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"Childish Gambino "This Is America" (peak okayplayery levels)"


  

          

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I came here to make a post saying how thoroughly 'playery
May 05th 2018
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the second one....
May 05th 2018
2
song is fire to me.
May 06th 2018
3
oh thats dope
May 06th 2018
4
"Get your money black man"
May 06th 2018
5
this dude can do anything.
May 06th 2018
6
people calling him a genius for this....
May 06th 2018
7
Seems like the "genius" tag is tossed about pretty loosely these days
May 06th 2018
8
People are calling him a genius because he is one
May 06th 2018
9
pretty much.
May 06th 2018
14
Yep. I believe he will EGOT by the time his career is over
May 06th 2018
15
i can see the EGO. not the T tho.
May 06th 2018
16
      I could see him writing music for a musical though.
May 06th 2018
19
impossible to doubt at this point.
May 06th 2018
21
yeah, i don't get it
May 06th 2018
10
      it happens.
May 06th 2018
22
           explain it to me please
May 06th 2018
23
                Yeah it's a mix
May 07th 2018
31
                Hiro Murai directed Never Catch Me
May 07th 2018
93
                     okay, makes sense
May 07th 2018
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                On a base level America’s dissociative disorder
May 07th 2018
33
                     Good read
May 07th 2018
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I don't think we'll ever be able to "recapture" black imagry
May 06th 2018
11
Guitar player at the start is Trayvon's dad.
May 06th 2018
12
WHOA.
May 06th 2018
13
Proof
May 06th 2018
17
I was wrong and circulating internet rumors. Mods correct please
May 06th 2018
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I was coming back in to tell you I researched it
May 06th 2018
20
No it’s not lol
May 06th 2018
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      RE: No it’s not lol
May 06th 2018
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           You see his face clearly it’s obviously not unless you’re a white......
May 07th 2018
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                Verbatim: "I was wrong and circulating internet rumors. Mods correct ple...
May 07th 2018
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                     Oop
May 07th 2018
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                     so you hadn't actually watched the video or you don't know what...
May 07th 2018
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                          Watched it on twitter on vertical in feed on an iPhone 6
May 07th 2018
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                               don't get mad at me because you're dumb lol
May 07th 2018
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Donald Glover is where, and what, we thought mos def would be by now(c)
May 07th 2018
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this deserves its own post.
May 07th 2018
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Mos Def could rap better and he was far more of a threat to America
May 07th 2018
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he could probably do everything better
May 07th 2018
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DG also stands on the shoulders of MD in that regard
May 07th 2018
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Break it down for me?
May 07th 2018
30
dont strain yourself. its already being meme'd into "bolivian"
May 07th 2018
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      I usually don't Millennial-bash, but in this case...
May 07th 2018
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That beat is fire.
May 07th 2018
32
Amazing overall artist...still don't like his rapping tho
May 07th 2018
34
I feel like Donald Glover is the freest black man in America
May 07th 2018
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because he's married to a white woman?
May 07th 2018
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I don't think he is married but no.
May 07th 2018
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      Black Freedom is confidently boldly loving a black person
May 07th 2018
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           how is it freedom if you put restraints on it?
May 07th 2018
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           they persecuting Gambino on some FB page
May 07th 2018
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           well, it comes with the territory
May 07th 2018
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           LOL @ the yt dude in the photo behind him....
May 07th 2018
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           "Freedom is doing exactly what I think you should do!!" LOLOLOL
May 07th 2018
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           a kind of agree here
May 07th 2018
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The difference between him and others
May 07th 2018
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I think that is an excellent point.
May 07th 2018
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      Ye thinks because he has good taste and can dress well
May 07th 2018
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right now? maybe..
May 07th 2018
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Its the opposite. He sees the matrix lines of code and suffers through i...
May 07th 2018
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I feel like this is a prisoner of the moment take
May 07th 2018
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naw he just talented, insightful and good at execution
May 07th 2018
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i think he has mastered the art of moving in white spaces
May 07th 2018
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      Sounds right and similar to BigReg's point I wonder if...
May 07th 2018
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      Wowww. This explains a lot about your mentality.
May 07th 2018
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      You ain't got a mortgage? a career? Kids?
May 07th 2018
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           Those things r the reason u play guard dog 4 ur "Man" as you call him?
May 07th 2018
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                So you don't have any or all of those things? That would explain the
May 07th 2018
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                     That "purity" is called integrity. Something you've proven yourself devo...
May 07th 2018
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      RE: Sounds right and similar to BigReg's point I wonder if...
May 07th 2018
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      this is sad to read
May 07th 2018
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           aint it tho
May 07th 2018
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           i'm surprised why this is such a shocking statement
May 08th 2018
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                "all white ppl are racist" vs "freedom is navigating white spaces"
May 08th 2018
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                she didn't say she was shocked
May 08th 2018
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                you are absolutely right. good point.
May 08th 2018
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                RE: i'm surprised why this is such a shocking statement
May 14th 2018
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      in the corporate world isnt that also known as code switching ?
May 08th 2018
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it was interesting
May 07th 2018
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we're so thirsty for good/great content....
May 07th 2018
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This! People want to consume meaning, yet can't create it
May 07th 2018
This! People want to consume meaning, yet can't create it
May 07th 2018
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...
May 07th 2018
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All of this
May 08th 2018
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Is his music worth checking out?
May 07th 2018
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You probably won't like his first album
May 07th 2018
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work backwards not forwards
May 07th 2018
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Flight of the Navigator
May 07th 2018
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We live in two Americas.
May 07th 2018
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*row of Skull Emojis*
May 07th 2018
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May 07th 2018
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That's an awesome glimpse into White America
May 07th 2018
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I audibly stated from my cubicle "What the fuck"
May 07th 2018
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"I don't think the target audience is introspective enough for this"
May 07th 2018
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      wait...this video was intended for the white gaze?
May 07th 2018
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           How much of "this is America" needs to be explained to be Black people?
May 07th 2018
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           i thought it comes from the same place as Atlanta
May 07th 2018
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                “I wanted to show white people, you don’t know everything about blac...
May 07th 2018
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                     https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/f1/27/b5f12790717a79db3dcb09cb2e1bb5d0...
May 07th 2018
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                          Exactly what MEAT was saying in reply 71
May 07th 2018
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                          Many black people treat white people as a receptive audience
May 07th 2018
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           absolutely
May 07th 2018
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           DG pretty much says Black art will always be thru the white gaze
May 07th 2018
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Reed Richards thinks this guy is maybe stretching too much
May 07th 2018
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Read similar comments on the hiphopheads subreddit
May 07th 2018
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knew r/hiphopheads didn't sit well with me for a reason
May 07th 2018
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*sorted by controversial
May 07th 2018
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LOL
May 07th 2018
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yeah i've def been seeing a lot of #bothsides takes.
May 07th 2018
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my rambling mind got me thinking of J. Cole:
May 07th 2018
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Someone should pop up video style Reddit comments over the video.
May 07th 2018
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NOT REALLY kayplayery .... BUT IT'S FLAMES...
May 07th 2018
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"The fuck is this shit?" --first thought upon watching
May 07th 2018
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lol, it's a mess
May 07th 2018
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I do admire the freedom that it take to do this...
May 08th 2018
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think he's supposed to be bojangles
May 07th 2018
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if all you see is the dancing then you are part of the
May 08th 2018
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      No they're not. Abstraction doesn't work for everyone.
May 08th 2018
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           ok.
May 08th 2018
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           ^
May 08th 2018
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Why can't we just celebrate good thought provoking content?
May 08th 2018
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what if someone wasn't feeling it?
May 08th 2018
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Look at all the comments. Some are just TOKPR and Gibberish
May 08th 2018
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You want me to lie, bro?
May 08th 2018
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What don't you like about the video?
May 08th 2018
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      1. Song is sonically unappealing (aka it's trash)
May 08th 2018
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Isn't that the whole idea behind "thought provoking" content?
May 08th 2018
Isn't that the whole idea behind "thought provoking" content?
May 08th 2018
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Folks can respond to thought provoking content w/o going over the top
May 08th 2018
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      whats so over the top?
May 08th 2018
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           The Genius vs not a Genius comments IMO
May 08th 2018
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                yeah, that label gets thrown around a little too often these days
May 08th 2018
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                     Right. I'm just saying folks can take as step back and appreciate
May 09th 2018
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                          My wife asked me about it. She saw it but didn’t hear the music
May 09th 2018
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                               Cool. You're wife is a dance professor.
May 09th 2018
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stop it 5
May 08th 2018
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So thought has to be disagreement or negative criticisim?
May 08th 2018
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      folks can't criticize or say something negative about art?
May 08th 2018
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      Why does anything negative have to be said? This SITE -
May 09th 2018
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           you can't have a full discussion
May 14th 2018
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      generally? maybe....
May 08th 2018
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      praise be!
May 08th 2018
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      https://imgur.com/a/7hPrA8j
May 08th 2018
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This reply is insanity. Omg don't CLASSIFY this music!! Lol
May 08th 2018
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      ^^ TOKPR
May 09th 2018
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instant classic
May 08th 2018
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H.I.R.O.
May 08th 2018
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He Is Really Off? Hate I Read Okayplayer?
May 08th 2018
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Yeah, Im in this line too.
May 08th 2018
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RE: H.I.R.O.
May 08th 2018
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Im familiar wit Hiro Murai, it was your acronym format that mislead Kats...
May 08th 2018
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that guy has some of THE best vision out there. glad he's getting more p...
May 14th 2018
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No one is talking about Kanye anymore lol
May 09th 2018
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GOOD, fuck that nigga
May 09th 2018
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White woman version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8whgmyTNU
May 14th 2018
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Oh for fuck's sake.
May 14th 2018
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I'm mad at how lazy it is.
May 14th 2018
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Lmao.. she looks so evil when she turns around.
May 14th 2018
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I wish this was back in the film days so we could go and burn...
May 15th 2018
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I'm mad at that text at the end about thinking someone must have written...
May 15th 2018
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      RE: I'm mad at that text at the end about thinking someone must have wri...
May 15th 2018
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Yo, the black woman backlash is real!!!
May 14th 2018
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I mean... ionno
May 14th 2018
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Lol @ the reversal in the text
May 14th 2018
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Yo, she didn't even try to massage it. Just flipped it. LOL.
May 14th 2018
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      All of the Black writers are men except for Stefani Robinson, right?
May 14th 2018
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i tried to tell y'all it's blatantly obvious they don't know black women
May 14th 2018
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I think he's gone through a personal evolution.
May 14th 2018
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Yeah. He grew up. You watch his early interviews and he
May 14th 2018
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      Exactly.
May 14th 2018
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real talk, this shit with Glover is wild corny. ashy even.
May 14th 2018
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that movie really reminds me of 2016's 'Little Boxes'
May 14th 2018
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You will have a hard time making a movie with a inter-racial couple
May 14th 2018
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      I'll have to peep it
May 14th 2018
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           Cynac is weird man.
May 14th 2018
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                He currently has a late night show
May 15th 2018
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Homeboy grew some facial hair and reinvented his approach
May 14th 2018
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"Wyatt Cenac" movie:
May 14th 2018
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homegirl sound hurt
May 15th 2018
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I showed my homey. First words were: "Is this a parody?"
May 16th 2018
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because some of y'all need reminding
Mar 04th 2020
180

Teknontheou
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1. "I came here to make a post saying how thoroughly 'playery"
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his 1st performance on SNL was.

  

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2. "the second one...."
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>his 1st performance on SNL was.

  

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3. "song is fire to me."
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4. "oh thats dope"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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5. ""Get your money black man""
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This feels like getting on an expensive cycling bike after going over your grandparents house and being forced to ride a broken down road bike.

Bars aren't A1 but at least he's trying and making an effort say something in his music. He looks like someone that doesn't shower and shave.

  

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6. "this dude can do anything."
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7. "people calling him a genius for this...."
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8. "Seems like the "genius" tag is tossed about pretty loosely these days"
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9. "People are calling him a genius because he is one"
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He is good at everything. Comedy. Writing. Music. Acting. Rapping. Singing. TV. Movies.

Don't like this? Okay.

He's a genius, though.

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14. "pretty much. "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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15. "Yep. I believe he will EGOT by the time his career is over"
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Dude is amazing. Still hard to believe he was once Troy from Community.

  

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16. "i can see the EGO. not the T tho."
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for some reason i cant see him having any interest in theater

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19. "I could see him writing music for a musical though."
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Maybe not acting, but he's gonna do the Lion King movie so maybe he gets the stage acting bug so who knows

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21. "impossible to doubt at this point."
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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10. "yeah, i don't get it"
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22. "it happens."
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Rjcc is code for "bitch-ass troll"

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23. "explain it to me please"
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the video is cool but, genius..i don't know. kinda reminds of
me of the 'never catch me' video.

  

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31. "Yeah it's a mix"
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Of never catch me video and the Kenzo World commercial...

I think it's genius anyway. Art always borrows/steal from something else.

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93. "Hiro Murai directed Never Catch Me"
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http://hiromurai.com/music-videos/

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102. "okay, makes sense"
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the videos are similar in style

  

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33. "On a base level America’s dissociative disorder"
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Mon May-07-18 08:17 AM by BigReg

  

          

which sounds snobby smarter than what i mean, lol


You’ve got scenes of horrific violence happening in the background; mass murders, prison industrial complex, police brutality.
But Glover and the kids are dancing and entertaining right through it.

Which is kind of in the countries DNA: Romanticizing the Wild West vs Native American massacres. “Land of the Free, Home of the Brave” fight for independence vs slavery. Bringing democracy world wide vs bombing and supporting dictators that help our sphere of influence, etc. God fearing good people who want their guns as powerful and violence causing as possible, etc.

You could probably read deeper with Glover’s bugged eyes, the appropriation of African music. But there’s no more fitting visual treatment for a video called ‘This is America’ having R rated violence along with kids happily dancing around it.

  

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70. "Good read"
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Okay I can buy into it. Genius though? Maybe same message for a different audience.

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11. "I don't think we'll ever be able to &quot;recapture&quot; black imagry"
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I saw some Michael Ray Charles' work in person about a decade back
http://www.artnet.com/artists/michael-ray-charles/
And I don't think the audience of america is introspective enough to really "get" art the way artists think it's coming across

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12. "Guitar player at the start is Trayvon's dad."
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13. "WHOA."
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One Hundred.

  

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17. "Proof"
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... "A Beautiful Struggle"
https://m.facebook.com/jamelabullock
Www.reverbnation.com/jamela

MELa
Musically.Entertaining.Lyrically.Alluring.

  

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18. "I was wrong and circulating internet rumors. Mods correct please"
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That appears to be Calvin C Winbush II

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20. "I was coming back in to tell you I researched it "
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Sounded good tho
... "A Beautiful Struggle"
https://m.facebook.com/jamelabullock
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24. "No it’s not lol"
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25. "RE: No it’s not lol"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13256226&mesg_id=13256226&page=#13256300

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26. "You see his face clearly it’s obviously not unless you’re a white......"
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person that thinks all bald headed black dudes look alike lol

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27. "Verbatim: "I was wrong and circulating internet rumors. Mods correct ple..."
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It's almost as if you're purposely not reading. Which is a weird thing to do when replying.

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28. "Oop"
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... "A Beautiful Struggle"
https://m.facebook.com/jamelabullock
Www.reverbnation.com/jamela

MELa
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36. "so you hadn't actually watched the video or you don't know what..."
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Trayvon's dad looks like? Because dude in the video looks nothing like him lol

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42. "Watched it on twitter on vertical in feed on an iPhone 6"
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And relayed the in thread messaging
For being a poster that's so consistently wrong, it's weird but revealing how little you recognize someone saying they made a mistake.

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91. "don't get mad at me because you're dumb lol"
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29. "Donald Glover is where, and what, we thought mos def would be by now(c)"
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Agree/disagree?

I would never make this connection, cuz to this day I still hold MD talent level in high regard, and am almost never really impressed by anything DG. but when I see DG bout to open as lando calrissian and in general winning across the board, it definitely is a interesting comparison to think about.

And since this post mentions being -playery, might as well get into it

Did Mos just forget to secure the bag, got distracted by pussy/baby mommas/"The life", stars weren't aligned/peaked at the wrong time, or trajectory just went to where it was supposed to go?





The actual DG song/vid gets a TOKPR reply from me, so I'll leave it alone. Hope that all the attention it's getting is making kanye mad tho



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39. "this deserves its own post."
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but i agree whole heartedly. mos was great and had that intangible "it" factor. he is cool, can rap better than +90% of mofos who ever did it, can act, and sing. charisma in spades. seems like the deck was stacked for a boston...i dunno, maybe dude just didnt want it.

  

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46. "Mos Def could rap better and he was far more of a threat to America"
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55. "he could probably do everything better"
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except play the hollywood/celebrity game and not overthink things or get out of his own way



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62. "DG also stands on the shoulders of MD in that regard "
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That's got to help, if only just as a model of what *not* to do.

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30. "Break it down for me? "
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The video was short and shows an execution style murder. Why is this genius?

Did I miss something?

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56. "dont strain yourself. its already being meme'd into "bolivian""
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https://twitter.com/zackfox/status/993331811953528832


millennials- blown away by video commentary showing how distracted society is from important issues
also millennials, 2min later- distracts themselves from the important issue



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65. "I usually don't Millennial-bash, but in this case..."
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Yeah nothing about this video is groundbreaking, unique or thought provoking. I am officially old.

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32. "That beat is fire. "
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I didn’t see anything playery about the video tho.

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34. "Amazing overall artist...still don't like his rapping tho"
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He's still doing his Lil Wayne impression since the Freaks and Geeks joint. I don't care that he does it well. Shit was always corny. I prefer his other flows and singing instead. This song knocks tho and I love the change ups.


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35. "I feel like Donald Glover is the freest black man in America"
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I wish Kanye felt this type of freedom.


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37. "because he's married to a white woman?"
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40. "I don't think he is married but no. "
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Fair point and I am torn on this.

One way to massage that factoid is that dude is free enough to marry whoever he fell in love with and not feel the pressure to marry black.

The reading I am more inclined to believe is that a free black person would only want to marry black.

But I then settle on I didn't say brother was completely free, I said the freest.



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67. "Black Freedom is confidently boldly loving a black person "
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Interracial relationships signal that you still need white access in order to create and live freely. Which is still a form of slavery.

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77. "how is it freedom if you put restraints on it?"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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81. "they persecuting Gambino on some FB page"
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https://www.facebook.com/blackisbeautiful3/posts/1059298730894985

horrible

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"
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PoppaGeorge "If you're a child of the 70's, Ye looks like a p

  

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89. "well, it comes with the territory"
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anytime you try to be pro Black and have a white SO.

you gonna get that work

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101. "LOL @ the yt dude in the photo behind him...."
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But yeah...it was a whole lotta *rat tattat tata* in'nere.

LOL @ the wench in'nere callin her boyfriend a white king.
Twilight Zone shit.



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96. ""Freedom is doing exactly what I think you should do!!" LOLOLOL"
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103. "a kind of agree here"
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based off my own experiences

>Interracial relationships signal that you still need white
>access in order to create and live freely. Which is still a
>form of slavery.
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38. "The difference between him and others"
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Who want to be as free artistically or with thought is that he knows when to talk and he knows how to execute. He doesn't get in his own way as much as he doesn't let others get in his way. He knows that difference it seems. So does Pharrell.

My thing with Ye is that theres a bunch of people who are doing the things he feels he is being denied to do for certain reasons whether he feels its because he's black or a rapper or just not qualified (although he has zero self awareness for this, minus the one class he took at Fendi) and these people have the same obstacles and are doing it because they took the time to learn the craft and were humble. Even more importantly they have just executed better.


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41. "I think that is an excellent point. "
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43. "Ye thinks because he has good taste and can dress well"
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that means that he was a fashion designer. It's the same mentality almost every girl we have all met at least thrice in our lives who think because they are a stylist that they are a fashion designer. No bitch. You just assemble other peoples designs together well to make an outfit.

Thats like me buying certain side meals at restaurants and putting them on a plate to make 1 complete meal and being like look i'm a chef.


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44. "right now? maybe.."
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it's his time

and I think being on all those white shows gave him the insight how shit works and he has moved accordingly.

plus dude just makes good music.

I wasn't a fan early on but that Stay Woke song is a banger and this shit knocks too.

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45. "Its the opposite. He sees the matrix lines of code and suffers through i..."
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Kanye swears HE does but he couldn’t be further from the truth.

Kanye’s in an industry where if you churn out excellent work you’re shielded from everything(Hi Kellz). Its why he had all those tantrums during his transition to fashion; a world that has the same racial gatekeepers we deal with as black folks every day (“You ain’t got the answers Sway!”) and hit that wall.

Now he’s talking like he’s leaped over that wall into fashion greatness but his biggest coup in that world IS A BLACK DUDE SELLING SNEAKERS! LOL, like that’s never happened before, LOL. He’s back on the plantation.

Glover knows he’s on the plantation but tries to work his way around it. He’s more Chappele/Chris Rock in his views on celebrity and success and what you can and and can’t do. Its why that New Yorker profile of him earlier this year is underrated, like read between the lines:


After watching Matt Damon handle the publicity on their movie “The Martian,” in 2015, he perfected a talk-show-ready geniality. On Jimmy Fallon, he told a tale about being bit on the butt by a dog; on Conan O’Brien, about meeting a sexy coyote; on James Corden, about a seal that popped up beside his surfboard. When I wondered about the authenticity of those anecdotes, he said, “Your job is to be as interesting as possible without actually saying anything.” He grinned. “So, yeah, animal, animal, animal.”

Didn’t black people actually make “Twelve Years a Slave”? “Yeah,” Glover said. “But in the white system.” He picked up a rock from the fire pit, then dropped it and blew on his fingers. “If ‘Atlanta’ was made just for black people, it would be a very different show. But I can’t even begin to tell you how, because blackness is always seen through a lens of whiteness—the lens of what white people can profit from at that moment. That hasn’t changed through slavery and Jim Crow and civil-rights marches and housing laws and ‘We’ll shoot you.’ Whiteness is equally liquid, but you get to decide your narrative.” For the moment, he suggested, white America likes seeing itself through a black lens. “Right now, black is up, and so white America is looking to us to know what’s funny.”

“Chris Rock told me, ‘Man, they wouldn’t have let me make your show back in the day.’ I’m a little better than Chris, because I had Chris to study. And now I am actively looking for the black female to replace me.” Robinson studied him over the flames. “I’m going to die someday, I hope. Then I won’t have all this pain and anguish and pressure.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/03/05/donald-glover-cant-save-you

  

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47. "I feel like this is a prisoner of the moment take"
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48. "naw he just talented, insightful and good at execution"
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slow down the hyperbole train.

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49. "i think he has mastered the art of moving in white spaces"
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while purposefully not forgetting his black identity

not sure if i think that makes him free or not. not sure if i think anyone can actually be completely free in a capitalist society.

i think there are always some kind of puppet strings being pulled to maintain what you created.

even while i chase that freedom that i'm not sure actually exists.

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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51. "Sounds right and similar to BigReg's point I wonder if..."
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Being aware of the puppet strings makes someone "freer" than the person who doesn't acknowledge them?

I could toned down my praise and think it's cool that the brother can do network TV, release music, and dance shirtless and femininely like he don't give AF feels pretty free to me.

I am old and cynical (and invested) in thinking that you have to be able to navigate white spaces in order to have a certain amount of freedom in this country.




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75. "Wowww. This explains a lot about your mentality."
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>I am... (... invested) in thinking that you have
>to be able to navigate white spaces in order to have a certain
>amount of freedom in this country.
>



"Invested" is an extremely interesting word choice here.
This explains why you defend white people when they aren't even under attack. It also explains why you immediately attack me and anyone else who sincerely analyzes all the ways in which this system negatively impacts us as Black people and is firmly against the system of white supremacy. That frightens you b/c you're *invested* in white supremacy.
Very interesting.


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76. "You ain't got a mortgage? a career? Kids?"
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82. "Those things r the reason u play guard dog 4 ur "Man" as you call him?"
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Are any of those things why you thought you were "free" and "navigating white spaces" with your white neighbor until you found out she's racist and afraid of Black men?

You gonna blame that naivety on your kids now?


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95. "So you don't have any or all of those things? That would explain the "
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purity of your point of view. The uncompromising nature of that purity is cool and admirable, just not where I live. Good for you.

Whoever said I was free? Not me. Try again.

I think you misread that story about that experience with my neighbor (but damn you try to get some mileage out of it).

All White People are racist is one of the earliest lessons I can remember my dad teaching me. So how am I going to be surprised by the racism of any white person?

You don't know me. Which explains why you keep getting basic things about me wrong.

You, on the otherhand, keep fitting nicely into that box I see you in. Mad predictable bro.




>Are any of those things why you thought you were "free" and
>"navigating white spaces" with your white neighbor until you
>found out she's racist and afraid of Black men?
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>You gonna blame that naivety on your kids now?
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100. "That "purity" is called integrity. Something you've proven yourself devo..."
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>All White People are racist is one of the earliest lessons I
>can remember my dad teaching me. So how am I going to be
>surprised by the racism of any white person?



You tell us, because you were.


>You don't know me. Which explains why you keep getting basic
>things about me wrong.
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>You, on the otherhand, keep fitting nicely into that box I see
>you in. Mad predictable bro.
>


You just hate how right I am about you. Contradicting yourself is your idea of being unpredictable. It just makes you a hypocrite who changes your views based on who you don't like. You're terrified of living without the comfort of white supremacy, since you're invested LOL. That's why you go hard at anyone vehemently against it. Yeah you're very transparent.




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97. "RE: Sounds right and similar to BigReg's point I wonder if..."
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>Being aware of the puppet strings makes someone "freer" than
>the person who doesn't acknowledge them?

i think it goes both ways. i think some will feel freer because they can manipulate them while others will feel enslaved due to the constriction of them.

>I could toned down my praise and think it's cool that the
>brother can do network TV, release music, and dance shirtless
>and femininely like he don't give AF feels pretty free to me.

i can see that. but with him who knows what compromises he's had to make to get the access he has. i think he spoke about how Atlanta would be different if not for the gatekeepers in that GQ article.


>I am old and cynical (and invested) in thinking that you have
>to be able to navigate white spaces in order to have a certain
>amount of freedom in this country.

i feel you. i honestly can't think of anyone who has attained extreme financial success that hasn't had to maneuver through white spaces to attain it. if not them, then someone on their team. it's the reality we live in. the power structure in this country is so overwhelming white that i can't think of any path to completely circumvent it.

do i think it has to stay that way? nope. but that gets into the black wealth talk and building our own systems. not sure if that is something we'll see fully realized in our generation. but looking at VCs like Arlan Hamilton with Backstage Capital building funds with the sole purpose in investing in black founders gives me hope that its closer than most think.

plus with all the athletes & musicians dipping their toes into Silicon Valley ventures it feels like we are at the beginning stages of breaking through that good ole boys club.

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it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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104. "this is sad to read"
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>I am old and cynical (and invested) in thinking that you have
>to be able to navigate white spaces in order to have a certain
>amount of freedom in this country.
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107. "aint it tho"
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110. "i'm surprised why this is such a shocking statement"
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to so many of you.

please help me understand how you all are able to navigate this world without dealing with and maneuvering through the white power structure at some point?



the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
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125. ""all white ppl are racist" vs "freedom is navigating white spaces""
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The above statements are irreconcilable. Racism is the subjugation of non-white people, especially Black people. The very nature of it is to restrain. If one's definition of freedom is being able to appease their abuser, that is indeed very sad. Why is it sad? Because one has to stop viewing the subjugation as subjugation in order to view that as freedom. In essence, in order to feel "free" in a system of white supremacy, you have to see yourself and the world exactly as white supremacists do. That's just called being broken.


>please help me understand how you all are able to navigate
>this world without dealing with and maneuvering through the
>white power structure at some point?

No one said they don't have to deal with it. We all have to deal with it to some degree, and that is precisely why none of us are free. You omitted the part about freedom when asking this question.

references:
(1)"All white people are racist" is from reply 95
(2) Notice I said "in order to feel 'free' in a system of white supremacy, you have to see yourself and the world exactly as white supremacists do." That makes reply 96 very ironic ("Freedom is doing exactly what I think you should do" LOLOLOL"). This is sad on a whole different level, because he can see Black people boxing Black people in with mere disapproval, but simultaneously defines "freedom" as fitting into white peoples' box. He exempts those "racist" white people from criticism here. Black people get all of his criticism in this instance, because we aren't the granters of "freedom" in a racist society. Power is determining the direction of his criticism... those with the least power get the criticism b/c they can't do anything for him in his eyes except fall in line with the (racist) system in which he's invested.





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133. "she didn't say she was shocked"
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how do you know she didnt mean its just sad to see the reality spelled out that way?

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136. "you are absolutely right. good point. "
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i did make assumptions there and can see how she could have meant what you said as well. thanks.

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it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
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172. "RE: i'm surprised why this is such a shocking statement"
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>to so many of you.
>
>please help me understand how you all are able to navigate
>this world without dealing with and maneuvering through the
>white power structure at some point?
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E-commerce and Internet businesses

I can sell a product on Amazon, Shopify or my own website without having to deal without anyone knowing my race or dealing with the white power structure

  

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138. "in the corporate world isnt that also known as code switching ?"
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and in the case of this video in particular its in visual form.

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50. "it was interesting"
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and had my attention. Liked the Migos flow mixed in with the Kanye-ish 'art for art's' sake video. DG is winning and this fits in line along with everything else.

I loved the post someone else made about Mos Def and if DG is occupying a space where MD could've been. A whole different conversation but a fair comparison.

  

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52. "we're so thirsty for good/great content...."
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and all of our faves are either dumb/problematic and or not doing anything interesting

that something great gets a genius label

he's pushing the envelope and creating amazing content, but the song is okay, the visuals are great

what could make him a genius is his renaissance man efforts

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"This! People want to consume meaning, yet can't create it"


          

I find that people are yearning for emotion and purpose. So I see why this resonates. But I am obviously missing something. Because I just don't see anything with depth.

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66. "This! People want to consume meaning, yet can't create it"
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I find that people are yearning for emotion and purpose. So I see why this resonates. But I am obviously missing something. Because I just don't see anything with depth.

Rise & Shine
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105. "..."
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115. "All of this"
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Either there are different levels of genius or people forgot how to call something dope or great.

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53. "Is his music worth checking out?"
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I always thought he was a clowny type dude with no substance but this is dope

  

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54. "You probably won't like his first album"
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Because it's a lot of what you're describing. Awaken My Love and because The Internet were both good, though.

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57. "work backwards not forwards"
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his last album was 10/10

i never got into his rap but i think it makes sense to go backwards

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69. "Flight of the Navigator"
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This is a great song. Glover is great because his portfolio is deep and wide.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iPHjM19j018

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58. "We live in two Americas. "
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from a trump subreddit:

"I thought it was awesome. But I also love Donald Glover.

I have seen many takes on this video. It is very open ended. It seems to me to be, and I am saying this mainly because Kanye shouted him out, that this is a commentary on Black America.

It feels like it is talking about how black America is lying to itself about reality. Highlights gun violence, black on black crime, drug use, church, rioting, police and the degenerate rap culture that doesn't talk about the state of black America. Everyone in the video is black, which is why I don't buy the racism narrative. He is a black guy, and he is the one that shoots the church people and the unarmed guy. He is the one smoking the joint. He is the one dancing and pretending like everything is fine. There is rioting around, cars on fire, people jumping off roofs, but he is dancing, pretending like everything is fine. Then at the end, after all of it, he is running from white people, signalling that even after all the shit that happens, at the end of the day they blame it on white people.

Idk, maybe this is hopeful. It could be yet another "America is so racist" video."


uh.....sure thing Robert, you really understood the video

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59. "*row of Skull Emojis*"
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I'm dead. that is the most hilarious thing ever.

wonder if he was one of the fans of Old Glover

  

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63. ""
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60. "That's an awesome glimpse into White America"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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64. "I audibly stated from my cubicle "What the fuck""
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71. ""I don't think the target audience is introspective enough for this""
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That's what I told my wife yesterday.
Black people cant criticize white people in any way that'll cause them to introspect or even genuflect.
So making black art with the white gaze in mind seems ... tiring.

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78. "wait...this video was intended for the white gaze?"
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well fuck my shit up because if this is true I don't know what to think

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79. "How much of "this is America" needs to be explained to be Black people?"
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84. "i thought it comes from the same place as Atlanta"
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I didnt consider it to be something as an explainer for white people. huh

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86. "“I wanted to show white people, you don’t know everything about blac..."
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“I wanted to show white people, you don’t know everything about black culture,” said Donald Glover.

http://www.vulture.com/2016/08/donald-glover-atlanta.html

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87. "https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/f1/27/b5f12790717a79db3dcb09cb2e1bb5d0..."
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https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b5/f1/27/b5f12790717a79db3dcb09cb2e1bb5d0.jpg


well fuck.

How in the fuck would this even be heard considering the fact that white fragility shuts everything all the way down?

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88. "Exactly what MEAT was saying in reply 71"
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>How in the fuck would this even be heard considering the fact
>that white fragility shuts everything all the way down?

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90. "Many black people treat white people as a receptive audience"
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As opposed to a gawking gallery of consumers.
In as such they appeal to a mindset that doesn't exist and both parties are no better than they were before the interaction.

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80. "absolutely"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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83. "DG pretty much says Black art will always be thru the white gaze"
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cause America

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68. "Read similar comments on the hiphopheads subreddit"
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Most were down voted to hell but still.

It's wild reading a rap community full of people with seemingly little to no interaction with black people.

  

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72. "knew r/hiphopheads didn't sit well with me for a reason"
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you hit the nail on the head

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99. "LOL"
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>It's wild reading a rap community full of people with
>seemingly little to no interaction with black people.

  

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BrooklynWHAT
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74. "yeah i've def been seeing a lot of #bothsides takes."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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wrecknoble
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92. "my rambling mind got me thinking of J. Cole:"
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from his song 1985

"See, I've been on a quest for the next wave
But never mind, that was just a segue
I must say, by your songs I'm unimpressed, hey
But I love to see a Black man get paid
And plus, you havin' fun and I respect that
But have you ever thought about your impact?
These white kids love that you don't give a fuck
'Cause that's exactly what's expected when your skin black
They wanna see you dab, they wanna see you pop a pill
They wanna see you tatted from your face to your heels
And somewhere deep down, fuck it, I gotta keep it real
They wanna be black and think your song is how it feels
So when you turn up, you see them turnin' up too
You hit the next city, collect your money when it's due
You gettin' that paper, swimmin' in bitches, I don't blame you
You ain't thinkin' 'bout the people that's lookin' like me and you
True, you got better shit to do
You coulda bought a crib with all that bread that you done blew
I know you think this type of revenue is never endin'
But I wanna take a minute just to tell you that ain't true
One day, them kids that's listening gon' grow up
And get too old for that shit that made you blow up
Now your show's lookin' light cause they don't show up
Which unfortunately means the money slow up"

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MEAT
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73. "Someone should pop up video style Reddit comments over the video. "
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That's America.

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94. "NOT REALLY kayplayery .... BUT IT'S FLAMES..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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flipnile
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98. ""The fuck is this shit?" --first thought upon watching"
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Y'all got this. Only could take so much of a dude dancing around like he's wetted-up.

  

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106. "lol, it's a mess"
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>

  

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flipnile
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109. "I do admire the freedom that it take to do this..."
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...but lol. I just start laughing when I watch this.

  

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108. "think he's supposed to be bojangles"
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>Y'all got this. Only could take so much of a dude dancing
>around like he's wetted-up.

  

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111. "if all you see is the dancing then you are part of the "
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problem he is addressing.

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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112. "No they're not. Abstraction doesn't work for everyone. "
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“There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus

  

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113. "ok."
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the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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MiracleRic
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114. "^"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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Case_One
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116. "Why can't we just celebrate good thought provoking content? "
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Instead, we have to do one of the following, tear it down, compare, reject, rebut, rebuke, classify, marginalize, question validity, shoot the artist, etc.

How about, just admitting that the video and the artist are both dope and show some dang appreciation for the culture of Black!


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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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117. "what if someone wasn't feeling it? "
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not me, I like the song and didn't mind the video. However, why can't folks have different opinions about art?

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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121. "Look at all the comments. Some are just TOKPR and Gibberish "
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Don't lie, but at least be honest without trying to outsmart the audience or the artist
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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flipnile
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119. "You want me to lie, bro?"
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>How about, just admitting that the video and the artist are
>both dope

There's the answer to your question. Not everyone agrees. We have our own viewpoints.

  

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122. "What don't you like about the video?"
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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flipnile
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139. "1. Song is sonically unappealing (aka it's trash)"
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1 (cont'd). Completely don't get the "artistry" in a 34yo dude making teenager music. Terrible beat, lyrics and song overall.

2. Video is visually unappealing. Again, it's some dude dancing around shirtless with guns, with other people dancing in the background. About as interesting as watching a Puffy video.

3A. We've also hit a point where the bar is so low that anything "non-streets" counts as deep, pro-black masterful artwork now.

3B. Shit just isn't deep for anyone that's been paying attention the past few decades. It's deep for people that have been asleep and are just now opening their eyes.

4. Bonus: Dude "ironically" does all the shit that (I guess) he's against, like wack-ass trap music, shooting niggas, screaming bars shirtless, etc. "Ironically." Right.

  

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"Isn't that the whole idea behind "thought provoking" content? "


  

          

Like when the Cardi B album came out we was like, "That's Dope!" and that was pretty much the discussion. "Thought Provoking" by it's very description means analyzing and critiquing.


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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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120. "Isn't that the whole idea behind "thought provoking" content? "
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Like when the Cardi B album came out we was like, "That's Dope!" and that was pretty much the discussion. "Thought Provoking" by it's very description means analyzing and critiquing.


**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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123. "Folks can respond to thought provoking content w/o going over the top"
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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127. "whats so over the top? "
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no one went in on it IMO.

Some folks were like "nah, this shit wack" but most folks like it and a few didn't understand it or think it was genius levels.

you trying too hard to make it more than it is.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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129. "The Genius vs not a Genius comments IMO"
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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134. "yeah, that label gets thrown around a little too often these days"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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147. "Right. I'm just saying folks can take as step back and appreciate "
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the art and not try to judge it or critique it as if they could have made it better.
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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148. "My wife asked me about it. She saw it but didn’t hear the music"
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She’s a dance professor so she wasn’t mad at it.

She’s hype anytime she sees folks dancing or using choreography.

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149. "Cool. You're wife is a dance professor. "
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So, can you dance too? What kind of style do you both prefer. I know I'm being mosey, but this is fascinating.



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124. "stop it 5"
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a bunch of cosigns isn't "thought"

besides

this is a message board

shouldn't you be on a honeymoon or something (lets talk about THAT)?

(joking)

  

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126. "So thought has to be disagreement or negative criticisim? "
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How about deep discussion or commentary about the subject matter?


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128. "folks can't criticize or say something negative about art? "
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where they do that at Case?

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146. "Why does anything negative have to be said? This SITE -"
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stays on the negative side of review for most things. The point in this case / post is what's the goal for being negative at all. The dude made a thought provoking video and folks are debating if it should be classified as GREAT or not. How about just appreciate the ART?



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169. "you can't have a full discussion"
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if everyone agrees. the full spectrum of convo should be had. it won't all be positive.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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130. "generally? maybe...."
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who gets to decide what is deep enough?

or thoughtful enough?

let folk do what they do and contribute at the level of discourse you want

i say there are varying levels of what you desire all throughout (its not all love OR hate)

how does peanut gallery-ing messageboard comments help the quality of the exchange?

  

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131. "praise be! "
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or stfu

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137. "https://imgur.com/a/7hPrA8j"
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https://imgur.com/a/7hPrA8j













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132. "This reply is insanity. Omg don't CLASSIFY this music!! Lol "
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>compare,

This is very normal in the human sensory experience.

>reject,

You want people to accept what they don't like?

>rebut,

People tend to do this when they disagree

>rebuke,

How a minister gon tell folks not to rebuke something? lol

>classify,

So you gonna go at Itunes for calling it "rap" too? Wth man

>question validity

That's also pretty normal if people see something they feel is illogical



>How about, just admitting that the video and the artist are
>both dope



Admitting? Huh? "Dope" is subjective.


>and show some dang appreciation for the culture of Black!


My views on this video aside...
Everything with Black faces isn't positive for Black people, so we'd have to be fools to appreciate stuff solely on that basis. We can't afford to be that stupid.





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150. "^^ TOKPR"
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118. "instant classic"
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135. "H.I.R.O."
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"though time has passed, im still the future" (c) black thought

  

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140. "He Is Really Off? Hate I Read Okayplayer?"
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141. "Yeah, Im in this line too."
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Deez 2k18 acronyms is like braille 'n shit.



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142. "RE: H.I.R.O."
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https://www.sfgate.com/entertainment/the-wrap/article/Who-Is-Hiro-Murai-Meet-Director-Behind-Donald-12895134.php

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2lXD0vv-ds8

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143. "Im familiar wit Hiro Murai, it was your acronym format that mislead Kats..."
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All good.




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171. "that guy has some of THE best vision out there. glad he's getting more p..."
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he is as much a part of the success of Atlanta as anyone else

  

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144. "No one is talking about Kanye anymore lol"
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:D

  

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145. "GOOD, fuck that nigga"
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151. "White woman version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8whgmyTNU"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QW8whgmyTNU

If you made it further than 43 seconds, you're a better person than me. I find it curious that comments are disabled too.

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152. "Oh for fuck's sake. "
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153. "I'm mad at how lazy it is."
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the original is full of layers and layered meaning

this thing is so lazy its disrespectful at how lazy it is.

it would be one thing if she/they made a real for real call and response but this is the equivalent of putting on a shitty blonde wig and pointing at beyonce while screaming "I'M JUST LIKE YOU. LOOK AT ME!"

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155. "Lmao.. she looks so evil when she turns around. "
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174. "I wish this was back in the film days so we could go and burn..."
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...every copy of this shit.

I got a little angry during the ~45 seconds I watched.

  

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175. "I'm mad at that text at the end about thinking someone must have written..."
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Like it was some next level, mind blowing shit

(The original didn't drop my jaw either lyrically)

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177. "RE: I'm mad at that text at the end about thinking someone must have wri..."
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=4&topic_id=13256226&mesg_id=13256226&page=#13256442

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154. "Yo, the black woman backlash is real!!!"
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Convo I had with a homegirl who was actually at NYU at the same time as DG:

https://ibb.co/eGWMqd


I didn't think too much of it but then I watched this turrible Wyatt Cynac movie this weekend

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4848010/

And I don't know if it was because of that convo but it stood out to me that there was not a single black woman in the entire movie.

Anyway, I don't agree with homegirl but there is a kernal of something there. My writing partner at some point pointed out to me that somehow I manage to work my wife into everything I write which I wasn't even aware I was doing. Oh well.



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156. "I mean... ionno"
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While I definitely think dude has issues and users the whole “black girls didn’t like me in HS” excuse he ain’t wrong about white people.

You kiss white ass you will get ahead in this game

You show up with a white SO and you will be seen as someone they can “trust” with their money.

but Black women do it too. 2 Dope Girls and countless artist have used white ken to get shreds in this game while selling Blackness.

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157. "Lol @ the reversal in the text"
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Her: He just makes work for white people
You: But he has all black writers and cast
Her: He just makes work for black men

Lol

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162. "Yo, she didn't even try to massage it. Just flipped it. LOL. "
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168. "All of the Black writers are men except for Stefani Robinson, right?"
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If so, those statements connect pretty neatly.

  

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158. "i tried to tell y'all it's blatantly obvious they don't know black women"
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or write like they know any irl

i'm using 'they' loosely meaning the writers on the show which he is one of

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159. "I think he's gone through a personal evolution."
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If you listen to his albums in chronological order, there's a marked difference in tone and themes. His first album 'Camp' contains a lot of whining about being too white for black people, not being accepted for wearing cut-off shorts, black people thinking he was gay, etc., which resembles the Donald Glover your friend described. But a lot of that fell away with his subsequent records, and isn't reflected in his other work. 'Atlanta' and "This is America" don't feel like they came from the same person who made 'Camp.'


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163. "Yeah. He grew up. You watch his early interviews and he"
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says a lot of dumb thing you can count on young smart people to say.

Like all of the jokes that dude from this article says should be the basis for not supporting donald glover are all jokes he made in his early twenties and I am pretty sure I have made amongst friends at some point or another at that age:

http://affinitymagazine.us/2016/11/09/why-you-shouldnt-be-supporting-atlanta-or-donald-glover/

I was one of the people shocked he was capable of making ATL. But dude has put in the work as he has gotten older and seems to be coming from a solid place right now.

I am just so glad I wasn't able to have a youtube channel or blog when I was younger. I read shit I wrote here a decade ago and cringe. I am surprised my early 2000s KILF joke here never got archived.


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165. "Exactly."
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160. "real talk, this shit with Glover is wild corny. ashy even."
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it reeks of the whole "Obama being a long-eared piss colored interloper" (hi, Bin!) discussion, which also was wild corny.

though I'm about to buy a book that explores that in detail, sooooo....

I dunno about this Wyatt Cenac movie though. I mean, OK... but that's on who wrote/directed that film -- looks like a white woman (Laura Terruso), not really him (the actor). so I can't blame him for that.

besides Cenac was in Okayplayer: The Movie (Medicine for Melancholy, directed by Barry Jenkins Da God)

  

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161. "that movie really reminds me of 2016's 'Little Boxes'"
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RIP Lafayatte

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164. "You will have a hard time making a movie with a inter-racial couple"
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with black man and non-black wife that the sisters will support. Not to mad at them.

The Wyatt Cynac movie was hard to watch on Amazon Prime this weekend because he was the fuck up non-bread winner with his super successful Asian wife and that carried all sorts of undertones that there white woman director & writer didn't take into consideration IMHOP.


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166. "I'll have to peep it"
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I really really really want Wyatt's career to go somewhere. I think he took some steps that made it quiet for him. I'm thinking this because I remember being at the first 2 Dope Queens show in BK which was spun off from Wyatt's comedy night. They are killing it but hes been not making much noise.

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167. "Cynac is weird man. "
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I just have a hard time seeing him crossing over and by crossing over I mean into making black people laugh.

Everytime I see him I just want him to cut that beard.

That Littlefield show is just up the street from my house and I've only been interested in going once.


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176. "He currently has a late night show"
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on HBO that mostly focuses on proposals for police reform. Have you seen it yet?

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170. "Homeboy grew some facial hair and reinvented his approach"
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173. ""Wyatt Cenac" movie: "
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>I didn't think too much of it but then I watched this turrible
>Wyatt Cynac movie this weekend
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>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt4848010/


Directed by
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178. "homegirl sound hurt "
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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179. "I showed my homey. First words were: "Is this a parody?""
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He made it to 1:33, lol.

Then we had a 30 minute conversation about the video, so it sparked some thoughts and questions. A lot of laughs, too.


I'm somewhat offended by this video now based on how I'm interpreting it now (I've seen the whole thing).

  

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180. "because some of y'all need reminding"
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