"So what the hell do I do with this Google Home? " Thu Jun-22-17 12:03 PM by WarriorPoet415
So bought some new appliances over the Memorial Day sales period.
Best Buy was giving away Google Homes with purchases over a certain amount.
But I see you can't really get the full benefit of it if you don't have a chromecast connect to your television, or if you don't have google play music.
It's kind of dope, but I wish it was Alexa since I'm an Amazon Prime member. If I had chromecast and all Android devices, it seems like it would be hot shit.
Right now all I do with it is ask asinine questions from time to time. ______________________________________________________________________________
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." -unknown
1. "Sign up for Google Play Music. It's good. Real good." In response to Reply # 0
>But I see you can't really get the full benefit of it if you >don't have a chromecast connect to your television, or if you >don't have google play music.
Nah, I don't agree with that. Not at all. You basically now have a google that can talk back to you.
>It's kind of dope, but I wish it was Alexa since I'm an Amazon >Prime member. If I had chromecast and all Android devices, it >seems like it would be hot shit.
Alexa is better...but I would not shy away from a free Google Home at all lol....
6. "I don't get that. That's just a phone. " In response to Reply # 4
Like I know why Amazon went the route it did, because they couldn't get a phone in peoples hands. Of course they would eventually need a screen.
But I never quite understood why Google and Apple went the same route as Alexa.
All they really needed was a docking station with a mic that hooked up to your stereo. Don't really need the docking station but I feel like Google Assistant always listening would drain the shit out my phone.
>http://tinyurl.com/swapitoutsun > >They should have given you an option of one or the other >though. > >But I'm coppin' 2 of the linked joints and a thermostat that >has Alexa in it too (maybe). > >Building a new crip and gonna have it 'semi-smart'.
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
7. "Mayne Google Home has changed my life. " In response to Reply # 0
It's my alarm in the morning.
When I wake up I say good morning and it gives me a run down of appointments and todays news and weather.
Then I ask it to play spotify, pandora or google music for me. If I want it louder I tell it to cast the music to my sony sound bar.
Then I ask it all sorts of random questions that I would otherwise google search. This morning I asked it what time the 99 cent store around the corner opens.
Then I bought a harmony hub. Now I can use it to control my TV. Drives the boys crazy when I say, Hey Google turn off the TV.
I use it a lot more than I thought I would.
>So bought some new appliances over the Memorial Day sales >period. > >Best Buy was giving away Google Homes with purchases over a >certain amount. > >But I see you can't really get the full benefit of it if you >don't have a chromecast connect to your television, or if you >don't have google play music. > >It's kind of dope, but I wish it was Alexa since I'm an Amazon >Prime member. If I had chromecast and all Android devices, it >seems like it would be hot shit. > >Right now all I do with it is ask asinine questions from time >to time. >______________________________________________________________________________ > >cscpov.blogspot.com > >"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." >-unknown > >"To Each His Reach"
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
11. "RE: What you mean? Only got one. It cast to several devices in my house" In response to Reply # 9
What I mean is, I have a TH. The Google Home is in my living room. It wouldn't be able to be my alarm clock, I'd have to go downstairs to ask it anything. Plus I guess I just don't have the devices that it can connect with. Plus I find it useless that it can't even work as a bluetooth speaker or make calls.
In my place in BK it's in the living room. I either go in the living room to turn it off or yell at it to turn off from my bed.
It works as a speaker for my phone but it doesn't use bluetooth. It uses wifi and the chromecasting tech.
At this point with phone, tv and speaker bar, I am deep in the android ecosystem.
>What I mean is, I have a TH. The Google Home is in my living >room. It wouldn't be able to be my alarm clock, I'd have to go >downstairs to ask it anything. Plus I guess I just don't have >the devices that it can connect with. Plus I find it useless >that it can't even work as a bluetooth speaker or make calls. > > >______________________________________________________________________________ > >cscpov.blogspot.com > >"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." >-unknown > >"To Each His Reach"
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
17. "What kind of phone you have?" In response to Reply # 15
It's hard to be THAT deep in the Amazon echo system.
Chromecast like 20 bucks.
>basically, I should have an Alexa instead. Sounds like Google >Home works best when you are in the ecosystem built for it. > >Such is life. >______________________________________________________________________________ > >cscpov.blogspot.com > >"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." >-unknown > >"To Each His Reach"
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
18. "RE: What kind of phone you have?" In response to Reply # 17
iPhone 7.
I've checked. Not too much I can do with it with the Google Home.
But I do have an android tablet. Might see if I can hook something up there. ______________________________________________________________________________
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"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." -unknown
20. "my uses it with her ipone but mostly with spotify. " In response to Reply # 18
>iPhone 7. > >I've checked. Not too much I can do with it with the Google >Home. > >But I do have an android tablet. Might see if I can hook >something up there. >______________________________________________________________________________ > >cscpov.blogspot.com > >"There's a fine line between persistence and foolishness..." >-unknown > >"To Each His Reach"
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
TheAlbionist Member since Jul 04th 2011 3306 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 10:24 AM
21. "I've got Chromecast and Amazon Fire TV (box)" In response to Reply # 10
If the Chromecast broke tomorrow I'd replace it immediately. I could do without the Amazon... but not being able to cast a tab? Not sure I can live without that now.
22. "except that's not how these things work at all...." In response to Reply # 19
yes, they probably store your "browsing" history and query's , but they aren't recording devices. They listen and process commands & queries only after being triggered.
Those things are recording. They are microphones connected to I dunno what. What/whomever is on the other end can listen. How else do you think the thing responds to a voice prompt? It's always listening - it responds when it hears a preprogrammed word. It's always on. Always listening. Recording.
25. "Do you realize how much storage space and bandwidth would" In response to Reply # 23
be required to store a single household's worth of sound 24hrs/day 365 days/year? Let alone how useless it'd be for any company selling those products to actively do so??
Always listening =/= recording.
>https://techcrunch.com/2017/03/12/alexa-privacy/ > >Those things are recording. They are microphones connected to >I dunno what. What/whomever is on the other end can listen. >How else do you think the thing responds to a voice prompt? >It's always listening - it responds when it hears a >preprogrammed word. It's always on. Always listening. >Recording.
27. "So you didn't read the article, I take it?" In response to Reply # 25 Fri Jun-23-17 11:09 AM by SoWhat
K.
In Arkansas, prosecutors subpoenaed RECORDINGS made by Alexa in a murder case. Amazon gave them the recording. ACLU and other similar orgs are concerned about the ramifications of these cases bc the law isn't clear yet. But what is clear - Amazon will give up the recordings made by Alexa. Which means - Alexa makes recordings.
Good luck, player.
*note: I don't know any criminal defense lawyer or civil rights lawyer who has a recording device thing (aka 'home assistant') installed. Lol
29. "Yes, I read that article back when it came out, and once again " In response to Reply # 27
just now when you linked it.
There's technical capability, and then there's what a company would feasibly do and want to do. As I already stated, they listen and action query's upon hearing the trigger word. Those are stored indeed, just like you browser history, listening history on your favorite streaming service, etc....
People insinuate that these devices are actively listening and recording and storing everything you speak in your home and i'm saying not only is that not true, it's not feasibly possible on the large scale that'd be required to maintain it.
Also this blurb in the article alludes to that fact:
"......... Google only stores voice-based queries received immediately after recognizing the hotwords ‘OK Google’ or ‘Hey Google.’ After Google Home hears the hotword, its LEDs light up to indicate that it is listening. Hotword detection runs locally on the Google Home device and if the hotword is not detected, the audio snippet stays local on the device and is immediately discarded. If the hotword is recognized, the data, including the query contents, are sent to Google servers for analyzing and storage in My Activity."
Of course, it's all about the clicks so this article doesn't bother to explore the technical side of this any deeper, they just real you in with the clickbait and hysteria .....
WIth that said....YES I DO believe that these devices COULD be used to frame and set somebody up if some high level agency decided to..... But I don't for a second believe that these devices are being used in that capacity en mass....
32. "I don't believe what Google says about the device." In response to Reply # 31 Fri Jun-23-17 11:37 AM by SoWhat
Bc we know it sometimes hears the trigger word when no one has said it. Which means it might turn on and record when it's not 'supposed to'. Also, I did a risk/benefit analysis and decided I can get up and control my light switches myself. I can turn on music by hand. The devices offer nothing worth the risk.
34. "I mean, I can't argue with that, it's def. a personal choice." In response to Reply # 32
>Bc we know it sometimes years the trigger word when no one >has said it. Which means it might turn on and record when it's >not 'supposed to'.
That's just it though, what it stores is not audio, it stores a search query. And even it did store audio, it only stores the split seconds prior to the trigger word and the length of time after the trigger word to process the query.
Also, I did a risk/benefit analysis and >decided I can get up and control my light switches myself. I >can turn on music by hand. The devices offer nothing worth the >risk.
ultimately i'd be more worried about the stuff i'm typing online and browsing on my computer. But I can't knock your stance on it.
35. "So...it stores audio." In response to Reply # 34
Anyway, the main problem with the thing is the potential privacy waiver. I don't want to give up my reasonable expectation of privacy and I don't want to trust a tech company to assert my rights and protect my privacy in court. Not when I can get my ass up and turn my lights on myself.
36. "Semantics...but yes.... in the broad sense. " In response to Reply # 35
>Anyway, the main problem with the thing is the potential >privacy waiver. I don't want to give up my reasonable >expectation of privacy and I don't want to trust a tech >company to assert my rights and protect my privacy in court. >Not when I can get my ass up and turn my lights on myself.
THIS part I can ride with you on though. It's kinda foul to include a privacy waiver. They could at least be hyper specific about exactly what/how/when they are storing on their servers that they are fine with releasing to authorities. And then allow you to opt out at the expense of a degraded user experience or something....
but for me?? I'll just watch what I say around my technology lol.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 12:24 PM
38. "We give up all types of privacy with these phones and internet" In response to Reply # 36
but somehow Alexa is the debil.
Like incognito is really incognito
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
39. "you sniveling scumbag" In response to Reply # 38 Fri Jun-23-17 12:34 PM by SoWhat
i don't have one of those phones that listens or responds to a trigger word for the same reason i don't have a recording device in my light switches. i also don't have Comcast security cameras all up in my house for these same reasons. b/c i'm not comfortable w/that shit.
i don't leave FB turned on b/c fuck FB and fuck them tracking me.
i don't remain signed in to Google.
i don't fuck w/Google Play.
i don't fuck w/most of that lil digital internet shit you nerdy fuck millennial motherfuckers love b/c i don't need that bullshit tracking me.
i have accepted Apple's tracking device b/c if i lose this piece of shit phone that i fucking hate more than i hate most shit i want to be able to find it.
fuck you. don't respond to me and don't respond to shit about me. bitch.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 12:45 PM
40. "You raggedy, sniffling, coughing, sneezing ass nigga" In response to Reply # 39
You iPhone searching the web looking for dick ass nigga. You really think you doing something by staying off Facebook?
Sit yo monkey ass down and shut the hell up.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 01:06 PM
43. "Lmao, I didn't even say any slick shit" In response to Reply # 41
You would think Cali would make a nigga a lil more relaxed.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 01:25 PM
45. "Fuck your Cali dreams, fuck Zyrtec, fuck Claritin, fuck KY jelly" In response to Reply # 44 Fri Jun-23-17 01:28 PM by legsdiamond
I hope you get an eternal ring of fire.
Flame on my nigga!!!
Edit: why it gotta be like this? Why?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 10:46 AM
24. "gotdamn we some lazy fuckers yo.. lol" In response to Reply # 0
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
26. "pssht, these joints have saved me SO much time & energy...." In response to Reply # 24
Cooking: "Alexa, set timer for 15min"
just the tip of the iceberg...
it's amazing the amount of mundane stuff we do with our cell phones that can now easily be executed by just talking. Multi-tasking in the kitchen and house in general is just so much easier and doable now.
If the kid wants to hear some cheesy kid music, I don't have to unlock my phone, set it to Kids Mode, walk her through queing up appropriate music, searching for music etc.... SHE can just ask Alexa to play it and it happens instantly. If she don't like it (or I don't like it) just tell Alexa to skip it....
28. "Voice controll is sooo convenient. " In response to Reply # 26
Easiest way to play music rather than digging through libraries.
I make my kids do everything on timers (You have 2 minutes to brush your teeth and get in PJs).
>Cooking: "Alexa, set timer for 15min" > >just the tip of the iceberg... > >it's amazing the amount of mundane stuff we do with our cell >phones that can now easily be executed by just talking. >Multi-tasking in the kitchen and house in general is just so >much easier and doable now. > >If the kid wants to hear some cheesy kid music, I don't have >to unlock my phone, set it to Kids Mode, walk her through >queing up appropriate music, searching for music etc.... SHE >can just ask Alexa to play it and it happens instantly. If she >don't like it (or I don't like it) just tell Alexa to skip >it.... > > > > >"Get ready....for your blessing....."
********** "Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 12:22 PM
37. "yeah, that's why I said we are lazy" In response to Reply # 26
It's not like we are saving substantial time. A few seconds at most.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Jun-23-17 01:49 PM
47. "Man, all I said was there is no privacy these days " In response to Reply # 46
and dude came at me with all types of bitches and fuck you's
I didn't even respond to him.
somehow a mod is prolly going to spin this around.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
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