I remember the first post (or the first I can remember) talking about Young MA. I was with the jokes as much as everyone else over a couple of lines in the song that was posted. I will say with 100% realness that since then, I have come around on her. She's dope. She can definitely rap. I'm not saying she's Top 5 dead or alive or anything like that, but I dig her. I ended up going down a rabbit hole of YT videos and that led me to download her albums off Spotify and give them an honest listen. She has an ear for beats, man...and she's got prolly 8-10 songs that are absolute ass-kickers. I'm a fan.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

In the 00’s, I didn’t rock with him at all other than “Breathe” and a few other verses here and there.

In the 10’s, he’s been one of my favorite rappers. All 3 Soul Tapes and Summertime Shootouts got heavy play from me.

I am an early 00's fabolous fan. didn't really get into the mixtapes. listened once and kept moving.


though now I am curious to listen again.


werd.

joint he did with Jadakiss.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

College Dropout Kanye was transformative for me, I had him up there amongst my favorites; Mos, Andre, Black Thought...etc.

I find him unlistenable now.

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i will not let finite disappointment undermine infinite hope
- Cory Booker

Football is a simple game; 22 men chase a ball for 90 minutes, and at the end the Germans always win
- Gary Lineker

I through on Life of Pablo this morning, he (MC, not producing) is the worst part of several good tracks on that album.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

Can't listen to new Kanye at all.

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I hope you live a life you’re proud of. If you find that you’re not, I hope you have the strength to start all over again.

— F. Scott Fitzgerald

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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

But otherwise everything 808s and after I'm all set.

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but its been over for a while now

i was very anti cash money and the hot boys when they came out. probably took me until carter 3.

Gillie Da Kid is supposed to be the Ghostwriter for the first two Carters

Or is this just all rumor?



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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

to be fair, i started listening to him with carter and forward. havent gone back to his older stuff.

>Gillie Da Kid is supposed to be the Ghostwriter for the first
>two Carters
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>Or is this just all rumor?

I don't think there was ever confirmation one way or the other though.

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And his output was so prolific that it would be silly to assume otherwise.

Curren$y also has some claim to ghostwriting some portions of Tha Carter 2, and I'd fully believe that Wayne heard those dudes working their own material out and strong-armed some ideas from them for his own projects.

But the Gillie situation is one of those "if you wrote that, why did your own music flop so hard?" arguments that makes it uninteresting to me. Funnily enough, if he hadn't tried so hard to have his own rap career I'd have an easier time believing it.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

... and no more than literally 4 minutes ago I saw someone's post on Facebook that said "Is it just me or is Young MA fire ?!"

Legit no more than 4 minutes ago. No bullshit.

So weird.

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it's been all over my Twitter timeline.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

But still, 4 minutes apart ? Eerie. Haha.

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i hate trippling hi hat strip club trap music with a passion... and dont fuck with Migos imitators at all...but im waiting for this Take Off solo... lmao... i rock with these niggas now like a mug..

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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

i dont like the genre as a whole and was skeptical, then i heard them and i was like, nah, fuck it, these dudes have ENERGY.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

Wayne started in like 2012 when I realized that his stuff is mostly fun and harmless, and far preferable to some recent mainstream hip-hop developments. I think I would've come around on him anyway though. He's funny.

Chainz I came around on after hearing his verse on De La's "Whoodeeni". I was like wait this dude can actually rap huh. I still don't love his solo work (not a huge trap fan) but I still check for all his verses whenever I see him featured on a song, or see a new song from him ... just cause he's actually way better on the mic than I originally thought.

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i think his de la feature might be what got me to give him a chance too. i was avoiding him based on just his name (kind of ironic). havent checked out his solo work but i sure love hearing "2 chainz" before he starts a guest verse lol.

>i think his de la feature might be what got me to give him a
>chance too. i was avoiding him based on just his name (kind of
>ironic). havent checked out his solo work but i sure love
>hearing "2 chainz" before he starts a guest verse lol.

Haha yes that always excites me now. For example he had a great verse on Statik Selektah's most recent album. And 2ish years ago right before De La's album I probably would've just skipped that song altogether or skimmed through it just because of his involvement.

I also have a high level of respect for him due to his previous life as Tity Boi. What a fucking fantastic rap name. Haha.

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At some point I realized I was rapping his verse word for word every time I listened to the song.

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Titty Boi because of the name. Even if he one day changed it, he would still always be the guy who thought Titty Boi was a good rap name.

But I can't pretend like I don't turn up his verses any time he shows up.

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Twitter: @tyrcasey

But I think dude can rap and kills his guest spots.

Lurk everyday.. Post once a month..

king of cameo verses these days

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Prolly more like a 360. I rocked his So Far Gone tape hard then lost interest with his albums.

I think it’s more of him as a person than his music tho. That Gods Plan video and hearing about him showing up at a sick girls bedside for her birthday this morning has made me a fan.

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me too. I really disliked Drake, especially back when I’d see that damn “last name evah...” sprite commercial before every movie and NBA game.

IYRTITL really changed my mind.

And Scorpian been on repeat.

Him and 40 really have a unique sound together. I’m fascinated by all that bit-degrading, vocals on top mixing stuff. Never wouldn’t thought I’d be into Drake on all levels: music, personality, and even engineering like that.

>I think it’s more of him as a person than his music tho.
>That Gods Plan video and hearing about him showing up at a
>sick girls bedside for her birthday this morning has made me a
>fan.

This too.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

im expecting i will like the album more when i revisit it

Don’t do it for me at all.

Folks love that sound but it does nothing for me. It’s fascinating how that sound has become popular.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

and the whole CO controversy vs his kingpin shtick, i was like nah. but due to his ear for beats, tenacity, survival of 50's attempted assault on him, improvement in songwriting and subject matter, and sheer consistency, i fux wit dude.

I dug it, but it sounded just like every other kingpin track out there
Didn't pay him any mind after that

Couple of years later, Deeper Than Rap drops

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Been a Ross head ever since

That shit never made me feel one way or another about Ross. I really don't expect most rappers to be real.
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"To Each His Reach"

but.....

Fuck aliens.

I also always say that he needs to pick beats for Nas because his non trap beats would fit Nasir perfectly.



Since 1976

He still has maybe two songs on every album that i fkn loathe, but he's low key turned into a day-one listen for me at this point...

I still see through what he's doing, but I can't deny his vibe anymore. Happily, after Birds in the Trap I went back to his old stuff to see if my tastes had just changed but nope, his Yeezus era stuff was way try hard and trash.



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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

it still took him a while to really find his voice but that Codeine WIthdrawl mixtape was such a turning point in his career.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

My younger brother recommended listening to them years ago aaand it just wasn't for me.

Somehow, I gave Flower Boy a chance on Google Play lastyear and was blown away. Probably my favorite release of 2017. Dude is talented.

Streets won't let me chill.

i think i tried to listen to goblin and i couldnt get with it at all.

flower boy had such great reviews so i gave it a try and it was great.

There were a few joints on Cherry Bomb that made me think "maybe he's turning a corner here"
Then Flower Boy came out and was great.

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Though I caught it with Wolf. Flower Boy was next level, though.

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My opinion changed when my niece forced my to listen to Flower Boy.

Ever since, I at least check for him. I'm not saying I like every verse or song, but I check for it and MOST of it is good.

But yeah, I definitely saw how his early work and antics turned people off.

Happy 50th D’Angelo: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/track/d-50

that’s right, bitches

haha

Like. I never paid attention to her before now.

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-Warriorpoet415

https://astackofwax.com/

#2dopebrothersandastackofwax

https://www.instagram.com/thirtythree.three/


http://soundcloud.com/rayandersonjr

not the era of minaj who dropped the verse in Monster, but this one.

i think Trin just does/says shit to be contrary Haha

the original question was, what rapper have you done a 180 on?
me, “nicki Minaj”

I never listened to her in the past. I only started because of all the smoke she’s been getting. My conclusion is that she’s a good rapper. Now. If you have a problem with me liking her now rather than...then- that’s your problem not mine. But that’s my 180, nigga...

I’ll listen to what she has to say. She’s a good rapper...

same epiphany dstl1 had...

carry on

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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

Never really liked them, but I love to work out to their music.

Stir Fry goes hard in the GYM!



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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

he makin good records

Double 0
DJ/Producer/Artist
Producer in Kidz In The Hall
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Knew he had skill but that album with the Pharrell cut on it was prolly the first time I really listened to his album.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

I'm not mad at his pre-Blue Slide Park stuff, nor that album, but it is very, very, very not for me. About two years after that though, after camping with TDE and Odd Future in California for long stretches, he now makes some pretty fun and sometimes interesting music.


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"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
http://www.popmatters.com/pm/archive/contributor/517
Hip Hop Handbook: http://tinyurl.com/ll4kzz

its weird


cuz i don't usually care about a rapper's personality or their personal live shit



But dude is such an unending herb that I can't possibly listen to any of his verses with a straight face

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my sense of what kanye was about did not start to come around until like, 2, maybe 4 years ago and even then I had to work backwards

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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

Like 100 years from now it would be a classic?

Maybe dude wasn’t into rap?

How do you miss out on his albums that pretty much changed the sound of hip hop

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>How do you miss out on his albums that pretty much changed the
>sound of hip hop

i was not into anything outside of electronic music for a long fucking time EVEN THOUGH my roots were in hip hop.

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When the first three albums were dropping I was in a different place musically - if it was not DnB or grime or some early pre-dubstep stuff I was not open to it even though my musical roots have a wide base, even though I spent a lot of time listening to jazz, rock, beats, etc during that time. Kanye just wasnt in my lane in the early days.

when I listen to music now I hear the past, present and future - seriously, most of the listening to music becomes distracting because I'm always hearing some old sample or riff or lifted reference that gets me digging

I was also kinda snobby about stuff at the time, or rather, when something is BIG and Popular I can't get into it because I am always dissapointed and left saying "yo, is this it?" shit just gets hyped up for me so my expectations are always off so I've learned to just come around on my own with music stuff, I still havent watched Lemonade, heard an early Jay Z album from beginning to end, etc...

I finally got into Kanye around 2014, I had just gotten a new job in an industry I was trying hard as fuck to break into after grinding for years, I was about 2 weeks in and just thinking about the fact that dreams attained are not always satisfying so I was sitting just kinda like "the fuck we gonna do?" when I heard

Workin' this grave shift and I ain't made shit
I wish I could buy me a spaceship and fly past the sky, oh
I've been workin' this grave shift and I ain't made shit
I wish I could buy me a spaceship and fly past the sky

I just leaned back and took that shit in for a second - I mean, its talking about working retail but I felt that shit.

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I was really ambivalent about him before. I couldn't have picked him or his voice out of a lineup. Any verse I had heard from him had never moved me in the slightest.

So when I saw cats on here giving props to "AstroWorld," I got curious. I still don't think the cat can rap very well but that album is very, very listenable for me. No flows but he's got some talent.

Ye...
so I decided to peep closer

I definitely had him lumped in with all the tyga, yg, tydollasign an all them

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>Ye...
>so I decided to peep closer
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>I definitely had him lumped in with all the tyga, yg,
>tydollasign an all them

It was easily dismissed cause it sounded like all the other trappy shxt.

I actually listened to the 'feel' of it, and it was refreshing to hear one of these young nxggas actually sing/talk about having a FEELING about someone.

The Kendrick co-sign also gave it some weight.

After that I started giving him more of a chance.

IG: amadu_me

"...Whateva, man..." (c) Redman

I got his signature J's...may as well check out his music, lol.

...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

Peace,

Spirit (Alan)
http://wutangbook.com

came around on.


I guess UGK in general (I know. I know)



Was young and heavy in my Lesson days back then. Rawkus then LB, Justus League. Super angsty and its cringe to go back and read some of my shit.

The turning point was first reading Menphyl and K orr's takes on Pimp and them.

The more I read, the more I understood. They were such important voices to the board back then, man. Not going against the grain for the sake of doing so, but offering a perspective that balanced and only made this place better. It made me seek out UGK, Three Six, Geto Boys etc




I miss the pre-social media internet. The niche forum communities everywhere. I don't post in the Lesson as often. But it will always have a very special meaning to me.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."