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mista k5
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"Using Oddjob was cheating and I don't care"


  

          

Great interview with the develops of Golden Eye 007

https://melmagazine.com/an-oral-history-of-goldeneye-007-on-the-n64-129844f1c5ab

Pretty long read so wont bother swiping it.

This game was so fun, solo was great but multiplayer was where it was. This has been said before but its crazy that multiplayer was a last minute addition that the developers basically snuck in.

This was basically peak gaming for me. Perfect Dark was great and a lot of improvements were made to multiplayer that made it fun but it just wasnt the same. I could never get into Halo.

Its still fun to play goldeneye on emulators. There are even some great mods that blend Golden Eye and Perfect Dark.

proximity mines were my preferred weapon.

  

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I was a beast in my group
Aug 23rd 2018
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facility is an awesome level
Aug 23rd 2018
3
the O.G. inverted controls
Aug 23rd 2018
2
i havent been able to get with the controls of modern shooters
Aug 23rd 2018
4
knew this was about goldeneye from the OddJob get go
Aug 23rd 2018
5
he was banned from our house game
Aug 23rd 2018
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basically
Aug 23rd 2018
7
Yep. No Oddjob was the standard rule in the dorms back in the day.
Aug 23rd 2018
9
Yeah we def frowned on anyone choosing Oddjob
Aug 23rd 2018
10
I love the line from the dev who said he'd pick Jaws out of spite
Aug 23rd 2018
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lol for real
Aug 23rd 2018
14
no Oddjob, no kneeling
Aug 23rd 2018
18
LoL
Aug 23rd 2018
8
Automatically pressed the reset button if someone selected him
Aug 23rd 2018
12
hahaha
Aug 23rd 2018
16
Man, I took my nephews to Comic Con Boston two weeks ago.
Aug 23rd 2018
13
its a great game
Aug 23rd 2018
17
We played facility, one shot kill ALL THROUGH COLLEGE.
Aug 23rd 2018
15
i never once played Goldeneye and its still great. here's why:
Aug 23rd 2018
19
The options man, the options they crammed into that thing
Aug 23rd 2018
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It's not just the multiplayer stuff; they really were clever at solo
Aug 23rd 2018
22
      im getting tempted to give the solo game a go
Aug 24th 2018
23
would of loved to see CoD borrow from Goldeneye
Aug 23rd 2018
21
I just Ebay won a cobbled together system, with the game, and 4 controll...
Aug 24th 2018
24
nice, hope it doesnt have any limp joysticks
Aug 24th 2018
25
      Just looked on Gamestop
Aug 24th 2018
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           every dollar counts
Aug 24th 2018
27
Using Oddjob Was a Certified Bitch Move
Aug 25th 2018
28
those knives sounds were so satisfying though
Aug 27th 2018
29
Thought this post was about a dude getting work off a new job site...
Aug 27th 2018
30
confession: ive always sucked at the solo game
Aug 28th 2018
31
has anyone played the xbox live version that leaked?
Feb 22nd 2021
32

Nodima
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1. "I was a beast in my group"
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It's always weird to think about how this kind of gaming just isn't a part of my life anymore, nobody I know as an adult plays video games or if they do it's all online shooters or sports games. I probably couldn't be caught dead playing a split screen game, either. But it was such a novelty to plug four controllers into a console and huddle around a 19" CRT back then...


I called the Facility level the "Fakillity" because of how beastly I was on it. One thing that never gets brought up with the N64 controller - and why I think it gets so much hate - is that it was inadvertently designed for left-handers. I was a beast in every first person game I played for that console in a way I've never been since.


I'll also take Golden Gun or License to Kill in the Library, but my move was generally just straight up Death Match in the Facility playing as 006.


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mista k5
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3. "facility is an awesome level"
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hiding in the bathroom was fun, wether it was planting proximity mines on its way there or hiding in a stall with pistols. when i found out how to jump back into the vent i thought it would be a killer advantage but it wasnt.

caverns was dope too.

theres something about being able to play in person with people. even if split-screen doesnt make sense in this type of game it did add to the fun.

dk mode and paintball was funny too.

  

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2. "the O.G. inverted controls"
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mista k5
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4. "i havent been able to get with the controls of modern shooters"
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5. "knew this was about goldeneye from the OddJob get go"
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will check out your interview..


goat game... so many great times with friends.

  

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6. "he was banned from our house game"
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only punks chose oddjob. Picking him was a good way to get thrown out of the game.

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mista k5
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7. "basically"
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kneeling was fair game though

  

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9. "Yep. No Oddjob was the standard rule in the dorms back in the day."
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10. "Yeah we def frowned on anyone choosing Oddjob"
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I love that game though, still do. I tried playing with friend's recently and they couldn't get into it. I was still having fun like the old days. But I'm good so that might be a factor. Shout out to my cats who love the sound of that 44 magnum barking.

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11. "I love the line from the dev who said he'd pick Jaws out of spite"
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Just to prove he had the skills


That was a move I'd pull on Oddjob selectors for sure


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mista k5
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14. "lol for real"
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i think at some times i would pick odd job to rile my brother up. he'd get mad then get oddjob and would get even angrier when i beat him.

  

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18. "no Oddjob, no kneeling"
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honestly that should be assumed regardless...

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8. "LoL"
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12. "Automatically pressed the reset button if someone selected him"
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Not up in here!!!

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mista k5
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16. "hahaha"
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i had some cousins that would straight jack the cartridge out or throw the remote when they lost

  

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13. "Man, I took my nephews to Comic Con Boston two weeks ago."
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There was a stall that had a 64 set-up with Golden Eye.
I whipped their little asses real quick, but they couldn't get enough.
Now I have to grab them system.

  

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mista k5
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17. "its a great game"
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the graphics are funky for now and i think the old school controls would throw current gamers off but its definitely still fun.

the interview is great because it gives some insights into some of the weird things in the game that made it great.

being able to shoot objects was so random but also great.

  

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15. "We played facility, one shot kill ALL THROUGH COLLEGE."
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It was just weird because it would be dudes in a room playing and drinking and a whole bunch of other dudes AND girls watching. Weird great times.


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19. "i never once played Goldeneye and its still great. here's why:"
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one of the best ways to measure how dope a game was, at least back in the late 90's/early 00's, was if you could watch other people play and be invested just as much as the players and be having fun not even touching the controller.

like someone said earlier, whole dorm room full of people when only two or four people are playing.

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20. "The options man, the options they crammed into that thing"
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in 2018 niggas like oddjob, golden gun only modes, etc...would be paid DLC, LOL.

Kudos to that whole team, you can tell how much love that game got during development

  

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22. "It's not just the multiplayer stuff; they really were clever at solo"
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Still a ton of stuff in Goldeneye and Perfect Dark that you just don't see in modern shooters, or even a lot of shooters that followed in their generation. The difficulty isn't just enemies that take more bullets or do more damage or less ammo or body armor on the ground, but completing extra tasks, finishing the level in an increasingly tight amount of time while still having to do more, things that would totally changed how you moved through a level and whether a decorative room on Agent was suddenly the most important room in the world on 007 mode.


There's another line from this interview when they get to talking about how speedrunning has kept this game relevant in the modern era more than anything else; these guys put a level in the game (Facility, again) that was incredibly important in terms of learning mechanics, weapons and enemy behavior, had a pretty good number of side rooms containing items you needed to proceed, and one of the cooler end-level set pieces in games (especially consoles) to that point...and then said do it all in under two minutes if you want to truly be 007.


They still don't make games like that often, they just get "harder".


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23. "im getting tempted to give the solo game a go"
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21. "would of loved to see CoD borrow from Goldeneye"
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features like paintball mode, one shot kill, and the ability to limit guns (all pistols/ shotguns)

instead the CoD developers were too busy adding features people werent asking for

  

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24. "I just Ebay won a cobbled together system, with the game, and 4 controll..."
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For just under $100, including shipping.
To surprise the crew with at homecoming...for some 'bonding'.
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25. "nice, hope it doesnt have any limp joysticks"
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26. "Just looked on Gamestop"
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I only saved $15

  

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mista k5
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27. "every dollar counts"
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28. "Using Oddjob Was a Certified Bitch Move"
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If someone picked Oddjob, the rest of us would team up and just hunt him, just to discourage them from picking him again

GoldenEye was THE game. Licence to Kill on any level (especially the facility). Regular mode was OK, but people would hover around the flak jackets until they reappeared

I was NICE with the sniper rifle. Would pick a spot and just pick people off.

And the funniest shit ever is Licence to Kill mode, when someone had the ill automatic weapon and you run up behind them and chop them in the back of the head.

And the knives were the hardest shit EVER

  

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29. "those knives sounds were so satisfying though"
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after a couple of hours we would switch to slappers only or knives.

  

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30. "Thought this post was about a dude getting work off a new job site..."
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I'm out of the loop w/ gaming.

  

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mista k5
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31. "confession: ive always sucked at the solo game"
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i fired it up yesterday and got stuck on 00 Agent Dam lol 3 tries

  

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mista k5
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32. "has anyone played the xbox live version that leaked?"
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it leaked a few weeks back. i kinda had to/been wanting to get a new laptop and did so this weekend. looks like the specs should be good enough to give it a try.

https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/goldeneyes-xbox-remaster-has-leaked-online-and-its-fully-playable-on-pc/

  

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