What if racism was treated like the mental illness that it is?

I.e. Mental Illness = disorders that affect your mood, thinking and behavior.

What would the world be like if they were in padded rooms instead of running the streets?

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-du

but so is self identifying as a race so most would be locked up

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i ain't really the type to be spilling a whole dissertation of my thoughts but i'm responsive.

care to try again?

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-du

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so ppl using made up ideals (kinda like imaginary friends) to justify enslavement and constant bereavement of

a ppl and you find what i'm saying funny?

i mean i guess.

just a thought money. felt like sharing.

nm

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-du

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i wouldn't say its an out as much as its a plain fact.

you would argue that a racist isn't mentally ill in any way?

cause i'm thinkin they have to be. that's no excuse.

what's the out? i'm not trying to excuse anyone of anything. merely pointing out the obvious.

this is discourse.

I'm interested in seeing what other opinions and ideas are out there specifically on this board.

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you can't be born that way i understand that much and wouldn't argue to that end.

but

is this not mental? is this not an illness?

i'm just sayin.

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-du

Usually when racists acts happen they are categorized as 'mental illness' issues making it easy to pretend racism isn't a real issue. (see Dylan Roof who went from being an anti-christian attacker to mentally ill before those white supremacist photos came out)

While we can make an argument if the concept of 'evil' is a mental illness or not in this day and age it's a rough one to argue when you've got so many rational, even minded racists out there who are generally 'good' people their neighbors would admit but find a way to thing of us as subhuman.

>you can't be born that way i understand that much and
>wouldn't argue to that end.
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>but
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>is this not mental? is this not an illness?
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>i'm just sayin.
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Usually when racists acts happen they are categorized as 'mental illness' issues making it easy to pretend racism isn't a real issue.

Racism is such an issue that by categorizing it as a mental illness, you can try to treat and/or rehabilitate.

i guess the problem with that is that criminals use mental illness to alleviate guilt in general. I think we're playing on semantics but his idea isnt a terrible one. I'm just not sure how the execution of it would play out.

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>While we can make an argument if the concept of 'evil' is a
>mental illness or not in this day and age it's a rough one to
>argue when you've got so many rational, even minded racists
>out there who are generally 'good' people their neighbors
>would admit but find a way to thing of us as subhuman.

i get it tho. there are ppl who believe some dumb sht and don't really get any flack since they aren't

running through the streets waving flags and shouting slurs like _______ .

"opening your mouth removes all doubt"

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-du

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

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-du

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

i mean think on it.

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-du

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

Its just a personal preference

So then is homophobia an illness too??

>Its just a personal preference
>
>So then is homophobia an illness too??

prolly.

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-du

Maybe it's both? I don't know, but this is why I try to keep as much distance from it as a belief system as I can because illness or not it makes people crazy

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

>Maybe it's both? I don't know, but this is why I try to keep
>as much distance from it as a belief system as I can because
>illness or not it makes people crazy

are mentally ill ppl not considered crazy?

i mean that's pretty much my premise.

there could be a treatment for the illness but what or how i couldn't begin to explain.

definitely some reconditioning needed though.

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Bad idea

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that'd be a worse idea.

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-du

taking responsibility is worst. People who should be in padded rooms now are not, you want to add to that list ?

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>taking responsibility is worst. People who should be in
>padded rooms now are not, you want to add to that list ?


that's a serious issue. ppl undiagnosed and not being treated is a crime in and of itself.

i don't want overpopulated mental institutions any more than overpopulated prisons or schools

i'm merely proposing to call it what I've reasoned it to be - a mental illness

I understand the wiggle room and accountability factor and don't want to diminish any personal responsibility in any way

that's not a reasonable proposal to begin with

mentally ill ppl are capable of being responsible for their actions depending on the severity of their illness*

severe cases should receive treatment and it's a crime that they don't

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-du

to get out of crimes they committed.

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>that's a serious issue. ppl undiagnosed and not being treated
>is a crime in and of itself.
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a way for the majority to avoid going to jail, another double standard that will work for whites and against everyone else.

>i don't want overpopulated mental institutions any more than
>overpopulated prisons or schools
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>i'm merely proposing to call it what I've reasoned it to be -
>a mental illness
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It's not even worth going down that path and suggesting it given the harm it will cause.

>I understand the wiggle room and accountability factor and
>don't want to diminish any personal responsibility in any way
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>that's not a reasonable proposal to begin with
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>mentally ill ppl are capable of being responsible for their
>actions depending on the severity of their illness*
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>severe cases should receive treatment and it's a crime that
>they don't
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Sounds like an excuse for people to avoid going to jail for the crimes they commit.

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what i find myself thinking is who wrote the law and why would it absolve them of
wrongdoing unless it was merely a precedent for potentially worse outcomes?

mental illnesses can be treated.* maybe not always cured but treated nonetheless

a criminal that gets off on the technicality of "mental illness" or "insanity" or what have you doesn't absolve

them of guilt. If they did it, they did it. What happens next?

I'm no lawyer so that's more of a question for someone in the know but I don't think it's an appropriate

out in any event.

*not too certain if treatment would work on racism but it should be treated rather than
just left to its devices as many mental illnesses go

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-du

racism is something that a person can change his mind about. its a decision to continue being racist. of course, the environment plays a huge part too, but adults are making the choice to be racists.

and it would be another avenue to let people off the hook when they shoot up folks that look diff than themselves.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

>racism is something that a person can change his mind about.
>its a decision to continue being racist. of course, the
>environment plays a huge part too, but adults are making the
>choice to be racists.
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>and it would be another avenue to let people off the hook when
>they shoot up folks that look diff than themselves.

how about considering a change of environment as treatment.

change in anything could be considered treatment for the supposed "illness".

without it, would anyone change their mind?

why change your mind if you don't really see a reason to?

ill people don't always know they're ill, dig?

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-du

>how about considering a change of environment as treatment.

how will this happen? folks would have to make this decision on their own. There are enough resources to get as much information as required by a person willing to change. they can move or surround themselves with folks not like them or that think differently.

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>change in anything could be considered treatment for the
>supposed "illness".

how would this be measured? who makes that call? how will natural bias play into this?
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>without it, would anyone change their mind?

yes, but its up to the person to make that change.
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>why change your mind if you don't really see a reason to?

its a personal decision. this happens now with people growing and interacting with other people. it happens the opposite way where folks get more racists too.
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>ill people don't always know they're ill, dig?

I agree here, but his isn't a disease or illness......to me.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

>>how about considering a change of environment as treatment.
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>how will this happen? folks would have to make this decision
>on their own. There are enough resources to get as much
>information as required by a person willing to change. they
>can move or surround themselves with folks not like them or
>that think differently.
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yeah any treatment has to be performed on a voluntary basis unless the patient is
unable to make the decision and there need be a parent/partner/family member
to admit them for treatment

at least that's how i believe it works.


>>change in anything could be considered treatment for the
>>supposed "illness".
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>how would this be measured? who makes that call? how will
>natural bias play into this?
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>>without it, would anyone change their mind?
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>yes, but its up to the person to make that change.
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>>why change your mind if you don't really see a reason to?
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>its a personal decision. this happens now with people growing
>and interacting with other people. it happens the opposite way
>where folks get more racists too.
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>>ill people don't always know they're ill, dig?
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>I agree here, but his isn't a disease or illness......to me.
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by his - who are we talking about? Dylan Roof? cause i didn't really specify anyone but his name came up earlier.

"It's the return of the gangsta, thanks ta..."

-du

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

>What would the world be like if they were in padded rooms
>instead of running the streets?

The mentally ill be running in the streets more than they get put in padded rooms.

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You know it's drama, but it sound real good.

>>What would the world be like if they were in padded rooms
>>instead of running the streets?
>
>The mentally ill be running in the streets more than they get
>put in padded rooms.

so its pretty safe to argue that lawmakers only care about the mentally ill* enough to let them run the streets freely since they don't really know what to do with them?

*racists

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-du

point.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

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-du

Racism or racist notions/attitudes are most certainly are.

Someone who is racist has a distorted viewpoint that they are choosing to adopt...someone who is mentally ill didn't voluntarily decide to have whatever ailment they have.

>Racism or racist notions/attitudes are most certainly are.
>
>Someone who is racist has a distorted viewpoint that they are
>choosing to adopt...someone who is mentally ill didn't
>voluntarily decide to have whatever ailment they have.
>

for the most part i agree, except where you see mental illness as an ailment they inherit

that's not always the case - some things develop with the passing of time or trauma

mental illness isn't necessarily a birthright

perhaps you meant mental handicap/disability - that can't really be helped

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-du

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Unless you believe a 99% of white folks were mentally for the majority of recorded history... which doesn't make sense.

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It's a symptom of a society that looks to rank the worth of a human based on skin color. Racism is the creation of industry and institutions dedicated to spreading and upholding its poisonous ideology.

There are sane racists. Donald Trump is not someone who I'd call a sane racist. But David Duke and Richard Spencer are. Jeff Sessions is. Also, the millions of people who rationalize and ignore racism are. We are witness the inevitable conclusion of a country's karma coming back around.

White people will no longer be the majority in about 20 years. The white supremacist seek to stave off the inevitable destruction to their means of prosperity for as long as possible.

The country has to take its medicine in order to heal. The federal government must get to a place where it can lead the nation into a state of reconciliation and reparation...not merely material but psychologically as well. Nothing can cover up the amount of evil inflicted in the name of American progress.

And if all of these people are 'mentally ill', shouldn't they be sequestered somewhere? The mentally ill go to asylums. Where should these people go?
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>It's a symptom of a society that looks to rank the worth of a
>human based on skin color. Racism is the creation of industry
>and institutions dedicated to spreading and upholding its
>poisonous ideology.
>
>There are sane racists. Donald Trump is not someone who I'd
>call a sane racist. But David Duke and Richard Spencer are.
>Jeff Sessions is. Also, the millions of people who rationalize
>and ignore racism are. We are witness the inevitable
>conclusion of a country's karma coming back around.
>
>White people will no longer be the majority in about 20 years.
> The white supremacist seek to stave off the inevitable
>destruction to their means of prosperity for as long as
>possible.
>
>The country has to take its medicine in order to heal. The
>federal government must get to a place where it can lead the
>nation into a state of reconciliation and reparation...not
>merely material but psychologically as well. Nothing can
>cover up the amount of evil inflicted in the name of American
>progress.

truth and reconciliation may not compute to people capable of brutally enslaving and annihilating people on the basis
that they don't share simple commonalities with them.

the illness is definitely spread socially - no argument there. the root is that mental deficiency.

It's like James Baldwin said "Why was there a need to have a nigger in the first place?"

>And if all of these people are 'mentally ill', shouldn't they
>be sequestered somewhere? The mentally ill go to asylums.
>Where should these people go?
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I'm not sure where people with this illness* should go. facetiously i'd suggest hell but that's not cool to wish death
on the mentally ill right?

They definitely never should have the ability to impact society at the very least. You can't be making laws and sht like that when you're unable to accept diversity. That's one thing that absolutely must end if this American experiment is going anywhere stable.


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-du

Great example between Trump and Duke, but even with White America becoming a minority that group will still hold the majority of the wealth or in other words have the means to keep systemic racism going.

Racists hold ALL of the blame for their racism.

So...FOH. Kindly.

fuck you.

Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

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restriction and maybe some separation so they don't infect the future of human race with their ideals
would be better suited than any form of imprisonment.

I know that wasn't detailed in the OP but that makes more sense in my mind.

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-du

"I can't help it. It's a chemical imbalance"

"I have a disease. It's not really me"

"My client doesn't deserve jail time, your honour. His racism is an illness. Rehabilitation in the community and with his family will be in his best interest"

"End the stigma against people suffering from racism"

>"I can't help it. It's a chemical imbalance"
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>"I have a disease. It's not really me"
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>"My client doesn't deserve jail time, your honour. His racism
>is an illness. Rehabilitation in the community and with his
>family will be in his best interest"
>
>"End the stigma against people suffering from racism"

None of which would be legitimate arguments unless client(s) with illness are willing to undergo

treatment. If unwilling, you can't be a part of society as you are a "danger to yourself and others" when
you are diagnosed with a mental illness. (right or wrong?)

For instance, if you're diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia - you can't get a license to carry a firearm.

Why would you be granted that liberty when chances are high that you'll abuse it?

Same thing I'd be wondering about releasing someone charged with a crime just because they're mentally ill.

What's to be done to stop it from repeating? idk. that's a serious issue though.

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-du

I feel where you're going.

The vast majority of white people are insane, then.

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-du

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you laugh but people get disability checks for far more ridiculous sht as it is.


and that check is suppose to be used towards some form of treatment as well as sustenance since
they probably can't find suitable employment due to whatever their illness is.

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