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Walleye
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"Intercept: Border patrol targets humanitarian group"


          

Too long to swipe in full, but the gist is that folks are facing federal charges for leaving water in the desert. Trump (and presumably Trumpism) won't last forever. I'd be pleased to see any opponent offer an aggressive plan for transitional justice, because these agents are criminals being given cover by the government.

https://theintercept.com/2018/04/30/were-gonna-take-everyone-border-patrol-targets-prominent-humanitarian-group-as-criminal-organization/

“WE’RE GONNA TAKE EVERYONE” — BORDER PATROL TARGETS PROMINENT HUMANITARIAN GROUP AS CRIMINAL ORGANIZATION
Ryan Devereaux
April 30 2018, 4:00 p.m.

FROM THE MOMENT Scott Warren was arrested by Border Patrol agents on a remote property just north of the Mexican border, in January this year, there were questions. The 35-year-old college instructor, with a doctorate in geography and a history of academic and humanitarian work along the border, was found in a building known locally as “the Barn,” in the company of two young undocumented men from Mexico.

Accused of supplying the men with food, water, clothing, and a place to sleep, he was indicted by a grand jury in February, on two counts of harboring illegal aliens and one count of conspiracy to transport and harbor illegal aliens. The humanitarian aid volunteer could spend up to two decades in prison if convicted and sentenced to consecutive terms.

Scott Warren, a professor at Arizona University and a volunteer with No More Deaths, was arrested and charged after Border Patrol allegedly witnessed him giving food and water to two migrants. Photo: Carrot QuinnWarren is also one of nine volunteers with No More Deaths, an official ministry of the Unitarian Universalist Church of Tucson, to be hit with federal charges in recent months for leaving water in a remote federal wilderness preserve where migrants routinely disappear and die. His arrest came just hours after No More Deaths published a report that documents evidence of Border Patrol agents destroying jugs of water that the group leaves for migrants in the desert.

Now, more than three months after the raid on the Barn, filings in the criminal case against Warren reveal new details about the January operation, bolstering suspicions that law enforcement has come to see No More Deaths, an organization focused on preventing the loss of life in the borderlands, as a criminal organization aimed at aiding the unlawful entry of migrants into the U.S.

A motion to suppress evidence that was filed by Warren’s attorneys, who claim that the warrantless search of The Barn was unlawful, includes text messages between Border Patrol agents from before and after the raid, as well as reports written by agency officials at the time. The materials include talk of open investigations into No More Deaths as an organization, descriptions of Warren as a “recruiter” for the group, and links made between Warren’s arrest and prior enforcement actions that stemmed from the organization’s “illicit” work.

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I want to see the Evangelicals, etc. reconcile This part:
May 01st 2018
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Right?
May 01st 2018
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It's rather telling.
May 01st 2018
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      It feels like they're buying on credit a bit
May 01st 2018
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why wait? you already know
May 01st 2018
3
      They can't justify this one.
May 01st 2018
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           bruh, they can justify anything with a scripture
May 01st 2018
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This is what people voted for
May 01st 2018
6

Shogun
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1. "I want to see the Evangelicals, etc. reconcile This part:"
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>Scott Warren, a professor at Arizona University and a
>volunteer with No More Deaths, was arrested and charged after
>Border Patrol allegedly witnessed him giving food and water to
>two migrants. Photo: Carrot QuinnWarren is also one of nine
>volunteers with No More Deaths, an official ministry of the
>Unitarian Universalist Church of Tucson, to be hit with
>federal charges in recent months for leaving water in a remote
>federal wilderness preserve where migrants routinely disappear
>and die. His arrest came just hours after No More Deaths
>published a report that documents evidence of Border Patrol
>agents destroying jugs of water that the group leaves for
>migrants in the desert.

How can you be representative of a religious base and be OK with a man who want's to criminalize chruch groups helping people?

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Walleye
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2. "Right?"
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I'm not going to hold my breath on that. In the last four decades, conservative Evangelicals have made it clear they'd happily sacrifice any principles they had for a shot at political power. Trump's lasting contribution to that dynamic is going to be demonstrating exactly how cynical they are.

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4. "It's rather telling."
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>I'm not going to hold my breath on that. In the last four
>decades, conservative Evangelicals have made it clear they'd
>happily sacrifice any principles they had for a shot at
>political power. Trump's lasting contribution to that dynamic
>is going to be demonstrating exactly how cynical they are.

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Walleye
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8. "It feels like they're buying on credit a bit"
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I don't really get the sense that a three-part Venn diagram of Trump supporters, Evangelicals, and young people is very big. The lies that started the Iraq War worked fine on a lot of younger capital-C Christians because they seized on the trauma of September 11th and offered violence that was retributive and remote.

However big the above intersection is, I'm curious to see how comfortable they are going beyond the vagaries of "deport!" and permitting this kind of naked aggression against immigrants. Those kids were raised understanding you're supposed to pretend to not be racist and to run a lot of their belief through some broader (if too vague to be useful) notion of Christian unity. If this group has some trouble maintaining some political cohesion as their older members die and younger members come not just into voting age but of age to set political priorities, I won't be totally surprised.

Or not. Proximity to power really fucks with people.

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3. "why wait? you already know"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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5. "They can't justify this one."
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a man doing work on behalf of a religious organization is arrested...bor doing work on behalf of a religious organization. This is crazy.

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7. "bruh, they can justify anything with a scripture"
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these folks don't give a shit.

One person said "if God can forgive Trump, so can I" when it came to infidelity and pussy grabbing.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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6. "This is what people voted for"
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Literally Trump was saying this shit daily.

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