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Vector
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"Poll question: Would you pay off your (not good with money) SO's credit card debt?"
Fri Jul-27-18 10:22 AM by Vector

  

          

You're in a good relationship and you have money in the bank. Your SO, who is not very good with money, has a credit card debt of about $5000. You can easily pay it off. Would you?

Edit - assume the SO has never, ever hinted at or expected this action.

Poll result (15 votes)
Yes (2 votes)Vote
No (11 votes)Vote
Depends (2 votes)Vote

  

  

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Marriage or just SO?
Jul 27th 2018
1
SO, but a strong, trusting relationship
Jul 27th 2018
3
      There’s no financial gains or losses in trust.
Jul 27th 2018
6
           same
Jul 27th 2018
7
Hell-to-da-muthafukkin-NAW! ! !
Jul 27th 2018
2
Maybe.
Jul 27th 2018
4
Let's say you've been thinking about it for a while
Jul 27th 2018
5
if you do it, treat it as a gift
Jul 27th 2018
8
^
Jul 27th 2018
9
I've done it....the responses should be interesting
Jul 27th 2018
10
Would you do it again?
Jul 27th 2018
12
possibly
Jul 27th 2018
17
Was it the right thing to do, on reflection?
Jul 27th 2018
15
      honestly hard to say
Jul 27th 2018
18
           I like to think that your selflessness will be rewarded some day
Jul 27th 2018
26
           thanks....i hope so too lol
Jul 27th 2018
39
           salute
Jul 27th 2018
33
                daps
Jul 27th 2018
41
we gotta be basically married
Jul 27th 2018
11
^^^
Jul 27th 2018
13
So you would if you were engaged?
Jul 27th 2018
14
      yeah i probably would. i know engagements fall apart as well
Jul 27th 2018
21
No.
Jul 27th 2018
16
when we wer dating...I paid her bills so she could pay her debt off
Jul 27th 2018
19
I have and would not do again...
Jul 27th 2018
20
end post
Jul 27th 2018
22
RE: I have and would not do again...
Jul 27th 2018
27
This:
Jul 27th 2018
42
yes...
Jul 27th 2018
23
Hell no
Jul 27th 2018
24
Nah. Don't enable his or her behavior.
Jul 27th 2018
25
I assume "bad w money" means makes enough but wastes alot
Jul 27th 2018
28
Can you help someone change or do they have to do it themselves?
Jul 27th 2018
32
      They've gotta put in the work; that's where the growth happens
Jul 27th 2018
36
Why are you doing it?
Jul 27th 2018
29
Interesting. Thanks.
Jul 27th 2018
30
lol @ ethical fap
Jul 27th 2018
31
you ever help
Jul 27th 2018
34
because I can...
Jul 27th 2018
35
I'm neither pro nor con
Jul 27th 2018
40
Great questions! What is the root?
Jul 27th 2018
53
i think i would only ever help with student debt
Jul 27th 2018
37
if i had the money and the pussy was fire.
Jul 27th 2018
38
The day that the last payment on the loans is made:
Jul 27th 2018
43
      lol
Jul 27th 2018
50
It depends if it would solve the problem.
Jul 27th 2018
44
It depends if it would solve the problem.
Jul 27th 2018
45
Why not give a 0% interest loan?
Jul 27th 2018
46
That's what I think
Jul 27th 2018
47
It's the "reduces stress" part I want to emphasize
Jul 27th 2018
55
If you're EVER in that sitch..please record her response when
Jul 27th 2018
48
      that's the thing.
Jul 27th 2018
49
Yes
Jul 27th 2018
51
Only if I was whipped
Jul 27th 2018
52
Teach her to fish. Don't just give her money.
Jul 27th 2018
54
thats why you don't GIVE her the money
Jul 27th 2018
56
debt? $5000 total? please...
Jul 29th 2018
57
Nah. I would help them design a budget tho
Jul 29th 2018
58
Reading this again, you forgot the "FUCK NO!" option
Jul 30th 2018
59

MEAT
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1. "Marriage or just SO?"
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Vector
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3. "SO, but a strong, trusting relationship"
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6. "There’s no financial gains or losses in trust. "
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So no. I would not. Not in a non marriage capacity.

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7. "same"
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2. "Hell-to-da-muthafukkin-NAW! ! !"
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I done heardt war stories about ninjaz payin off dey jawn debt, den Shorty breakin up wit'eem on some "on to the next" type shit.










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4. "Maybe."
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It depends on the person, our relationship, how much I trust them, why we need to pay it off now all of a sudden, etc.

  

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Vector
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5. "Let's say you've been thinking about it for a while"
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and you know they are not money grabbers who will run off as soon as it's done.

  

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8. "if you do it, treat it as a gift"
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dont expect it returned or any assurances

meaning if she drops you right after oh well

  

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9. "^"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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10. "I've done it....the responses should be interesting"
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cept mine wasn't a situation where I was really 'able' to
I just made it happen

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12. "Would you do it again?"
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17. "possibly"
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15. "Was it the right thing to do, on reflection?"
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18. "honestly hard to say"
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Like... most of me is kicking myself because I'm in a hole and need to rescue myself but I rescued my SO

hindsight is ....idk....like at the time, it was done for a specific reason with the intentions on US being able to move forward with our plans

but that didn't happen......and it was all for nothing on my end


and I can't say right now that I wouldn't do it again because I ALWAYS try to do all that I am able to do for my SO...i'm selfless in some regards to my own detriment but it also strengthens me in an odd sorta way

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26. "I like to think that your selflessness will be rewarded some day"
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It's quite admirable what you did because it was for the relationship.

  

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39. "thanks....i hope so too lol"
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33. "salute"
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I felt that whole statement

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41. "daps"
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11. "we gotta be basically married"
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like either married or a matter of when and not if

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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13. "^^^"
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14. "So you would if you were engaged?"
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21. "yeah i probably would. i know engagements fall apart as well"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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16. "No."
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My S.O. knows that she's gotta handle those student loans *before* we married.

  

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19. "when we wer dating...I paid her bills so she could pay her debt off"
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but paying directly no
there is no incentive to it before you are married

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20. "I have and would not do again..."
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In my situation, I felt we were building towards something
which didnt end up materializing..

Turns out that the monetary situation she was in was indicative of
her habits and attitudes towards money and overall responsibility

Ironically, when she came into an unexpected financial windfall afterward
and I asked about reciprocity being that I put myself in the hole trying to
remedy her situation- you can guess what her response was..

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22. "end post"
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>In my situation, I felt we were building towards something
>which didnt end up materializing..
high probability

>Turns out that the monetary situation she was in was
>indicative of
>her habits and attitudes towards money and overall
>responsibility
if you really want to help someone, help them change their habits

>Ironically, when she came into an unexpected financial
>windfall afterward
> and I asked about reciprocity being that I put myself in the
>hole trying to
>remedy her situation- you can guess what her response was..

  

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27. "RE: I have and would not do again..."
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>Turns out that the monetary situation she was in was
>indicative of
>her habits and attitudes towards money and overall
>responsibility

I feel you on this. It's not just money.

  

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42. "This:"
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>Ironically, when she came into an unexpected financial
>windfall afterward
> and I asked about reciprocity being that I put myself in the
>hole trying to
>remedy her situation- you can guess what her response was..
>

  

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23. "yes..."
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24. "Hell no"
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besides, if they are bad with money, what is someone else just paying it off for them going to teach them? And what kind of precedent does that set for the rest of your relationship possibly moving into marriage?

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25. "Nah. Don't enable his or her behavior."
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28. "I assume "bad w money" means makes enough but wastes alot"
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If that's the case, I'd need to see a change or positive trend in behavior first and then I might provide some assistance... I'd still want her to pay most of it off, though, just so she can appreciate the difficulty of paying off debt, which may motivate her to never get in that position again.

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32. "Can you help someone change or do they have to do it themselves?"
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36. "They've gotta put in the work; that's where the growth happens"
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In this kind of case, the SO has to build that discipline muscle by repeatedly saying no to "wants" until she's paid her debt down.

You can provide emotional support and such but giving too much financial aid will undermine her growth.

<-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
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29. "Why are you doing it? "
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Because you can?

Are you flexing on her?

Is this a PERSONAL flex, where you're just proud of yourself that you're in the position to do it? Are you getting your ethical fap on for doing a majorly good deed?

I'm not casting apsersions on your motivations either way, but I think this is something you need to think about, as to why you're motivated to do this instead of maybe walking your S.O. thru the process of getting a Capital One card and fixing her shit herself?

My WIFE tried to help me with some shit - actually, she INSISTED. And it pissed me off, because there was a personal hurdle I was trying to overcome and I didn't want any interference. I wanted to know for myself that I hadn't become so dependent that I couldn't resolve _______. Sometimes even GROWN FOLKS need that.

It's definitely something yu'all should talk about first.

Why isn't she good with $$$? Where does that come from? Is it fixable or is this gonna be her whole thing down the line? What are your expectations if you do this for her? What if she end up 'chalked' again?

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30. "Interesting. Thanks."
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31. "lol @ ethical fap"
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34. "you ever help "
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an old lady across the street?

You know you did something good, and you be all proud of yourself?

#EthicalFap

and it's cool. I was just puttin some humor on it.

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35. "because I can..."
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assuming their share of the bills are paid...

It’s nothing. I’m sure I have some form of vice that he’s not pleased with too.

  

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40. "I'm neither pro nor con"
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aint nobody perfect. <--look at that grammer <--look at that spelling.

LOL

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53. "Great questions! What is the root? "
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Giving people money sometimes does not change their circumstances. There are usually some deep seeded issues.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

  

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37. "i think i would only ever help with student debt"
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38. "if i had the money and the pussy was fire."
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43. "The day that the last payment on the loans is made:"
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> _if i had the money and the pussy was fire_

  

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50. "lol"
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44. "It depends if it would solve the problem. "
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If she got cc debt because she had medical bills that she needed to use cc's to pay. Sure.

If she has it because women be shopping and that hasn't changed, paying off the debt wouldn't necessarily fix anything. She could just as easily run it back up.

Paying off the debt would only just create a moral hazard where she doesn't really learn anything about overspending.

SOmeone else said it, the big question is what's your motivation for doing it and would it solve anything in the long term to do.

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45. "It depends if it would solve the problem. "
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If she got cc debt because she had medical bills that she needed to use cc's to pay. Sure.

If she has it because women be shopping and that hasn't changed, paying off the debt wouldn't necessarily fix anything. She could just as easily run it back up.

Paying off the debt would only just create a moral hazard where she doesn't really learn anything about overspending.

SOmeone else said it, the big question is what's your motivation for doing it and would it solve anything in the long term to do.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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46. "Why not give a 0% interest loan?"
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On the other hand if 5K is short money to you it could be a lot less hassle to pay it off and keep it moving.

Seriously, if I had a SO that i expected to be with for a long time and that 5K payment would decrease stress then I'd probably just do it.

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47. "That's what I think"
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>Seriously, if I had a SO that i expected to be with for a long
>time and that 5K payment would decrease stress then I'd
>probably just do it.
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55. "It's the "reduces stress" part I want to emphasize"
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>>Seriously, if I had a SO that i expected to be with for a
>long
>>time and that 5K payment would decrease stress then I'd
>>probably just do it.
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As some people said this could INCREASE stress in your relationship too, only you really know.

Examples:
You could resent her because she took the money.
You could try to leverage the payment to "win" other arguments.
She could get back into 5K debt and you could feel like you wasted money.
She could resent you because she feels your using the money as leverage.
ETC.

So a lot of this comes down to how YOU feel using YOUR money. If you honestly feel fine with it and think she'll be fine with it then do it.

Money should be used to decrease stress.

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48. "If you're EVER in that sitch..please record her response when"
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it's time to collect payment and post here or anywhere lol


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49. "that's the thing."
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you could do it for the noblest reason(s), for someone who deserves it, and they could be like 'Well I didn't ask you to do that.' and they'd be right.

and thass cool, if you're cool with that. I just recently came around to the fact that I can be petty, and if you don't meet my 'gratitude reserve' or you have prior offenses, I'm not above throing that shit in your face. But that's flawed, and that's me right now.

But money is the ultimate relationship breaker-upper probly besides infidelity. If this is gonna alleviate a potential situation or whatever...only YOU really know.

just don't rush into anything. and do it for the right reasons. protect yo heart, three stacks...or sumthin.

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51. "Yes"
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This is suppose to be an SO right ? Then do it.

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52. "Only if I was whipped"
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I paid a bill off for my ex because she had that bomb phenom

wish I hadn’t tho

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54. " Teach her to fish. Don't just give her money."
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I gave my sis 5k. I really believed that she needed financial help and gave her a LARGE sum of money. I am thinking she would be responsible, pay down her car, resolve some debts with her apartment.

3 years later, she was living with me and driving my car. She used the money to start her "real estate business", she was fired from her job and evicted from her apartment. She paid me back half. But she was no better than if I never gave her the money.

It was my wake up call that she is very irresponsible and she feels no remorse, worry or concern about her circumstances.

People in these situations are often unaware of how to manage money. I liken it to the lottery winners who lose everything.

Take a good look at her habits.

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56. "thats why you don't GIVE her the money"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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57. "debt? $5000 total? please..."
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that is just one of the balances on my many, many cards

she sounds like a winner by the most average standards

you sound like a R29moneydiary hater...

  

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58. "Nah. I would help them design a budget tho"
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Peace,

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59. "Reading this again, you forgot the "FUCK NO!" option"
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I assumed 'fiance' at first. Just an SO is even worse.

  

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