Uber turned off the surge pricing in NYC to accommodate the demand due to cabbies boycotting rides to JFK.
What say you?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
1. "Account this weekend. App in 2014" In response to Reply # 0
I'd download the app just to use it then delete it immediately I recommend anyone does the same if they're going to continue using Uber They don't let you turn location services off. So it's always tracking you. They thing sell that data to government agencies or even think tanks to develop city policy So when you think of how Amazon or Walmart or Uber are run as businesses do you want to help them (for free) work against things that'll make your life better?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
6. "there were people in support of the protest that needed to get home lol" In response to Reply # 0
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
9. "I didn't say protesters, i'm talking about people that support what" In response to Reply # 7
they are protesting but might have just got off a flight.
I know the stoppage was for an hour, but if you had to wait for a cab after that you'd probably be looking at a multi hour wait.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
11. "NYPD was stopping protestors using the trains there and back" In response to Reply # 7 Mon Jan-30-17 11:01 AM by BigReg
Honestly, twitter was a buzzing with pictures of cops forming a battalion line at JFK refusing to let anyone take the train to JFK+arresting anyone who looked at em sideways at Jamaica Station.
While I don't doubt the evilness of UBER (they are patiently waiting to fire everyone on their rolls to replace them with robo-cars), or that they would break a strike in a second...ultimately the world had bigger fish to fry then a bunch of cabbies* whining
*Full disclosure; as a black man in NYC I have a special hatred in my heart for all yellow cab drivers.
**my bad, put cabs instead of trains first time around.
13. "Cen was saying that it was about protesters needing to return" In response to Reply # 11
To which I questioned The cab strike was in protest of the ban as well though
I don't know the ins and outs of what went on in the city at the time, so I'll defer to you all on that. But I contend that the uber fiasco, like many of their others, was about taking advantage out a situation to benefit Uber over anything else.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
17. "nah i wasn't talking about the protesters themselves." In response to Reply # 13
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
23. "I'm 2 hours from a flight right now" In response to Reply # 17
Returning on Friday, if I get held up I get held up. I know that's not everyone's MO, but that's how I'm handling it. Protests are supposed to disrupt, otherwise the cause is ignored.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
37. "I understand that but some people needed to get home" In response to Reply # 23
Maybe they needed to get to work that night Maybe they needed to pick up their kids
If i needed to go somewhere, i wouldn't be mad at the protesters but i mighta hopped in an uber.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
41. "Yeah, my beef isn't with the people" In response to Reply # 37
You wanna get home or need to, then you get home It's uber (the company) capitalizing off this purposely, that's my beef. Independent drivers wanting to get out there? Cool. But if Uber the company was for the strike, they wouldv'e turned off surging to dis-incentivize the influx of cars.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
18. "Yup. But alas as you know that's their MO" In response to Reply # 15
MASSIVE overreach when it comes to any sort of protest and hopes that no one notices or explain it away as a public safety issue. And imho much of it is because of laziness...as opposed to making sure the protestors stay in line AND stay safe they would rather fuck with their freedom of speech to rush back home to their starter second families in the BX, lol.
Kinda nuts how they can arbitrarily shut down parts of the public transportation system just because they feel like it
>..PA on that bullshit. > >cuomo appears to be on the right side of history by re-opening >it, but i don't trust that fool either. > > >*skatin' the rings of saturn* > > >..and miles to go before i sleep...
8. "Uber says their drivers aren't employees" In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jan-30-17 10:50 AM by Cocobrotha2
I didn't expect them to do any kind boycott like the taxicab commission. That would be up to the individual drivers.
The concession on surge pricing is them, I believe, trying to avoid some of the PR nightmares they've had before based on surge pricing. They seem pretty hardcore about sticking to their economic principles but they've learned surge pricing during "crises" is hugely unpopular.
The way they deliberately ignore regulations when they move into different markets across the world suggests the owners are on the more conservative/libertarian spectrum of political beliefs.... they're business edge depends on breaking the rules and hoping that public pressure from satisfied customers will allow them to continue doing business.
I dunno if the owners are individually Trump supporters or if they even care about the Muslim ban but I'd bet they're more alike than different when it comes to how much power they think government should have over business (in particular, their business) .
14. "#deleteuber a result of taxi union leader who was pissed..." In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jan-30-17 11:18 AM by Creole
That's it! That's all!
And now everybody is up in arms thinking/believing Uber supports the ban. I've seen nothing supporting that assertion at all. I believe they've taken a stance against the order. Here is an article on their stance...
36. "They have a better shot to help him alter his gameplan than we do..." In response to Reply # 25
And working with someone is not necessarily enabling them.
I get everyone's pisstivity. I just don't get us losing our shit and not thinking critically through all of this. Gonna be a long four years if we're jumping out of windows every time this numb skull does or says anything.
40. "RE: They have a better shot to help him alter his gameplan than we do..." In response to Reply # 36
>And working with someone is not necessarily enabling them.
There is no altering him gameplan. He's doing everything he said he was going to do, and bypassing other branches of government to do so. Laws and governance be damned.
>I get everyone's pisstivity. I just don't get us losing our >shit and not thinking critically through all of this. Gonna be >a long four years if we're jumping out of windows every time >this numb skull does or says anything.
If you think this is only going to be four years then you don't get everyone's "pisstivity". This past week he filed for re-election, doing so before your first midterm is pretty abnormal, doing so within your first week is unheard of, as in never happened.
This makes non profits unable to campaign against him officially and allows me to take in money directly through him and PACS.
We don't have four years, we might not have four weeks to safe what we can. We're on day 9. If your urgency isn't there, fine, but you're doing yourself a disservice by proverbially treating your ebola systems like the common cold.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
43. "The Golden Child could come from within that rank of people (CEOs)..." In response to Reply # 40
Somebody has the knife. Just saying that we never know who can get close to him and get in his ear enough.
I'm watching dude like a hawk but I'm not hating his supporters and not deleting an Uber account because some entertainer posted some asinine comment with a hashtag involved.
I'm hopeful that in the next two we have enough people go out and make sure that Congress is more slanted away from him. And that Congress has folks who are not afraid to speak out against the cat and his minions who are out to rule the world on some Marvin The Martian type steez.
Would be nice if Trump repeatedly blew his own face off though.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 11:23 AM
26. "In this climate? Yup" In response to Reply # 22
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
Mofos gonna be in for a long four years if we keep up this US vs THEM mentality especially when his supporters are about to be shat upon like e'rybody else.
You quitting your job if you know your manager supports trump? Fuck and no! You going to lunch and eat them tacos like e'rybody else on Taco Tuesdays.
42. "Correct. This is the same reason Im not deleting Uber" In response to Reply # 38
>You quitting your job if you know your manager supports trump? >Fuck and no! You going to lunch and eat them tacos like >e'rybody else on Taco Tuesdays.
I support something Trump related without even trying to. The Girl Scouts supported marching at his parade, am I about to give up buying their cookies? nope
but the episode did end on a kumbayah note probably because Disney (and ABC by extension) is connected to him
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 11:55 AM
48. "It ended that way because it's an upbeat show" In response to Reply # 42
You think it was gonna end with a black fist, stay woke message?
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 11:46 AM
44. "Nah... but I see that episode really got under your skin" In response to Reply # 34
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
20. "people dont read. they saw it on the internet, so it must be true" In response to Reply # 14
this creates a climate of sheep being led by misinformation
the same thing just happened with Tina Campbell (Mary Mary) she wrote a letter that basically said "As a Christian I forgive Donald Trump for the things I dont like and I hope God works through him to do what's right for the country" and that was spun into her supporting Trump
27. "When I jumped on IG yesterday and saw that Taraji had a post about it, " In response to Reply # 20 Mon Jan-30-17 11:37 AM by Creole
And BallerAlert And TI And Nas And countless others...
I decided to go see what the fuss was about. In no place did I find that he supports Trump or that he has explicitly communicated support for the POTUS.
The sheeple began deleting their accounts without having read a damned thing of substance to support their action other than a tweet and or FB/IG post. Shit's ridiculous!
Sadly, this is the same way that Trump's followers, by and large, got their info and decided to support him.
Damned shame that, collectively, the adults in this country don't have the critical thinking skills or common sense that the good Lord gave a billy goat.
21. "Lyft CEO is donating money to the ACLU" In response to Reply # 0
while the Uber CEO is on a trump commission. It's not the biggest battle, but I plan to fight big and small battles during this administration. For me, that means giving my money to those who are acting in my interest.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 11:25 AM
29. "I wonder if Lyft started the #deleteuber" In response to Reply # 21
People out here angry and ready to turn on anything and anybody.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
32. "Nah, B! I saw that it was a union leader in NYC who did it cuz he..." In response to Reply # 29
was pissef that Uber drivers went out to get that bread while his taxi drivers couldn't. The claim is that Uber drivers supported Trump's ban by crossing picket lines.
I'm looking for the articles I found and read yesterday.
33. "Right! All this stuff is business to these cats..." In response to Reply # 31
>RE: Lyft CEO is donating money to the ACLU >if Lyft were the only show in town I doubt they would care, >they play second fiddle to Uber so this was a shrewd business >move no matter the nobility
Their concern for humanity ain't that damned great. It was an OPPORTUNITY!
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 12:20 PM
60. "Does it really send a message to Trump supporters?" In response to Reply # 54
or does it send a message to Uber while increasing Lyfts stock?
A week from now most people will be back on Uber.
I appreciate the energy but I think folk need to be careful. Every week or few days it's gonna be delete this, buy that, support this, boycott that, these apps are cool because they just tweeted support.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
64. "businesses care about making money" In response to Reply # 63
if being seen as being allied with trump hurts their bottom line, better believe they won't do so publicly. This is especially relevant because one of trumps tactics is going to be to get businesses friendly to him to publicize every job they create so he can slap a MAGA sticker on it.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 12:32 PM
66. "hmm... if Uber kept their surcharges" In response to Reply # 64
I could see the same reaction due to price gouging.
Ionno, I don't know about this one.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
74. "Uber is operating at a loss. Attempting the Amazon approach" In response to Reply # 64
Because their end goal isn't drivers, it's self driving and automation.
Which is against what's good for the environment, against accessibility for the poor/ elderly that can't do everything digitally, against public transportation which provides jobs for minority, against regulations and taxes which benefit the public infrastructure for people.
Uber may have a short term benefit. But it is still the enemy. And they're not just in the business of easy rides. They'll do whatever it takes to get "stuck" in bigger markets.
Similar to how the isps own the telecoms even though taxes paid for the building of that infrastructure.
------ “There is no fate that cannot be surmounted by scorn.” -Albert Camus
75. "Great perspective. Never thought of it this way. " In response to Reply # 74
>RE: Uber is operating at a loss. Attempting the Amazon approach >Because their end goal isn't drivers, it's self driving and >automation. > >Which is against what's good for the environment, against >accessibility for the poor/ elderly that can't do everything >digitally, against public transportation which provides jobs >for minority, against regulations and taxes which benefit the >public infrastructure for people. > >Uber may have a short term benefit. But it is still the enemy. >And they're not just in the business of easy rides. They'll do >whatever it takes to get "stuck" in bigger markets. > >Similar to how the isps own the telecoms even though taxes >paid for the building of that infrastructure.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
45. "RE: OKP rebels? Did you delete your let Uber app yet? " In response to Reply # 0 Mon Jan-30-17 11:48 AM by double 0
I have been iffy on Uber for a while... I used it cuz.. well convenience...
I deleted the App (not account yet) because I thought Travis' statement was toothless. Uber is actively trying to eliminate its drivers by investing heavily in self driving cars because those silly human things that sit behind the wheel cost too much.
“Travis had an idea that he wanted to do self-driving,” says John Bares, who had run CMU’s National Robotics Engineering Center for 13 years before founding Carnegie Robotics, a Pittsburgh-based company that makes components for self-driving industrial robots used in mining, farming, and the military. .....The goal: to replace Uber’s more than 1 million human drivers with robot drivers—as quickly as possible."
While the idea of Uber was revolutionary (even though Lyft did it first) the idea that you can "work" 60 hours a week for the same company (not multiple companies) and have no benefits shouldnt be commended.
They are on Walmart status with me currently. I dont shop there because of their policies on unions and how they treat their employees and the communities they inhabit.
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50. "Over the summer while driving for Uber, I met a young lady here in B/mor..." In response to Reply # 45
>While the idea of Uber was revolutionary (even though Lyft did it first) the idea that you can "work" 60 hours a week for the same company (not multiple companies) and have no benefits shouldn't be commended.
who was about to move to the Bay Area because she'd accepted a nice gig with Uber. She asked me what my one complaint would be.
I told her that I had none. I then asked her what most drivers were saying. She said that they complained mostly about the hours they had to work to make a significant chunk of change. I told her that I didn't think of Uber in that way and that it was just a way to make extra coins.
According to her, it was never the intent for drivers to be out there 40 to 60 hours per week because it was meant to just help people make extra money. it was never intended to be a full-time gig for anyone. If I was on the road for more than 20 hours per week, it was because I wanted to hustle more dough instead of sitting in the house doing nothing. That was on me; not them.
58. "RE: Over the summer while driving for Uber, I met a young lady here in B..." In response to Reply # 50
Sure but when you boast as a "job creator":
"Uber CEO Travis Kalanick laid out an ambitious agenda for the following year. “In 2015 alone,” he wrote on the company’s blog, “Uber will generate over 1 million jobs in cities around the world.”
You have to provide some basic job benefits... if you are gonna claim job creation... thats all
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70. "Is it a job or not?" In response to Reply # 58
I do believe so which means they are accurate about creating jobs. The thing is... A contractor gets to set his/her own hours. That's the main benefit IMO. It was a job that afforded me the opportunity to make extra dough on my own time when I felt like it.
People know what they're signing up for before they do it. I figured the game out and started sitting at the airport to take advantage of folks needing rides that would generate a nice chunk of change for me. I had days where I made $150 in four hours just by targeting the airport.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 01:00 PM
69. "but commercials show people making $600 a week" In response to Reply # 50
I work a full time gig and it was just a few hours here and there and unless I got a good ride it wasn't possible to make a few coins.
if you could see the amount you would make when selecting a trip it would change the game.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
72. "Honestly, I toy with the thought of doing it now because I'm back in a....." In response to Reply # 69
full-time gig with benefits in my chosen field. Some days, i wanna go out there and hustle a couple of dollars. The desire to go home to my lady or do other things is more appealing after having dealt with the stress of a day in the office.
Nevertheless, being out there for yourself through Uber was never meant to be anyone's sole stream of revenue. if it is, one has to recognize that you've got things to handle on your own as an independent contractor. No different than being one in IT.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 12:00 PM
53. "I used to drive for Uber. I stopped " In response to Reply # 49
I used it once when we were stranded after my car stopped working.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 12:10 PM
57. "hippies don't create apps like Uber" In response to Reply # 55 Mon Jan-30-17 12:12 PM by legsdiamond
it's a great idea with a cool factor to it.
Get from A to B however you want. I got no problem with it.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 12:23 PM
62. "This isn't what I went to school for... " In response to Reply # 59
Anyone can drive, not everyone can design. I rather spend more time at home freelancing and grinding then driving white folk around.
Plus it takes too much time to make good money. its not consistent.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
i just remembered you pretty geeked about it in the beginning.
i like the idea of being able to make some quick extra cash here and there but the math ain't add up for me personally.
-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79918 posts
Mon Jan-30-17 02:05 PM
81. "It was great when my wife wasn't working" In response to Reply # 78
Some quick extra cash, do a few hours after work and have an extra $100 or $200 a week.
If I didn't have kids or quit my job I would definitely do it as a stop gap.
I value my time with my family more than a few coins.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
56. "Yup. I also laugh at the 'backlash' now the shoes on the other foot" In response to Reply # 52
showing it was never about morals but fear of the others.
Trump supporters mollywopping on women peacefully protesting all last year like, 'THEY WERE INSTIGATORS, THEY SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE'. Suddenly a nazi gets a two piece during the protests and they are like, *cry*, 'that was unfair, what about free speech'
61. "What about all the OTHERS who voted for him?" In response to Reply # 52
>RE: yep...call me obtuse, naive, dumb but i for one am LOVING the >fuck Trump as a staff, label, and as a motherfucking crew > >fuck him, everything he stands for and ALL the crackers that >voted for his ass > >fuck they feelings...fuck they fears...fuck them > >fuck any and everybody on that 'give him a chance' bullshit > >his voters are racist and not affected by 95% of the bs they >voted for as usual....fuck all of em... > >can't wait till they show up at they door
Just tell me what you think of the others that went in that booth and pulled that lever or pushed that button to elect this dude.
For the most part, I'm with you on all of this. I don't care to read their comments nor learn of their frustrations with the BS that's coming their way now.
Engaging with a voter or two of his in a conversation is not something I'm above if they wanna really talk. Otherwise, I'm not for the fuck shit.
71. "i don't view them as OTHERS in the least bit " In response to Reply # 61 Mon Jan-30-17 01:31 PM by ambient1
if we are speaking on (non white women) minorities then there isn't any helping them...they were and will be lost and on some other shit
for white folks who want to ride the 'I'm not racist' train can accelerate that somebidge to hyperspeed and slam directly into the wall he wants to build....they beefing with anything and anyone liberal (code for Other than they lilly yt asses) anyways so ain't no bridging that gap
My boss voted for Trump. His FATHER and uncle left Nazi Germany on a Kindertransport as little boys. His grandparents were killed in the Holocaust. My boss's wife was born in Australia, but her parents -- his IN-LAWS -- were born & raised in IRAN and are now here, on green cards until very very recently.
I can't believe he would do such a thing. He says it's because Trump would be better for the economy and he says WAIT AND SEE DON'T JUDGE TOO QUICKLY.
My job is unraveling and I'll be unemployed in a few weeks and you know what? I'M GLAD because I have zero respect left for this guy with whom I've worked for 10 years.
~ ~ ~ All meetings end in separation All acquisition ends in dispersion All life ends in death - The Buddha
79. "no and not planning on it" In response to Reply # 0
i actually kinda think it's silly...or at the very least extremely kneejerk
I'd literally have to delete all my apps, throw my phone in a landfill, and live in the woods off posion ivy and honeysuckle in order to protest all the big biz that are in the same room as Trumps and nem
Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble
82. "Don't just delete it.....delete your account" In response to Reply # 0
The NYC taxi drivers had an hourlong work stoppage in honor of the protests....Uber immediately seized on that as an opportunity to make money. They undermined the protests by doing that....the founder of Uber is sitting on one of Trump's boards.....at the exact same time, Lyft announced that they were donating 1 million dollars to the ACLU over the next 4 years.
deleting the Uber app doesn't do much except not be on your phone....Uber still has you as a registered user....so delete your account and then you can write them why you are doing so.
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