https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SDedJG9mo

If there's no fuss made about this, does this prove the #metoo movement is sexist/misandry?

If she was a male, and the guy was a girl, would Kaleb Perry be #metoo'd up out the paint already?

Is this perfectly ok regardless of the sexes involved?

What say yall?

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but still ready to claim nobody wants to hear?



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And a lot of the time the difference is in how big of a deal the victim decides to make of the issue.

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Unless the victim is underage.

it’s prolly considered uncomfortable tho.

and sure, if the situation was reversed folks would be quick to call it assault.

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the kid (cuz he looked mad young) seemed to have some sort of moral/religious convictions at play too.
But (white) women are harmless, tho, soooo...

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Men and women aren't the same, no matter how much that agenda is pushed.

the guy went in for a kiss. he was expecting a cheek and gots lips but that doesn't equal assault.

for me the tricky part is there was pressure on him, but he wasn't unwilling to kiss her.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Katy could make or break his entertainment career with the whole world watching. She had power and he was coerced. Obviously she's not Harvey levels but it has all of the ingredients.

At the very least she should release a statement if we're going off of all of the other cases.

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I'm ok with double standards up to a point so I don't give a shit either way, but you gotta call a spade a spade.

Low key though him saying I wanted to the kiss to be special is a roundabout way of saying i'm only kissing you if we fucking. But Katy raped his time so I'm riding with him.

that could easily escalate to assault if their relationship were to continue in the same vein.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

Who would say shit to us like “I can’t wait for you get older”

I’ll never forget one woman, she was like 10 years older than me and when I was finally legal she just blurted it out. “You finally legal”

I shoulda got at her but i was thrown off. Didn’t expect that to be the first words out of her mouth.

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I would go to my mom's office she had a co-worker that would literally chase me around the office and tackle me and kiss me and my mom and all of the other women in the office would laugh about it.

A man could never do that with a little girl lol.

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2 drunk people have sex (man and woman) who is supposed to be the responsible party?

white teachers out here sexing underage boys everyday and how many go free or receive light sentences?

it's also the reason you have rjcc following you around joking you about a topic you discussed.

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Why do these exist? Is there some physical reason? Historical reasons?
Are they legitimate reasons?

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include:

1. men are typically physically stronger than women
2. men are typically in positions of power and influence
3. men are more aggressive

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

as she was in the position of power.

Albeit this dude didn't appear very strong nor aggressive, but both of those are neutralized by power. Ask Terry Crews.

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a lot of our standards are based on what kept the human species alive for 200,000 years. In modern society, we've established social constructs on top of our animal instincts that have improved our lives, but it winds up leading back to shit like this cause we want to act like men and women are the same.

but I think folks who are on the "men and women are the same" open themselves up to these stupid and obvious examples that show we aren't the same.

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>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2SDedJG9mo
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>If there's no fuss made about this, does this prove the #metoo
>movement is sexist/misandry?
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Yes it does

>If she was a male, and the guy was a girl, would Kaleb Perry
>be #metoo'd up out the paint already?
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Yes the min it aired if not before.

>Is this perfectly ok regardless of the sexes involved?
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>What say yall?
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No it's not ok. The guy said he wanted the first kiss to be special.

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When I was yeah I was thinking about the more general definition of sexual assault as "any type of sexual contact or behavior that occurs without the explicit consent of the recipient."

So yeah this is sexual assault under that definition. However if you look at criminal codes that define sexual assault, and of course sexual assault may have different definitions in different jurisdictions, but a typical definition looks something like this:

The Texas Penal Code, Sec. 22.011(a) defines sexual assault as

A person commits if the person:

(1) intentionally or knowingly:
(A) causes the penetration of the anus or sexual organ of another person by any means, without that person's consent;
(B) causes the penetration of the mouth of another person by the sexual organ of the actor, without that person's consent; or
(C) causes the sexual organ of another person, without that person's consent, to contact or penetrate the mouth, anus, or sexual organ of another person, including the actor; or
(2) intentionally or knowingly:
(A) causes the penetration of the anus or sexual organ of a child by any means;
(B) causes the penetration of the mouth of a child by the sexual organ of the actor;
(C) causes the sexual organ of a child to contact or penetrate the mouth, anus, or sexual organ of another person, including the actor;
(D) causes the anus of a child to contact the mouth, anus, or sexual organ of another person, including the actor; or
(E) causes the mouth of a child to contact the anus or sexual organ of another person, including the actor.

All from wikipedia.


Now some may think I am being overally technical or legalistic, but the fact of the matter is from a common sense persective, no one thinks of an unwanted peck kiss the same as rape. And most people wouldn't think of an unwanted peck kiss as criminal sexual assault whether it was done by a man or a woman.

Part of the reason the conversation is so f'd up is because the language we use to discuss it is so unsettled. You read an article about someone committed sexual assault and you really have no idea whether they forcibly raped someone or groped someone. Some would say it doesn't make a difference, most would say it does.

So yeah, that's my two cents.

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be it to sexual harassment or violence. That's one reason the Catholic church has been able to rape young boys for centuries.

I've been jumped and assaulted a couple of times in my life. Sadly comes with the territory of being in the bar business/security. The first thing out of most women's mouths when asked about the incident was "Well, what did you do to provoke it?" not realizing the irony of the question.

When people see a big guy beating the crap out of a little guy they are far less offended than if he was beating a woman, even though both of the victims had about the same chance, feel pain equally, etc.

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I think this is assault. But we can be clear about what this is without trying to undermine the very real, and very fucking necessary #MeToo movement/conversation.

Christ.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

cause he put his neck out there knowing that MeToo ain't necessarily for him.

I hope he getting support from everybody

I'm not on twitter so I don't really follow a lot of it. But I hope everybody in #metoo holds him down along with everybody else

he also talks about how when he walks into a room, it instantly splits in two...those on his side and those that aren't...he can see it on all their faces immediately

like shit, that fucking sucks..i can't even imagine that

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that never happens.

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Who gives a shit. He'll be ok. Yes, it's a double standard. Fucking deal with it already.

lmao

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Because it was so innocent.

It's not a big deal because of the context. Her hit song is "I kissed a girl", dude says he hasn't kissed a girl. The scene writes itself.

The exact same context with a guy wouldn't get anything other than the fake outrage that came out of the Katy Perry situation.

So the innocence of it makes it no big deal. Extrapolating this other situations is problematic. You can not say women (in general) sneaking kisses is no big deal. It is just as wrong as men doing it.

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but they also have to know people will point at stuff like this that most folks see as cute and point out the hypocrisy. Imagine Robin Thicke doing that to a 19 year old girl.

Then you have folks agreeing with metoo and still getting shafted on for something in there past yet when it’s a woman who was cool with Weinstein it’s crickets or some other excuse for why she didn’t know or speak on it.

I think this is a good example for folks to speak on instead of getting upset.

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either they just need to say this movement is for women only or keep the same energy.

even though that's the spin, they can't put that message out there.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

pretend pearl clutching over goofy shit like this kiss isn't helpful to bringing attention to legit assaults on men either

'cause Terry Cruz spoke up in the middle of the movement via Twitter like everybody else and it looks like he out on an island by himself with that shit. And that nigga is famous.

I could be wrong but that's what it looks like.

So bringing attention to this goofy shit may not help it, but from the looks of things it damn sure won't hurt it either.

this does not mean Katy Perry did what was done to Terry Crews

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>this does not mean Katy Perry did what was done to Terry
>Crews

but I'm not arguing this.

I'm asking what needs to be done to bring incidents of male sexual assault in the conversation, not even in the forefront.

just put your name on it loser.

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so you put it out there as "people"



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this was shared on my FB timeline
https://www.facebook.com/jorleah/posts/1590073434362896

As for the #metoo questions, those are actual accusations made under the share I mentioned above... but also, there was a recent podcast by tonetalks entitled "How #metoo forgot Terry Crews: Why this is about power not gender" that involved 2 lawyers and a history professor discussing Terry's case that was extremely informative.
Here is it for those interested: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaH01ahXZwg

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not the man who assaulted him

the men at the agency.


the men who set the laws that got his case tossed out.


blame #metoo


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SMDFTB.


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Can you be genuine for at least one post?

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That's not blame?

lying ass motherfucker.

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yes, I'm blaming you for not being able to use language to complete your lie.

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He came in this post tryna snark niggas over a post that happened weeks ago so he on one right now

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sometimes i wish you weren't such a ho ass nigga man

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Not *you* but even the question... the assertion that #MeToo forgot about Terry Crews is just an effort to undermine and dilute the purpose of the movement.

I won't engage.

I wouldn't phrase it like that, but I agree with you. Anyone trying plant an unwanted kiss on my lips is getting anything from this:

https://media1.tenor.com/images/b2ab47e1b4a14814e977e5879fb4765a/tenor.gif?itemid=5430376

to this:

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because what she did was foul.

I wouldn't raise it to the level of sexual assault. It has nothing to do with #metoo.
She just misread the situation.

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but see, misreading the situation sounds familiar.

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and also talk about who #metoo forgot.


probably definitely not someone who blames women instead of men all the time

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it must be awful knowing I'm right but not wanting to say it

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and is still fighting with the over some property.

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I love when you hold a mirror up to bullshitters
den watch their sub-logic start to *harlemshake* when the
tenets of said sub-logic has been flipped upside down.

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