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tomjohn29
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"Protocol for a co-worker making a pass"


  

          

where the hell do you go from there?

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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I think on average the unemployment line but I'm not well versed
Jul 31st 2017
1
Send an email to yourself about the incident
Jul 31st 2017
2
You sound concerned.
Jul 31st 2017
3
You sound pressed
Jul 31st 2017
7
which words made you sense fear?
Jul 31st 2017
16
      "where the hell"
Jul 31st 2017
17
Are we the passer or are we the passe
Jul 31st 2017
4
the latter with some gestures
Jul 31st 2017
6
Y'all playing basketball?
Jul 31st 2017
5
Is she above or below you on that totem pole?
Jul 31st 2017
8
She married?
Jul 31st 2017
9
She cute?
Jul 31st 2017
      yes to both
Jul 31st 2017
11
           Understand that this will be your better half in a month:
Jul 31st 2017
20
i believe at this point you get some drinks...
Jul 31st 2017
10
happily married...but a threesome may be in the cards*
Jul 31st 2017
12
      nvm then. i agree w/ the above...email yourself so the date is on record...
Jul 31st 2017
13
Emailing yourself sounds like server snitching to me
Jul 31st 2017
14
damn we just talked about this in EEO training
Jul 31st 2017
15
**rolls eyes**
Jul 31st 2017
18
how exactly am I not standing up for my marriage?
Jul 31st 2017
21
      its an off the cuff response based on your limited details....
Jul 31st 2017
25
Email her this video.
Jul 31st 2017
19
Take it from an HR professional...
Jul 31st 2017
22
appreciate this
Jul 31st 2017
23
      This step:
Jul 31st 2017
24
      HR is protecting the employer - not you.
Jul 31st 2017
26
      lol...part of HR is to protect the company's employees as well
Jul 31st 2017
28
      your wife likely low key geeked off this
Jul 31st 2017
29
           ..or she could chuckle since she prolly gets hit on 3X as much
Aug 01st 2017
31
Smash or chill.
Jul 31st 2017
27
right. good gracious.
Aug 01st 2017
41
did she get grabby, press up on you?
Aug 01st 2017
30
LOL, ya'll doing 4much in here without having full details....
Aug 01st 2017
32
niggas been married so long they forgot how to act
Aug 01st 2017
33
Get complimented on your tie & interpret it as a full court press....
Aug 01st 2017
34
your minivan is so spacious... *blushes*
Aug 01st 2017
35
excuse me tomjohn? GETAWAY BITCH, I'M MARRIED!!!
Aug 01st 2017
36
      "Can I borrow some of your cream for my coffee?" >> *swears off coffee
Aug 01st 2017
37
           i hope he don't work in IT. Dudes in IT stay thinking women want them
Aug 01st 2017
38
           She gave me them IP digits fam.
Aug 01st 2017
40
           Joins Tea Party
Aug 01st 2017
39
lol but I'm assuming they are forced to interact for work purposes
Aug 01st 2017
42
      Nah, all just jokes...
Aug 01st 2017
44
I feel like I'm missing something or there was an edit.
Aug 01st 2017
43
is this a first time or has been pressing you?
Aug 01st 2017
45

Atillah Moor
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1. "I think on average the unemployment line but I'm not well versed "
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in such matters

  

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rhchick
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2. "Send an email to yourself about the incident"
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and how it made you feel

In case things go terribly wrong you have proof of the fucked up behavior

  

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c71
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3. "You sound concerned."
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Why aren't you more confident about the situation?

Sounds like you feel scared about what might happen.


It would be sort of "powerful" for you to set the ground rules for what goes down in your career.


Sounds like you aren't setting ground rules if you're concerned.

  

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legsdiamond
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7. "You sound pressed"
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Yes

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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16. "which words made you sense fear?"
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Mon Jul-31-17 02:57 PM by makaveli

  

          

or was the og post edited?

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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c71
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17. ""where the hell""
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that sounds "panic-y"

  

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4. "Are we the passer or are we the passe"
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Did we subtly walk behind Bob at the expresso machine and make a 'Ive got something strong and dark I think that you can take'.

Were we quietly working on an excel spreadsheet when Susan comments that if you like to fill in boxes she's got a box that's been waiting to be filled for a minute now?

  

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tomjohn29
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6. "the latter with some gestures"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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flipnile
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5. "Y'all playing basketball?"
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Can't help you, man. All of the coworkers that flirt with me are older women that I play off gently.

  

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legsdiamond
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8. "Is she above or below you on that totem pole? "
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If above, better get your resume out or get to ducking

If below, bribes and blackmail. make her get you coffee and donuts.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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flipnile
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9. "She married?"
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legsdiamond
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"She cute?"


          

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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tomjohn29
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11. "yes to both"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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20. "Understand that this will be your better half in a month:"
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https://onceuponascreen.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/14.png?w=510&h=270

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One Hundred.

  

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10. "i believe at this point you get some drinks..."
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lower those inhibitions, and fuck.

  

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tomjohn29
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12. "happily married...but a threesome may be in the cards*"
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*that was a joke...happily married though

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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13. "nvm then. i agree w/ the above...email yourself so the date is on record..."
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and write it down to CYA.

then, just try your best to ignore that shit.

  

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legsdiamond
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14. "Emailing yourself sounds like server snitching to me"
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Unless she touched me I ain't saying shit to nobody about nothing.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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15. "damn we just talked about this in EEO training"
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Lady said you got one shot. IF you blow it, you done. if you continue, its harassment. Anything other than a yes, is a no.

talk about pressure.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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18. "**rolls eyes**"
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>where the hell do you go from there?
>
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stand up for you marriage, lol

  

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tomjohn29
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21. "how exactly am I not standing up for my marriage?"
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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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25. "its an off the cuff response based on your limited details...."
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19. "Email her this video."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZTgpgafrdI

  

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22. "Take it from an HR professional..."
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Document the incident (who, what, when, where, how).

Send HR an email with the particulars. State that you're not offended and don't intend to pursue it but you want it on record in case anything jumps off.

As a happily married man, let her (the interested party) know that you're flattered but the wife would kill you if you didn't share so you're going to have to take a hard pass (if she is receptive to the idea of you, her and wifey, let her know you were just joking...lol amazing you have to do this now-a-days).

Any interaction after that, try to make sure 3rd parties are present and document anything that crosses professional lines (especially if you're alone with her). Whatever you document, send a cc to HR. Things get outta hand, you're covered. She won't take no for answer, you'd have a clear cut path to a harassment claim.

And when trouble starts to brew, key in wifey...trust me, you don't want her to be the last to know some chic is harassing you at work to the point you had to file a claim.

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23. "appreciate this"
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Wifey knows already...and I'll start drafting something to HR
I was kind of apprehensive about contacting anyone but just working it out with her...but the more I think about it the more I probably should get all this in the open and on the record

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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24. "This step:"
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>Wifey knows already...

Saves you tons of headaches later. Kudos.

and I'll start drafting something to
>HR
>I was kind of apprehensive about contacting anyone but just
>working it out with her...but the more I think about it the
>more I probably should get all this in the open and on the
>record

Yeah, even if you don't file a claim (and express that if you don't want to), them being aware helps if say she reverses it all because she gets embarrassed by your rejection and files a claim against you.

Also tell HR of your intention to decline and inform them of when and how you did it. The more details, the better. Account for witnesses if there are any. Less your word vs her word is better if possible.

Hopefully, she takes to polite 'no' and things don't get weird or out of hand afterward.

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26. "HR is protecting the employer - not you."
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Watch out.

fuck you.

  

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28. "lol...part of HR is to protect the company's employees as well"
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There are actually laws around that too.

I gave him the 'employee perspective' advice. If this happened in my company, what I told him to do would protect him against any future crazy that might go down. And the more robust his evidence, the stronger his case in such a sitch. As a lawyer, you should appreciate this.

Plus, now Tom has a paper trail of his reporting things should his company fail to act, upon which he can sue if so.

A company's perspective on this is different. We'd document his info along with our own memos and if necessary, follow up and evaluate it on it's merits. If she doesn't back off, they can fire her for cause and have preemptive proof that she engaged in harassment. That protects the company more than anything so Tom won't file harassment/discrimination cases against the employer for negligent action on his potential claim (see Fox news).

I agree, HR is there to protect the company firstly but things like harassment claims/investigations are cut and dry with confirmed evidence.

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29. "your wife likely low key geeked off this"
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women don't want you to cheat, but they wanna know you COULD cheat lol

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If life is stupendous one cannot also demand that it should be easy. - Robert Musil

  

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31. "..or she could chuckle since she prolly gets hit on 3X as much"
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dudes be calling 411 and 911 when they get hit on and shit while women endure it damn near every day.

ain't no need to make a scene unless ole girl is messy and has a history of getting dudes in trouble.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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27. "Smash or chill."
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It's just flirtation.

fuck you.

  

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41. "right. good gracious."
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30. "did she get grabby, press up on you? "
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if she just holla'd all you have to do is decline and K.I.M.

seems like going to HR might make it worse. I could see her being like

"NAH, that NIGGA wanted all this white sugar!!!"

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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32. "LOL, ya'll doing 4much in here without having full details...."
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Tomjohn, please define "made a pass"
Gotta be sure you're sure what happened in these situations...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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33. "niggas been married so long they forgot how to act "
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who do I call?

what do I do?



smash or pass.. shit ain't rocket science.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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34. "Get complimented on your tie & interpret it as a full court press...."
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Meanwhile Susie just trying to get in your head so she can coax you outta the Time Off request that you put in for the same week she's trying to go to Cancun...


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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35. "your minivan is so spacious... *blushes* "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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36. "excuse me tomjohn? GETAWAY BITCH, I'M MARRIED!!! "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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37. ""Can I borrow some of your cream for my coffee?" >> *swears off coffee"
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in the workplace forever because it drives the female coworkers craaaaaazy*


"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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38. "i hope he don't work in IT. Dudes in IT stay thinking women want them"
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meanwhile they just want a new wireless mouse

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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40. "She gave me them IP digits fam. "
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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39. "Joins Tea Party "
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just to prove my love is real.

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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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micMajestic
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Tue Aug-01-17 11:25 AM

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42. "lol but I'm assuming they are forced to interact for work purposes"
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>smash or pass.. shit ain't rocket science.

I don't think he would make this post if he was in the shallow end of the pool, he's never given me the social misfit vibe that a lot of other folks on here have.
You're well aware of some of the things women say & do when their constant advances are rebuffed homie.

  

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FLUIDJ
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Tue Aug-01-17 11:33 AM

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44. "Nah, all just jokes..."
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"Get ready....for your blessing....."

  

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denny
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43. "I feel like I'm missing something or there was an edit."
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Tue Aug-01-17 11:30 AM by denny

          

In life, people try to persuade other people to have sex with them. Reporting this to HR seems like a morally despicable act to me....possibly amounting to a form of harassment in it of itself.

  

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tariqhu
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45. "is this a first time or has been pressing you?"
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first time, I'd chill. if you've told her nah and she'll still trying, then I could see getting HR involved.

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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