days after the Supreme Court ruling, he was out. On Oct. 15, he said he was transporting prisoners and could not assign addresses that day. He was also unavailable when The New York Times called on Friday.

And in an episode recounted independently by Ms. Finn, Mr. Semans and Ms. Young, a tribal elder, Terry Yellow Fat, got through to Sheriff Landeis only to be assigned the address of a bar near his house. Mr. Semans worried that, in addition to playing into stereotypes about Native Americans and alcohol, this could expose Mr. Yellow Fat to fraud charges if he voted under an address he knew was incorrect.

So, with help from Four Directions and others, some tribes are creating addresses themselves — and preparing to do so until the polls close.

Geographic information experts at Claremont Graduate University in California overlaid voting precinct maps on satellite images of the reservations and assigned each precinct one address. Voters can now point to their house on the map and be assigned the precinct address plus a unique identifier: -001, -002, and so on. Tribal officials will be stationed at every reservation polling site on Election Day with a form letter on tribal letterhead, ready to assign an address and issue identification on the spot.

Four Directions informed Secretary Jaeger of this plan in early October and asked him to endorse it. In his response, which his office provided to The Times, Mr. Jaeger declined, saying that whether tribes had the authority to create their own addresses was a question beyond his office’s purview. He added, however, that he could not “dictate the style or format of the identification used by a tribal government if it contains the required voter information,” suggesting that a letter with a handwritten address should be as valid as an ID card.

The pace of working with potential voters has been relentless for the tribes. Ms. Jackson-Street said Spirit Lake had identified and was trying to reach 211 members without residential addresses, in addition to printing ID cards for members who had addresses but no document showing them. Robin Smith, the tribe’s enrollment director, said last Tuesday that she had been too inundated with ID requests to budge from her chair all morning.

Merle White Tail, 50, had no street address, so Ms. Smith assigned one. Grant Cavanaugh, 32, had an address on file but didn’t know what it was, so she looked it up. Darien Spotted Bird, 21, had an ID card that misspelled his address, so she printed a new one.

Then there are more subtle problems. For instance, while Sioux County does not offer early voting, it does — like all North Dakota counties — allow early, no-excuse-needed absentee voting, which is functionally almost identical. But Mr. Semans said that when one woman went to the county auditor’s office and asked to vote early, the auditor, Barbara Hettich, simply told her there was no early voting and didn’t mention the absentee option. (Ms. Hettich did not respond to a request for comment.)

Later, when Ms. Young filled out an absentee ballot, Ms. Hettich told her she had to use blue ink or the ballot would not be counted. But literature on the secretary of state’s website says ballots must be filled out in black ink. Mr. Semans ping-ponged back and forth between Standing Rock and Bismarck, trying to get a guarantee that ballots would not be thrown out because of ink color. On Friday, Lee Ann Oliver in the secretary of state’s office told The Times that both blue and black were acceptable.

The scene at the get-out-the-vote headquarters in Fort Yates last Monday showed how hurriedly the whole effort there had been put together. The room was mostly empty. There was a small table, a couple of armchairs, some old swivel chairs, all delivered the day before. The team was trying to create a voter database from a list of people who bought propane last winter. The phones were not hooked up yet.

But soon, canvassers would be fanning out across the reservation, knocking on doors. This year’s Miss Standing Rock, Wanbli Waunsila Wi Eagle, 18, filmed a public service announcement urging her peers to vote. Ms. Finn asked the principals of the reservation’s three high schools to excuse age-eligible seniors from class to get IDs and vote. On Election Day, eight vans will shuttle people to and from the polls.

“The right to vote can be taken for granted until someone tries to take it away from you, and then it can be the reason you do vote,” said Jodi Gillette, a Standing Rock member who worked for the Interior Department under President Barack Obama. “Essentially, someone is saying, ‘Sit down and shut up.’ And we’re tired of it.”

  

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24. "RE: state officials have not confirmed any pattern of fraud"
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...same folks that will turn around and deny climate change...

SMH.

BTW, the Spirit Lake Tribe filed a lawsuit to stop the voter ID law...strange this article didn't mention it

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23. "I have mixed feelings about purging voters who haven’t voted in 6 year..."
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or whatever they use.

It’s fucked up to purge voters who don’t vote

and it’s fucked up to not vote.

Why not vote and make it harder for them to do this shit?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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25. "The story I heard, IRT Kemp purging voters in GA"
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they used some arbitrary number as you alluded to

...hadn't voted in 6 years...

or whatever

but they were sending out mailers that looked like junk mail, and people just throw them away...you know...like most people do with junkmail

https://whowhatwhy.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/06/image3-5.jpg

^^^Ohio is on the same $hit

"How can he do that? Legally savvy readers may know that the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 prohibits canceling the registration of a voter who chooses not to vote.

However, in June of this year, the Supreme Court said election officials can purge voters if they miss elections and don’t return that postcard, but only if the failure to return the postcard is a reasonable indication the voter has moved."

LOL, and the way they are using it is still illegal

There are people that are active voters that are still being included in this bull$hit purging...just sayin'

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26. "https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1058121001492340736"
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https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1058121001492340736

  

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https://www.salon.com/2018/11/30/evidence-of-fraud-mounts-in-uncertified-north-carolina-race-won-by-republican/

Evidence of fraud mounts in uncertified North Carolina race won by Republican
A narrow victory by Republican Mark Harris may be thrown out amid evidence of fraudulent absentee voting

IGOR DERYSH
NOVEMBER 30, 2018 9:55PM (UTC)

Investigators have found mounting evidence of fraud in a North Carolina U.S. House race that a Republican won by 905 votes.

Earlier this week, the bipartisan North Carolina board of elections unanimously voted not to certify the results in the state’s 9th congressional district after a Democratic member cited unspecified “unfortunate activities.”

The Washington Post now reports that the board has no plans to certify Republican Mark Harris’ win over Democrat Dan McCready while it investigates whether “hundreds of absentee ballots were illegally cast or destroyed.”

The board is reviewing statements from voters in rural Bladen and Robeson counties. According to the Post, voters said in their sworn statements that people came to their doors and asked them to hand over their absentee ballots. Some said the people even filled out the ballots for them. It is illegal to turn in someone else’s ballot. Other voters said they received absentee ballots even though they had not requested them.

“I filled out two names on the ballot, Hakeem Brown for Sheriff and Vince Rozier for board of education,” Bladen County voter Datesha Montgomery wrote in her statement, according to the Post. “She stated the others were not important. I gave her the ballot and she said she would finish it herself. I signed the ballot and she left. It was not sealed up at any time.”

At least five other people said that visitors came to their doors and offered to fill out their ballots for them.

“She said she was there to get older people to vote,” Emma Shipman, 87, told the Post. “She was kind of pushing me to do it. … I thought about that woman every day. What was she doing?”

The elections board is also reviewing “unusually high numbers” of absentee ballots cast in the county, both in the general election and in Harris’ May Republican primary win over incumbent Rep. Robert Pittenger, who lost by 828 votes. In the primary, Harris won 96 percent of absentee ballots in Bladen County, a much higher rate than he got in the overall vote, WFAE reported. He won just 62 percent of the other votes in the county. A whopping 22 percent of voters cast absentee ballots in Bladen County in that primary, compared to less than 2 percent in any other county in the district.

Investigators are also looking at why a large number of absentee ballots were requested but not submitted in both elections.

“There are patterns that are at odds with behavior of North Carolina voters,” election law expert Gerry Cohen told the Post. “It’s a whole series of suspicious events.”

Pittenger told Spectrum News on Thursday that the allegations of fraud in his district have been “out there.”

“We were fully aware of it,” he told the outlet. “There are some particularly unsavory people, particularly out in Bladen County, and I didn’t have anything to do with them.”

The Post notes that the elections board referred similar reports in Bladen County to prosecutors.

Dallas Woodhouse, head of the North Carolina Republican Party, has accused the board of a partisan campaign even though it includes four Democrats, four Republicans and one unaffiliated voter.

“There is nothing Democratic or Republican in demanding light be shone on any illegal activity that may have gone on for years in Bladen County,” Democratic lawyer John Wallace told the Post. “Nothing less than the people’s faith in our democracy is at stake.”

The elections board can indefinitely hold up the certification of the results and can also refer any matters for prosecution to state and federal prosecutors. It also has the power to call for a new election.

There is another bit of drama in the mix. North Carolina judges threw out a law passed by the Republican-majority General Assembly that created the elections board to limit new Democratic Gov. Roy Cooper’s power. As a result, the current board will be dissolved next week. It’s unclear what will happen with the investigation and the certification of the results once that happens.

  

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WSOC-TV found what appears to be a targeted effort to illegally pick up ballots in NC-09.

One collector said after picking up ballots, she didn't mail them. She said she gave them to a man reportedly connected to Republican Mark Harris' campaign.
https://t.co/OhRRGgf50J

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1069931826670522368

  

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28. "a truly shocking & naked power grab underway in Wisconsin. Dems won ever..."
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Long twitter thread on what's happening in Wisconsin by GOP officials.


BREAKING—as in breaking democracy: a truly shocking & naked power grab underway in Wisconsin. Dems won every statewide race this Nov. Now, the GOP unveiled sweeping bills to straightjacket the Gov & AG, stomp on early voting, & lock in power on state Sup Court. Votes THIS TUE. 1/

https://twitter.com/benwikler/status/1068778197888786433

  

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30. "They did this in NC when the GOP lost the Gov race"
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Not sure what ended up happening but the Assembly tried to strip all the power from the Gov before he was sworn in.

The balls of it all. Smh.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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32. "they are doing it right now in nc *again*. for like the 5th damn time."
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https://twitter.com/PoliticsWolf/status/1069968098109874178

good thing dems have a solid majority on the nc supreme court that has been thwarting this shit. wi and mi not so much.

the only reason these repubs even have these legislative majorities or supermajorities (in nc) is because of anti-democratic/unconstitutional gerrymandering. like democrats won 56% of the state legislative popular vote in wisconsin but only got like 35% of the seats. similar stories in nc and oh.

dems prolly woulda won like 50-60 house seats in the midterm if not for extreme partisan/racial gerrymandering in tx, wi, oh, nc, etc.

and after crying election fraud up and down the country with zero evidence...repubs in nc actually got busted stealing an election with absentee ballot fraud. repubs are so corrupt they even cheated out another repub in the primary too lol.

we got repubs surgically subverting the will of the american people and they dont have a scarlet letter painted on their back by the press. all this shit should be the opening story on every major national news program morning and primetime.



  

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31. "its happening in michigan and nc right now too."
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in ohio...theyre coming up with a law that will hamper citizen-driven ballot measures (which people across the country worked to pass fair-election rules/laws in several states).

i have no idea why the media still treats the republican party as a mainstream moderate party. this is straight up anti-democratic authoritarianism.

  

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33. "nytimes: repubs are just shoring up strength. no biggie."
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https://twitter.com/NYTNational/status/1069796439780454400

that outlet needs to be burned to the ground.

these are the same folks who said trump was a dove, the fbi suspected no links between russia and the trump campaign, and trump would be the most pro-lgbt republican president of all time.

  

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34. "Florida Voted to Give Ex-Felons the Franchise. Now Republicans Are Throw..."
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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2018/12/florida-voted-to-give-ex-felons-the-franchise-now-republicans-are-throwing-a-wrench-in-that-process/

Florida Voted to Give Ex-Felons the Franchise. Now Republicans Are Throwing a Wrench in That Process.

Florida’s GOP elections chief is resisting implementation of the ballot initiative to expand voting rights.

PEMA LEVYDECEMBER 6, 2018 11:32 AM

A month after Florida voters approved a measure to restore the franchise to about 1.4 million former felons—the largest expansion of voting rights in decades—a battle over implementing that change is already beginning.

The state’s Republican elections chief is resisting swift implementation of the measure, which was approved by nearly 65 percent of Florida voters on November 6 and is scheduled to take effect on January 8. He’s asking the state Legislature, dominated by Republicans, to interpret the ballot initiative. As a result, the dismantling of one of the harshest disenfranchisement schemes in the country could be subject to delays, confusion, and lawsuits.

To those who crafted Amendment 4, the ballot language was straightforward. It read, “This amendment restores the voting rights of Floridians with felony convictions after they complete all terms of their sentence including parole or probation.” It stipulated an exception for people convicted of murder or a sexual offense.

“On January 8, anybody who has completed the terms of their sentence for an offense other than murder or felony sexual assault had their rights restored by the voters on Election Day,” said Howard Simon, who as director of the Florida ACLU helped craft and shepherd Amendment 4 to passage. But Simon, who retired last week after 21 years leading the Florida ACLU, predicted that there might be trouble ahead. “I’m not naive,” he said in an interview with Mother Jones on the day he stepped down. He predicted that the state Legislature, which does not convene until March 5, might try to muddy the waters. Legislation could bog down rights restoration or sow enough confusion that some ex-felons are deterred from registering.

This week, the first signs of obstruction arose. The secretary of state, Republican Ken Detzner, told the media on Tuesday that he believes the ballot language is unclear and, rather than give guidance to the elections supervisors, he wants the state Legislature to weigh in. “We need to get some direction from them as far as implementation and definitions—all the kind of things that the supervisors were asking,” he said. “It would be inappropriate for us to charge off without direction from them.”

Before the Legislature potentially steps in, implementation of the initiative will get its first test at the county level, where supervisors of elections, who run voter registration in each of Florida’s 67 counties, will make decisions about how to enact the measure. Some elections supervisors, who met in Sarasota this week for their mid-winter conference, have voiced frustration at the lack of guidance from Detzner, as the Tampa Bay Times reported:


“They wouldn’t give any direction to us, and they didn’t provide a timeline,” said Polk County elections chief Lori Edwards.

“It’s typical,” said Manatee County Supervisor Mike Bennett of the state’s response, and predicted: “It’s going to hit the fan.”


Some counties say they will allow former felons to begin registering on January 8, but others may not. That could lead to lawsuits over the disparities in people’s voting rights based on the county where they live. Michael McDonald, a University of Florida professor and an expert in elections, predicted Tuesday that Detzner’s “resisting implementation of the restoration of felons voting rights…is going to lead to costly litigation for the state, with voters footing the bill.”

State Sen. Dennis Baxley, the Republican who will lead the committee with jurisdiction over the issue, has been noncommittal on whether legislation is needed to implement the sweeping rights restoration passed by the voters. “How do you evaluate eligibility?” Baxley told the Tampa Bay Times. “I still have some questions…What were the terms of their sentence? Do they have to meet probation? Did they complete their debt to society or not?”

To Simon of the ACLU, the answers to those questions are obvious. The terms of a sentence are whatever the judge ordered, including any time in prison or on probation and any payment of restitution to victims. In Florida, the state Supreme Court approves initiative language before amendments can appear on the ballot. The court unanimously approved the Amendment 4 language in April 2017 as clear and specific. “The title and summary would reasonably lead voters to understand that the chief purpose of the amendment is to automatically restore voting rights to felony offenders, except those convicted of murder or felony sexual offenses, upon completion of all terms of their sentence,” Justice Fred Lewis wrote in his opinion.

Amendment 4 replaced a system of mass felon disenfranchisement in effect since the earliest years of Jim Crow. After the Civil War, Florida reluctantly granted African Americans the franchise as a condition for rejoining the union. But it inscribed in its new state constitution an expansion of felon disenfranchisement aimed at taking away the voting rights of newly freed slaves. Anyone convicted of a felony in Florida had his voting rights permanently revoked. At the same time, the state expanded the number of crimes that would count as felonies and created a system of county criminal courts intended to convict African Americans of crimes such as “larceny, malicious mischief, vagrancy, and ‘all offences against Religion, Chastity, Morality, and Decency.'” During Reconstruction, black men accounted for 90 percent of Florida’s new prison population.

Ex-felons could get their right to vote back, but they had to go through a bizarre process that involved individually petitioning the governor and his cabinet for clemency. There was no established standard for governors to approve these requests, so people’s right to vote was at the mercy of their whims. (In 2018, a federal judge found the process unconstitutional, but it remains in place as the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals determines whether to keep it in place for people convicted of murder or sexual offenses who are not covered by Amendment 4.)

More than 100 years after Reconstruction, the tough-on-crime policies of the 1980s and 1990s caused Florida’s prison population to explode, with a disproportionate impact on African Americans. By the time voters approved Amendment 4, 1.5 million Floridians—including 20 percent of voting-age African Americans—were disenfranchised.

The voters “took control of the constitution and went over the heads of the politicians and finally addressed this lingering problem in Florida,” Simon said. Amendment 4’s language “is self-enforcing, it is automatic, it says that voting rights shall be restored, that the disqualification from voting shall end. I mean, I don’t know what part of that is unclear at all. So I don’t think it needs legislation.”

  

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35. "Ron DeSantis says Amendment 4 should be delayed until he signs bill from..."
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Ron DeSantis says Amendment 4 should be delayed until he signs bill from lawmakers

http://www.tampabay.com/florida-politics/buzz/2018/12/13/ron-desantis-says-amendment-4-should-be-delayed-until-he-signs-bill-from-lawmakers/

  

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