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"Charlamagne / Kanye 1 hour and 45 minute interview...."


  

          



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He's really stupid
May 01st 2018
1
Yes he is definitely a simpleton.
May 01st 2018
3
when the kardashians throw him away...and they will...
May 01st 2018
11
The whole damned time.
May 01st 2018
74
yup.
May 01st 2018
82
Kim's been timestamping her disagreements with Kanye on social media.
May 03rd 2018
238
He is, very clearly, suffering from mental illness.
May 02nd 2018
184
      Yea true but - he can be stupid *and* suffering at the same time.
May 02nd 2018
188
           Look...
May 02nd 2018
196
                Fair enough here.
May 02nd 2018
197
                     Right.
May 02nd 2018
198
                          Yea I mean, I just hate seeing it used as a cop out.
May 02nd 2018
199
                               I guess a way to look at it is: school shooters, clearly mentally ill .....
May 02nd 2018
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                               See my response above.
May 02nd 2018
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                               I really wish you would stfu...
May 02nd 2018
206
                                    Huh?
May 02nd 2018
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                                    Dynamite drop-in.
May 02nd 2018
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                                    Chill out
May 02nd 2018
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                               Ugh.
May 02nd 2018
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                                    I guess I'm saying WE shouldn't be copping pleas for him.
May 02nd 2018
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                                         I don’t like the mental illness diagnosis because
May 02nd 2018
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                                              This is kinda my point, though.
May 02nd 2018
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                                                   I don't know if the narrative changed that much though.
May 02nd 2018
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                                                   I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed.
May 02nd 2018
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                                                        RE: I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed.
May 02nd 2018
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                                                             RE: I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed.
May 02nd 2018
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                                                                  LOL !! I actually almost did kinda overlook it but then was like ...
May 02nd 2018
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                                                                       Cool.
May 03rd 2018
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                                                   The George W thing tho... he said what we were thinking
May 02nd 2018
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can anyone give highlights?
May 01st 2018
2
oh come on lol.
May 01st 2018
4
theres nothing interesting in there fam.
May 01st 2018
8
      Hahahaha. Sounds like what I'd expect.
May 01st 2018
10
      this is exactly what it looked like when I clicked
May 01st 2018
13
      LOL
May 01st 2018
14
      lol
May 01st 2018
25
      ^^^
May 01st 2018
18
cliffnotes please?
May 01st 2018
5
Rundown of the first 15 minutes:
May 01st 2018
59
      This was glaring
May 01st 2018
73
      if we bros i should be able to talk about your kids. they my fam 2
May 01st 2018
108
37 minutes in and...he almost had me like "Yeah 'ye....I get some of it ...
May 01st 2018
6
man fuck this guy
May 01st 2018
7
lmao
May 01st 2018
9
this dudes obsession with apparel brands is officially creepy.
May 01st 2018
12
LOL
May 01st 2018
16
maybe he gets paid every time he drops their name?
May 01st 2018
17
He's the perfect mascot for the Supreme generation
May 01st 2018
128
It put me to sleep. Literally, I'm working from home today and
May 01st 2018
15
This nigga PETTY about GOAT President Obama
May 01st 2018
19
plus he wants to get into real estate development
May 01st 2018
20
Nah...Obama left BEFORE he performed...I be feelin ways bruh!!!!!!!!
May 01st 2018
23
      ^^^ This
May 01st 2018
49
Some takeaways/cliffnotes
May 01st 2018
21
Thanks for taking one for the team, I ain't listening to that shit.
May 01st 2018
33
      He’s lucky the warm weather has me in IDGAF mode at work, lol
May 01st 2018
39
TMZ.."slavery for 400 years sound like a choice"...(link)
May 01st 2018
22
dude is an idiot. a dangerous idiot.
May 01st 2018
24
Such a simpleton. A simpleton who thinks he's brilliant.
May 01st 2018
26
      Even worse, a privileged entitled simpleton who thinks he's brilliant
May 01st 2018
27
      Facts.
May 01st 2018
29
      Dunning-Kruger is in the house. He's a perfect match for Drumph
May 01st 2018
32
      there are people out here who think hes a genius smh.
May 01st 2018
28
           Also facts.
May 01st 2018
30
           You can be a genius at one or two specific things but be
May 01st 2018
125
Even if he's trolling
May 01st 2018
35
      exactly....gotta draw the line in the sand somewhere...I can't entertain...
May 01st 2018
46
      Yea and not that I'd expect anything more from him but ...
May 01st 2018
47
      dude is trolling black people in the midst of our trauma/depression.
May 01st 2018
50
           ^^^^ THIS .... plus it is clear he isnt smart enough
May 01st 2018
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           ^
May 01st 2018
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           RE: dude is trolling black people in the midst of our trauma/depression.
May 01st 2018
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           https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif
May 01st 2018
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           this sums it up
May 01st 2018
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           pretty much
May 02nd 2018
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           Honestly, I don't care about the Trump stuff
May 02nd 2018
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dude is a walking case study.
May 01st 2018
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He's very, very stupid
May 01st 2018
130
nah. it's a "money makes you more of what you already are" deal
May 02nd 2018
143
HOW is Charlemagne the logical party?
May 01st 2018
34
i think this does more for charlamagnes career then kanyes.
May 01st 2018
36
"What half do you agree with?!"
May 01st 2018
37
brotha from tmz tryna speak some sense to this nigga.
May 01st 2018
38
He said 400 years of slavery "sounds like a choice"
May 01st 2018
40
goddamn that felt great.
May 01st 2018
42
RE: brotha from tmz tryna speak some sense to this nigga.
May 01st 2018
43
Ye has no concept of how to think about other people right now
May 01st 2018
44
Van Lathan tried to talk some sense in him
May 01st 2018
45
nice.
May 01st 2018
52
^ ^ ^Real Ninja Quotes!
May 01st 2018
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He goes in depth about Ye in his latest podcast episode
May 01st 2018
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My man took that hear piece off like ITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN
May 01st 2018
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I find it strange...
May 01st 2018
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If a nigga think slavery was a choice
May 01st 2018
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No one in here is your family
May 01st 2018
53
it doesn't grind my gears...
May 01st 2018
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      Kanye doesn’t even understand his own perspective
May 02nd 2018
136
           Correct. He's just self-obsessed and obsessed with being right
May 02nd 2018
158
you been on some stuff lately sis.
May 01st 2018
54
Lately?
May 01st 2018
63
im just now picking up on it fam.
May 01st 2018
75
      She cool as hell
May 01st 2018
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           lol...
May 01st 2018
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damn papi
May 01st 2018
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      you still a queen in my eyes.
May 01st 2018
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           thank you :-)
May 01st 2018
107
Who is saying anything as insane as
May 01st 2018
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and every family has that one in the backroom that they don't talk abt
May 01st 2018
57
Nah
May 01st 2018
78
I really wanna know what this is in reference to...
May 02nd 2018
146
Kanye has earned being dismissed.
May 03rd 2018
241
How does this dude make Kim's robbery about HIM?
May 01st 2018
51
RE: How does this dude make Kim's robbery about HIM?
May 01st 2018
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Much earlier in the interview is what I'm talking about.
May 01st 2018
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Because if he was there, Kim wouldn't have gotten robbed
May 01st 2018
72
fam this dude is a supercoon.
May 01st 2018
58
Listening would make me dumber. My question: When does he
May 01st 2018
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The second he fucks up and leaves Kim
May 01st 2018
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      https://i.imgur.com/rxY4Ei5.gif
May 01st 2018
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           BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!
May 01st 2018
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                Yea I'm dying ! That was perfect.
May 01st 2018
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RE: Charlamagne / Kanye 1 hour and 45 minute interview....
May 01st 2018
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what ?
May 01st 2018
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RE: what ?
May 01st 2018
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RE: what ?
May 01st 2018
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RE: what ?
May 01st 2018
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      RE: what ?
May 01st 2018
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           RE: what ?
May 02nd 2018
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           I appreciate that you have a unique perspective based on being
May 03rd 2018
239
lol homie gonna ride with ye til his wheels fall off.
May 01st 2018
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      RE: lol homie gonna ride with ye til his wheels fall off.
May 01st 2018
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           oh ok kinda makes sense in this context.
May 01st 2018
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                RE: oh ok kinda makes sense in this context.
May 01st 2018
110
WTF? Really? So he's Oswald Bates?
May 01st 2018
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RE: WTF? Really? So he's Oswald Bates?
May 01st 2018
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      Gallery owners are stupid freaks who aren't on TMZ
May 01st 2018
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           RE: Gallery owners are stupid freaks who aren't on TMZ
May 01st 2018
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trash
May 01st 2018
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all this ^^^
May 01st 2018
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RE: trash
May 02nd 2018
137
Dude, no one wants Kanye to be "product for consumption..."
May 02nd 2018
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RE: Dude, no one wants Kanye to be "product for consumption..."
May 02nd 2018
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Here's where you're wrong.
May 02nd 2018
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      RE: Here's where you're wrong.
May 02nd 2018
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           That's all some of them need.
May 02nd 2018
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                RE: That's all some of them need.
May 02nd 2018
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                     Haha well that would require knowing what everyone's stances were ...
May 02nd 2018
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^^^^^
May 02nd 2018
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I 'm sure 9th Wonder and Questlove
May 02nd 2018
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      ^ word.
May 02nd 2018
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           RE: ^ word.
May 02nd 2018
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                No it's very incoherent. I can't believe anyone could think otherwise.
May 02nd 2018
193
He's mad about the fashion world keeping him at bay/rejecting him but...
May 01st 2018
66
Nice.
May 01st 2018
127
his lines aren't good despite them being featured
May 01st 2018
133
Just finished it...and just saw him end his career on TMZ
May 01st 2018
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Alright, in the end...this was kinda dope
May 01st 2018
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At times, it was like he was answering a different question
May 01st 2018
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      he would just pause and blank when asked a question
May 01st 2018
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           Exactly
May 01st 2018
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           I actually think hes thinking through a lot
May 01st 2018
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           RE: I actually think hes thinking through a lot
May 01st 2018
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           right..
May 01st 2018
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           He seems like a "thoughts too abstract to verbalize" guy
May 01st 2018
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           Nope
May 01st 2018
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           Yeah, like "oh shit, a real question.."
May 02nd 2018
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                Aahahahahahaha. Perfect.
May 02nd 2018
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           Yup. I was listening to it like a podcast
May 01st 2018
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Charlamagne Jumped right in with both feet and elbows. Props
May 01st 2018
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Meh let's not go to far with Charlamagne
May 01st 2018
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a second post about the avengers gets sniped but FOUR
May 01st 2018
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avengers aint hop off the amistad and make im a god broooo.
May 01st 2018
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      ROTFL
May 01st 2018
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someone take him to lynching museum and do this schtick
May 01st 2018
95
I'm not Black I'm Koonyaye!!!! ............ ok.
May 01st 2018
105
So he's gonna build factories in Calabasas to make $300 t-shirts
May 01st 2018
117
how surprised would yall be if kanye cheats on kim with candace owens?
May 01st 2018
119
he'd lift the Kardashian curse tho
May 01st 2018
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view from the alt right:
May 01st 2018
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lmao
May 01st 2018
122
where is the okp that would refer to him as "Conyay Mezz" LOL
May 01st 2018
124
streams, we will all be streams
May 01st 2018
134
kanye really did the whole 'black on black' crime thing smh
May 01st 2018
135
I want to reach through my screen. Ye is the perfect puppet.
May 02nd 2018
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and had the nerve to tell dude
May 02nd 2018
142
all those pauses.. were just so he could suppress the nigga in him
May 02nd 2018
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Music ain't been right for a minute too
May 02nd 2018
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I thought he was feeling himself too much
May 02nd 2018
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Outside looking in, I think Ye lives in a Michael Jackson-like bubble
May 02nd 2018
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I wonder if this is what he wanted all along?
May 02nd 2018
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      Ha ! Wasn't he broke a couple years back ?
May 02nd 2018
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           I was joking about the Koch brothers
May 02nd 2018
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                you joke but
May 02nd 2018
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                prolly waving a fashion line in his face
May 02nd 2018
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                     hey they threw $20 mil to deion sanders for an 'anti poverty' program
May 02nd 2018
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                Hah I know you were joking but like ... it ain't that far off like Reeq ...
May 02nd 2018
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I don't think this is gonna go the way he and some of ya'll think..this ...
May 02nd 2018
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dude is pissing off black people and white liberals.
May 02nd 2018
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agreed word for word
May 02nd 2018
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iono man.. when there was a rumor of Ye performing in NYC
May 02nd 2018
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its possible. im really concerned about the precedent that sets.
May 02nd 2018
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      RE: its possible. im really concerned about the precedent that sets.
May 02nd 2018
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i was already done with him pretty much
May 02nd 2018
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Nas will be fine
May 02nd 2018
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Okely dokely we'll see.......i'll definitely remember this post
May 02nd 2018
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      anyone else who really likes rap music
May 02nd 2018
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kanye will absolutely be fine. hot music solves all problems.
May 02nd 2018
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      mmhmmm
May 02nd 2018
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      too bad he doesn't make hot music anymore
May 02nd 2018
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           life of pablo says otherwise.
May 02nd 2018
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                none of the singles broke the top 30.
May 02nd 2018
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                     RE: none of the singles broke the top 30.
May 02nd 2018
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                     Yes, that’s one
May 02nd 2018
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                     Stevie Wonder -Journey Through "The Secret Life of Plants"
May 02nd 2018
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Kanye is gone. He's an unfettered narcissist man-child
May 02nd 2018
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WHY WOULD YOU EVEN LISTEN AT THIS POINT
May 02nd 2018
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lol. if it's fire, it's fire. i won't stream or pay though
May 02nd 2018
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How will you know without hearing it?
May 03rd 2018
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lol i saw this a lot on twitter.
May 02nd 2018
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I will give this dude exactly 0 seconds of my time.
May 02nd 2018
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      sameski. dude can suck a dingaling at this point.
May 02nd 2018
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      That's about where I'm at
May 02nd 2018
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      yep, same here
May 02nd 2018
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cause in the end all we want is the music
May 02nd 2018
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could be we had the wrong impression of him all along.
May 02nd 2018
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      he told us all along
May 02nd 2018
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      Word to all of this. He had "visions" but never did more than chipmunk s...
May 02nd 2018
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The Kanye Cycle is worse than the Sonic Cycle
May 02nd 2018
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Who is this Virgil guy he keeps talking about?
May 02nd 2018
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmhn23lHRBU ?
May 02nd 2018
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Virgil Abloh
May 02nd 2018
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Sigh.
May 02nd 2018
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so much for Wakanda...
May 02nd 2018
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would you prefer we give Ye the benefit and KIM?
May 02nd 2018
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as the guy from TMZ said to Yeezy, "Your voice is too BIG"
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I’m not sure what I prefer...
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      you can't please everyone
May 02nd 2018
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Hey, girl...
May 02nd 2018
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      hi lover...
May 02nd 2018
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I expect another flip-out and back-biting tirade
May 02nd 2018
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FINISHED it...finally.. Dope Interview IMO.
May 02nd 2018
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1. "He's really stupid"
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If we can't question his mental health then the only answer is : he's stupid.

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Brew
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3. "Yes he is definitely a simpleton."
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Tue May-01-18 01:43 PM by Brew

          

Always has been. It just has never been this destructive before now.

I have not and will not see this interview.

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Reeq
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11. "when the kardashians throw him away...and they will..."
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they will paint him as mentally unstable and abusive.

which makes it more funny that kim is tryna guilt people for questioning his mental health. shes gonna depend on those same people believing her.

  

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74. "The whole damned time."
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>they will paint him as mentally unstable and abusive.

She tried to love the hate out of him for YEARS, but she just can't take no more.

  

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Reeq
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82. "yup."
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238. "Kim's been timestamping her disagreements with Kanye on social media."
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Every time Kanye says some wild shit like this Trump stuff, Kim goes on Twitter and Instagram to basically establish that he's going rogue.
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184. "He is, very clearly, suffering from mental illness."
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Doesn't make his words less despicable. But... he's not well and that's a shame.

  

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Brew
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188. "Yea true but - he can be stupid *and* suffering at the same time."
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Which he clearly is.

Not saying the mental illness part of it isn't sad, it very much is. But his stupidity is detrimental to others. His mental illness is only detrimental to him.

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soulpsychodelicyde
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196. "Look... "
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I am/was BIG mad at that bullshit he said yesterday. It's dangerous and marginalizes an already marginalized community... one that he belongs to *and* has supported him plenty over the years. We are responsible for his success.

BUT...

Mental illness is real. And it is irrational, erratic, nonsensical and horrifically ugly when it goes unchecked. Combine that with some power and a platform, and this is what we have. I mean, we weren't claiming he was 'stupid' when he shouted that George Bush hates black people on national television.

I'm just trying to make the point that this has ZERO to do with his intellect.. something we can't even debate considering he's sick.

Be mad at the dangerous shit he said, for sure. I was *hopping* mad last night. But in the light of day, even though that shit still smarts, I'm way more mad at the people that know he's sick, and are exploiting him for ratings.

He is ill. There is no 'but' clause.

  

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Brew
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197. "Fair enough here."
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Wed May-02-18 10:28 AM by Brew

          

>I'm way more mad at the people that
>know he's sick, and are exploiting him for ratings.

This I can agree with.

But how much do we actually know of his illness ? Like do we have a diagnosis ? Or are you a mental health professional (serious question) ? Or are we all just speculating wildly based on our own belief system ?

I say that as a way to say - without a proper diagnosis from someone way smarter than me I'm not willing to give this type of shit a pass just because he went to a halfway house last year. I sympathize with mental illness, my wife suffers from it. But if she suddenly started spewing racist nonsense at the dinner table, wearing a MAGA hat, or trying to poison my water at dinner to try and kill me, I wouldn't be all "aw this is so sad she's just suffering !" I'd call her a racist and an attempted-murderer and divorce her. While simultaneously encouraging her to go get some help.

In other words, the two are not mutually exclusive. Kanye can be a stupid, incoherent, brainwashed mess, and also have mental illness. The former does not necessarily have a direct correlation to the latter.

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198. "Right."
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Wed May-02-18 10:44 AM by soulpsychodelicyde

          

So, no. I'm not a mental health professional so I probably know less than you do about mental illness.

That said, Kanye has been demonstrating signs of mental illness for years. And that's just the shit *we* see on TV, etc. This has been talked about ad nauseum. I mean... I wasn't in those rooms with Weinstein but do I need to be to know that he's a serial sexual predator?

ALSO... he's basically admitted it in small (and some not-so-small) ways over the years, and in particular over the past few days. His wife alluded to it as well.

Without knowing shit about shit, I maintain that this is really clear and to question it just because you (the universal you) don't have his medical records seems disingenuous. There's plenty of evidence of Donald Trump being a racist based solely on his behavior but we don't know of him running down the street shouting 'I hate ___." (The collective) we have been saying Kanye is mentally ill for years. Let's not walk it back because his behavior is egregiously offensive to US. Because we're the ones offended now he's not crazy? That's unfair and short-sighted.

Again I say that this is what happens when mental illness goes unchecked and untreated. It doesn't get better. It gets worse. And while there are degrees of mental illness, there are illnesses that might have you be perfectly functioning today, and then you're off your meds for a while and you're behavior is nutty.

If you decided to leave your wife b/c she's displaying erratic behavior that happens to be racist, how you handle it and how you hold her accountable is your choice, but it doesn't mean the illness isn't the root cause.

Listen, I get it. 1 + 1 = 2. That he's a stupid narcissist is the only way we can explain the behavior. And under normal circumstances that would make sense.

But when you add mental health issues to the equation 1 + 1 = 5q3489-rtu eoidjklsgiopq3, unfortunately.

Mental illness is really, really hard to understand and even harder to explain but we need to try and muster sympathy and empathy b/c had his behavior manifested itself in a suicide attempt vs. a racist rant, the conversation would be very, very different.

  

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Brew
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199. "Yea I mean, I just hate seeing it used as a cop out."
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Wed May-02-18 11:01 AM by Brew

          

In my experience, it doesn't help the person suffering from mental illness get better if you enable some of their worst behaviors. Re: Kanye, I think you're right, the evidence has been there for years. But there's also been a ton of evidence that he isn't that bright. But it wasn't detrimental so most people were willing to give that a pass.

But now that it *is* detrimental I'd hate to see us give him a pass because he's mentally struggling, and not check him while at the same time encouraging him to get further treatment. They can both be done.

But MENTAL ILLNESS DOES NOT EXCUSE THIS HURTFUL DETRIMENTAL BEHAVIOR. I'm not saying that the illness isn't the root cause, it very well may be. But it also very well may not. We don't know for sure. And even if we DID, mental illness is not a free pass to act in a detrimental manner. It does not excuse that behavior. The mental illness needs to be treated. And the detrimental behavior needs to be LOUDLY opposed, no matter the cause of it. Again, my entire point is that both can be true.

Mental illness does not excuse telling an entire population of historically oppressed people that they "chose" to be enslaved and oppressed. That is fucking fucked, no matter if he's sick or not. That should NEVER be given a pass.

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201. "I guess a way to look at it is: school shooters, clearly mentally ill ....."
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... does that excuse the behavior ? They murder multiple people. They are also clearly mentally fucked up, to be able to do something like that. It does not excuse the behavior. They should still suffer consequences for shooting up the school.

Kanye's situation isn't as dire, obviously. But the same logic should apply. He's mentally ill. Maybe his illness is the cause of his shitty behavior, maybe it isn't. But either way, both should be dealt with. And the illness should not be used as a cop out, a crutch, an excuse, for his behavior. Ever.

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205. "See my response above."
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Affects us = accountable
Affects him/themselves = mentally ill

Though those things aren't necessarily mutually exclusive, how we talk about it is COMPLETELY different. Unfairly so, I think.

  

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206. "I really wish you would stfu... "
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219. "Huh?"
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Why he gotta STFU?

  

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221. "Dynamite drop-in."
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I will absolutely not do that. But thanks for chiming in.

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227. "Chill out"
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or take a time out.

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203. "Ugh."
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I hear you. I do.

But mental illness doesn't make sense and he's certainly not looking to use it as a cop out. I think we have to be careful about downplaying how it can completely take over someone's life.

No one *wants* to be ill.

And ALSO... He's not looking for an excuse. AGAIN... if he had tried to kill himself vs. talking shit, his mental health would not be in question and we wouldn't be using language like "MENTAL ILLNESS DOES NOT EXCUSE THIS HURTFUL DETRIMENTAL BEHAVIOR." Would you say that if he had tried to commit suicide?

He hurts himself = crazy
He hurts us = not crazy

We're mad b/c his illness + platform allowed his illness to be on full display in a way that hurts us. When it impacts us, we change the narrative, but really, the drivers are the same. Do you see the disconnect?

He's not looking to be excused and I'm not excusing him (not that what I say matters). But there's important context here that doesn't include questioning his intellect -- again substitute the offensive rant for a suicide attempt.

Finally, NO ONE. Not a single person is saying that what he said isn't dangerous and shouldn't be loudly and vigorously opposed to (shouts to Van). That's not a question. That needs to happen, did happen, and is happening. BUT ALSO, he's sick and I hope he gets help.

THAT should be our posture.

  

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222. "I guess I'm saying WE shouldn't be copping pleas for him."
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Wed May-02-18 12:33 PM by Brew

          

But you kinda touched on that so we're good. I think we're mostly on the same page. It's a convoluted issue and obviously mental health isn't fully understood even by professionals, nevermind us here on a damn message board.

But yea. Looks like we're in agreement on everything haha. Just took us a few posts to get there.


>I hear you. I do.
>
>But mental illness doesn't make sense and he's certainly not
>looking to use it as a cop out. I think we have to be careful
>about downplaying how it can completely take over someone's
>life.
>
>No one *wants* to be ill.
>
>And ALSO... He's not looking for an excuse. AGAIN... if he had
>tried to kill himself vs. talking shit, his mental health
>would not be in question and we wouldn't be using language
>like "MENTAL ILLNESS DOES NOT EXCUSE THIS HURTFUL DETRIMENTAL
>BEHAVIOR." Would you say that if he had tried to commit
>suicide?
>
>He hurts himself = crazy
>He hurts us = not crazy
>
>We're mad b/c his illness + platform allowed his illness to be
>on full display in a way that hurts us. When it impacts us,
>we change the narrative, but really, the drivers are the same.
>Do you see the disconnect?
>
>He's not looking to be excused and I'm not excusing him (not
>that what I say matters). But there's important context here
>that doesn't include questioning his intellect -- again
>substitute the offensive rant for a suicide attempt.
>
>Finally, NO ONE. Not a single person is saying that what he
>said isn't dangerous and shouldn't be loudly and vigorously
>opposed to (shouts to Van). That's not a question. That needs
>to happen, did happen, and is happening. BUT ALSO, he's sick
>and I hope he gets help.
>
>THAT should be our posture.

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228. "I don’t like the mental illness diagnosis because"
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it seems to only apply when he is saying something we don’t like.

Same folks loving Ye on the right called him crazy when he bashed W.

Now that he is loving Trump it’s mental illness.

I truly believe he is a narcissist and maybe that’s a foorm if mental illness but I think dude is just so in love with his voice and ideas that he thinks he can’t be wrong because he has been winning for so long doing shit his way.

I think it was Terrance Howard who was babbling one time about creating his own language and cutting out plastic shapes. Dude sounded crazy as hell. A part of me just thinks celebs are batshit because they can surround themselves with yes men who won’t tell them shit is off.

One thing I definitely noticed tho is a lot of actors and entertainers suffer from bi polar disorder. I’m not a doctor but I always wondered why it’s so common in the industry? A theory is these folks become their persona and lose site of reality.

Like you said above tho, I’m not a doctor so I can’t say dude is mentally ill.

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229. "This is kinda my point, though."
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>it seems to only apply when he is saying something we don’t
>like.
>

It has generally been said -- even understood -- that he has mental health issues. We've certainly seen enough evidence of it. The Taylor Swift thing... George Bush... we largely laughed through it and it was (generally) accepted that there are some issues afoot. There has been plenty of discussion of it on this very board.

But now that this particular display of erratic behavior impacts *us* we want to change the narrative.

Now he's not crazy, he's stupid. He's a narcissist. All I'm saying is that all of that behavior we've witnessed over the years is caused by the same shit -- we're just mad now b/c he flung it at us.

It's
>Same folks loving Ye on the right called him crazy when he
>bashed W.
>
>Now that he is loving Trump it’s mental illness.
>
>I truly believe he is a narcissist and maybe that’s a foorm
>if mental illness but I think dude is just so in love with his
>voice and ideas that he thinks he can’t be wrong because he
>has been winning for so long doing shit his way.
>
>I think it was Terrance Howard who was babbling one time about
>creating his own language and cutting out plastic shapes. Dude
>sounded crazy as hell. A part of me just thinks celebs are
>batshit because they can surround themselves with yes men who
>won’t tell them shit is off.
>
>One thing I definitely noticed tho is a lot of actors and
>entertainers suffer from bi polar disorder. I’m not a doctor
>but I always wondered why it’s so common in the industry? A
>theory is these folks become their persona and lose site of
>reality.

It's not more common in that industry than it is in the general population. Those folks just have platforms, megaphones and incentives to talk about it. Us regular folks, don't.

>
>Like you said above tho, I’m not a doctor so I can’t say
>dude is mentally ill.

I'm not either but based on his behavior, his own pretty clear admissions and that of his wife/family, I'm pretty clear that there's a mental illness diagnosis.

  

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230. "I don't know if the narrative changed that much though."
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>But now that this particular display of erratic behavior
>impacts *us* we want to change the narrative.
>
>Now he's not crazy, he's stupid. He's a narcissist. All I'm
>saying is that all of that behavior we've witnessed over the
>years is caused by the same shit -- we're just mad now b/c he
>flung it at us.

I remember a ton of folks, myself included, calling him a narcissist (maybe even stupid, but *definitely* a narcissist) following his prior transgressions, even when I agreed with him (the Bush thing, for ex.).

And while we can all agree that *something's* going on, and even as legs said "narcissism" itself may be a mental illness to an extent ... the fact is that we don't know the exact diagnosis so it's hard for me to buy that any of the narcissistic behavior, now or in the past, has been solely the result of whatever illness he may or may not suffer from. We can speculate but we just don't know. So all we can do is react to whatever he's giving us. And for the record I know that you're not saying that it *is* the sole reason for the behavior. Your points have been properly nuanced and I get what you're putting down.

And beyond that, didn't his wife, the person supposedly closest to him, come out and say he's in a good place mentally ? Like after the initial Trump stuff came out, on Twitter ? So while I wouldn't trust the Kardashians as far as I can throw them, we can only go off of what we know and see. And I just still don't totally buy that Kanye West suddenly became a Trump-supporting slavery truther solely because he's got some kind of mental condition. It's just as likely that he's just a regular old narcissistic, self-promoting, selfish, self-absorbed clown and isn't suffering from any mental issues at all right now. We don't know for sure either way.


>It's
>>Same folks loving Ye on the right called him crazy when he
>>bashed W.
>>
>>Now that he is loving Trump it’s mental illness.
>>
>>I truly believe he is a narcissist and maybe that’s a
>foorm
>>if mental illness but I think dude is just so in love with
>his
>>voice and ideas that he thinks he can’t be wrong because
>he
>>has been winning for so long doing shit his way.
>>
>>I think it was Terrance Howard who was babbling one time
>about
>>creating his own language and cutting out plastic shapes.
>Dude
>>sounded crazy as hell. A part of me just thinks celebs are
>>batshit because they can surround themselves with yes men
>who
>>won’t tell them shit is off.
>>
>>One thing I definitely noticed tho is a lot of actors and
>>entertainers suffer from bi polar disorder. I’m not a
>doctor
>>but I always wondered why it’s so common in the industry?
>A
>>theory is these folks become their persona and lose site of
>>reality.
>
>It's not more common in that industry than it is in the
>general population. Those folks just have platforms,
>megaphones and incentives to talk about it. Us regular folks,
>don't.
>
>>
>>Like you said above tho, I’m not a doctor so I can’t say
>>dude is mentally ill.
>
>I'm not either but based on his behavior, his own pretty clear
>admissions and that of his wife/family, I'm pretty clear that
>there's a mental illness diagnosis.

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232. "I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed."
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But that's fine. And OF COURSE we don't know an official diagnosis unless he or his family tell us but do you need to be in the room when Rape Kelly pees on a girl or do you follow alllll the breadcrumbs laid out over the years to know he's a predator?

C'mon.

AND... him being ____ has been a part of the narrative for a long while now... particularly since he had that breakdown 2 years ago.

C'mon.

IT WAS GENERALLY ACCEPTED/TALKED ABOUT/UNDERSTOOD that he has mental health issues because the clues were there. The cognitive dissonance on this is weird. Actually it's not. I take that back. I get how hard it is to make this type of behavior make sense. But what I'd like to have happen is for people to see past their anger and outrage over his despicable behavior and show some compassion for what I -- and I'd wager a gang of folks in this very post (though most won't admit it for their pearl clutching) -- believe is a pretty sick man.

My only motivation is to advocate for better understanding of, and empathy for people with, mental illness.

  

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233. "RE: I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed."
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>But that's fine. And OF COURSE we don't know an official
>diagnosis unless he or his family tell us but do you need to
>be in the room when Rape Kelly pees on a girl or do you follow
>alllll the breadcrumbs laid out over the years to know he's a
>predator?

OK - but wait ... couldn't someone like yourself step in and say, "hey, come on, show some empathy, R Kelly clearly has mental issues that need to be dealt with, look at all the evidence over the years" ?! Just because HE never had a full on nervous breakdown or face his demons like Kanye did two years ago doesn't mean that *his* behavior can't be the result of mental issues, too. Right ?


>AND... him being ____ has been a part of the narrative for a
>long while now... particularly since he had that breakdown 2
>years ago.

Huh ? I thought you were saying the narrative HAS changed on him ? In which case you're kind of arguing against yourself here.


>IT WAS GENERALLY ACCEPTED/TALKED ABOUT/UNDERSTOOD that he has
>mental health issues because the clues were there. The
>cognitive dissonance on this is weird. Actually it's not. I
>take that back. I get how hard it is to make this type of
>behavior make sense. But what I'd like to have happen is for
>people to see past their anger and outrage over his despicable
>behavior and show some compassion for what I -- and I'd wager
>a gang of folks in this very post (though most won't admit it
>for their pearl clutching) -- believe is a pretty sick man.
>
>My only motivation is to advocate for better understanding of,
>and empathy for people with, mental illness.

I'm with you on that mission. Again, my wife suffers from mental illness and has since she was a child. So I've seen it firsthand, attended therapy, read about it endlessly. I'll still never understand it fully. Don't think any of us will. I share that mission and motivation with you.

But I'm *not* willing to use that mission to excuse inexcusable behavior that has massive negative implications for others, even if I find it sad that it's happening and that people have enabled folks like Kanye. It is sad. But like ... Trump is mentally ill too, isn't he ? Not diagnosed that we know of, but similar to Kanye he's shown PLENTY of evidence over the years, so should we show *him* endless compassion too ? Or can we be outraged and call him an asshole, because he is an asshole, with or without mental illness ? How much weight do you put on mental illness before you can be outraged ? Where do we draw the line ?

In the case of Kanye I agree that he’s exhibited poor behavior previously and showed signs of some kind of illness. He was simultaneously being an asshole and I think that was well established at the time. The perfect example being the Taylor Swift situation. Clearly his illness would make him think that behavior is OK. It was also kind of an asshole thing to do. But the collateral damage was minimal so most of us were able to kinda look past it like “oh that’s just Kanye”. Now, as you said, his behavior may effect others. Why can’t people be outraged ? When *can* we be ? Like at what point in the Kanye to Trump chasm are we allowed to trade our compassion for outrage ??

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234. "RE: I don't agree that the narrative hasn't changed."
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>>But that's fine. And OF COURSE we don't know an official
>>diagnosis unless he or his family tell us but do you need to
>>be in the room when Rape Kelly pees on a girl or do you
>follow
>>alllll the breadcrumbs laid out over the years to know he's
>a
>>predator?
>
>OK - but wait ... couldn't someone like yourself step in and
>say, "hey, come on, show some empathy, R Kelly clearly has
>mental issues that need to be dealt with, look at all the
>evidence over the years" ?! Just because HE never had a full
>on nervous breakdown or face his demons like Kanye did two
>years ago doesn't mean that *his* behavior can't be the result
>of mental issues, too. Right ?

Sigh. I was hoping I'd be able to skate by this (*shakes fist at you*). But...here goes. Here is where I, soulpsychodelicyde, raises her hand and admits that she has a blind spot when it comes to sexually predatory behavior. It is one of those behaviors for which I struggle to muster up any empathy at all and see the world in the darkest shades of black, and the brightest shades of white. Grays do not exist. It is a blind/weak spot for me and I own that.

I'll also say that predatory behavior doesn't automatically mean mental illness. But I digress... your point is well taken but yeah... it's a blindspot for me.
>
>
>>AND... him being ____ has been a part of the narrative for a
>>long while now... particularly since he had that breakdown 2
>>years ago.
>
>Huh ? I thought you were saying the narrative HAS changed on
>him ? In which case you're kind of arguing against yourself
>here.

I'm not. I'm saying that we've always said he's nuts/mentally ill. But the narrative changes when that behavior impacts us vs. him/themselves/someone we don't like.

Erratic behavior that DOESN'T impact us/we agree with = he's nuts
Erratic behavior that DOES impact us = he ain't crazy, them Kardashians got him, etc.

Again if this were a suicide attempt vs. a gross tirade WE WOULD HAVE A TOTALLY DIFFERENT POSTURE and would be talking about how we hope he gets help.
>
>
>>IT WAS GENERALLY ACCEPTED/TALKED ABOUT/UNDERSTOOD that he
>has
>>mental health issues because the clues were there. The
>>cognitive dissonance on this is weird. Actually it's not. I
>>take that back. I get how hard it is to make this type of
>>behavior make sense. But what I'd like to have happen is for
>>people to see past their anger and outrage over his
>despicable
>>behavior and show some compassion for what I -- and I'd
>wager
>>a gang of folks in this very post (though most won't admit
>it
>>for their pearl clutching) -- believe is a pretty sick man.
>>
>>My only motivation is to advocate for better understanding
>of,
>>and empathy for people with, mental illness.
>
>I'm with you on that mission. Again, my wife suffers from
>mental illness and has since she was a child. So I've seen it
>firsthand, attended therapy, read about it endlessly. I'll
>still never understand it fully. Don't think any of us will. I
>share that mission and motivation with you.
>
>But I'm *not* willing to use that mission to excuse
>inexcusable behavior that has massive negative implications
>for others, even if I find it sad that it's happening and that
>people have enabled folks like Kanye. It is sad. But like ...
>Trump is mentally ill too, isn't he ? Not diagnosed that we
>know of, but similar to Kanye he's shown PLENTY of evidence
>over the years, so should we show *him* endless compassion too
>? Or should we be outraged at the fact that he's destroying
>the country specifically *because* he's been enabled, and is
>narcissistic, etc. ? Like how much weight do you put on mental
>illness before you can be outraged ? Where do we draw the line
>?

Who says I'm not outraged? Who says anything about excusing behavior? I think I was pretty clear that I was/am BIG mad and that he should be checked swiftly and clearly (shouts to Van...again). But I'm also truly sad that we're watching (what I believe to be) the mental breakdown of one of our truly great artists. I'd like for people to also feel sad and not just 'fuck Ye' about it. I have room to feel both on this issue. I wish others did, too.

  

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235. "LOL !! I actually almost did kinda overlook it but then was like ..."
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Wed May-02-18 08:20 PM by Brew

          

... waaaaaiitttt a second. Haha.

>Sigh. I was hoping I'd be able to skate by this (*shakes fist
>at you*). But...here goes. Here is where I,
>soulpsychodelicyde, raises her hand and admits that she has a
>blind spot when it comes to sexually predatory behavior. It is
>one of those behaviors for which I struggle to muster up any
>empathy at all and see the world in the darkest shades of
>black, and the brightest shades of white. Grays do not exist.
>It is a blind/weak spot for me and I own that.
>
>I'll also say that predatory behavior doesn't automatically
>mean mental illness. But I digress... your point is well taken
>but yeah... it's a blindspot for me.

Anyway, I hear you ... we all have blind spots. Shit, maybe mental illness is one of mine to a certain extent ? At the very least I still have a lot to learn. So with that said, thank you for the discussion.

And of course predatory behavior doesn't automatically mean mental illness. Neither does ... well, really any behavior IMO.



>I'm not. I'm saying that we've always said he's nuts/mentally
>ill. But the narrative changes when that behavior impacts us
>vs. him/themselves/someone we don't like.

Word OK. I feel like that's kinda normal and natural right .. like people tend to only react to things that effect them ? Either way tho I get what you're saying now.


>Who says I'm not outraged? Who says anything about excusing
>behavior? I think I was pretty clear that I was/am BIG mad and
>that he should be checked swiftly and clearly (shouts to
>Van...again). But I'm also truly sad that we're watching (what
>I believe to be) the mental breakdown of one of our truly
>great artists. I'd like for people to also feel sad and not
>just 'fuck Ye' about it. I have room to feel both on this
>issue. I wish others did, too.

Got it. You have been clear, I've just been responding while simultaneously scrambling at work and at home to prepare for a trip so my bad for kinda overlooking when you said that at the beginning as we've gone on here.

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237. "Cool."
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Thanks for the discussion.

  

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231. "The George W thing tho... he said what we were thinking"
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At least that’s what Black folks were thinking with the slow ass response and “helluva job Greenie” bullshit.

The Swift shit felt like it was staged.

The rest? Ionno... maybe he is touched.

I remember him saying folks thought he was off because he had confidence and thought he was the greatest and how it’s rare for Black men to have that type of confidence. I dug it at the time.

I’m not gonna spend too much time speaking on his mental state tho since I have no idea who he really is as a person.

I will say this tho. I have a good friend in the industry who is narcissistic as fuck and it’s basically what got him to the top. But he was annoying as shit and said hella crazy shit but he was the type who could convince a room full of people to get together to change the world with music.

So I can see what Double O was saying about genius but lacks the way to articulate their message.

Ye is wack for this tho.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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2. "can anyone give highlights?"
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there is no way I can listen to kanye talk for that long.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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4. "oh come on lol. "
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watch it later with me so I’ll have someone to argue with

  

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8. "theres nothing interesting in there fam."
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its over 1 and half hour of ye fake deepness with charlamagne correcting him and putting things in proper context and ye just shrugging and moving on lol.

  

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10. "Hahahaha. Sounds like what I'd expect."
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>its over 1 and half hour of ye fake deepness with charlamagne
>correcting him and putting things in proper context and ye
>just shrugging and moving on lol.

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13. "this is exactly what it looked like when I clicked"
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volume was low so I couldn't hear it but Ye looked dumb

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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14. "LOL"
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25. "lol"
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18. "^^^"
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5. "cliffnotes please?"
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i wouldnt watch a 2 hr interview of jesus himself.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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59. "Rundown of the first 15 minutes:"
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- They weren't playing Ye --one of the most famous people in the world-- on the radio, ever since the Taylor swift thing

- They had to wait until he left to rob Kim

- These fashion folks tongue-in-cheek called him 'nigger' when he was late to a show, even tho he was at MSG w/ like 16k fans.

- His mental breakdown kinda felt good, in a way. O_o


Edit: Up to 25 minutes now. Jay-Z hurt his feelings pretty badly, but that's big bro & he still got love.




Also, dude had completely lost whatever "street" there was on his accent.

  

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73. "This was glaring"
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>Also, dude had completely lost whatever "street" there was on
>his accent.

Because I guess I hadn't heard him speak in a while, but it does not sound like his voice at all.

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108. "if we bros i should be able to talk about your kids. they my fam 2"
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he done get it

47:16 in and this is type painful

  

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6. "37 minutes in and...he almost had me like "Yeah 'ye....I get some of it ..."
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But then....smh....




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7. "man fuck this guy"
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i aint watching that shit.


and i logged in just so I could post my disgust.


Fuck Kanye.

  

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9. "lmao"
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_______________________________________
touched like midas these bitch ass niggas they study and bite us.

  

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12. "this dudes obsession with apparel brands is officially creepy."
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'im in a hermes mindstate'. (or something like that)

'obama was like nike'.

  

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16. "LOL"
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Hermes mindstate

  

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17. "maybe he gets paid every time he drops their name? "
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****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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128. "He's the perfect mascot for the Supreme generation"
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Don't know middle school history but can recite the entire Nike release calendar from memory.

  

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15. "It put me to sleep. Literally, I'm working from home today and "
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fell asleep on the couch listening to it.

He's much better in short trolly tweets. He should stick to that.

  

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19. "This nigga PETTY about GOAT President Obama"
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He's mad Obama called him a jackass and didn't apologize.

He thinks, gleaned from his statements, that Obama didn't magically fix whatever issues exist in Chicago due in part to his actions.

He's mad Obama left after one of his performances and didn't speak to him.

Couple that with Kanye's ignorance of exact Trump policies that he agrees with and this is just one big public tantrum.

This whole thing is one big public therapy session for Kanye and it sucks to see him like this.

  

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20. "plus he wants to get into real estate development"
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the perfect storm for him to idolize an idiot like trump without even knowing shit about him.

the key to happiness is not being rich;
it's doing something arduous and
creating something of value and then
being able to reflect on the fruits of your labor

  

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23. "Nah...Obama left BEFORE he performed...I be feelin ways bruh!!!!!!!!"
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And mad that Jay and Kendrick got invited to the White House


I'm mad at myself for finding this and even madder for listening this long.



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Fuck aliens

-Warriorpoet415




http://soundcloud.com/rayandersonjr

  

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49. "^^^ This"
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Jay and Bey, specifically, have that black excellence
photo with the Obamas.

Throw in the jackass comment, the love that Jay
and Bey are getting for their message lately...

Combine all that with sn insecure ego-driven
simpleton...

And here we are



>And mad that Jay and Kendrick got invited to the White House
>
>
>I'm mad at myself for finding this and even madder for
>listening this long.
>
>
>
>*************************************
>
>Fuck aliens
>
>-Warriorpoet415
>
>
>
>
>http://soundcloud.com/rayandersonjr

  

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21. "Some takeaways/cliffnotes"
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Going into the loony bin was a big life-changer for him, but he see’s it as a positive
.
He feels that the Taylor Swift comment hurt his brand and that his lock on radio went away because of it…life of Pablo didn’t do as well as he thought.

He’s cool with people like Virgil moving on but acknowledges that much of these corporations wouldn’t work with him directly but will take his people.

Adidas Yeezy clothes don’t exist because like above, a pending deal with Hermes got cancelled at the last minute and as a result and locked him into only making sneakers for Adidas.

Lots of grandiose Kanye talk about him being the GOAT of all GOAT’s.

Obama really hurt him with the ‘jackass’ comment’. Apparently approached Kanye and his momma when he was gonna run saying he was his favorite artist so the jab and subsequent ghosting hurt.

He’s on that pre-woke Pharrell ‘new black’ stuff. Says that all the slavery movie/references stuff is basically white people brainwashing us, specifically calls out Harriet Tubman on the 20 dollar bill.

Whenever he’s asked about MAGA you could tell he really has no clue. His strongest statement was in the last ten minutes of the video where Charlamagne asked him straight out, he looked lost and couldn’t give an answer or like five minutes (imagine how dumb you gotta be for Charlamagne to get you in a corner? LOL), and Charlamagne had to assist with a ‘You like him cause he’s was a disrupter with getting elected, not with the presidency’ to which Kanye agreed with.

  

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33. "Thanks for taking one for the team, I ain't listening to that shit. "
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**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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39. "He’s lucky the warm weather has me in IDGAF mode at work, lol"
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22. "TMZ.."slavery for 400 years sound like a choice"...(link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=87&v=s_M4LkYra5k


*deep sigh*

Oh boy.

  

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Reeq
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24. "dude is an idiot. a dangerous idiot."
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26. "Such a simpleton. A simpleton who thinks he's brilliant."
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Fuck him. I hate him.

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27. "Even worse, a privileged entitled simpleton who thinks he's brilliant"
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'Music expresses that which cannot be said and on which it is impossible to be silent. ~Victor Hugo'

  

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29. "Facts."
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"Fuck aliens." © WarriorPoet415

  

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32. "Dunning-Kruger is in the house. He's a perfect match for Drumph"
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-

-----------------

www.albumism.com

Checkin' Our Style, Return To Zero:

https://www.mixcloud.com/returntozero/

  

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Reeq
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28. "there are people out here who think hes a genius smh."
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30. "Also facts."
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"Fuck aliens." © WarriorPoet415

  

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125. "You can be a genius at one or two specific things but be"
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Dumb as hell with just about everything else, look at Ben Carson.

R.I.P. Loud But Wrong Guy
Dec 29th 2009 - Dec 17th 2017

  

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35. "Even if he's trolling"
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that's some dangerous ground proceed on. I know one should separate someone's art from their political views, but I'm officially done with this dude. I suppose it's somewhat easy to take that stance as he's been getting worse and worse with each release for the last five or so years, but that's a pretty unforgivable statement to make anyway you slice it.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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46. "exactly....gotta draw the line in the sand somewhere...I can't entertain..."
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yo no more

i won't watch the (whole) interview....saw the first minute

no more for me

=======================================
Coolin...

  

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47. "Yea and not that I'd expect anything more from him but ..."
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... the fact that he's doubling and tripling and quadrupling down on this bullshit rather than practicing some humility, and listening to others' concerns ....... man fuck this fucking clown. He's legit one of the dumbest people in show biz and acts so superior to any and everyone.

Fuck him.


>that's some dangerous ground proceed on. I know one should
>separate someone's art from their political views, but I'm
>officially done with this dude. I suppose it's somewhat easy
>to take that stance as he's been getting worse and worse with
>each release for the last five or so years, but that's a
>pretty unforgivable statement to make anyway you slice it.

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Reeq
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50. "dude is trolling black people in the midst of our trauma/depression."
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for a lot of us who never lived through times where blatant virtriolic racism was socially acceptable (like jim crow)...the election of donald trump was *traumatic*.

i know people who literally broke down and cried. not that hillary lost. but that donald trump won. and that there were actually enough people who voted for him. someone who represented the human embodiment of the fears of a lot of marginalized people in our country.

following a president who (we thought) represented a clearing of a lot of those hurdles.

it felt like an old evil was unearthed again (even though it was clearly present the whole time).

and everything that donald trump has done since has exemplified his disdain for black people. his comments, his hirings, his policies, his taking credit for the accomplishments of a black president while blaming his failures on him, etc.

kanye seems to think this was the perfect opportunity to rub our face in our perfectly justified agony and tell *us* that we are living in the past. nigga this is the *now*.

i genuinely hate this nigga.

  

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55. "^^^^ THIS .... plus it is clear he isnt smart enough"
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To be trolling.

This isnt some genius marketing ploy or some
Man on the Moon shit.

Hes just a privelaged, insecure, jealous, far
removed, idiot.

Fuck him.

  

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64. "^"
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Well said.

  

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68. "RE: dude is trolling black people in the midst of our trauma/depression."
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great post

  

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71. "https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif"
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https://i.imgur.com/v02KoZd.gif









https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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116. "this sums it up"
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I never really liked his personality but I never thought I would see Kanye in a MAGA hat. Also, I think his music blows now.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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213. "pretty much"
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226. "Honestly, I don't care about the Trump stuff"
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I don't agree with siding with Trump at all, but ultimately he perfectly entitled to his views on politics. Saying 400 years of slavery was a choice on the other hand is a complete disrespect to the murder, plunder, and literal bloodshed that occurred before, during, and after the entirety of the US slave trade.

That's not something I can stand for, even if dude is trolling just for attention's sake.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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31. "dude is a walking case study. "
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the whole idea of not wanting to work on shit through therapy is a giant red flag

dude is running from his shit and its painfully obvious.


I dont think he's stupid.

His perspective is...interesting. He thinks in top level metaphors. Its like hes thinking on another level and I don't mean that in a good or bad way. Hes just out there.

edit: He is also pretentious as all fuck. I'm not watching, I'm listening and he sounds like I'm listening to the head curator for the guggenheim having a conversation with Matthew Barney.

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130. "He's very, very stupid"
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We don't have to overthink this one.

  

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143. "nah. it's a "money makes you more of what you already are" deal"
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dude has always been an asshole but he made good music

but now?

music ain't even that good and he has that stupid voice.

I want to blame the Kardashians..lol. Odom almost died, Bruce changed into a woman and Kanye changed into a white man.

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34. "HOW is Charlemagne the logical party? "
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its like if Wendy Williams suddenly went full Oprah

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36. "i think this does more for charlamagnes career then kanyes."
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hes actually a very capable interviewer. pushes back and challenges the interviewee when a lot of people would let them skate. and just generally knowledgeable about a pretty broad range of subjects.

  

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37. ""What half do you agree with?!""
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQBcpvBY6xg

i'm ROLLING

  

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38. "brotha from tmz tryna speak some sense to this nigga."
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https://twitter.com/ElliottWilson/status/991401201156673537

this is really embarassing.

  

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40. "He said 400 years of slavery "sounds like a choice""
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Then he laughed.

Props to the TMZ dudes for 2 things: (1) not reactively laughing along with him, because nothing about that ignorant, simple-minded bullshit is funny, and (2) not snapping at him for being a moronic piece of shit.

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42. "goddamn that felt great. "
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and at the same time, a reminder of the historical wounds.

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43. "RE: brotha from tmz tryna speak some sense to this nigga."
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he also called ye a genius...but yeah, glad he did what was necessary

  

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44. "Ye has no concept of how to think about other people right now"
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45. "Van Lathan tried to talk some sense in him "
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30 minutes later seen there's no convincin' him

  

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52. "nice."
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62. "^ ^ ^Real Ninja Quotes!"
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Ye been needed dat. Sun calmly-yet-surjically Uncle'd'eem up.


Its always good to have OG's around you that will hold a mirror up
to you on some, "I love you Bruh, but dis shit here? You fuckin up right now my dude and Ima tell you why:_____________"



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80. "He goes in depth about Ye in his latest podcast episode"
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It must've been recorded yesterday bc CthaGod calls in and talks about watching the Avengers movie and his interview before it was released.

Either way, he said Ye's dangerous and needs to be ignored at this point. I wonder if he'll stick to his guns if Ye offers to come on his podcast though...

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85. "My man took that hear piece off like ITS ABOUT TO GO DOWN"
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41. "I find it strange..."
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That many of you havent watched the video but in here still talking crap.
sounding just as crazy as you’re claiming him to be lol

so wack
we family tho...

I’mma watch later and be back

  

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48. "If a nigga think slavery was a choice"
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Then I'm not willing to sit for an hour and watch him try and talk in circles to justify that fuck shit.

Outside of shock value it's nothing to gain from it.

  

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53. "No one in here is your family"
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If they wont be honest with you about how shockingly
naive you are being.

Everyone is literally responding to his words
and actions. There is not more to the story.

You say you arent a Ye stan, so what is it? You
think pop stars are geniuses and/or royalty?

You think the guy who needs john legend to
break down simple history is some kind of
genius? Lol

I know youre older than 20, cmon.

Ye’s idiocy is dangerous- theres no more to the story.

  

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98. "it doesn't grind my gears..."
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Look. It has nothing to do with Kanye as it is my desire to understand a perspective that differs from mine. It's all over the news and I wanna see what's all the fuss is about. Why niggas trippin' you're assuming because I'm not calling for his head that I agree with him. nah, thats not the case. I can listen without reacting. I'm fair...

Kanye problem is he isn't articulating himself well...

Like, he really on some Jesus shit lol

  

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136. "Kanye doesn’t even understand his own perspective "
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That’s part of the problem.

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158. "Correct. He's just self-obsessed and obsessed with being right"
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and dominant.

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54. "you been on some stuff lately sis."
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63. "Lately? "
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She always been like this

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75. "im just now picking up on it fam."
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and i like her. but some of these replies...

  

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92. "She cool as hell"
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but you know...

She old school.

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103. "lol..."
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*rolls eyes**






  

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99. "damn papi"
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That hurts

  

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104. "you still a queen in my eyes."
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some of your reactions to kanye, trump, etc genuinely perplex me.

but i know you aint coming from a place of malice.

  

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107. "thank you :-)"
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I don’t have the energy to complain about trump anymore and I suppose I’ll get there with Kanye. Kanye is “new news” that’s the only reason why I’m involved in the discussion.


  

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56. "Who is saying anything as insane as"
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"Slavery was a choice?"

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57. "and every family has that one in the backroom that they don't talk abt"
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that was a joke

but Trin...please stop wit the ditzy-blonde thing

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78. "Nah"
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Nobody needs to watch an hour and 45 min of that train wreck to call it a train wreck.

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146. "I really wanna know what this is in reference to..."
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>sounding just as crazy as you’re claiming him to be lol
>


Specific quotes, please


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241. "Kanye has earned being dismissed."
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How long can someone talk incoherently, without focus, in circles, about alternative facts and people still listen?

I'm 38 and don't have enough time left on this earth to give someone like that. Too many things I want to do.....listening to Kanye isn't one of them.

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51. "How does this dude make Kim's robbery about HIM?"
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Jesus he's an idiot.

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67. "RE: How does this dude make Kim's robbery about HIM?"
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The question was about HIS mental state though?

I mean how could it NOT affect him? Not contribute to his hospitalization? The mere thought that he couldn't protect his wife? That he left too early.. that he blames himself...

That is literally what any one in that situation would think...

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70. "Much earlier in the interview is what I'm talking about."
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Not when directly asked about his mental state.

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72. "Because if he was there, Kim wouldn't have gotten robbed"
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Those thugs planned all that shit out, but had to wait until Kanye left town to go get that money. lol.

Kanye was gonna do something... the question is what?

  

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58. "fam this dude is a supercoon."
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i called dude a coon before and said it would most likely get worse.

i still wasnt expecting this.

and it most likely will continue to get even worse.

im honestly judging any black artist that works with him at this point.

hopefully dude gets whatever he wants outta this promo push then releases his shitty 7 song album and just drops off the face of the earth.

  

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60. "Listening would make me dumber. My question: When does he"
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go broke?


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61. "The second he fucks up and leaves Kim"
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69. "https://i.imgur.com/rxY4Ei5.gif"
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https://i.imgur.com/rxY4Ei5.gif









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115. "BWAHAHAHAHAHAAA!!!!"
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.

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126. "Yea I'm dying ! That was perfect."
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I'm legit LOLing.

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65. "RE: Charlamagne / Kanye 1 hour and 45 minute interview...."
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Thought it was dope..

Ye isnt crazy... This is a lot more clear headed than he has presented himself in interviews in a long time.

he is an Artist... through and through...

as he said artists are HSP - Highly Sensitive People

His big issue will forever be with communication of his ideas.... I dont listen to Ye LITERALLY I am translating his points as he says them. I think he uses the wrong words to describe a lot of things and it fucks with people.

He sees cracks in the system... He wants to fix them.. He has a innate need to do so.

The Trump thing is a bit more weird in context because literally everything he is saying is it is opposed to that...

other than Trump proved the exception to the rule that he can say "See you can break the matrix"

I mean he literally said he wanted Bernie Sanders principles with Trumps

NOT TOUCHING THAT TMZ SHIT THOUGH... LOL

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77. "what ?"
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You thought that was dope and clear headed ?

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81. "RE: what ?"
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Do you deal with artists daily?

I do...

I've already stated before for Art to exist at the scale that it does the artist/visionary HAS to be delusional.. you HAVE to believe that the shit you make is worthy of mass consumption..

I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..

as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...

Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea they want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they want a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have texture".

You may never actually understand the way an artist perceives the world. Your job is simply to enjoy the distillation of an idea.. but for that shit to be distilled is a monumental task of translation everytime..

He talks exactly like an artist... so again.. I translate..

I am not looking for Ye to save the world (he can't) as I stated in another post the artist mind and the grounded political one do not see eye to eye often


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91. "RE: what ?"
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>Do you deal with artists daily?
>
>I do...
>
>I've already stated before for Art to exist at the scale that
>it does the artist/visionary HAS to be delusional.. you HAVE
>to believe that the shit you make is worthy of mass
>consumption..
>
>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>
>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...


i thought the primary job of a producer was making good music, care to recap what happened since that good KITH album (2008) ?

  

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93. "RE: what ?"
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>Do you deal with artists daily?

No

>I do...

>I've already stated before for Art to exist at the scale that
>it does the artist/visionary HAS to be delusional.. you HAVE
>to believe that the shit you make is worthy of mass
>consumption..
>

I disagree, it sounds like you are selling the artist short.

>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>
>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...
>

"Translate" come on it sounds like you are making up an excuse to give him a pass when he says something stupid.

>Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea they
>want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they want
>a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have
>texture".
>

So he is always on ? He is never anything more than an artist in the booth 24/7, no matter what he is doing. If he orders food, watch the news, go to sleep, it's all the same as walking in.

>You may never actually understand the way an artist perceives
>the world. Your job is simply to enjoy the distillation of an
>idea.. but for that shit to be distilled is a monumental task
>of translation everytime..
>

Would this extend to artist who disagree with what you just typed ? If another artist or producer told you that Ye interview was not dope or clear headed, would you say they don't understand ?

>He talks exactly like an artist... so again.. I translate..
>

Nah you are looking the other way.

>I am not looking for Ye to save the world (he can't) as I
>stated in another post the artist mind and the grounded
>political one do not see eye to eye often
>
>

Nobody has to save the world to be honest. If Ye was clear headed he wouldn't need you to translate or Charlamagne to help him answer.

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114. "RE: what ?"
In response to Reply # 93


          


>>
>
>I disagree, it sounds like you are selling the artist short.

How so? I've watched producers and songwriters say they are therapists.... In the language of creativity there is A LOT of translating and use of flowery and sometimes confusing language to do so. Thats just the way it is

>
>>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>>
>>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...
>>
>
>"Translate" come on it sounds like you are making up an excuse
>to give him a pass when he says something stupid.
>
>>Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea they
>>want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they
>want
>>a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have
>>texture".
>>
>
>So he is always on ? He is never anything more than an artist
>in the booth 24/7, no matter what he is doing. If he orders
>food, watch the news, go to sleep, it's all the same as
>walking in.

Yes.

All input is necessary for art...

There is a spectrum of artist(s). On one extreme you have people who are PURE ART (that homeless person who sings like an angel) and on the other is the "BUSINESS MAAAAANN" (someone not as talented but can hack through the game)

All artists fall on this spectrum somewhere... most battle somewhere in the middle.. But our favorites often bend a little towards PURE ART.

How many posts in these forums are on some "When is so and so gonna drop an album again, Why doesnt so and so stick to the shit I like from them" We WANT them to be more "Business MAAAAANNN" but no they are not.

>
>Would this extend to artist who disagree with what you just
>typed ? If another artist or producer told you that Ye
>interview was not dope or clear headed, would you say they
>don't understand ?

No.. because I know that there are probably trigger words and or shit that Ye has already done that will color their view of the video same as anyone else.


>>
>
>Nobody has to save the world to be honest. If Ye was clear
>headed he wouldn't need you to translate or Charlamagne to
>help him answer.
>

I didnt see him helping but here is what he learned
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng7XrIFaqk

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212. "RE: what ?"
In response to Reply # 114


  

          

>
>>>
>>
>>I disagree, it sounds like you are selling the artist short.
>
>
>How so? I've watched producers and songwriters say they are
>therapists.... In the language of creativity there is A LOT of
>translating and use of flowery and sometimes confusing
>language to do so. Thats just the way it is
>

You sell the artist short when you say they have to be "delusional" to believe what they make is "worthy" of mass consumption. It suggests how dare they believe they are good. Artist who speak bs to express an idea are not delusional, they are just talented and can't communicate. Producers who translate bs are not therapist, they are just bs detectors.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IgoB2JMEowc Artist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XEDzNA39Vvc&feature=youtu.be&t=17s

Smitty Producer

>>>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>>>
>>>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...
>>>
>>
>>"Translate" come on it sounds like you are making up an
>excuse
>>to give him a pass when he says something stupid.
>>
>>>Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea
>they
>>>want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they
>>want
>>>a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have
>>>texture".
>>>
>>
>>So he is always on ? He is never anything more than an
>artist
>>in the booth 24/7, no matter what he is doing. If he orders
>>food, watch the news, go to sleep, it's all the same as
>>walking in.
>
>Yes.
>
>All input is necessary for art...
>
>There is a spectrum of artist(s). On one extreme you have
>people who are PURE ART (that homeless person who sings like
>an angel) and on the other is the "BUSINESS MAAAAANN" (someone
>not as talented but can hack through the game)
>

Kanye doesn't sound like he is anywhere near the pure art end.

>All artists fall on this spectrum somewhere... most battle
>somewhere in the middle.. But our favorites often bend a
>little towards PURE ART.
>

Kanye is not in the middle either.

>How many posts in these forums are on some "When is so and so
>gonna drop an album again, Why doesnt so and so stick to the
>shit I like from them" We WANT them to be more "Business
>MAAAAANNN" but no they are not.
>

No I don't believe saying when will they drop a new album or why don't they stick to what we like, means we want them to be more business. It just means we don't want them to take chances and experiment or take too long to put something else out. If we wanted more business man we would buy any and everything they do.

>>Would this extend to artist who disagree with what you just
>>typed ? If another artist or producer told you that Ye
>>interview was not dope or clear headed, would you say they
>>don't understand ?
>
>No.. because I know that there are probably trigger words and
>or shit that Ye has already done that will color their view of
>the video same as anyone else.
>
>

Sounds like your view is from a rose colored glasses perspective. If someone says this interview was not dope, you say they are not an artist, if they are an artist and say this interview is not clear headed you say Kanye has already made them bias against him. Sounds like everybody is wrong except you and Kanye when it comes to calling this interview dope and clear headed.

>>
>>Nobody has to save the world to be honest. If Ye was clear
>>headed he wouldn't need you to translate or Charlamagne to
>>help him answer.
>>
>
>I didnt see him helping but here is what he learned
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng7XrIFaqk
>

Yeah he was helping him all through the interview and Levin helped in the TMZ interview.

Charlamagne learned something that's been obvious for years.

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239. "I appreciate that you have a unique perspective based on being"
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a producer. That's pretty cool.

what drives me crazy is people throwing out the "he's an artist" like that shit is a get out of jail free card for all the dumb shit he says. Specifically when he is saying this shit outside of his art. Then I just got to treat him like a supercoon with a terrible opinion.



>
>>>
>>
>>I disagree, it sounds like you are selling the artist short.
>
>
>How so? I've watched producers and songwriters say they are
>therapists.... In the language of creativity there is A LOT of
>translating and use of flowery and sometimes confusing
>language to do so. Thats just the way it is
>
>>
>>>I stated that I translate Ye as he is talking..
>>>
>>>as a producer that is LITERALLY MY JOB...
>>>
>>
>>"Translate" come on it sounds like you are making up an
>excuse
>>to give him a pass when he says something stupid.
>>
>>>Someone walks in a has a feeling or a kernel of an idea
>they
>>>want to get out. They want something to "feel warm" they
>>want
>>>a single sound to "be luxurious" or a 2d image to "have
>>>texture".
>>>
>>
>>So he is always on ? He is never anything more than an
>artist
>>in the booth 24/7, no matter what he is doing. If he orders
>>food, watch the news, go to sleep, it's all the same as
>>walking in.
>
>Yes.
>
>All input is necessary for art...
>
>There is a spectrum of artist(s). On one extreme you have
>people who are PURE ART (that homeless person who sings like
>an angel) and on the other is the "BUSINESS MAAAAANN" (someone
>not as talented but can hack through the game)
>
>All artists fall on this spectrum somewhere... most battle
>somewhere in the middle.. But our favorites often bend a
>little towards PURE ART.
>
>How many posts in these forums are on some "When is so and so
>gonna drop an album again, Why doesnt so and so stick to the
>shit I like from them" We WANT them to be more "Business
>MAAAAANNN" but no they are not.
>
>>
>>Would this extend to artist who disagree with what you just
>>typed ? If another artist or producer told you that Ye
>>interview was not dope or clear headed, would you say they
>>don't understand ?
>
>No.. because I know that there are probably trigger words and
>or shit that Ye has already done that will color their view of
>the video same as anyone else.
>
>
>>>
>>
>>Nobody has to save the world to be honest. If Ye was clear
>>headed he wouldn't need you to translate or Charlamagne to
>>help him answer.
>>
>
>I didnt see him helping but here is what he learned
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ng7XrIFaqk
>


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83. "lol homie gonna ride with ye til his wheels fall off."
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100. "RE: lol homie gonna ride with ye til his wheels fall off."
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nah..

I aint riding with that TMZ shit AT ALL (glad dude checked him)

I was just explaining why I liked the interview... imo there was insight into his thought process now...

mind you this interview was BEFORE he posted about Candace and all the trump shit AND this TMZ shit obviously..

But its a fine line

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102. "oh ok kinda makes sense in this context."
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>mind you this interview was BEFORE he posted about Candace and
>all the trump shit AND this TMZ shit obviously..

most of us are reacting to things in the order that weve been exposed to them.

i wonder what took them so long to release it.

  

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110. "RE: oh ok kinda makes sense in this context."
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Editing?

This IS Kanye we are talking about.. lol

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89. "WTF? Really? So he's Oswald Bates?"
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>His big issue will forever be with communication of his
>ideas.... I dont listen to Ye LITERALLY I am translating his
>points as he says them. I think he uses the wrong words to
>describe a lot of things and it fucks with people.

So someone completely inarticulate ala Oswald Bates?
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROOi5xagxg

>He sees cracks in the system... He wants to fix them.. He has
>a innate need to do so.
>
>The Trump thing is a bit more weird in context because
>literally everything he is saying is it is opposed to that...
>
>other than Trump proved the exception to the rule that he can
>say "See you can break the matrix"
>
>I mean he literally said he wanted Bernie Sanders principles
>with Trumps

Let me ask again - insane or stupid? Because
cognitive dissonance can only go so far as a defense.

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109. "RE: WTF? Really? So he's Oswald Bates?"
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>>His big issue will forever be with communication of his
>>ideas.... I dont listen to Ye LITERALLY I am translating his
>>points as he says them. I think he uses the wrong words to
>>describe a lot of things and it fucks with people.
>
>So someone completely inarticulate ala Oswald Bates?
>Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ROOi5xagxg
>

I dont see anything he said as inarticulate really... can you reference something that made completely no sense (In the interview)

>
>Let me ask again - insane or stupid?

neither ... I think Kanye is trying to process ideas that have been much better distilled by books like Steven Pressfields - War Of Art, Yuval Harari's - Sapiens and George Lakoff - Metaphors We Live By and a ton of others

They are really large ideas about how people interact and how society is shaped. They have literally NOTHING to do with everyday life and are very High Brow.

Someone made the point above.. Ye talks like a gallery owner.. do we consider those people stupid though?

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118. "Gallery owners are stupid freaks who aren't on TMZ"
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>
>neither ... I think Kanye is trying to process ideas that have
>been much better distilled by books like Steven Pressfields -
>War Of Art, Yuval Harari's - Sapiens and George Lakoff -
>Metaphors We Live By and a ton of others

You say he's deep. I'm saying he's not - and he's stupid. (Remember - he says we can't call into question of he's having a breakdown or other mental health challenges - I'd go with manic.)

>They are really large ideas about how people interact and how
>society is shaped. They have literally NOTHING to do with
>everyday life and are very High Brow.

Yeah, scoop de poop was too high brow for me. BIG IDEAS.


>Someone made the point above.. Ye talks like a gallery owner..
>do we consider those people stupid though?

Many of them, yes. Especially when they are inarticulate and saying stupid things.

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120. "RE: Gallery owners are stupid freaks who aren't on TMZ"
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In the end shit dont matter..

He shot himself in the foot on TMZ... so whatever insight the interview couldve had

it's

a

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129. "trash"
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yes, trash this whole shit you wrote.

as fake deep as Ye's nonsense.

this idea you continue to allude to, of "this" art and artist, is directly tied to capital and patriarchy: literally reenacts the ways those two systems and social identities exist in reality.

your framing, articulation, and "selling" of artist as these tortured souls lost in translation: be it Dali or Pollock, or James Brown, or Miles, or Hemingway or Faulkner or Kanye, is bullshit. They are highly creative / "genius" producers, who are shitty people.

Creative people who are given passes on their terrible ideas of life on earth, and their shitty behavior, 'cause they've made a "thing," literally an object in the capitalist economy that is deemed worthy, it is wack.

he don't see shit. ain't no cracks in the "matrix" he see, that a 15 year from Compton don't. FOH.

also nice attempt at infantilizing the poster above with that "have do you work with artist" NO, literally no human has ever been around, attempted to, lived with, feel in love with, attempted to be, or god forbid actually teaches artist, in the world, ever. like what kinda fucn pompous ass position is that.

cool breh, you work in the industry. don't give you unchecked privilege to frame fuccshit as anything but what it is... bull.shit.

  

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131. "all this ^^^"
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137. "RE: trash"
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>yes, trash this whole shit you wrote.
>
>as fake deep as Ye's nonsense.
>
>this idea you continue to allude to, of "this" art and artist,
>is directly tied to capital and patriarchy: literally reenacts
>the ways those two systems and social identities exist in
>reality.
>
This is where we are... most people are mad becaus he is not participating in said capitalist system as they want him to. They want product for consumption that they deem worthwhile. No one cares otherwise.... thats why yall niggas let r kelly cook for a decade... doing actual disgusting fucked up shit.

>your framing, articulation, and "selling" of artist as these
>tortured souls lost in translation: be it Dali or Pollock, or
>James Brown, or Miles, or Hemingway or Faulkner or Kanye, is
>bullshit. They are highly creative / "genius" producers, who
>are shitty people.
>
Being and shitty person is being a shitty person.. I am not making an excuse for shitty behavior. We are talking about one dudes opinion.. it has affected no ones daily life and it ultimately wont. It won't lead to policy

>Creative people who are given passes on their terrible ideas
>of life on earth, and their shitty behavior, 'cause they've
>made a "thing," literally an object in the capitalist economy
>that is deemed worthy, it is wack.
>

Blame Adam Smith G.... also see above

>he don't see shit. ain't no cracks in the "matrix" he see,
>that a 15 year from Compton don't. FOH.
>
What he cares about is totally irrelevant to most people in the world.. we can agree on that. But thats HIS mission.. let him cook it wont affect you either way... same way an astronomer discovering a new galaxy means literally nothing to a kid in hood tryna eat and get home safe.

>also nice attempt at infantilizing the poster above with that
>"have do you work with artist" NO, literally no human has ever
>been around, attempted to, lived with, feel in love with,
>attempted to be, or god forbid actually teaches artist, in the
>world, ever. like what kinda fucn pompous ass position is
>that.
>
i was simply talking about the translation. I am not a school psychologist.. I cannot view years of behavior in elementary school and offer a proper translation of whats going on..

>cool breh, you work in the industry. don't give you unchecked
>privilege to frame fuccshit as anything but what it is...
>bull.shit.

Upenn FTW

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141. "Dude, no one wants Kanye to be "product for consumption...""
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"...that they deem worthwhile." People want him to stop saying stupid, uninformed shit. I particularly want him to stop saying stupid, uninformed shit and trying to pass it off as the result of him being a "free thinker" or whatever buzzword he's latched on to.

I've been a journalist for a long while now, and I've been talking to and interviewing rappers for over half my life. Which means I can tell the deep-thinkers from the bullshit artists from the guys who are just talking out of their ass, convinced that they are deep. Kanye falls into the latter two categories. I could tell when I interviewed him back in 2003. He just made better music back then.

He's not a deep, misunderstood genius who has trouble expressing his thoughts. He's dumb and uninformed and convinced of his own non-existent brilliance.

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179. "RE: Dude, no one wants Kanye to be "product for consumption...""
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>"...that they deem worthwhile." People want him to stop
>saying stupid, uninformed shit. I particularly want him to
>stop saying stupid, uninformed shit and trying to pass it off
>as the result of him being a "free thinker" or whatever
>buzzword he's latched on to.
>
How many people have you seen say during these last 2 weeks.. MAN the next album better be FIYAAAAHH

>I've been a journalist for a long while now, and I've been
>talking to and interviewing rappers for over half my life.
>Which means I can tell the deep-thinkers from the bullshit
>artists from the guys who are just talking out of their ass,
>convinced that they are deep. Kanye falls into the latter two
>categories. I could tell when I interviewed him back in 2003.
>He just made better music back then.
>
>He's not a deep, misunderstood genius who has trouble
>expressing his thoughts. He's dumb and uninformed and
>convinced of his own non-existent brilliance.

I never said he was some deep misunderstood genius... I said he was wrestling to express ideas already touched in multiple books. What he is trying to express isn't new and he is barely scratching the surface or understanding the nuances of the subject matter.

Ye was never the best producer, best rapper, best business man or best stylist... best reader.. He might be one of the best curators of ideas though.

And really he is the KING of pulling the USB out at 65% upload and be like this is enough lets go.. Like a human beta test

End of the day... all the shit we say we hate now existed in that same interview you did in 03

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150. "Here's where you're wrong."
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>Being and shitty person is being a shitty person.. I am not
>making an excuse for shitty behavior. We are talking about
>one dudes opinion.. it has affected no ones daily life and it
>ultimately wont. It won't lead to policy

Maybe not directly but people are generally pretty stupid. Many of his millions of followers will be influenced by this bullshit and you never know what kind of effect those followers/numbers could have on midterm elections, 2020, etc. It may not *directly* lead to policy but indirectly it could have a vast impact. To think otherwise is to underestimate groupthink.

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183. "RE: Here's where you're wrong."
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>Maybe not directly but people are generally pretty stupid.
>Many of his millions of followers will be influenced by this
>bullshit and you never know what kind of effect those
>followers/numbers could have on midterm elections, 2020, etc.
>It may not *directly* lead to policy but indirectly it could
>have a vast impact. To think otherwise is to underestimate
>groupthink.

Oh I don't underestimate groupthink at all.. But the fan base of someone that big is so segmented none of them have aligning views outside of liking Kanye.

Sure a few could be swayed.... but he also hasn't given them a directive outside of "free thought"

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191. "That's all some of them need."
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>Sure a few could be swayed.... but he also hasn't given them a
>directive outside of "free thought"

People are stupid and impressionable. So they see a black dude wearing a MAGA hat and praising Trump ... that shit may be all a lot of them need to swing them to becoming Trump voters in 2020 ... or more imminently, Repug voters in the midterms later this year in their respective states.

That's bad. Very bad.

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211. "RE: That's all some of them need."
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I don't think the situation is that dire...

Anecdotally I have not seen anyone "come around" to Trump since this whole twitter fiasco started last week.

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223. "Haha well that would require knowing what everyone's stances were ..."
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... before and after. I don't think you're gonna peripherally be able to notice a person's progression from "just a Kanye fan" to "white supremacist" just by scrolling Twitter.

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140. "^^^^^"
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totally agree

  

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139. "I 'm sure 9th Wonder and Questlove"
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would disagree. They are producers too. They work with artists. Kanye is incoherent and unstable.

You are not making a good case for him.

  

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151. "^ word."
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>RE: I 'm sure 9th Wonder and Questlove
>would disagree. They are producers too. They work with
>artists. Kanye is incoherent and unstable.
>
>You are not making a good case for him.

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185. "RE: ^ word."
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Unstable sure... but thats the life

Incoherent nah.. we know exactly what he is saying.. we just dont like or want it.

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193. "No it's very incoherent. I can't believe anyone could think otherwise."
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His thoughts are sprawling and stream-of-conscience and largely random and surface level. There's nothing coherent about any of it.

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66. "He's mad about the fashion world keeping him at bay/rejecting him but..."
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That sounds like a choice to me.

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127. "Nice."
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133. "his lines aren't good despite them being featured"
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He seemingly thinks that the world wearing his clothing and copying his style is an indicator of design success instead of his pop cultural influence.

Are people really lining up to look 7 11 ready? Is he using Simplicity patterns? For $300-600 I want kente style sweatpants that offset my carbon footprint, not some damn cotton emblazoned with calabasas that any student could whip up. I'm sure he works hard on it, but its like macaroni art at the louvre.



  

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76. "Just finished it...and just saw him end his career on TMZ"
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79. "Alright, in the end...this was kinda dope"
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it was a fucking slog to get through and Kanye was cringeworthy and I had to stop to take a breather several times

but

the overall format and the way it ended was beautiful

this is more about Charlemagne and less about Kanye

Props to the god for this.

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84. "At times, it was like he was answering a different question"
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And NEVER had a real answer about Drump.

CTG gets maaaaaaaaaaaaajor props for how he handled this




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88. "he would just pause and blank when asked a question"
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that demanded more than a canned reply. he couldnt think past the surface.

  

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94. "Exactly"
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>that demanded more than a canned reply. he couldnt think
>past the surface.


^^^^^this

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101. "I actually think hes thinking through a lot"
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I have the theory that his thoughts are like icebergs but hes only able to describe small parts of his ideas.

its not stupidity but an inability to articulate thoughts in a concise manner

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111. "RE: I actually think hes thinking through a lot"
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Exactly.

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112. "right.."
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I get it because I have the same issue.
there was a time in my life that i responded by hitting you...

  

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113. "He seems like a "thoughts too abstract to verbalize" guy"
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He seems very measured with his responses.

  

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132. "Nope"
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https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam\'s_razor

  

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144. "Yeah, like "oh shit, a real question..""
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Ummm...how do I keep the charade going? He just asked me what is it I like about Trump...ummm..ummm.."

You like popsicles Charlamagne? Trumps ideas are like popsicles..not the freeze pop ones, but like the bomb pop ones, that you could get from the candy lady....see..the candy lady was like the Giveechi of the neighborhood...and she has a factory in a remote island, and because of her influence, we had PNB clothing. So without Trump, we never woulda had Please No Bacon or Post No Bills clothes...because Jay didnt come to my wedding..





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152. "Aahahahahahaha. Perfect."
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106. "Yup. I was listening to it like a podcast"
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and those pauses had me checking my iphone to make sure it was still working, lol

  

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86. "Charlamagne Jumped right in with both feet and elbows. Props"
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.
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

  

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97. "Meh let's not go to far with Charlamagne"
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He tossed softballs and gave Ye help.

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87. "a second post about the avengers gets sniped but FOUR"
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threads about this attention whore on the first page are acceptable

the sad state of okayplayer in 2018 in a nutshell

  

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90. "avengers aint hop off the amistad and make im a god broooo."
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96. "ROTFL"
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95. "someone take him to lynching museum and do this schtick"
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make this a 24/7 art piece alla shia lebouf

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105. "I'm not Black I'm Koonyaye!!!! ............ ok."
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dat 405 fwy Lambo chase gon be lit tho

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hustla til i die baby grindin like a savage
pimp game sweet, breakin ankles and feet
cuz these hoes break they toes til they job complete

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117. "So he's gonna build factories in Calabasas to make $300 t-shirts"
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that he can give away when a disaster strikes

...within 5-10 years

https://youtu.be/zxwfDlhJIpw?t=5062

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119. "how surprised would yall be if kanye cheats on kim with candace owens?"
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i mean its 2018 so why not...

  

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123. "he'd lift the Kardashian curse tho"
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121. "view from the alt right:"
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https://twitter.com/Gavin_McInnes/status/991469936219443200

  

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122. "lmao"
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124. "where is the okp that would refer to him as "Conyay Mezz" LOL"
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i watched/listened to about 40 mins of the CM interview. shit was a snooze fest.

he clearly needs therapy.

  

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134. "streams, we will all be streams"
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this is hilariously dumb. The deflecting and talking in circles.

The closest thing I can think of is that Joaquin Phoenix stunt documentary. This is that.

  

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135. "kanye really did the whole 'black on black' crime thing smh"
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https://twitter.com/JustRyCole/status/991467000453971968

  

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138. "I want to reach through my screen. Ye is the perfect puppet."
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142. "and had the nerve to tell dude"
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don't scream cuz it makes us 'look bad'.

Ye is dumb and dumber.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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145. "all those pauses.. were just so he could suppress the nigga in him"
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that wack ass white voice. Dude has to work to remember to use it and thinks it makes his words sound more intelligent.

FOH nigga.

makes beats and STFU

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147. "Music ain't been right for a minute too"
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But yeah he crazy
either that or feelin himself way too much now

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148. "I thought he was feeling himself too much"
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and that may very well be what it is..

but it also comes across like they reprogrammed this nigga with the Maga 2.0 chip.

wouldn't be surprised if he was crying while saying "ewwe strawberry's" like Brittany Spears

https://youtu.be/DMpguv7st7s?t=58s

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149. "Outside looking in, I think Ye lives in a Michael Jackson-like bubble"
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The way he talks, the way he views the world, how lonely he seems, how he talks about not being able to trust anyone, etc.

I'm guessing his "craziness" comes from (in large part) a complete disconnect with anything outside of his bubble, bad influences, depression and a natural predilection for outside-the-box thinking.

Not trying to cop pleas for him, just saying that I think this dude is lost out on an island mentally right now, talking to a pair of yeezys with hand prints on them.

  

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153. "I wonder if this is what he wanted all along? "
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I can't see anyone wanting so much success it sucks the life out of them or has them trapped in a bubble.

don't get me wrong, the money is great, the fame is blehh but some folks need it..

but I really wonder if some of these folks on that Sammy Sosa. Being Black and successful isn't enough? You gotta talk white and adopt that self hate? Did the Koch brothers pay his debts and buy him off? WTF

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160. "Ha ! Wasn't he broke a couple years back ?"
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>Did the Koch brothers pay his debts
>and buy him off? WTF

You may be on to something here.

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166. "I was joking about the Koch brothers"
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and I think Ye being "broke" ain't really broke.

but I could definitely see the label floating him or one of these rich white billionaires throwing him a few dollars.

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177. "you joke but "
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im almost sure some right wing billionaires *now* are trying to elbow their way closer to him to coordinate the message/agenda. or at least funding/influencing candace owens/charlie kirk/tpusa as a middleman.

  

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181. "prolly waving a fashion line in his face "
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215. "hey they threw $20 mil to deion sanders for an 'anti poverty' program"
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while encouraging him to spread right wing messaging in the black church.

  

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195. "Hah I know you were joking but like ... it ain't that far off like Reeq ..."
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154. "I don't think this is gonna go the way he and some of ya'll think..this ..."
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beyond music and 'well...it's Kanye...you know how he is...those beats tho'


some may come back...but alot.....man alot....

i don't see happening


someone put out there that it will be real interesting a month from now between Nas's release and Ye's to see how the people respond

i don't think it will go well for either...

definitely not how they think


that goofy artsy/complex/free thinking plane ain't flyin

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156. "dude is pissing off black people and white liberals."
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thats pretty much his entire fanbase.

i think he will prolly have good 1st week sales/streams just because people flock to controversy and itll be heavily promoted by tmz, complex, kardashians, etc. but the mediocrity of the album will set in and the cycle of interest in the album will prolly fall off sharply. i could see them pulling out of any plans for a tour.

it says a lot that comments/tweets generated much more coverage/conversation than the release of an actual song (ye vs...). i dont think a lot of people are really into ye musically that much anymore so its not that hard for them to cut him off.

  

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163. "agreed word for word"
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Coolin...

  

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169. "iono man.. when there was a rumor of Ye performing in NYC"
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this happened:

https://theknockturnal.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/kanye-crowd.jpg


it's America too, if that album bangs folks won't care. WE will still hate what he has become but America will shrug and play that shit.

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180. "its possible. im really concerned about the precedent that sets."
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and the behavior it emboldens.

that an entertainer can overtly shit on black people and be financially rewarded despite/because of it (by black people nonetheless).

  

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190. "RE: its possible. im really concerned about the precedent that sets."
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The America experiment continues...

Think that may be the point of this whole time... to remind folks..

The arrow of time might move in one direction... but progress doesn't and it's an everyday battle to keep it from slipping

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189. "i was already done with him pretty much"
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I used to be a big fan of his music but I didn't even really listen to the last album, and I won't listen to this one.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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165. "Nas will be fine"
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Ye will be fine too

rap fans still mostly care about the music.

Ye's tour might take a hit tho...

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175. "Okely dokely we'll see.......i'll definitely remember this post"
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and what is a 'rap fan' in 2018 exactly....

describe them

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202. "anyone else who really likes rap music"
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186. "kanye will absolutely be fine. hot music solves all problems."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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187. "mmhmmm"
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192. "too bad he doesn't make hot music anymore"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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200. "life of pablo says otherwise."
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the people were fucking with it and the tour got rave reviews.

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207. "none of the singles broke the top 30."
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and the tour was canceled mid-run supposedly due to the trump comments and the mental breakdown (which masked lackluster sales/pricing).

he made a shitload off merch/apparel tho which seems to be his most consistently viable hustle lately.

  

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209. "RE: none of the singles broke the top 30."
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reviews
https://www.google.com/search?q=live+of+pablo+tour+review&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS784US784&oq=live+of+pablo+tour+review&aqs=chrome..69i57.4274j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

as for the singles, could've fooled me. FSMH was everywhere for one.

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236. "Yes, that’s one"
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>reviews
>https://www.google.com/search?q=live+of+pablo+tour+review&rlz=1C1GCEA_enUS784US784&oq=live+of+pablo+tour+review&aqs=chrome..69i57.4274j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
>
>as for the singles, could've fooled me. FSMH was everywhere
>for one.

  

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225. "Stevie Wonder -Journey Through "The Secret Life of Plants""
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Point being...if an artist is going to be around for a long long time I expect some shitty albums.

I'm sure James Brown has some terrible shit out there as well as Bob Dylan, Aretha, etc

comes with the territory.

Have we had a rapper with a long career put out brilliant albums then shitty albums then more good shit eventually?

I'm thinking maybe Ghostface. He has a lot of good and a lot of "meh" shit out there

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155. "Kanye is gone. He's an unfettered narcissist man-child"
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Maybe he should have finished college after all.
So that his mind would not be so susceptible to getting blown so easily.
All that shit Kanye is pondering about freedom and free thought has been thoroughly explored and exhausted by people way more intelligent than him.

I can't believe I used to ride for this guy. Turns out he is actually a simpleton and some of his good insights or convictions in the past were likely purely be accident.

He is an unfettered narcissist man-child who will sacrifice the entire black race at the altar of the alt-right just to get some views or temporary social currency. Please do not defend him. Go and take a look at the people defending Kanye now in youtube and IG comments now. Actual racists.

"400 years sounds like a choice to me"
Fuck you for that Kanye. Fuck you very much. He needs to read a book about all the failed slaved rebellions and what they did to runaway slaves.
What a clown.

Ps That album better be fire though. "Ye Vs The People" was mediocre to me.

  

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161. "WHY WOULD YOU EVEN LISTEN AT THIS POINT"
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>Maybe he should have finished college after all.
>So that his mind would not be so susceptible to getting blown
>so easily.
>All that shit Kanye is pondering about freedom and free
>thought has been thoroughly explored and exhausted by people
>way more intelligent than him.
>
>I can't believe I used to ride for this guy. Turns out he is
>actually a simpleton and some of his good insights or
>convictions in the past were likely purely be accident.
>
>He is an unfettered narcissist man-child who will sacrifice
>the entire black race at the altar of the alt-right just to
>get some views or temporary currency. Please do not defend
>him. Go and take a look at the people defending Kanye now in
>youtube and IG comments now. Actual racists.
>
>"400 years sounds like a choice to me"
>Fuck you for that Kanye. Fuck you very much. He needs to read
>a book about all the failed slaved rebellions and what they
>did to runaway slaves.
>What a clown.
>
>That album better be fire though. "Ye Vs The People" was
>mediocre to me.

CMONNNNNNNNNNNN all that fire above and then "but that album tho, better be dope I'll be peeping" don't give him the time of fucking day !!!

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162. "lol. if it's fire, it's fire. i won't stream or pay though"
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>>Maybe he should have finished college after all.
>>So that his mind would not be so susceptible to getting
>blown
>>so easily.
>>All that shit Kanye is pondering about freedom and free
>>thought has been thoroughly explored and exhausted by people
>>way more intelligent than him.
>>
>>I can't believe I used to ride for this guy. Turns out he is
>>actually a simpleton and some of his good insights or
>>convictions in the past were likely purely be accident.
>>
>>He is an unfettered narcissist man-child who will sacrifice
>>the entire black race at the altar of the alt-right just to
>>get some views or temporary currency. Please do not defend
>>him. Go and take a look at the people defending Kanye now in
>>youtube and IG comments now. Actual racists.
>>
>>"400 years sounds like a choice to me"
>>Fuck you for that Kanye. Fuck you very much. He needs to
>read
>>a book about all the failed slaved rebellions and what they
>>did to runaway slaves.
>>What a clown.
>>
>>That album better be fire though. "Ye Vs The People" was
>>mediocre to me.
>
>CMONNNNNNNNNNNN all that fire above and then "but that album
>tho, better be dope I'll be peeping" don't give him the time
>of fucking day !!!

  

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240. "How will you know without hearing it?"
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170. "lol i saw this a lot on twitter."
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fuck ye, koonye, this nigga done lost his mind...that album better be fire!

  

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174. "I will give this dude exactly 0 seconds of my time."
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I listened to each of his last 2 albums one time that's it. They both sucked something FIERCE. This one will undoubtedly be even worse. I'd give it a listen if it weren't for this recent MAGA bullshit but now I won't even do that.

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178. "sameski. dude can suck a dingaling at this point."
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182. "That's about where I'm at"
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Yeezus was one and I forget the name of the other, if those were his last two then yes I didn't like that shit at all save for maybe one or two songs. If this one is trash then chalk it up as a loss and I don't even need to check for his shit again.

I'm so uninterested in this album it's not even funny.

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194. "yep, same here"
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agree with everything you said.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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173. "cause in the end all we want is the music"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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168. "could be we had the wrong impression of him all along."
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>I can't believe I used to ride for this guy. Turns out he is
>actually a simpleton and some of his good insights or
>convictions in the past were likely purely be accident.

for someone who portrayed himself as an arbiter of realness/authenticity...he ended up falling in love with and marrying the exact opposite.

he has always had a ton of input from other people for just about everything he did. he was more of a curator than an actual artist. maybe those other people (even his mom) are what drove him in certain directions, including in his general thoughts/life. and now as he is more isolated...we are seeing more of his true nature.

people think we are losing ye. but maybe we are just finding him.

  

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171. "he told us all along"
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but he was still around Dame and Jay so he kept it Black.. but over the years he been creepin towards white folks acceptance.

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176. "Word to all of this. He had "visions" but never did more than chipmunk s..."
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... on his own. For literally everything else he needed a ton of collaborators.

Which I wouldn't hate on so much if he weren't such a loser. Haha.


>for someone who portrayed himself as an arbiter of
>realness/authenticity...he ended up falling in love with and
>marrying the exact opposite.
>
>he has always had a ton of input from other people for just
>about everything he did. he was more of a curator than an
>actual artist. maybe those other people (even his mom) are
>what drove him in certain directions, including in his general
>thoughts/life. and now as he is more isolated...we are seeing
>more of his true nature.
>
>people think we are losing ye. but maybe we are just finding
>him.
>
>

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157. "The Kanye Cycle is worse than the Sonic Cycle"
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folks keep falling for it every time.

  

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159. "Who is this Virgil guy he keeps talking about?"
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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167. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmhn23lHRBU ?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kmhn23lHRBU

  

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172. "Virgil Abloh"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgil_Abloh

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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164. "Sigh."
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This is really hard to watch -- in the macro sense. We are watching someone with untreated mental illness fall apart in front of us.

While his words are incredibly dangerous, through the lens of his health, it's really, really sad and I hope he gets help.

  

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204. "so much for Wakanda..."
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Hearing us bicker is depressing me


  

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208. "would you prefer we give Ye the benefit and KIM? "
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216. "as the guy from TMZ said to Yeezy, "Your voice is too BIG""
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to be talking reckless.

Kanye won't get into Wakanda anyway. Not with the Kardashians in tow.
He'll be cancelled at the border.

  

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Trinity444
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217. "I’m not sure what I prefer..."
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the back and forth bothers me though. that’s really the core of it.

for example...
how some folks here take issue with some of the things you say. Having dialogue with you, paid attention to the history you’ve posted about, I know you don’t mean any harm. Some would even say, I’ve favored you (shit, remember folks even though I liked you lol). none of that is the case, I just view things from a different angle.

and you’ve done the same for me...

I’m done with the whole thing

  

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legsdiamond
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220. "you can't please everyone"
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I guess you can try but those folks sound fake woke to me and end up getting caught out there once the receipts come in.

best to just be you and post genuinely



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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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210. "Hey, girl..."
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Wed May-02-18 11:31 AM by flipnile

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4E-3GE9bKo



Forget all this talk for a bit. Let me introduce myself, my name is flipnile, I ride an orange bike, I'm an Aquarius, I like long rides through the park...

  

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Trinity444
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218. "hi lover..."
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Mgmt
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214. "I expect another flip-out and back-biting tirade"
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when these fashion icons whose ass he is sucking turn on him. Similar to the way this guy is distancing himself from the term "rapper." (which is the most offensive thing to me)

  

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FLUIDJ
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224. "FINISHED it...finally.. Dope Interview IMO."
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Ups & Downs....as to be expected from Kanye.
I'm still a fan though.....of the artist.
I heard truth and fallacy.


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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