what's up with that?

Henry Louis Gates
Don Lemon
Van Jones
Kamua Bell

my first girlfriend

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i imagine it's not too many black women in their circles to begin with. and pussy is a numbers game so you gotta play the field youre in.

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>i imagine it's not too many black women in their circles to
>begin with. and pussy is a numbers game so you gotta play the
>field youre in.


So that's not really true.

so lets say its 1 black dude. 3 black women and 10 white women (lets say its 10 white dudes in the class to keep it simple.). that black dude probably gonna end up with a white woman.

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>so lets say its 1 black dude. 3 black women and 10 white
>women (lets say its 10 white dudes in the class to keep it
>simple.). that black dude probably gonna end up with a white
>woman.

All these "woke" folks run in the same circles.

>i imagine it's not too many black women in their circles to
>begin with. and pussy is a numbers game so you gotta play the
>field youre in.


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broken down by race?

X of white women
X of black women
X of Asian women

etc, to black males?

I have no dog in the fight and no assumptions on where things fall.

It just seems that looking solely at the ratio of black women to black men is flawed analysis. I think the more accurate ratios would be the number of women to black men and then the number of those women to black men in a given school or region.

So if the ratio of white women to black males in a given school or region is 20-1 and the ratio of black females is 12-1, white females would still outnumber black females by roughly 66%, thus creating a significantly deeper pool of white women as potential options for black males.

Again, no dog in the fight. I just think if we’re looking at options as a reason then the ratio to look at is female to male broken down by race.

>broken down by race?
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>X of white women
>X of black women
>X of Asian women
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>etc, to black males?
>
>I have no dog in the fight and no assumptions on where things
>fall.
>
>It just seems that looking solely at the ratio of black women
>to black men is flawed analysis. I think the more accurate
>ratios would be the number of women to black men and then the
>number of those women to black men in a given school or
>region.
>
>So if the ratio of white women to black males in a given
>school or region is 20-1 and the ratio of black females is
>12-1, white females would still outnumber black females by
>roughly 66%, thus creating a significantly deeper pool of
>white women as potential options for black males.
>
>Again, no dog in the fight. I just think if we’re looking at
>options as a reason then the ratio to look at is female to
>male broken down by race.

Pro Anything people in college are going to run in the same circles. They are going to be in the same on campus organizations, they're going to use each other as a support system.

Because my question would be the same if Buddy were talking about Mexicans eating pizza instead of hot dogs.

The subject matter was immaterial to the question I asked, which was about the ratio he used and whether that was an accurate ratio to use.

>Because my question would be the same if Buddy were talking
>about Mexicans eating pizza instead of hot dogs.
>
>The subject matter was immaterial to the question I asked,
>which was about the ratio he used and whether that was an
>accurate ratio to use.

options than she does, why are you less likely to pick a Black option than she is?

My question was about whether that was an accurate ratio to use.

Again, I'll ask you as you asked me: what part of that do you not understand?

Some of those pro black dudes look like they used to be the type of nerdy black dude in those memes. Probably just never learned how to aggressively holler at black women.

Not gonna front tho, I tend to think at least 1/2 have issues with black women .

>Not gonna front tho, I tend to think at least 1/2 have issues
>with black women.

I don't personally ascribe to the nerd idea, but there's def a line of pro black dudes + white women.

Actually, doing the math in my head I also know a couple of pro-black women with white men, LOL.

being around a mix of people will help inflate your sense of pro-black
but you may not really have many 'options', or you may find the distinction when it comes to finding a mate irrelevant.

>being around a mix of people will help inflate your sense of
>pro-black

just general daily dealings

>I don't personally ascribe to the nerd idea

"Nerd" should probably be in quotes, but the whole "I was a nerd into rock/skateboarding/rafting/etc. and the black guys/girls thought I was weird and didn't like, so I dated white" reasoning. I think I might have heard this one the most over the years.

Not sure how true it is, but it's something that gets said a lot.

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but I guess it's the woke folk in these circles of influence, activist, etc... the guys on TV always talking about their blackness.

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>but I guess it's the woke folk in these circles of influence,
>activist, etc... the guys on TV always talking about their
>blackness.
>

Most of these people are seeking white acceptance
in some form or another. Like people used to think
Kanye was pro-Black until we found out he was
looking for white acceptance of Black people all
along (specifically his right to date white woman).
Plus NOBODY who is effectively empowering Black
people outside of the criteria of white acceptance
is going to be given a regular platform in white
media. Most Black-targeted media outlets will even
steer clear of such a person, but honesty about
Black reality is considered un-PC and not tolerated.

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Van and Kamu def seem pro justice for all tho

and Kamu's podcast with Hari is actually good as fuck

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I'm not clicking that

Don't be scared to click, just a photo of your baby boo thing from Boston

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what if the person just gets you? or is that up there with, "you can't help who you fall in love with". lol

which I find funny.

all these writings about being black, the struggle of being black, the oppression and then you end up in the arms?

I think back to college and all these dudes I knew with black beads trying to school me on blackness and 10 years later at my boys wedding most of them showed up with white wives. My wife thought they were from my spot since I'm from the burbs but these were DC niggas.

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I'm not necessarily rejecting your point yet. But those guys don't seem to fit the question

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seems like these folks tend to discuss race a lot...

Which makes me wonder wtf.

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and all that comes with it? that's all i can come up with, lol.

do you have to be black and only date/marry black to be "pro black?"

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

about "Good Hair", then it would be cool for someone to make a movie about how some upper class/upper middle class, seemingly culturally aware Black males tend to gravitate away from choosing Black women as mates. It won't be about picking White women specifically, but White girls, Latinas, preferring bi-racial women, women that have more Eurocentric features, etc etc

It would be interesting, and hilarious to see the pushback that a film like that would receive from Black males.

shout out to my first GF!!!

why you do me like that?

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Jordan Peele and his wife
Steve McQueen
Donald Glover


its interesting

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Richard Wright
CLR James
Franz Fanon
James Baldwin
Charles Mingus
Jimi Hendrix
Bob Marley

he did smash and procreate with some white women though.

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j/k

wasn't Bob biracial?

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(c) Public Enemy

"direction"

meaning

If a Black person is married to a Black person, that sort of doesn't create identity "tension", therefore the people in that couple can be sort of "...eh" about "Blackness"


however...


If a Black person marries a non-Black person, "tension" seems to be created because outside society (and maybe something inside that Black person, too) always asks "why?"

Therefore, that tension makes that Black person "move" in a direction: either really getting into exploring, examining or promoting the Black identity or going the opposite direction.

edit: for the issue of the Black person going after or being "open" to being with a non-Black person while they are espousing pro-Black identity, the "tension" issue is still there (even though they might not have gotten with anyone non-Black yet) because inside they know that while they are espousing all of this pro-Black messages, inside.....there is something else going on, that stuff going on inside is creating "tension" before they get into a relationship with a non-Black person.

I played college basketball and I think more white women have aggressively hollered at me during college than all other women combined throughout my life. If a black dude's on the football or basketball team and he's not at an HBCU then he's getting mad hollers from white girls usually.

people re-traumatizing.

So even woke and queer black women follow this trend. https://twitter.com/alwaystheself/status/838754175781568512

I wish we could have a dialogue with the woke and interracially partnered w/o putting them on the defense. I actually understand why a black people who studies race/ social justice wouldn't want to be with a black people. It's hard to be with yourself all of the time.

She only has enough energy for her fight and wants to be with someone who can cater to her needs and doesn't have any racial trauma?

I swear, these excuses are fascinating.

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i need some help with specific examples/personal stories of the vicarious trauma black intraracial couples can inflict on each other, cause i'm not entirely sure i'm following.

and i share SnarkMonster's question here: https://twitter.com/alwaystheself/status/838782990931099648

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now voyager sail thou forth to seek and find

and then there's...ya know...the trauma involved with being a finite human being on Planet Earth. #existentialism

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>This professor on Twitter said she finds relationships w/ other black
>people re-traumatizing.


How so? From the comment about "tending to racial
wounds", the problem is white supremacy... so she's
essentially saying "white people have traumatized
my people, so I'm just gonna date white people."
Which she sees white supremacy destroying her
people and has decided to help.


>So even woke and queer black women follow this trend.
>https://twitter.com/alwaystheself/status/838754175781568512
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>I actually understand why a black people who studies race
>social justice wouldn't want to be with a black people.


Why exactly?


>It's hard to be with yourself all of the time.


That's only true for people who hate themselves.
That's only true for people who hate themselves.
That's only true for people who hate themselves.
Really gotta drive that home.
White people don't have that problem... probably
because they were never tortured and torn away
from their families the way slaves brought to
North America were. The history is so deep.
There's nothing more painful than watching
my people accept this brutal conditioning
as somehow part of nature. It's the absolute
most unnatural thing a person could say.
You can't escape yourself.

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ourselves.

Even though I know I don't hate myself, there's a lot of conflicts and contradictions that come with my daily existence.

I pay gentrifier prices to live less than a half mile away from the crack infested housing projects I grew up in. I've adopted a certain level of classism as survival/safety tactic. I run into people I grew up with every once in awhile. If they still live "over there", it's unlikely I'll be interested in kicking it, and/or mingling with their girlfriends/wives, kids, etc.

I get so frustrated being around other Black folks that engage in and celebrate predictably stereotypical behavior in public. But in a gathering of friends & family, I'm ok with it. Because I know we aren't like that all the time.

I get agitated hearing a group of Black women complain about men, but realistically I know collectively we aren't holding up our end of the bargain. A woman can never tell a man how to be a man, but on some level I understand where the disappointment & frustration comes from.

Sometimes I'm happy to have a boy and not a girl, because I don't know how to explain to her that she shouldn't assume she will find a suitable mate of her color. It's just not going to be as easy for her as it is for her white counterparts.

I listen to a ton of rap music, but most successful rappers are paranoid of other people who look like them, and seem to have a distaste towards dark skinned Black women. I understand where people like Calvin Butts were coming from now, our music has promoted self destructive behavior for awhile now. The best thing that came from the whole conscious rap era is that it encouraged disenfranchised Black youth to read more. But that's pretty much it.

I've gotten to a point where I probably won't allow my son to dress a certain way, simply because he will be perceived a certain way by the general public.

It's so annoying to deal with otherwise cool Black folks, that manage to turn EVERYTHING into a racial issue.

I get so disgusted being around people who've internalized racism so much, that they profess a level of hopelessness. And this is purely anecdotal, but sometimes it seems like biracial pro-Black folks don't seem to get as caught up in that hopelessness.

I could see how you could do a lot for "the cause", without surrounding yourself with "Blackness" all the time.

If you recognize all the ways the self-hatred is
taught (which you seem to recognize many), you
have no excuse.


>I could see how you could do a lot for "the cause", without
>surrounding yourself with "Blackness" all the time.


Believe me, I tried that. We may have a fundamental
disagreement about what "the cause" is tho.
I see how so many get the wool pulled over their eyes
thinking everything ISN'T racial. I know how to
move "stealth" if necessary, but I don't forget who I am.
I could address a WHOLE lot of everything else you said,
but that'd make this another post. I'll just say it's
about getting to the root (which is always the practice
of white supremacy, and we're either dealing at the root,
or were exacerbating the problem.

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that's idiotic

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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."