3. "It's hard to compare them for me." In response to Reply # 0 Sat Mar-10-18 09:12 PM by Boogie Stimuli
The Chi seems to be a more serious show while Atlanta incorporates more comedy. I haven't seen all of Atlanta, but from what I have seen, both shows appear to do a really good job of making everyday situations very entertaining. I was watching The Chi last week, thinking it's pretty brilliant that they can make such simple things so gripping, b/c it's not often that I'm so into a show not dealing with surrealism or sci-fi. The only thing I need from The Chi is for some of these younger peoples' fathers to exist in some capacity. They don't have to be in the house, but damn do they exist at all? Like they don't see them, talk to them or anything? That's pretty odd.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Sun Mar-11-18 07:08 AM
6. "I care more bout the story line in The Chi" In response to Reply # 0
ATL is great TV but it’s a comedy and doesn’t really have to tell a story.
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8. "I like Atlanta more (So far) BUT" In response to Reply # 0
a. I was a huge Donal Glover fan to begin with b. Atlanta sets out to be Twin Peaks (My favorite TV show) with rappers c. This is the second season of Atlanta
The Chi is still REALLY good, I'm anxious to see where it goes, the characters are very engaging (the three young boys are all good actors, strong characters)
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I'm biased, tho. But, seriously, I've just now got invested in these characters from The Chi and the season's almost over. I realize Atlanta has to do more with less time and that's why it's characters are likely executed better. Just needed a faster or more interesting pace for The Chi. The Chi's very solid, but Atlanta's genius won't be fully realized until it's over.
11. "I just binge watched the Chi over the last couple of days, the story and..." In response to Reply # 0
the characters drew me in immediately.
I need to give Atlanta another try, I’ve watched a few episodes but it never really caught on with me, it just mainly seemed like some dudes sitting around getting high.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Sun Mar-11-18 07:58 PM
20. "Atlanta is smoke out and trip great TV" In response to Reply # 11
but there is a lot of shit hat reminds me of Seinfeld. random shit that’s hilarious
The Chi is more traditional but I love it. The acting is pretty good and the story is engaging.
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12. "The Chi is not an accurate depiction of the city at all." In response to Reply # 0
The clothes are all wrong, cats don't dress like that at all. The lack of Chicago slang, the wrong locations (Westside standing in for the Southside), it's just corny.
Maybe she wasn't going for authenticity, but this show could be Anywhere, USA. It doesn't rep Chicago at all, not like how The Wire repped Baltimore pretty accurately.
I'm surprised Common signed on to this.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Sun Mar-11-18 07:50 PM
18. "This is hilarious to me" In response to Reply # 12 Sun Mar-11-18 07:54 PM by legsdiamond
I get it but at the same time, I don’t get it
A bunch of movies have been filmed in Pittsburgh and when they shoot on the north side when it’s supposed to be the south side I just shrug. It doesn’t bother me to the point it detracts from the movie.
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-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Mon Mar-12-18 12:29 PM
28. "This is why Insecure is amazing to L.A. people. It's helllllla accurate" In response to Reply # 12
Like, if they say it's Inglewood, it's Inglewood. If they say it's Baldwin Hills, it's Baldwin Hills. Even minor minor things, like they'll drive by something on the way to The Dunes or her job, and it'll really be going the correct direction.
And as a bonus, her show Giants is based in L.A., and it's not only accurate, but shows characters passing The Dunes on the way to other places in L.A.
-DJ R-Tistic- Member since Nov 06th 2008 51986 posts
Mon Mar-12-18 05:03 PM
39. "Oh not quite, that was her being predictive. It's become a slight bit" In response to Reply # 33
Black gentrified...like, Rusty Pot Cafe is Black owned, but just has a slight young, hipster appeal to it in some way, even though it's regular soul food. Of course spots like "Stuff we eat" have been there for years, and it's vegan, so that was kind of the start. It's a few other places, like a new ice cream type spot, but they're all just regular Black at this point.
41. "ah, not so bad. i'm seeing Mid City, and West Adams going" In response to Reply # 39
I drive through Mid City on the way to work, and it's like you'll see an old school barber shop, next to organic foofoo spot, and alot of beards and white couples on bikes and little dogs, then a block up, a buch of Mansfields hanging out lol
John Singleton didn't have them wearing head-to-toe Ralph Lauren and Timberland boots in Baby Boy, or Boyz in the Hood. That's not what most L.A. people wear.
Hype Williams didn't have them wearing khakis and Chuck Taylors in Belly. That's obviously not New York.
You can't film in Santa Monica and say it's Watts.
The essence of those movies is undeniably L.A. and New York. The details matter.
Not to come off as nitpicky, but The Chi just doesn't have that essence that's uniquely Chicago. It could be Anywhere, USA.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Mon Mar-12-18 03:28 PM
37. "Every show like this has the “that’s not really the West Side”" In response to Reply # 31
No one says “insert slang” on that side of town.
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Sun Mar-11-18 07:57 PM
19. "Yes, from the opening scene The Wire was great" In response to Reply # 16
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Sun Mar-11-18 11:02 PM
24. "I’m a huge fan of The Chi" In response to Reply # 22
I don’t have any complaints.
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29. "The Wire was 10-15 years ago, a different time and space, nothing..." In response to Reply # 26
now is going to equal that so its tough to compare. And like I said above I'm huge fan of the Wire but I feel like a lot of the hype is nostalgic. Watching it today a lot of it didn't age well.
30. "nah it's not nostalgia. i rewatched the Wire a year ago" In response to Reply # 29
aside from clothing styles and flip phones making it look dated, it holds up beautifully.
there are very few shows that are on that next level. There's pretty much The Wire, Sopranos, Breaking Bad, and then there's everything else. some which are very good shows, but not on that elite level. The Chi is a good show that has potential to be a very good show. That's about it.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Mon Mar-12-18 01:37 PM
34. "This is completely false" In response to Reply # 29
I throw on random episodes for the fuck of it some nights and the writing is phenomenal
Like dude said, the clothing and the tech is dated but the actual show is still incredible.
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44. "Gotta re-watch the Wire as a series. Individual episodes do lose context..." In response to Reply # 29
I usually rewatch series from the very beginning like I'm watching for the first time again. I just can't get back into a show like the Wire if I jump in somewhere in the middle.
Not saying that's what you did, just a suggestion.
49. "It didn't seem rushed at all to me." In response to Reply # 48
One thing I really like about this show is that it never feels the need to press the action by inserting alotta unnecessary drama. The finale was what I want from a finale in that it had slightly more going on than a normal episode (which this show can actually afford, unlike some other shows) and it provided some closure to the season while giving me plenty to look forward to.
Gonna be waiting for season 2 with 'babies breath'(c)
51. "yeah it definitely left me wanting more which I guess is kinda the point..." In response to Reply # 49
I think the storyline with the kids is my favorite. Growing up I was a combination of Kevin and Papa and I had friend that was very similar to Jake that went down a different path, it definitely hits home.
Steven Williams portrayal of Quentin is both compelling and problematic.
I can identify with Brandon also, a good guy from the hood trying to do the right thing but he keeps getting sucked back in plus his complicated relationship with Jerrika.
Brandon's cousin Hannibal might've been my favorite character I hope they bring him back lol.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Tue Mar-20-18 12:09 PM
62. "The play at the end man" In response to Reply # 51
You see the 2 kids being kids..
and the other kid is in the crowd, lost his innocence after seeing his brother kill ole boy, you could see he wished he was on stage.
Dope scene.
I just wish dude didn’t tell his mom they found the killer before she signed that offer. He had to know she wasn’t going to sign once she heard that news. Then again, he never wanted her to sell to begin with.
and then the whole “you slept with a coworker”
Man, why fools always sleep with their coworker as soon as shit goes left at home?
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Wed Mar-21-18 12:20 PM
65. "dude said "but I quit my job" lol" In response to Reply # 64
well she didn't playa
worst part was dudes boss' wife was fine as shit but she snitched quick fast.
How does he know about us? What US?
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Wed Mar-21-18 12:58 PM
69. "He said he hit... " In response to Reply # 66
So I guess the night didn’t end with a kiss.
I mean, I wouldn’t end it with a kiss based on the vibe she was giving.
I just hate when folks immediately go and tell their SO. Makes it seem like they used a person just to help them get out of a relationship.
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54. "Atlanta is good show but I feel like people are getting carried away..." In response to Reply # 52
>which is already headed for all timeness
Its still mainly about dudes sitting around getting high. If that's what you're into I could see how you would think its an all-time great.
A story about a 35 year-old "up and coming" rapper and his fuck-up cousin/manager gets old after a while. The peripheral characters actually make the show.
I guess they were going for a black Seinfeld "show about nothing" steeze but it doesn't quite work the same.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Tue Mar-20-18 12:02 PM
58. "Yup. I like Atlanta but folks are doing way too much" In response to Reply # 54
it’s cool that folks love it but pretty soon it’s going to be some “OMG, the scene where they didn’t speak” it said soooo much about the plight of Black folk.
The slice was deafening.
Fools starting to sound like the white dude at the Juneteenth party.
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68. "Who thinks Atlanta is deep?" In response to Reply # 58
Do people really look for the deeper meaning in the scenes? I think it's the most straightforward non-sitcom I've seen in a while.
>it’s cool that folks love it but pretty soon it’s going >to be some “OMG, the scene where they didn’t speak” it >said soooo much about the plight of Black folk. > >The slice was deafening. > >Fools starting to sound like the white dude at the Juneteenth >party. > >
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Wed Mar-21-18 01:16 PM
70. "I wasn't trying to imply folks think its deep" In response to Reply # 68
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53. "LOL why cant you like both?" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Mar-19-18 10:29 AM by Heinz
Also i like both shows but the titles are so fucking lazy to me.
For someone so creative like Glover....that shit is a lazy title. And ATL already was a movie. I wish this had a different title. Its memorable and easy to remember but creatively unlike him or what i would expect from him.
57. "The Chi as good as it is is basic as sh*t" In response to Reply # 0 Tue Mar-20-18 11:54 AM by adg87
My boy tried to compare it to the Wire, and I damn near decapitated him. The Chi's gangsta angle especially is sooo predicatable. You can pretty much anticipate what's next.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Tue Mar-20-18 12:03 PM
59. "But... that’s the best comparison for the show IMO" In response to Reply # 57
it’s Def not as good but it’s pretty much following the same blueprint...
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legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Tue Mar-20-18 12:10 PM
63. "Yeah, ain’t no one touching the writing on The Wire" In response to Reply # 60
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74. "Chi question for those who finished the season" In response to Reply # 0
Spoilers
So Ronnie goes to prison for killing who he thought was his son's murderer. We later find out Quentin was Jason's real father (and he takes care of Jason's actual killers) I read a review a few weeks back that said Jason was a product of Tracy being raped by Quentin. Was this revealed in the show, or suggested in the show? I don't know if i completely missed it, or the reviewer was just making an assumption.
must have been a one liner in some dialogue between Tracy and Ronnie?
Did she reveal it at the support group meeting?
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81. "But why these two shows? They are not even in the same lane." In response to Reply # 80
thats my point
a better comparison would be
The Chi vs. Queen Sugar or The Chi vs. GreenLeaf or even The Chi vs. Black Lightning
what do these two shows exactly have in common besides being TV shows about black people...they don't even really reference the same struggles or use the same archetypes
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79629 posts
Tue Apr-03-18 02:41 PM
84. "I laughed at The Chi vs Black Lightning" In response to Reply # 81
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